The Israel Palestine problem solving thread

soggydog wrote:

Any way I’m got try and stay away too. The likes of Indo and RK get me a bit annoyed as their wilful ignorance and cheering the blood letting is pretty sick. A guy from Phillip Island who regards Palestinians as his “enemy” and anybody who presents a counter narrative is. Hamas “ Simp” and a “ traitor to the west” is clearly a very simple minded character. I should know better.

Um nah sorry mate ive never suggested anything of the sort about Palestine civilians, actually quite a number of times ive said Hamas need to go and be destroyed for both the people in Israel and also people in Gaza, who deserve a half decent government, one that doesn't waste billions on tunnel's and rockets and the start wars with the intent of bring a war to Gaza with the intent of getting civilians killed all so they can get support from suckers like you.

The people in Gaza have no future if Hamas stays in power, 18 years already wasted.

And yes you and others are Hamas simps and traitors, you never ever criticise Hamas always Israel and you try to make ridiculous comparisons/claims like a military bunker under a military base is the same as hundreds of kilometres of tunnels and bases under civilian's areas, hospitals, schools, playgrounds , because you want to pretend they are some how "same same"

Its not at all the same its not even remotely the same, even if a military base is in a built up area (there is two in tel aviv one is in a built up area one is not) it could easily be taken out without destroying surrounding budldings.

But its completely impossible to take out military infrastructure that is under combined with or under civilian buildings literally hundreds opf kilometres of tunnels, that the whole strategy of Hamas we all know that, even now they have been firing rockets from the designate safe zones, knowing IDF have two choices, take out locations rockets have been fired from and risk killing civilians or let them shoot more rockets.

sorry smiley

Going bananas again and somehow thought we were going to Mexico ( Cortez ) .

U are probably giving me wonderful hints of some local spots .

Am really struggling with PI when it gets bigger and still NE , as only know Woollies .

I need to check out Cat Bay Area , probably and work out how to get to ( I get lost ) a nice reef when SW .

Smiths is only good for paddle :)

I really appreciate any good advice and will read your messages with different lens .

Gosh , making a habit of this .

Sorry , mate .

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Somers Creek I have found :)

I have surfed a place a few times that needed a boat , in Victoria .

A really scary left hander that breaks on a very consistent sand bank .

We called it Quarra , but better know as Quarantine .

I hope U are not sending me there ????

BTW.Gaza does have a high population density, but its not as high as some often make out even Indonesia has quite a few areas that have a higher pop density, same with Singapore.

"A common claim in news reports, viral videos, and even in official statements by world leaders and public figures, is that the Gaza Strip is the most densely populated place in the world, or at least one of the densest. We set out to factcheck this claim.

Bottom line? Not true.

This would not be the first – or even the most commonly reiterated – fallacy propagated in regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, yet for the sake of accuracy, one has to acknowledge the facts that shape the discussion on this claim. While the Gaza Strip is certainly a densely populated area, it does not even crack the top 50 most densely populated areas or cities in the world.

Population density is measured according to population size relative to the area of a given territory. In the Gaza Strip there are approximately 2 million residents, in an area that spans 365 square kilometres. Quick calculations peg Gaza’s population density at 5,479 people per square kilometre – roughly the density of London. Is London being presented as one of the most densely populated places on earth?

https://idsf.org.il/en/opinion-en/gaza-densest-populated-place/

Even areas of Israel have a higher population density

"Gaza City is the 63rd most densely populated urban area in the world at 42,059 per square mile. This is far below Bnei Brak in Israel (76,000 per square mile)"

Eyes rolling backwards like a pokie on continuous 5 games play at 3am on any sad suburban night…… what has Mexico got to do with Cortez pops unless you’re thinking about the Incas and,and just about the best darn live version of Cortez the Killer Neil Young and Crazy Horse ever played (incidentally the WELD Tour is remembered for its raw energy and anger during the first Gulf War)

Suggest play it as loud as your sound system will go
https://m.

As for surf on the Island there are so many options just explore every road ocean side or just DM the infowomble he’s good for advice, struth he’s told me where to go plenty of times over the years!!

Cotez as in Cortes Bank , which is relatively , as I just looked up , close to fn Mexico .

Where are U talking about ?

I was thinking Inca , love Crazy Horse and listen to Neil Young and U want to send me to Quarantine .

U really are trying to fk with my mind ( its already weird :) .

Cool .

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I have had too much coffee .

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And a killer song that goes for 9 minutes ( listened to about 39 seconds ( 19 plus 10 )) and it DIDN't KILL me .

The Bank near Mexico could .

@Pop,
"They should not be accused of Genocide in ANY court , anywhere .

A disclaimer

I am NO lawyer .

I defined MY view of what genocide is , I hope clearly ."

I'm not anymore either, (our old mate Bill still is, spoke to him yesterday), fortunately better minds than ours defined it, The legal definition in the Genocide Convention.

"The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part. It does not include political groups or so called “cultural genocide”."

The UN definition...
"To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group."

You will probably be able to find a whole heap more via google.
Make up your own mind.
The World Court will be making it's mind up on it soon. So let's see what they say.
Hamas are a blight on their people, peace, all Palestinians,
But they weren't created in a vacuum, there's a reason they exist and a reason they created the tunnels, 'self defence' goes both ways in any conflict. Actually they wouldn't even be there if not for Israeli support and Bibi Netanyahu. But some facts get glossed over in the rush to label some as "simps" by others.
Edit. I'm so over this thread I'm either gonna fuck it off out of my life completely, or flood the fuck out of it with irrelevant stupid people, smart people, music, kids and animal videos. Haven't decided yet.
Edit. You're rambling on a bit at the mo', you sure it's just the coffee or is there something skunky on the menu today too? If so, wish I was there making a big dint in it (your shout).

indo-dreaming wrote:

BTW.Gaza does have a high population density, but its not as high as some often make out even Indonesia has quite a few areas that have a higher pop density, same with Singapore.

"A common claim in news reports, viral videos, and even in official statements by world leaders and public figures, is that the Gaza Strip is the most densely populated place in the world, or at least one of the densest. We set out to factcheck this claim.

Bottom line? Not true.

This would not be the first – or even the most commonly reiterated – fallacy propagated in regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, yet for the sake of accuracy, one has to acknowledge the facts that shape the discussion on this claim. While the Gaza Strip is certainly a densely populated area, it does not even crack the top 50 most densely populated areas or cities in the world.

Population density is measured according to population size relative to the area of a given territory. In the Gaza Strip there are approximately 2 million residents, in an area that spans 365 square kilometres. Quick calculations peg Gaza’s population density at 5,479 people per square kilometre – roughly the density of London. Is London being presented as one of the most densely populated places on earth?

https://idsf.org.il/en/opinion-en/gaza-densest-populated-place/

Even areas of Israel have a higher population density

"Gaza City is the 63rd most densely populated urban area in the world at 42,059 per square mile. This is far below Bnei Brak in Israel (76,000 per square mile)"

Most densely populated spot on earth that is being bombed without an escape route for its inhabitants??
Maybe ....

andy-mac wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

BTW.Gaza does have a high population density, but its not as high as some often make out even Indonesia has quite a few areas that have a higher pop density, same with Singapore.

"A common claim in news reports, viral videos, and even in official statements by world leaders and public figures, is that the Gaza Strip is the most densely populated place in the world, or at least one of the densest. We set out to factcheck this claim.

Bottom line? Not true.

This would not be the first – or even the most commonly reiterated – fallacy propagated in regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, yet for the sake of accuracy, one has to acknowledge the facts that shape the discussion on this claim. While the Gaza Strip is certainly a densely populated area, it does not even crack the top 50 most densely populated areas or cities in the world.

Population density is measured according to population size relative to the area of a given territory. In the Gaza Strip there are approximately 2 million residents, in an area that spans 365 square kilometres. Quick calculations peg Gaza’s population density at 5,479 people per square kilometre – roughly the density of London. Is London being presented as one of the most densely populated places on earth?

https://idsf.org.il/en/opinion-en/gaza-densest-populated-place/

Even areas of Israel have a higher population density

"Gaza City is the 63rd most densely populated urban area in the world at 42,059 per square mile. This is far below Bnei Brak in Israel (76,000 per square mile)"

Most densely populated spot on earth that is being bombed without an escape route for its inhabitants??
Maybe ....

And their govt is responsible. Not maybe.

andy-mac wrote:

Winning hearts and minds ...
Carnts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/10/west-bank-videos-show-isra...

Very little context. These clips are open for misinformation and spreading false narrative.

Why would 5 dudes be out in a war zone with armed troops around? A casual meetup to chat about their day?

Israel spreads misinformation clips, Hamas spreads misinformation clips, media spreads misinformation clips. Palestinians spread misinformation clips. Most clips like this are not as they are promoted.

The West Bank is not a war zone. Apparently.

seeds wrote:

The West Bank is not a war zone. Apparently.

Apparently there is no occupying force in the West Bank, just rightful land owners taking back their land. They read it in a book. Some call this book fact, others fiction....

Roadkill wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

BTW.Gaza does have a high population density, but its not as high as some often make out even Indonesia has quite a few areas that have a higher pop density, same with Singapore.

"A common claim in news reports, viral videos, and even in official statements by world leaders and public figures, is that the Gaza Strip is the most densely populated place in the world, or at least one of the densest. We set out to factcheck this claim.

Bottom line? Not true.

This would not be the first – or even the most commonly reiterated – fallacy propagated in regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, yet for the sake of accuracy, one has to acknowledge the facts that shape the discussion on this claim. While the Gaza Strip is certainly a densely populated area, it does not even crack the top 50 most densely populated areas or cities in the world.

Population density is measured according to population size relative to the area of a given territory. In the Gaza Strip there are approximately 2 million residents, in an area that spans 365 square kilometres. Quick calculations peg Gaza’s population density at 5,479 people per square kilometre – roughly the density of London. Is London being presented as one of the most densely populated places on earth?

https://idsf.org.il/en/opinion-en/gaza-densest-populated-place/

Even areas of Israel have a higher population density

"Gaza City is the 63rd most densely populated urban area in the world at 42,059 per square mile. This is far below Bnei Brak in Israel (76,000 per square mile)"

Most densely populated spot on earth that is being bombed without an escape route for its inhabitants??
Maybe ....

And their govt is responsible. Not maybe.

Government /Hamas is fully responsible, for bringing a war on the people but also the only reason Egypt wont allow temporary protection, is Egypt want nothing to do with Gaza, they too have had a blockade on the Gaza border because Gaza is basically a terrorist state.

andy-mac wrote:

seeds wrote:

The West Bank is not a war zone. Apparently.

Apparently there is no occupying force in the West Bank, just rightful land owners taking back their land. They read it in a book. Some call this book fact, others fiction....

Yes it’s the Arab Muslims who are the occupying force in the region. They arrived from…well…Arabia…relatively late in the piece in history, and by conquest - raping, pillaging, slaughtering and subjugating the survivors into slavery without “lowering themselves” into working or toiling but simply living off the slaves. This is just history 101, detailed in every history textbook. To believe otherwise is just believing Islamic terrorist propaganda.

Look it up. The vast majority of Jewish people in Israel today have absolutely no genetic indigenous roots to Israel whatsoever. They are Jewish by faith only not by millennia of historical indigenous roots.

seeds have you gotten on a plane yet to fight alongside your terrorist mates, or are you just all talk and too soft?

More stupid statements from stupid people

seeds wrote:

Look it up. The vast majority of Jewish people in Israel today have absolutely no genetic indigenous roots to Israel whatsoever. They are Jewish by faith only not by millennia of historical indigenous roots.

"Genetic studies have revealed that Jewish populations worldwide share a significant amount of Middle Eastern genetic ancestry,[186] suggesting a common origin in the ancient Near East.[187] This shared genetic heritage likely includes contributions from the Israelites and other ancient populations in the region.[187][188] Jews also exhibit genetic signatures that indicate some degree of genetic admixture with local populations in the regions where they settled due to intermarriage, migrations, and other interactions with those populations throughout history.[188] Jews of diverse ancestries exhibit genetic connections to neighboring non-Jewish populations in the Levant, such as the Lebanese, Samaritans, Palestinians, Bedouins, and Druze. Additionally, there are genetic connections to Southern European populations, including Cypriots, Italians (southern) and Greeks, which can be attributed to historical interactions and migrations.[189][186][1"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Jews#Genetics

BTW. in regard to that last line, thats in relation to the fact the Philistines came from Greece, so while they were enemies of the Jews even their DNA is within some of the population

"Most scholars agree that the Philistines were of Greek origin, and that they came from Crete and the rest of the Aegean Islands or, more generally, from the area of modern-day Greece"

A few other things to note while many Jews always remained in Israel, many often assume Jews all returned from Europe which is not true, they fled to many areas, before returning.

" Nearly half of all Israeli Jews are descended from Jews who made aliyah from Europe, while around the same number are descended from Jews who made aliyah from Arab countries, Iran, Turkey, and Central Asia. Over two hundred thousand are, or are descended from, Ethiopian and Indian Jews.[31]

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

seeds wrote:

The West Bank is not a war zone. Apparently.

Apparently there is no occupying force in the West Bank, just rightful land owners taking back their land. They read it in a book. Some call this book fact, others fiction....

Ahhh land rights eh?
https://www.swellnet.com/forums/wax/521681

Comparing Jews and Arabs WITH FNP and the English .

In MY opinion , that is not even Apples with Oranges .

Almost , Fruit with Cake , nearly , perhaps ?

SR

I didn't watch the Simpsons but I do like their sense of humour .

Enjoyed the clip lol , and think U have a good funny bone :)

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A Gazunder ???!!!!

Base 6

Please let me imagine what it might be for a while before posing a definition .

Please star a Thread where we guess definitions .

Everyone will promise not to use google !

edit Gazzy

Does a guzunder live under anything in an apartment ?

For some reason , I hope not .

I don't like Guzunders ! I think ?

Roadkill wrote:

AlfredWallace wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

I’m thinking of moving to the botany nerds ahoy thread..and start randomly posting YouTube and talking about Israel/Hamas.

You guys bring your stuff here, I might take what interests me over there. Or, I might just copy what you guys post and repost it in that thread.

What you all think?

Or. Let’s keep topic threads for what they are.

Roadkill. You’re an adult. Do what you want.

Why do you need to tell us what the fuck you are doing ?

Would you like me to write a note for your teacher ?

Fair dinkum..AW

Fair Dinkum...would be a great name for a plant, or a bush, or a shrub, or tree, don't you think?

RoadThrill. Do you know what dinkum means and of its origin ? AW

Pop Down wrote:

Comparing Jews and Arabs WITH FNP and the English .

In MY opinion , that is not even Apples with Oranges .

Almost a Fruit with a Cake , nearly .

Thanks for the continued confirmation @popdown

AlfredWallace wrote:

RoadThrill. Do you know what dinkum means and of its origin ? AW

haha, Strine/Stryne.. now there's thread! My fave is a 'gazunder'

Well, no stopping nongs,
Calling an end to that truce for this post.
"because Gaza is basically a terrorist state."
Er, except it's not a state.
Palestine is a state.
Denied statehood by Israel.
Gaza is a polity. An Israeli occupied territory since the '67 war, occupied by Egypt and Jordan from the '48 war until then.
The vast majority of it's citizens do not take up arms against Israel. They are just people, like all of us, except they are stuck in that shithole. They have the same rights as any other human.
Can't get the basics right ever, can you?
And I find it highly hypocritical that someone who didn't give a fuck about historical rights of FNP who were here for over 60,000 years starts advocating about who's got a historical claim less than 3000 years old on the other side of the world. And is a cheerleader here for those better armed terrorists from Tel Aviv. Who's the "simp"? The man in the mirror at your place Top Dumb.
Would love to see your face if a FNP army showed up and kicked your dumb arse off the Island, because they were there "first". Bet there's ancient middens not far from where you compose your bullshit. Go post a photo of them.

@Oliver.ricci. Instead of coming on here and repeating that same dumb line, why don't you jump on a plane to fuck off land yourself and when you get there jump on another one and fuck off some more.It's a shit point you are trying to make, you made it, so come up with something else if you can. That one's boring and scores zero points.
And you Goose, co piloting with Top Dumb once more, the thing about actual footage is that it can be verified and time stamped and seen and reviewed by many. Yep, they all lie, the world is full of misinformation but if you are smart enough and check your sources, you can generally not get misled by it. From my view looking at you and your contributions here, I'd say a lot of that misinformation you talk about is between your two fucking ears, not on here.
Fuck you guys. "The Mummy Returns " is on my tv atm and it's a shit movie I've watched a bit of before but it's less mind numbing than reading your prattle, so give as good as you want replying, I won't read it. Read enough of your bullshit to last a lifetime.
Fuck this thread.

yep @adam12.. we accept ya... one of us... one of us...
come join us freaks who care deeply about people,
and think this thread is mostly gross and cheap and pitiful,
and are gobsmacked at what garners reams of pages on a surf site

Love yer work as always @adam12.
Been thinking of you and your dog lots everyday.
Sending lots of good energy to you both.

@adam 12 , If you ever venture to Bali, please drop me a line and come visit me on Lembongan. I will take ya fishing and catch a few waves . It’s only a B grade wave at the wreck and lacerations is super competitive these days but we will have fun . Would love to swap stories of when you did the night club gig and I was doorman ( commissionaire ) at jupiters . We are the same vintage and even though we haven’t always agreed, I enjoy your posts .

indo-dreaming][quote=seeds wrote:

Look it up. The vast majority of Jewish people in Israel today have absolutely no genetic indigenous roots to Israel whatsoever. They are Jewish by faith only not by millennia of historical indigenous roots.

"Genetic studies have revealed that Jewish populations worldwide share a significant amount of Middle Eastern genetic ancestry,[186] suggesting a common origin in the ancient Near East.[187] This shared genetic heritage likely includes contributions from the Israelites and other ancient populations in the region.[187][188] Jews also exhibit genetic signatures that indicate some degree of genetic admixture with local populations in the regions where they settled due to intermarriage, migrations, and other interactions with those populations throughout history.[188] Jews of diverse ancestries exhibit genetic connections to neighboring non-Jewish populations in the Levant, such as the Lebanese, Samaritans, Palestinians, Bedouins, and Druze. Additionally, there are genetic connections to Southern European populations, including Cypriots, Italians (southern) and Greeks, which can be attributed to historical interactions and migrations.[189][186][1"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Jews#Genetics

BTW. in regard to that last line, thats in relation to the fact the Philistines came from Greece, so while they were enemies of the Jews even their DNA is within some of the population

"Most scholars agree that the Philistines were of Greek origin, and that they came from Crete and the rest of the Aegean Islands or, more generally, from the area of modern-day Greece"

A few other things to note while many Jews always remained in Israel, many often assume Jews all returned from Europe which is not true, they fled to many areas, before returning.

" Nearly half of all Israeli Jews are descended from Jews who made aliyah from Europe, while around the same number are descended from Jews who made aliyah from Arab countries, Iran, Turkey, and Central Asia. Over two hundred thousand are, or are descended from, Ethiopian and Indian Jews.[31][/quote

How low can the cnut go Info Eugenics is back

goofyfoot wrote:

Pop Down wrote:

Hello goofy

I went to bed last week and had a bad nights sleep after watching and reading a clip on this thread .

I can have a real NORMAL fight with anyone , usually , and just turn off as I am only grumpy , not upset .

This thread is used , by both sides , to show the horrors of war .

The Clips of this War are way to easy to find , get upset about and fn POST as a bomb , to upset others .

This stuff is available everywhere and I don't want to see them ( or try and concentrate on a photo ) on SN .

An message from anyone is easy for ME to ignore .

A gory photo or Clip , almost impossible for me to forget .

As this topic is important to me I will try and contribute .

I STILL hope its removed from SN .

I will endure it but I know it's not good for me .

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I got really upset about reading a story about a little Palestinian boy , I now , fn remember .

Not a clip or photo .

Hi pop. Yeah it’s disturbing.
I’m going to “pop down!” On reading the forums for a bit.
I already regret my last post having a go at Indo but it’s out there now so bad luck for me.
It’s pointless having a go at people online but sometimes emotions bubble over, especially when kids are involved.

Hey Goofy. This isn't an airport. No need to announce your arrivals or departures (popdowns).
Hehe. I've been waiting a bloody long time to say that. Only Goofy will understand.
But in all seriousness....you're just expressing the same frustration as everyone.
And it's highly appreciated. You're a good egg Goofy.
As are the majority of thoughtful posters on here.
I'd love to know what a proper thoughtful discussion amongst intelligent indivuals thread on here would look like without the pre ordained short circuit that is inevevitable once the wikipedia expert swellnet savant jumps on here and completely shortcircuits the thread to pieces.
A word of advice to said Savant. There's a saying.
The more you learn, the less you know.
Think about that.

A quote "I grow in learning as I grow in age " - Plato .

Think about that :)

The more I learn , like SR said , the sillier I seem to get ( feel ) .

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2024/jan/11/south-africa-accuses-israel-...

When I was a boy there was an Army of Peace .

I remember Woodstock .

I remember hearing Lennon sing a song that made the world think peace .

Imagine .

This hit us like a ton of bricks !

Heard Melanie sing " Lay Down Candles in the Rain " in Holland with a Passion I just don't see today .

A guy most of U would never have heard of sang a song in 1965 , that made people , back then , take notice AND a step back .

Barry McGuire brought us back from the "Eve of Destruction " .

Things were , perhaps , more simple back then .

The People didn't take sides in that War .

They United . These songs were the peoples anthems .

The Banners of Peace .

Shit , everyone listened and rallied behind them .

No songs uniting anyone atm

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Woodstock was a Peace Protest .

I saw a recent Peace protest in London .

No songs and violence .

What a contrast !

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Seem to remember three words that people chanted at protest rallies back then .

Love , Peace and Harmony .

Churchills Victory sign , was even Turned on it head , and became a Peace Sign .

Wonderful stuff .

South Africa rife with fraud, racketeering, money laundering, crime and inequality.
But hey let’s listen to them as they bring charges against someone else.
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South Africa or Organised Religion?
(or C, all of the above..?)

Optimist wrote:

South Africa rife with fraud, racketeering, money laundering, crime and inequality.
But hey let’s listen to them as they bring charges against someone else.
,

Mmm might be correct on all accounts, but that does not diminish the evidence being presented to the court.

Hey 6

Been thinking this morning ALL wars come down to one thing .

A persons Freedom .

A persons right to choose or not to choose religion .

The WW's or the Communism Capitalism fight ( Vietnam ) were both fighting for Individual freedom imho .

The Peace Movement became a World Voice .

No one cared about who did what to who when .

Everyone just said , and the Western Leaders heard it SO clearly , just STOP .

They drew a line in the proverbial Sand ( Abraham Accord ) and we now have a North and South Korea .

And it did stop , for a while , but that line in the sand has HELD .

Any court , even in the US now , can be rigged .

Any innocent person would love to Prove their innocence .

U can't do that to a Rigged Court ( think Spanish Inquisition ) .

Trumpy won't go to any US court , nearly .

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A movie clip about the Holy Wars has an Arab General talking to a defeated but respected enemy .

The Arab General tells the Knight " my Master has arrived ( and u are fucked ) " and Saladins Army appears .

The Arab general sees a glint of Light and says to an aide " Tell Saladin , Jerusalem has come " and the Boy Lepper King appears from a mirage with Banners Flying and and Army following .

Maybe , bullshit .

Saladin and Baldwin did meet at this spot at this time .

The parleyed ( had a chat ) .

They both came to fight each other that DAY .

They were wise leaders and didn't really want their soldiers to die .

They found common ground and came to terms .

Both Armies withdrew , that day instead .

History has som many good lessons for me to remember .

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As Trump believe he is a Supreme Person , there is only ONE Court he will appear before .

andy-mac wrote:

Optimist wrote:

South Africa rife with fraud, racketeering, money laundering, crime and inequality.
But hey let’s listen to them as they bring charges against someone else.
,

Mmm might be correct on all accounts, but that does not diminish the evidence being presented to the court.

Blinken having a bet each way. Hardly surprising of course…..

Optimist wrote:

South Africa rife with fraud, racketeering, money laundering, crime and inequality.
But hey let’s listen to them as they bring charges against someone else.
,

and the above is being kind to them.

how to destroy a country

andy-mac will next be posting Iran blaming Israel for their worst terrorist attack in decades...as many did and even when it was proven wrong...was still posted as it suited a purpose.

seriously, SA is such a shitty country run be corruption it is hilarious to see it posted in here as if it has credibility.

;)

https://m.

https://m.

;);)

https://m.

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Haha… the dill.
- such a shitty person ;);)

…posting on here as if he has any credibility
- in unison with the noinfo gumboot and flopti the pathetic hypocrite ;)

Great comment @basesix
- flopti’s charlatan belief system is rife with fraud, racketeering, money laundering, crime and inequality
… yet we’re supposed to listen to his incessant judgements and absurd bs ;)

Carry on ;);)

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South Africa is now a Chinese and Russian proxy country and one of the basically founding members of BRICS. It’s now also a failed state in strife, beyond repair.

“I remember Woodstock”

Bullshit, if you remember the 60s you weren’t there

Somers Creek was rifling this morning and you wasted my tip here FFS

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/8KdZeTXaev8

https://m.

Optimist wrote:

South Africa rife with fraud, racketeering, money laundering, crime and inequality.
But hey let’s listen to them as they bring charges against someone else.
,

There is no religion greater than the truth and you cnutwomble couldn’t lay straight in bed

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/VZxECOrz34M

https://m.

;)

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hate to say it...

but it is s bit rich coming from south africa

the place is a basket case

a bit like iran getting to be leader of UN human rights council...

it's like ... errr... ok...