COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
velocityjohnno wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5atlyhjxM
Case in WA. Wondering how 25yo French backpacker gets in yet we can't go see our fam? I think pub/club in Northbridge exposure site? Early news, might be wrong on that
Family member works with a casual contact we all had dinner the other night, mate with autoimmune problem was there as well, guess we will find out how contagious it is.
shoredump wrote:Beat me to it Burleigh.
Roadkill my friend, no I don’t get why you want to shut down fire stations for 7 days just because the crew came into contact with someone yet didn’t fall ill.
It’s a stupid way to handle an emergency. This is all industries we are talking about. How about your local power station, are you good with that shutting down as well?
Comprehension, obviously not one of your skills, shoredump.
blindboy wrote:burleigh offers health advice......take it at your own risk! He knows sfa.
Coming from the bloke that just posted a link saying that exercise is bad for you?
Everything I’ve posted is common sense.
You are an ignorant fool.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095254618301005
blindboy wrote:You are an ignorant fool.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095254618301005
Never in my life have someone tried to defend their position that exercising is unhealthy.
You are a FOOL mate, end of discussion. Everything else you type is completely irrelevant after this.
Hahahahahaha
So generations of sport scientists and coaches are wrong....because you say so?
Fuck me some morons are beyond hope, at least Blowie is smart enough not to believe his own bullshit.
So generations of sport scientists and coaches are wrong....because you say so?
Fuck me some morons are beyond hope, at least Blowie is smart enough not to believe his own bullshit.
blindboy wrote:So generations of sport scientists and coaches are wrong....because you say so?
Fuck me some morons are beyond hope, at least Blowie is smart enough not to believe his own bullshit.
Ok mate, yes exercise is bad for you, eating healthy is bad for you.
Let’s all sit on the couch, get fat and take our boosters like good little boys and girls.
Santa is real, So is the Easter bunny. Oh and god
Good luck for yourself and your crew IFocus, you guys should be OK. Take care.
No mate read the post. Hard training lowers resistance to respiratory illness. If you can only interpret that as "exercise is bad for you" then you are a fucking illiterate simpleton.
Blowin wrote:VIC local rubbing his hands together knowing the free taxpayer handouts are coming his way.
This is how you make the conscious decision to run an economy into the ground. Pump more free cash, debase the currency and watch the inflation rate eat away the accumulated debt so that it can be replaced with …..MOAR debt.
Seriously blowin, go fuck yourself. You know there's no support for businesses anymore, but you keep lying. Always lying.
You know what is running the economy into the ground. Unvaxxed cunts and fuckwits like you that keep encouraging people to spread the virus.
This latest outbreak is brutal for the tourism, hospitality, and events industries and it was so unnecessary. Restaurant bookings, events and holidays are being cancelled en-mass because Perrottet has let the virus rip. He's a fucking flog who's just destroyed the economy and created a health crisis to boot.
Scumo is just as bad. My industry has just been smashed again by the "let it rip" mob and there's no federal govt support for the fucked up situation they created. Just scumo lecturing us about personal responsibility because the dog can't do his fucking job.
so blowin, you'll have to accept my apology for me calling you a complete and utter lying cunt.
blindboy wrote:You are an ignorant fool.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095254618301005
Not going to read the whole article, but after a 30 sec skim it seems to be saying:
a/ Regular exercise is good for the immune system.
b/ Prolonged intensive exercise (heavy exertion) causes immune system dysfunction for from several hours up to several days during recovery.
blindboy wrote:No mate read the post. Hard training lowers resistance to respiratory illness. If you can only interpret that as "exercise is bad for you" then you are a fucking illiterate simpleton.
Define “hard training” and at what stage does your “hard training” lower resistance to illness. And what is your lower resistance?
You’re a tool mate, you proved that with this ludicrous posts.
You stay on the couch fatty, and I’ll keep doing what I’m doing.
gragagan wrote:blindboy wrote:You are an ignorant fool.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095254618301005Not going to read the whole article, but after a 30 sec skim it seems to be saying:
a/ Regular exercise is good for the immune system.
b/ Prolonged intensive exercise (heavy exertion) causes immune system dysfunction for from several hours up to several days during recovery.
Yep, if you’re running a marathon. Not 30 - 45 minutes of weights and cardio everyday to stay in shape
Keep training hard burlesque you might get a gig with your local M.C
So your take on "train my ass off", (your words), is a light work out? Sorry mate just a semantic difference as to what the relevant terms mean.
velocityjohnno wrote:Good luck for yourself and your crew IFocus, you guys should be OK. Take care.
Cheers VJ Merry Xmas to you and family all the best for 2022.
My comprehension is great thanks Roadkill. Good enough to see you don’t ever actually contribute anything on here other than potshots at other posters, the Chinese, vegans and Jews. It’s not hard to see. I’m guessing Roadkill symbolises a dead kangaroo too doesnt it sport. Yet to see one intelligent post from you mate. Vic and BB I can respect because they have insight. You’re just a pretender
These threads have become sewers unfortunately and it’s very much thanks to guys like you who refuse to say anything new and just use this place to spice up their dull lives arguing on the Internet. Not for me sorry pal but have fun with that
Hey folks. Been staying off this thread. It's quite confronting reading. Not for the facts on each side of the fence, but the mentality of posters...on each side of the fence.
It's almost Christmas. No matter what your position is on Covid and vaccines, (and we all have one) there are literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who are having the worst Christmas of their lives at the moment, as they, or their families deal with the dreaded health effects coming out of it.
Maybe just for a day, it would be nice to stop the bitching and squabbling and acknowledge the people whose lives will never be the same again and who are currently living through hell due to catching Covid or to being rolled by the vaccine. There's no winners in either of these scenarios and while the debates are necessary, the personal hatred and vile is so uncalled for and seems contemptuous to those that are living the real nightmare.
Also, I wonder what it would be like for a surfer who stumbles across this website (although hardly stumbling since it's one of Australia biggest) and the kind of feeling it would give them, and how the hatred and vile they read from other surfers would filter through them and have a ripple effect on their own friends and family.
Be kind to each other, we're all brothers and sisters on the same rock. None of us like what's going on. Keep your eye on the ball legends.
Merry Christmas all and remember what really matters.
Nice one BD, merry Christmas and hope you get a few
X2 for BD's nice post. Does my head in a bit too reading the bile spewed forth in this thread from both sides of the debate (if you could call it that).
Take a breather guys, go get some waves, it'll be good for you.
All the very best to everyone for 2022, hope we can put all this madness behind us.
Totally agree! I’m done here in this thread. Waves coming next week (hopefully)
Merry Christmas to all.
Bad news on the booster front.
Worse news for females.
https://www.rt.com/news/544249-britain-boosters-omicron-nhs/?utm_source=...
https://www.rt.com/news/544172-menstrual-changes-covid-vaccination/
is this some sort of joke or do you seriously pay attention to this garbage
A quote from one of the Roman stoics Marcus Aurelius:
"Your mind will take the shape of what you frequently hold in thought, for the human spirit is coloured by such impressions"
Strive daily to win the great covid SN debate or maybe you think you have.... but what shapes are you forming?
Blowin gets spat out of his third barrel, this time switch foot and the sun hasn’t even broken the horizon yet.
Crew on the rocks are dumbfounded scratching their heads and heard mumbling things like “it’s not normally good on this tide” and “have swellnet told us what model board to ride today yet”
Yep, glad to see this given a rest. Merry Christmas everyone.
Agree on the how tiring and pointless this back and forth aggressive name calling stuff is in this thread..
Personally I'm super positive about Covid at the moment, some people will say the verdict is not out yet, but everything is pointing to Omicron being so much milder than Delta and a turning point in this pandemic and it also feels like Australia politically and media wise are having a change of attitude, and acceptance of living with Covid and lot of "Pandemic to epidemic" stuff being thrown around, i even just saw on TV some expert saying "not only is the spread of the virus inevitable but also necessary"
Next few weeks are really going to be super interesting, after Christmas infection rates of Omicron are going to be sky high and we will know for certain if hospitals will see real increases and cope, its summer though so now is the best time for it all
Anyway my fav YouTube Doctor did a Video on Australia he is pro vax, but he also stresses the importance of natural immunity, vitamin D & Zinc, interesting to see his take on Australia at the moment, aligns a lot with my views.
&t=408s Great post bd and I agree with your sentiment. Anger fuelling anger.
Life is happening out there in the real world, let’s all go and find it.
That's a great vid Indo. I'm also very positive looking at the Omicron data.
Garbage?
Seem like decent sources to me.
"While Covid-19 booster shots provide more protection against severe disease from the new Omicron variant, even this starts to wane after 10 weeks, the UK Health Security Agency has announced amid talk of post-Christmas lockdowns".
"Young women are experiencing changes in their periods, including heavier bleeding, after receiving both first and second anti-coronavirus shots, a study by the Norwegian Institute of Public Health (NIPH) suggests".
https://m.
Came across this video, few interesting points, few days old .. Steve Martin's brother??
Hoping Omicron less dangerous, but will be ripples of effects for a few years yet .
Hopefully the division this virus has caused both socially and politically will start to dissolve.
Over it.
Merry Christmas all.....
This is a little odd.. an interview with Trump, where he manages to stay on-message despite the interviewer's attempts to push him sideways. Nothing odd about that, except the message is pro-Vaccine!
https://m.
The bloke who oversaw the most inept pandemic management anywhere in the world tries to put it all behind him.
"Feb. 10, 2020
“I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine.”
Feb. 10, 2020
“Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”
Feb. 24, 2020
“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… the Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb. 25, 2020
“CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb. 25, 2020
“I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb. 26, 2020
“The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb. 26, 2020
“We're going very substantially down, not up.”
Feb. 26, 2020
“Well, we're testing everybody that we need to test. And we're finding very little problem. Very little problem.”
Feb. 26, 2020
"This is a flu. This is like a flu."
https://doggett.house.gov/media-center/blog-posts/timeline-trumps-corona...
thermalben wrote:This is a little odd.. an interview with Trump, where he manages to stay on-message despite the interviewer's attempts to push him sideways. Nothing odd about that, except the message is pro-Vaccine!
It's not strange Trump was super Pro Vax from day one of Covid, he was pushing hard for Covid vaccine development, he is *in part the reason why we got vaccines so fast, thats what i find so weird about the political divide in USA over vaccines.
On a recent Joe rogan podcast they where they even suggesting if Trump had been re-elected the tables would be turned and Conservatives would be pushing vaccines and so called progressives would be against.
I cant agree with that, i think thats not realistic, but i do think if Trump was still in power views would be different as Trump would have still been pushing Covid vaccines (but he would also be against lockdowns etc) and he is obviously more open to things like treatment.
I love Candace she is smart and a complete babe and i particularly like her views on race related issues etc, but I totally disagree with her on this issue (and guns), thats the only thing i hate about Conservatives at times, its like they have to have an opposing view to so called progressives, being anti renewables is another one, its just plain dumb both the left and right do it, thinking they have to support a view point just because its popular with either a left or right view.
* notice the word "in part", not the whole reason VL or BB
"That's a great vid Indo." Fact check. Nah, just the usual nonsense.
First error: He states explicitly that vaccines do not produce IgAs. They do.
“ In summary, longitudinal serology of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine recipients highlights important issues related to immunity and monitoring of vaccine responses. The persistence of spike antigen-specific serum IgG following vaccination is hopefully a positive indicator of effective long-lived immunity, and clinical indicator of vaccine responsiveness [27]. In addition to IgG…….
……the data demonstrate COVID-19 mRNA vaccines also elicit antigen-specific IgA, which may be important in preventing transmission as well as infection [28,29].
Spike-specific serum IgA levels decay significantly (p < 0.002) faster than spike-specific IgG, however, the “recall” response for both IgG and IgA (time to peak serum levels following the 2nd / booster dose) is significantly (p < 0.03) shorter than the primary response.”
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0249499
Do I really need to fact check the rest......or maybe you could all just stay off you tube....well for the holiday season at least.
Covid alert for WA, masks for Perth and Peel region.
If there was ever a script for WA to get an outbreak it was always going to be an unvaccinated French backpacker ...
He arrived just hours prior to QLD border being closed , tons of exposure sites including Australia,s longest running gaybar " Connections" over the last week +.
It is understood it is the Delta strain so lets keep the "virus is fuckall" comments to a minimum for now.
Craig wrote:That's a great vid Indo. I'm also very positive looking at the Omicron data.
I'm with you Craig.
Could be just the thing we want. Is this the strain that could burn covid out.
So a retired doctor with vague memories of his immunology lectures 50 years ago, gets the only actual medical evidence so far, (I try to limit my exposure to bullshit) completely wrong, then confidently quotes the PM that hospitals are doing “extremely well”. I mean we know Morrison would struggle to tell the truth even if his life depended on it, so how does the usual bullshit become true when it’s filtered through a YouTube eggspurt? Guess what? It doesn’t.
“As a retired registered nurse, I have friends and family working in the NSW public health system. Unless privy to inside information, most people are unaware of the dire situation in which hospitals find themselves this week: desperate (“QR codes return but mask rules resisted”, December 23). Disaster management plans are being implemented, staff are having leave cancelled and those on leave are being recalled. Others are isolating because of having come into contact with COVID-19 positive patients and visitors, unwittingly and despite their efforts to maintain best practice.
So if you think that masks don’t matter, social distancing is a nonsense and QR codes are a relic of the past, think again. Living with the Omicron virus is another of the PM’s marketing slogans that provides no protection against catching or spreading COVID-19. We are all at risk and it is everyone’s responsibility to ensure that this risk is mitigated by continuing the safe practices we began earlier in the year. Otherwise, there might not be enough staff to look after us and our families if we need them. And that is looking more and more likely. Patricia Farrar, Concord”
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/in-the-absence-of-leadership-safety-...
how the hell does an unvaccinated french backpacker take corona on a holiday to perth with him when some people have been waiting 24 months to see family within their own country?
fortress bizarro
Thats what I wondered too.
it's like they wanted it to happen...
apparently it was a loophole in the restrictions management, before queensland was elevated to 'low risk', there is no checking for passengers being vaccinated...
that's some pretty lame-o fortress WA you're running there mr mcgowan...
sypkan wrote:it's like they wanted it to happen...
apparently it was a loophole in the restrictions management, before queensland was elevated to 'low risk', there is no checking for passengers being vaccinated...
that's some pretty lame-o fortress WA you're running there mr mcgowan...
yeah..that conspiracy line.
"It's like they wanted it to happen"
Who is they spykan? Was Frenchie paid by some mysterious person/persons/govt dept?
Oz Booster Countdown 12 > 6 > 5 >4 > 3 months by Jan 31 (Vax is still 25% good, best hurry!)
Qld is closing down all Vax Hubs to fuel the Mass Peak Xmas Booster Covid Crisis...as you'd expect!
https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-statement-on-the-omicron-variant-an...
sigh...
back to that shit again roadkill...
again...
you are such a fucking moron roadkill, possibly bigger and better than the vicmoron... which is some serious moron...
you really are showing your lack of ability to think broadly, ...think at all actually... so much preconceived and judgmental thought, it's hard to believe you can function in your business... a business in health I believe... massaging other MAMLs or something? ... i guess that really doesn't take much brains or analysis... hurt here, push there.... glorified monkey work, about to be replaced by robots...
anyway 'they' refers to mark mcgowan and his merry bunch of gatekeepers, who've probably had enough of the intensity of their hypervigilance...
and already well know omni-con doesn't warrant such energies and just don't know how to go about breaking it to the public...
seriously, the paranoid delusional mind of the 'everyone is a conspiracy theorist' bridgade is more paranoid, delusional, and void of reality than the conspiracy theorist bridgade...
the world is officially fucked
omni-con may prove to be no worse than a common cold... but the division, mistrust and general lack of respect left behind by corona means the world is officially fucked for decades to come
fucken grow up you moron!
or grow a brain and back of on the narrow minded 'i cannot form an argument' beyond slinging shit mentality
seriously damaged goods
and fwiw... there was a pretty key 'like' in there
truebluebasher wrote:Oz Booster Countdown 12 > 6 > 5 >4 > 3 months by Jan 31 (Vax is still 25% good, best hurry!)
Qld is closing down all Vax Hubs to fuel the Mass Peak Xmas Booster Covid Crisis...as you'd expect!
https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-statement-on-the-omicron-variant-an...
"developed nations cannot boost themselves out of this pandemic" - the WHO
seems 'the authorities' are pretty selective about listening to 'the authorities'...
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia