Interesting stuff
And now today the Ambassador from the Chinese Embassy announcing not so veiled threats of China pulling out of beef and wine imports from Australia if we dont stop pushing for an investigation into how this whole virus got so out of hand.
Just wait till they decide they need to "protect"their interests and assets in this country that they have bought for a song over the last decade or so.
No amounts of " I told you so" will matter then.
Google is your friend, blow in. Also your enemy.
Check this (no cut n pasting necessary. Your source, BTW?):
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_imperialism.htm
Hey, it's not my fault you're a bigot. Pre-COVID-19 China, "fucking vibrant scum", multicultural types, Indian grandmothers, Muslims, foreigners with their engrained anti-everything-Aussie cultures, the pesky crew whinging about their collective lot in the country they were around in waaaaaaaay before the first immigrants came and tried to erase them.
Yeah, nothing to see there ever, blow in.
Though we can go there if you like.
AGAIN.
History isn't your strong point, me ol' China. Here and in the real world.
Then again...what is? East coast fishing adventures? The redundancy of a MacroBUSINESS subscription? White fragility writ large? The worst of Facebook* style narcissism?
Keep on scurrying! When the lights flick on, back under the fridge you go!
*without family and friends on here (kinda the point of social media, I would've thought)
Blowin, aren't 7s boards made in China?
Hahahaha.
Really?
Don't see much of 'em round these parts.
Aaah, cancel that inquiry, just googled it, Thailand.
Cannot deny that Opium Wars stuff Pupkin. The Chinese also had the largest shipping/naval fleet in the world in the 1400s[?]. The then authorities sank that fleet in fear of the Chinese people becoming corrupted by foreigners.
Cannot trust the CCP. They drove tanks over their own people.
I hate those chinese lollies.
Yes, our historical overlords really 'helped' the Chinese out over the years.
God save our Queen.
"Australia and America are cousins..."
Yeehaw!
When's the next foreign hootenanny?
"I still am a virulant anti- communist.It's a bad system ,an immoral system and one that takes away the rights of people and the rights of individuals.And everywhere it's gone ,it's failed".
- Joe Lhota
Agree 100% Joe 100 perrr cent.That there are people in Australia that still support this evil,evil ideology,that is responsible for the imprisonment and deaths of millions and millions of people is staggering.Top shelf ,A-grade,gold plated morons the lot of them.And yet none of them ,not one of them will walk the walk and go and live in the "utopias " that they spruik.Hypocrites and cowards all.
“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” - Joe Rogan
good times indeed!
and about bloody time!!
an appropriate and telling comment from the wongster...
"...Critically, the opposition foreign affairs spokesperson, Labor's Penny Wong, stood firm with the government. "I'd make the point that the Chinese ambassador spoke about not wanting to resort to recrimination, division and suspicion and what I'd say is that's precisely why we are supporting a call for an independent inquiry into the origin of the virus," she said. "We have to press what is right, what we believe is right, for us and for the international community, and making sure that humanity understands how this virus started is the right thing to do.""
clever comment
its pretty basic science to know the source to find the cure. its just plain disgusting that china has deflected this point for so long
"...Even Australia's business leaders, consistent Beijing boosters, can not possibly support China on this."
well thank fuck for that! ....sorry twigster..
...and certain uni professors.... bahahahaha
". But Cheng's foolishness is Australia's fortune. It is now plain for all to see that the CCP is waging political war on Australia, using trade as a weapon..."
totally understated for far too long, blind feddy and all that.. the facade had just become embarrassing for all involved
and the media's role?
...well...
"...This is Australia's moment of clarity. Australia has allowed itself to become more dependent on Chinese trade today than it has on any single nation since Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.
That ended in profound shock when Britain cut its trade preferences with Australia to join the European Common Market in 1973. We failed to remember our history and we have repeated our error."
...and britain coming out of that union offers oz many unique opportunities, a perfect (positive) storm you might say... almost...
oh the irony ...again...
a return to the angslophere? ....oh well, ...ya gotta grab your opportunities and all that...
the ip fawners are getting riled, but it doesn't seem all bad so far...
just the war problem
china's looking pretty lonely
their ruse is up
"a return to the angslophere? ....oh well, ...ya gotta grab your opportunities and all that.."
Oh please. The anglosphere has never been so weak and divided, and there's no turnaround due to Covid 19. In fact, the opposite is true.
The UK and USA have retreated into their own borders. Australia is seen as a pathetic US sycophant that no longer punches above it's weight. NZ and Canada were always middle powers that rely on coalitions to have any influence.
Guess who has filled the geo-political void. It's Chi-na. There's only one main player in international development and it's not the USA. And you blokes are still wonder why China is becoming a super-power. Have a read of this article from the Irish Times to see what state the Anglosphere's big cheese is in. Spoiler alert. It's a shit show.
THE WORLD HAS LOVED, HATED AND ENVIED THE U.S. NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE PITY IT
Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.
However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignant narcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.
Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s best concentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre of the pandemic.
As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”
It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governments to fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.
The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political death wish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses that haunt the American subconscious dance naked on live TV.
If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an idea that has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated.
Other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, who is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishing they lived in Detroit or Dallas?
It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions would prevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.
Abject surrender
What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility, care and even safety.
Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rd that governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.
In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling from all over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.
Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”
This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.
It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infused in the mindset of the American right.
Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heart of US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.
The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caught between authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.
Fertile ground
But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.
There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with the belief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps your need to avoid infection.
Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a large part of the US has hit the bottle even harder.
And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance on the US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.
That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised. When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.
And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But now that the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.
As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater. If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have to clean up the toxic dump he leaves behind. If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.
Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again.
An article Sam Clench would be jizzing over Vic. You can almost see the author wiping the foam off the screen.
Meanwhile...
https://www.realestate.com.au/news/mawallok-estate-chinese-business-tyco...
I was half joking, but it is happening, whether you like it or not...
I didn't say it'd be successsful
actually, it seems much of europe is in, so it's much more than an anglosphere. asia seems pretty grumpy too, it's a common enemy
I reckon it'll be a new globalisation mongrel that will develop, with india 'lifting millions out of poverty' as the india peasant factory model replaces the chinese peasant factory model, more manufacturing at home, and high end still in japan korea etc
India, or maybe indonesia, vietnam...
very colonialist...
but big change is afoot, that's for sure
I agree with pretty much all of your article, aside ftom being totally biased, it raises some good points, however
america is what it is...
republicans are what they are...
and the left of politics and their media are just as culpable for the toxic nature of current politics
biden our saviour? bahahahaha
biden is complicit, corrupted, connected to the problem, and totally not operating anywhere near full capacity ...just like his party...
It's happening here Syp, Abe has just committed $2 billion to bring business 'back home'.
Meanwhile China on the quiet in recent days have been harassing vessels and ducking in and out of Japanese waters (Senkaku) in their research vessels that just happen to be heavily armed, thinly disguised warships.
China's interest in the South Pacific is an interesting one. I'd put my money on it being related to the fish stocks more than military muscle. Fishing grounds in corruptable West & East African countries have now been obliterated and I reckon they are now searching for new fishing grounds to feed that protein hungry population.
This kind of industry should be of concern to most local fishermen.
That Gary and a coupla trillion cubic feet of natural gas.
“I support a fella harmlessly cracking a whip in legitimate protest at a Chinese consul and he says that my very acceptance of the fella’s action is encouraging racial violence”
Blowin 27 April 7.15 pm.
The suggestion that that threats and intimidation are harmless is a lie. The medical literature demonstrates that such behaviour impacts the mental health and the physical health of victims even to the level of precipitating heart attacks. The suggestion that it was a legitimate protest is a lie. It was an assault perpetrated by a single offender. The suggestion that the whip cracking was aimed at the Chinese Consul is a lie. The Consul was inside the building. The assault was against people queuing to enter the building. The seriousness of the offence is demonstrated by the fact that the offender was arrested and charged. This was clearly an incident of a completely unjustified assault based on the race of the victims. To publicly express support and approval for such an act inherently encourages similar acts.
......and the lies keep coming
https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20070920/stress-breaks-hearts
Every day I drive down 200metres of driveway, that shares a fence with my neighbour
My dog and his dog eye each other for a few seconds...then its on. They bark and start chasing each other up and down the entire length of the fence...barking, snapping, over and over again. Every fucking day the same thing
I always just look at her bewildered...you're better than this!
Blowfly. What an annoying pest
Actually Blowin, it's the Corona virus, not the china virus. No worries cobba, honest mistake I'm sure.
Oh look another lie!
“The Chinese aren’t fucking around....they sent warships uninvited and unannounced into Sydney harbour last year. “
Blowin 27 April 6.40
“Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the arrival of the warships in Sydney had been planned for some time. He said it was a "reciprocal visit" as Australian naval vessels had visited China.”
I apologise if this provokes another series of rants but some lies need to be called out as they are deliberate attempts to incite fear and hatred.
And there’s a return by Blowin, not a great deal of finesse but with some power behind it. Cromwell’s been playing with plenty of passion and despite occasionally letting his emotions get the better of his technique, it’ll be interesting to see what he does with this.
"a single brave Aussie cracking a whip in protest at the Chinese consulate"
Hey Blowin, I think you spelt "dumbass aggressive redneck" wrong.
Well yes the visit was unexpected in the sense that it was not publicly announced so if you had been on the Manly ferry you might have been moved to exclaim " I didn't expect that!". But what you said was "....they sent warships uninvited....", which is very different, inflammatory .....and a big smelly lie! They were invited as part of a reciprocal arrangement under which HAMAS Melbourne had already visited a Chinese post.
"Actually Blowin, it's the Corona virus, not the china virus. No worries cobba, honest mistake I'm sure."
To be fair while not official names like COVID-19 "China virus" Wuhan virus" are acceptable common name terms as that is clearly where the virus started.
It's not racist to call it those things, it's not about the race but about the country of origin.
It's no different to "Spanish flue" or "German measles" or even "Ross river fever" im sure they all have proper scientific names. (latin names?)
I spose it depends on what your goals are doesn't it Indo. If you want to have a constructive conversation about the issues at hand, the most accurate way to describe it is 'Corona virus' as it's a member of the corona virus family.
If you just want to whip up a bit of xenophobia, or deflect from your own failings - china virus it is.
"It’s been said by knowledgeable sources" have you been on facebook again?
"knowledgeable sources that the federal government didn’t know about the Chinese warships in Sydney Harbor until they docked"
"The Australian Defence Force (ADF) said China had asked for the visit in April, and that the government was committed to fostering a “long-term constructive relationship with China”.
“Australia regularly hosts foreign navy vessels in its ports,” said an ADF spokesperson. “Notification to the public is not standard practice and is usually considered on a case-by-case basis.” "
"Knowlegeable sources" as here, usually equates to bullshit merchants selling the implausible to the uninformed. A Chinese fleet sails undetected along the east coast and arrives without invitation or detection in Sydney Harbour? Gullible doesn't even begin to describe it. Still it has some value as a lesson in just how much confirmation bias can dull the wits.
Have it cunts