Interesting stuff

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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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Cromwell Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 8:12pm
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mikehunt207 Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 8:22pm

And now today the Ambassador from the Chinese Embassy announcing not so veiled threats of China pulling out of beef and wine imports from Australia if we dont stop pushing for an investigation into how this whole virus got so out of hand.
Just wait till they decide they need to "protect"their interests and assets in this country that they have bought for a song over the last decade or so.
No amounts of " I told you so" will matter then.

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Blowin Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 8:44pm

Also China threatens to halt tourists , students and other visitors from a China.

They’ll issue a government edict stating that no Chinese can visit Australia with the intent to impoverish Australia and ruin families because Australia believes that the virus which has ruined the world deserves to be investigated properly.

But some deluded fucks say that it’s all good and that we should expect nothing less from China and that’s how superpowers treat Australia.....whilst somehow ignoring that the US has kept Australia safe for the past 80 years at great expense of US lives and treasure. In fact the only reason that a China hasn’t invaded Australia already is because of our alliance with America.

This is why the Pro China sympathisers attack the US whenever China starts being questioned.....they want people to lose faith in the US / Australia alliance so that China appears like a plausible option......fuck that.

Australia and America are cousins and allies . China is not even our friend. Don’t forget that this is after they infected the world with the China virus.

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Pupkin Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 9:05pm

Google is your friend, blow in. Also your enemy.

Check this (no cut n pasting necessary. Your source, BTW?):

http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_imperialism.htm

Hey, it's not my fault you're a bigot. Pre-COVID-19 China, "fucking vibrant scum", multicultural types, Indian grandmothers, Muslims, foreigners with their engrained anti-everything-Aussie cultures, the pesky crew whinging about their collective lot in the country they were around in waaaaaaaay before the first immigrants came and tried to erase them.

Yeah, nothing to see there ever, blow in.

Though we can go there if you like.

AGAIN.

History isn't your strong point, me ol' China. Here and in the real world.

Then again...what is? East coast fishing adventures? The redundancy of a MacroBUSINESS subscription? White fragility writ large? The worst of Facebook* style narcissism?

Keep on scurrying! When the lights flick on, back under the fridge you go!

*without family and friends on here (kinda the point of social media, I would've thought)

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Blowin Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 9:11pm

OK ....China wants economic boycotts.....time to start seriously deleting Chinese made items from your shopping list.

It’ll be hard , but every bit helps. If it is made in China put it back on the shelf and tell the shop owner what you’re doing.

Send the CCP back to the impoverished backwater they rose out of.

Without Western money they were - and are - nothing.

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adam12 Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 9:19pm

Blowin, aren't 7s boards made in China?

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Pupkin Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 10:18pm

Hahahaha.

Really?

Don't see much of 'em round these parts.

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adam12 Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 9:25pm

Aaah, cancel that inquiry, just googled it, Thailand.

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mattlock Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 10:07pm

Cannot deny that Opium Wars stuff Pupkin. The Chinese also had the largest shipping/naval fleet in the world in the 1400s[?]. The then authorities sank that fleet in fear of the Chinese people becoming corrupted by foreigners.

Cannot trust the CCP. They drove tanks over their own people.

I hate those chinese lollies.

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Pupkin Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 10:16pm

Yes, our historical overlords really 'helped' the Chinese out over the years.

God save our Queen.

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Pupkin Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 10:27pm

"Australia and America are cousins..."

Yeehaw!

When's the next foreign hootenanny?

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Horas Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 11:09pm

"I still am a virulant anti- communist.It's a bad system ,an immoral system and one that takes away the rights of people and the rights of individuals.And everywhere it's gone ,it's failed".
- Joe Lhota

Agree 100% Joe 100 perrr cent.That there are people in Australia that still support this evil,evil ideology,that is responsible for the imprisonment and deaths of millions and millions of people is staggering.Top shelf ,A-grade,gold plated morons the lot of them.And yet none of them ,not one of them will walk the walk and go and live in the "utopias " that they spruik.Hypocrites and cowards all.

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Pupkin Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 11:40pm

“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” - Joe Rogan

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 6:55am

Australia could lose billions of dollars every year under a Chinese boycott of universities, tourism and agriculture as tensions intensify between Beijing and Canberra over the handling of the coronavirus outbreak.

Foreign Minister Marise Payne on Monday slapped down China's unprecedented threat of economic retaliation for the Morrison government's push for a global review into the origin and handling of COVID-19, as national security experts warned Australia needed to reduce our economic reliance on our biggest export market.

In response to an explicit threat from Chinese ambassador Cheng Jingye that our pursuit of a global COVID-19 review could spark a Chinese consumer boycott of significant Australian services and products, Senator Payne rejected "any suggestion that economic coercion is an appropriate response to a call for such an assessment, when what is needed is global co-operation".

In an interview with The Australian Financial Review, Mr Cheng said Australia's diplomatic push would spark Chinese tourists to have "second thoughts" about coming to Australia, while parents of students would also think whether "this is the best place to send their kids here".

The man who is the official voice of China in Australia.....the man who threaten us with blackmail if we don’t bend to Chinese demands and not seek the origins of the China Virus

"Maybe the ordinary people will say 'Why should we drink Australian wine? Eat Australian beef?'," he said.

The world’s second largest economy accounts for a quarter of all Australian exports, worth $153 billion in 2018-19 after growing at 10 per cent a year for the past five years. Iron ore and coal account for more than 25 per cent of the total value.

Food exports including beef, seafood and dairy, worth more than $12 billion a year, are also financially exposed to a deteriorating relationship.

The ambassador's threats came on the same day a senior World Health Organisation official told the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that Australia's calls for an independent review had been welcomed on the global stage as it was a "great honest broker".

They also followed revelations a European Union report about Chinese and Russian disinformation on the coronavirus was watered down after pressure from Beijing, with references to China running a "global disinformation" campaign and Chinese criticism of France's reaction to the pandemic erased.

Senator Payne criticised China for linking an economic backlash to Australia's push for an inquiry.

'What is needed is global co-operation': Marise Payne slaps down Beijing's boycott threat

Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Senator Payne are using Australia's suppression of the virus to push for an independent review of the coronavirus pandemic amid escalating tensions between the United States and China over whether COVID-19 came out of a wildlife wet market and how Communist Party leadership responded in the early days of the pandemic.

Richard McGregor, a senior fellow in China studies at the Lowy Institute, said the Chinese ambassador's comments needed to be interpreted as a direct threat from the government: "When he talks about Chinese consumers, he really means the Chinese state. This would be a government-led boycott, not a consumer-led boycott."

Mr McGregor said Chinese embassies were issuing similar threats around the world in countries critical of their handling of COVID-19.

"It is par for the course for the Chinese to hold out threats of some kind of boycott or trade sanctions in political disputes," he said.

Rory Medcalf, the head of the National Security College at the Australian National University, said it was "disappointing and counterproductive" to threaten economic consequences "simply because we want to find out the origin of the global COVID-19 calamity".

Professor Medcalf said Australia would now likely build an economy "more resilient to foreign economic coercion, even if that involves short-term difficulty".

"A few years ago, many Australian politicians were spooked at the prospect of even the slightest hint of Chinese action against industries like tourism, education, wine and coal," Professor Medcalf said.

"But now, through its early suppression of truth rather than the pandemic, the Chinese Party-State has inadvertently inflicted more harm on many economies than its threats of coercion ever could."

A 2017 report by the ANU's National Security College found perceptions of Australia’s vulnerability to Chinese economic pressure were exaggerated, as the sectors that would have the biggest impact on Australia - notably through the iron ore trade - would also cripple Beijing.

In a submission to the federal government’s inquiry into diversifying Australia’s trade, the China Policy Centre, run by former Treasury officials Yun Jiang and Adam Ni, said the concerns around market dependency in Australia are mostly around what China buys, not what China supplies.

They said China is more likely to target businesses in industries such as resources or agriculture, rather than the higher education centre, because vice-chancellors and academics do not hold as much political power as farmers or CEOs and shareholders of mining companies.

ANU chancellor Julie Bishop, the former foreign minister, said it would be "regrettable" for the international education market to "come under further pressure in these challenging times".

Vicki Thomson, chief executive of the Group of Eight universities, said they were already facing "substantial and unanticipated challenges" across their operations.

"Our Chinese students have and are benefiting from a high quality education and research experience and we would certainly hope that China would not deny its young people this incredible opportunity," she said.
The risks to Australia’s trading relationship follows increasingly assertive diplomatic and military positioning by Beijing. In a new report released on Monday, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute said Beijing was pushing its interests beyond the South China Sea and was now targeting geo-political ambitions in Antarctica.

The report’s authors, Anthony Bergin and Tony Press, a former director of the Australian Antarctic Division, said rising political distrust between Australia and China was impacting Antarctic Treaty System negotiations and China was leveraging its financial weight to influence scientific research.

"Given the track record Beijing has in moving rapidly on a broad front, as it has done in the South China Sea, we need to be prepared to respond to a rapid increase in the speed and scale of China’s actions in Antarctica," they said.

"In some areas, diminishing funding for science has led to China investing in Antarctic research in Australian institutions. We are running the risk of being mendicants living on Chinese research funds."

Environment Minister Sussan Ley said the Morrison government had made unprecedented levels of investment in Australia’s Antarctic programs after announcing a $106 million boost on Monday.

"The plan underlines Australia’s capacity to undertake science independently as well as with other nations and it highlights the global importance of the region and Australia’s leadership," she said.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 6:49am

China building military bases on Australian territory in Antarctica. China buying corrupt politicians in Vanuatu and Solomons in order to build military bases and surround Australia.

China’s ambassador to Australia standing on Australian soil and threatening blackmail over Australia if we try to find the source of the Chinese virus which has buckled the planet.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 7:04am

Government bail out for property developers....you can’t make this shit up.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw-government-may-buy-up-spare-hous...

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sypkan Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 10:17am

good times indeed!

and about bloody time!!

an appropriate and telling comment from the wongster...

"...Critically, the opposition foreign affairs spokesperson, Labor's Penny Wong, stood firm with the government. "I'd make the point that the Chinese ambassador spoke about not wanting to resort to recrimination, division and suspicion and what I'd say is that's precisely why we are supporting a call for an independent inquiry into the origin of the virus," she said. "We have to press what is right, what we believe is right, for us and for the international community, and making sure that humanity understands how this virus started is the right thing to do.""

clever comment

its pretty basic science to know the source to find the cure. its just plain disgusting that china has deflected this point for so long

"...Even Australia's business leaders, consistent Beijing boosters, can not possibly support China on this."

well thank fuck for that! ....sorry twigster..

...and certain uni professors.... bahahahaha

". But Cheng's foolishness is Australia's fortune. It is now plain for all to see that the CCP is waging political war on Australia, using trade as a weapon..."

totally understated for far too long, blind feddy and all that.. the facade had just become embarrassing for all involved

and the media's role?

...well...

"...This is Australia's moment of clarity. Australia has allowed itself to become more dependent on Chinese trade today than it has on any single nation since Britain in the 1960s and 1970s.

That ended in profound shock when Britain cut its trade preferences with Australia to join the European Common Market in 1973. We failed to remember our history and we have repeated our error."

...and britain coming out of that union offers oz many unique opportunities, a perfect (positive) storm you might say... almost...

oh the irony ...again...

a return to the angslophere? ....oh well, ...ya gotta grab your opportunities and all that...

the ip fawners are getting riled, but it doesn't seem all bad so far...

just the war problem

china's looking pretty lonely

their ruse is up

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Vic Local Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 10:23am

"a return to the angslophere? ....oh well, ...ya gotta grab your opportunities and all that.."

Oh please. The anglosphere has never been so weak and divided, and there's no turnaround due to Covid 19. In fact, the opposite is true.
The UK and USA have retreated into their own borders. Australia is seen as a pathetic US sycophant that no longer punches above it's weight. NZ and Canada were always middle powers that rely on coalitions to have any influence.

Guess who has filled the geo-political void. It's Chi-na. There's only one main player in international development and it's not the USA. And you blokes are still wonder why China is becoming a super-power. Have a read of this article from the Irish Times to see what state the Anglosphere's big cheese is in. Spoiler alert. It's a shit show.

THE WORLD HAS LOVED, HATED AND ENVIED THE U.S. NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE PITY IT

Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.

However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignant narcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.

Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s best concentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre of the pandemic.

As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”

It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governments to fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.
The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political death wish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses that haunt the American subconscious dance naked on live TV.

If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an idea that has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated.

Other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, who is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishing they lived in Detroit or Dallas?
It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions would prevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.

Abject surrender

What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility, care and even safety.

Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rd that governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.

In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling from all over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.

Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”

This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.
It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infused in the mindset of the American right.
Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heart of US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.

The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caught between authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.

Fertile ground

But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.

There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with the belief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps your need to avoid infection.

Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a large part of the US has hit the bottle even harder.
And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance on the US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.
That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised. When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.

And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But now that the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.
As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater. If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have to clean up the toxic dump he leaves behind. If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.

Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again.

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zenagain Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 10:56am

An article Sam Clench would be jizzing over Vic. You can almost see the author wiping the foam off the screen.

Meanwhile...

https://www.realestate.com.au/news/mawallok-estate-chinese-business-tyco...

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sypkan Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:32pm

I was half joking, but it is happening, whether you like it or not...

I didn't say it'd be successsful

actually, it seems much of europe is in, so it's much more than an anglosphere. asia seems pretty grumpy too, it's a common enemy

I reckon it'll be a new globalisation mongrel that will develop, with india 'lifting millions out of poverty' as the india peasant factory model replaces the chinese peasant factory model, more manufacturing at home, and high end still in japan korea etc

India, or maybe indonesia, vietnam...

very colonialist...

but big change is afoot, that's for sure

I agree with pretty much all of your article, aside ftom being totally biased, it raises some good points, however

america is what it is...

republicans are what they are...

and the left of politics and their media are just as culpable for the toxic nature of current politics

biden our saviour? bahahahaha

biden is complicit, corrupted, connected to the problem, and totally not operating anywhere near full capacity ...just like his party...

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zenagain Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 11:08am

It's happening here Syp, Abe has just committed $2 billion to bring business 'back home'.

Meanwhile China on the quiet in recent days have been harassing vessels and ducking in and out of Japanese waters (Senkaku) in their research vessels that just happen to be heavily armed, thinly disguised warships.

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 11:23am

China's interest in the South Pacific is an interesting one. I'd put my money on it being related to the fish stocks more than military muscle. Fishing grounds in corruptable West & East African countries have now been obliterated and I reckon they are now searching for new fishing grounds to feed that protein hungry population.

This kind of industry should be of concern to most local fishermen.

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zenagain Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 11:29am

That Gary and a coupla trillion cubic feet of natural gas.

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Cromwell Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:43pm

“I support a fella harmlessly cracking a whip in legitimate protest at a Chinese consul and he says that my very acceptance of the fella’s action is encouraging racial violence”

Blowin 27 April 7.15 pm.

The suggestion that that threats and intimidation are harmless is a lie. The medical literature demonstrates that such behaviour impacts the mental health and the physical health of victims even to the level of precipitating heart attacks. The suggestion that it was a legitimate protest is a lie. It was an assault perpetrated by a single offender. The suggestion that the whip cracking was aimed at the Chinese Consul is a lie. The Consul was inside the building. The assault was against people queuing to enter the building. The seriousness of the offence is demonstrated by the fact that the offender was arrested and charged. This was clearly an incident of a completely unjustified assault based on the race of the victims. To publicly express support and approval for such an act inherently encourages similar acts.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 1:05pm

Sorry, Blindboy.

None of your above post was based on fact.

Precipitated heart attacks.....FFS.

Go the whip cracker ! Give it to those CCP scum !

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:05pm

So stress causes heart attacks ?

Imagine how many heart attacks that the China virus has brought on around the world !

It’s bad enough that China is responsible for the hundreds of thousands of direct deaths resulting from their virus before you even factor in the millions of dead from China virus stress .

But it’s not like the CCP killing millions of people is anything new is it ?

No wonder that Aussie whip cracking hero chose to take a stand at the Chinese consulate ! I imagine that the Chinese consulate wished they had a couple of those Tiananmen Square tanks on hand.....they proved so adept at murdering protesters before .

And now the fuckwit China government mouthpiece has openly threatened economic sanctions on those good hearted Aussie scientists you were referring to the other day. Those same scientists who hold integrity above all else are now being called “ dangerous “ by the Chinese government because they want to research the China virus which is plaguing the world and causing millions of heart attacks. China now intends to send innocent Aussie kids into poverty because they are desperate to hide their CCP guilt .

My chest hurts just thinking about the stress the Chinese are inflicting on the world.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 2:39pm

Hundreds of thousands of people dying from the China virus , entire economies ruined , lives thrown into chaos , China directly threatening the livelihood of millions of Australians........

and Blindboy thinks that a single brave Aussie cracking a whip in protest at the Chinese consulate is the source of any possible antipathy towards China.

And that the theoretical suggestion that a couple of people who witnessed the legitimate protest suffered heart attacks is the situation in Australia which really needs public condemnation.

If it wasn’t so insulting to the billions of people around the world who are genuinely suffering as a result of Chinese misbehaviour, it’d be funny.

Time to take a look in the mirror, Blindboy.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:10pm

Here’s an idea , BB.

Why restrict your opinion to the internet ?

Why not head down to the main street of the nearest town and give a public speech about how China is the victim in this current circumstance of the world being pushed to the edge of viability.

Tell all those crew who are fearful for themselves and their loved ones, the people facing bankruptcy and unemployment, the fathers who aren’t sure how they may provide food for their families....tell them how worried you are for the Chinese officials at the consulate who just compounded the misery by threatening our country and how unfair it is for China to be so terribly insulted by a single brave Aussie taking a stand against an empire of 1.6 billion people.

Please report back with the outcome.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 2:06pm

Blindboy.....don’t forget the photo evidence of your big welcome by the understanding townsfolk when you relay just how poorly China is being treated.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 2:21pm

And Blindboy .....whatever became of your apocalyptic cheer squad in charge of the Doomsday clock ?

Far be it from me to suggest that they are a bunch of handwringing , politically driven soft cocks who refused to accept the honest result of a democratic election, but they were last heard loudly proclaiming that the Earth was the closest it had EVER BEEN to total destruction due to , well due to Trump being elected and nothing more.

Now that the world has been plunged into circumstances so dire that we’ve seen nothing like it for several generations, they are noticeably absent.

Good.

How many times have you been on the wrong side of truth in these forums , mate ?

Calculating that massive figure is the sort of work that requires the mathematical ability of your nuclear theorist mates.

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Balance Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:29pm

Every day I drive down 200metres of driveway, that shares a fence with my neighbour

My dog and his dog eye each other for a few seconds...then its on. They bark and start chasing each other up and down the entire length of the fence...barking, snapping, over and over again. Every fucking day the same thing

I always just look at her bewildered...you're better than this!

Blowfly. What an annoying pest

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:39pm

Sounds like there’s more than one bitch in your car.

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JQ Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:42pm

Actually Blowin, it's the Corona virus, not the china virus. No worries cobba, honest mistake I'm sure.

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Cromwell Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:50pm

Oh look another lie!

“The Chinese aren’t fucking around....they sent warships uninvited and unannounced into Sydney harbour last year. “
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“Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the arrival of the warships in Sydney had been planned for some time. He said it was a "reciprocal visit" as Australian naval vessels had visited China.”

I apologise if this provokes another series of rants but some lies need to be called out as they are deliberate attempts to incite fear and hatred.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:52pm

Who told you it was the Corona virus ?

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 3:56pm

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AndyM Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:03pm

And there’s a return by Blowin, not a great deal of finesse but with some power behind it. Cromwell’s been playing with plenty of passion and despite occasionally letting his emotions get the better of his technique, it’ll be interesting to see what he does with this.

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Vic Local Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:14pm

"a single brave Aussie cracking a whip in protest at the Chinese consulate"
Hey Blowin, I think you spelt "dumbass aggressive redneck" wrong.

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Cromwell Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:27pm

Well yes the visit was unexpected in the sense that it was not publicly announced so if you had been on the Manly ferry you might have been moved to exclaim " I didn't expect that!". But what you said was "....they sent warships uninvited....", which is very different, inflammatory .....and a big smelly lie! They were invited as part of a reciprocal arrangement under which HAMAS Melbourne had already visited a Chinese post.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:37pm

Mate , the Chinese government is telling the world that the China virus was planted by the US military and that it first occurred in America....if you want to talk about inflammatory lying.

The Premier of NSW didn’t know the Chinese warships were coming and she said as much. It’s been said by knowledgeable sources that the federal government didn’t know about the Chinese warships in Sydney Harbor until they docked and that they claimed to be aware of their arrival to hide their ineptitude and dilute public anger.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:48pm

Andy....Blindboy is doing anything to draw attention away from the outright threats being issued by the Chinese government against the Australian people.

That’s all you’ve got to know.

Why else do you think he keeps changing the subject to things we discussed weeks ago ?

Because there’s no denying or lying his way out of the arrogance and undisguised aggression coming from the mouth of the CCP.

They are threatening you and me , Andy.

Unequivocal threats against Australians.....fighting words by Chinese communist scum .

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:50pm

"Actually Blowin, it's the Corona virus, not the china virus. No worries cobba, honest mistake I'm sure."

To be fair while not official names like COVID-19 "China virus" Wuhan virus" are acceptable common name terms as that is clearly where the virus started.

It's not racist to call it those things, it's not about the race but about the country of origin.

It's no different to "Spanish flue" or "German measles" or even "Ross river fever" im sure they all have proper scientific names. (latin names?)

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JQ Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:57pm

I spose it depends on what your goals are doesn't it Indo. If you want to have a constructive conversation about the issues at hand, the most accurate way to describe it is 'Corona virus' as it's a member of the corona virus family.

If you just want to whip up a bit of xenophobia, or deflect from your own failings - china virus it is.

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JQ Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:58pm

"It’s been said by knowledgeable sources" have you been on facebook again?

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 5:06pm

Xenophobia ?

What are you twelve years old ?

200 odd foreign countries in the world and only one of them is responsible for the China Virus. Here’s a list of some places which aren’t responsible for the China virus....Ross river , Ebola , Middle East , Lyme county , Zika.

Anyway....just more distraction from the fact that the Chinese government intends to order its 1.6 billion people to boycott Australia and attempt to impoverish Australian families because the CCP is afraid that a scientific study of the virus will reveal their guilt.

Not sure if you would class their behaviour as xenophobic or racist or whatever moralistic buzzword you might apply, everyone else just knows it as.....unmasked aggression AKA fighting words.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 5:34pm

JQ....Do you consider the suggestion that an international body investigating the origins of the virus so as to increase our understanding , to be worthy of open threats by the Chinese government towards innocent Australians ?

Are you a charter fisherman, JQ ?

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Cromwell Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 5:33pm

"knowledgeable sources that the federal government didn’t know about the Chinese warships in Sydney Harbor until they docked"

"The Australian Defence Force (ADF) said China had asked for the visit in April, and that the government was committed to fostering a “long-term constructive relationship with China”.
“Australia regularly hosts foreign navy vessels in its ports,” said an ADF spokesperson. “Notification to the public is not standard practice and is usually considered on a case-by-case basis.” "

"Knowlegeable sources" as here, usually equates to bullshit merchants selling the implausible to the uninformed. A Chinese fleet sails undetected along the east coast and arrives without invitation or detection in Sydney Harbour? Gullible doesn't even begin to describe it. Still it has some value as a lesson in just how much confirmation bias can dull the wits.

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Blowin Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 5:39pm

Here’s the largest media outlet in Germany holding China to account...and this is before China started issuing threats to Australia

https://www.jpost.com/international/germanys-largest-paper-to-chinas-pre...

Israel holds China accountable too.