The Israel Palestine problem solving thread
Problem Solving Psychedelic { Vote 4 Peace } Eurovision Final.
1968 Representing Israel : The super-duper stoned ~ Churchill's / Straight People
Just chill out ..."We're Voting for them flipped out News cats...!"
(vs)
1969 Representing Lebanon : The even more impossibly stoned ~ News / From the Moon
Sounds so Cool ..."We'll definitely be Voting for them ultra weirdo Churchills!"
More tbb gold ;)
… and shit @adam12… what have u done! ….haha
- here’s ya clip flopti ;);)
And vj you’re usually on the ball but you dropped it big time today…
Building, constructing and creating understanding and resilience and discipline are keystones to a prosperous, productive and fruitful existence.
- an existential reality free of fantasy, bullshit and being a flake ;)
Note the first comment on this vid is :
‘I’m proud of this Muslim brother as a Christian’
- funny that ay flopti u farkn warmongering crusader ;)
Off to ‘planet heaven’ u go haha
https://m.
&pp=ygUYdWZjIGlzcmFlbCB2cyBwYWxlc3RpbmUg @JF
"Fighting is the antithesis of martial training. Like a lot of things, u have no farkn idea. So best stfu."
Yo Optimist.
Read this quote, then re-read then fucking read it again.
Then stay the fuck out of my conversations and spend that time growing up in the real world.
@VJ,
nah, bullshit.
I've built a lot of things in my time and actually the self discipline I acquired training my arse off when I was young helped me a great deal in accomplishing them.
The past decade or so I have learned mechanical engineering skills I never had, all off the internet and you tube.
I'm half way through re doing the entire front end steering and suspension on a classic 1980's Mercedes Benz 8 seater limo as I write this.
That job would cost about $10K at a mechanic.
Just costing me parts.
One "hobby" doesn't impede another.
Pro fighting is a highly evolved skill set that has taken many from poverty to riches and particularly last century was one of the great "event" sports. As a boy I got to watch all of Ali's incredible career (thanks to the late Ron Casey at Ch7) and let me tell you the excitement would make your hair stand on end. And before anyone starts up, yes these athletes get damaged, they all know the risks and are trained to absorb a lot of that damage, and most wouldn't have it any other way.
Are you two pussies suggesting people who watch football or rugby need to get a life too?
@Jelly, set off a little bomb didn't I.
At least my bombs don't kill children.
Carry on.
adam12 wrote:Ha! Time for another thread cleanser.And a bit of inspiration for the protagonists on this thread as we wind up page 55 and turn over another.
https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1743302724253278711
I watched this fight live on TV at the time. Tommy " The Hitman" Hearns was always one of my favorites.
As an aside, I had a brief, highly embarrassing amateur career in the ring as a younger much fitter man (2 bouts 2 losses-muay thai) and my camp came up with a different ring name for each, "the Touch of Sleep" and "The Piccola Morte" *Italian for "The little death".
Pity my ring skills didn't match such cool ring names.
A twelve year old girl would beat the shit out of me these days.
Hey Adam... i remember that fight well. Watched it live, too. My gramps was a second generation San Franciscan who wound up bein a bookie, runnin hooch during Prohibition, coming in second in the SF mayor race of 1927, and, a prizefighter. I subsequently grew up learning all about boxing. In the 1980s (and i was a teenager, then) my absolute fave was Thomas Hearns. I had to watch him lose that fight with Hagler, who i always respected but rarely rooted for, and the 1981 fight against Sugar Ray Leonard, whom i dislike to this day. The Leonard-Hearns, 1981 fight is one of the alltime greats.
Boom ;)
… so true adam12
My own martial pursuits have taken me to Japan, China, Thailand, Indonesia and a bunch of other places…
Opened up whole new worlds and experienced so many different cultures and picked up so many valuable and lifelong friends who are from all walks of life, occupations and religions.
The most valuable skill I would say is learning way beyond anything I thought I knew …and having the ability to pick up new perspectives, through respect and humility. Seeing things from new angles, discovering capabilities the mind would otherwise gloss over as useless or simplistic.
The idea any of it encourages or fuels aggro is a myth like a lot of other pre conceived ideas.
My daughters asked to be involved, yes I have influenced them, but they wanted to do it….. and to see them grow in confidence and find their own path is what it’s all about.
It’s a catalyst for change and growth. A gift that is entirely up to the individual to take and run with however they see fit…
The values of respecting elders, having compassion and empathy and the pursuit of honesty are all flow on effects. This then opens up avenues to excel at other pursuits and hobbies and is tremendous for things like enacting balance and emotional stability.
Both my kids are excellent surfers and their physical prowess has accelerated their experience of a healthy life. So, I certainly won’t be paying attention to fucked up religious zealots passing judgement on shit they know nothing of.
And wax24, that leonard/hearns fight is all time - and still controversial in regard to the outcome.
It’s strange ppl like flopti falsely state combat sports as a negative influence in regard to war etc. It is actually the complete opposite. Think of the admirable conduct of Ali in relation to going to Vietnam. I’ve got two mates who served in East Timor, and a kopassus friend in indo from way back. They all abhor war, they all despise political warmongering…
- and they all have life experience that shit all over deluded inbred religious fantasy bs that is, more often than not, the breeding ground of ppl who want war.
These type of zealot weasels are the ones cheering from the sidelines, spouting pathetic commentary from afar, never having tasted anything of real quality or substance.
Float on flopti u great pretender ;)
You are an active joke, time to change location ;);)
@Wax24.
True all that. Tommy was my guy too in that era.
Your gramps sounds like an interesting, very cool cat. Post up some more on him if you can.
@Adam12, @VJ, @JF etc.
Looks like a bit of Linoment/Deep Heat has made its way into the ring, (Boxing , that is), bit of fire and brimstone amongst the subscribers.
Swellnet regulars turned combatants. Testosterone levels maxing out. Good stuff.
I’ll stick with plants and birds for the time being. Hope you are all well. AW
Yeah Jelly, just encapsulating some of what you said into my personal experience...... Ali is one of my Top Four all time sports heroes. Born in 1968, i relied on my parents to gimme the skinny on what Ali did re: the Vietnam War. It is the main reason i hold him so high.
Edit: (hey, Seppos can "Edit," too! It's all the rage!)
Top Fours are popular in Seppoland. We call em "Our Mount Rushmores," eg.. "my Mt. Rushmore of sports heroes is..." 1) Mohammed Ali
2) Lou Gehrig
3) Jackie Robinson
4) Willie Mays
I like the first three because of how i perceive them as human beings and then, secondly, their athletic prowess. Willie Mays was handed down to me by my Dad.
Edit 2: (gettin the hang of this?)
My point is/was that all (or at least most) athletics include some violence or the potential of. And yet, my faves in sports are the ones whom i regard as noble. So much for those pursuits breeding violent instincts. (Yeah, i know. Flimsy argument, but i like to stick to personal experience in lieu of Opinion and #Facts when i can.)
Optimist wrote:The aggro boys still foaming at the mouth and still not understanding why the world can’t possibly survive while people like them still exist in it.
Condones bombing of children (as long as they’re Muslim) .
Denounces martial arts training for children.
Even people dropping bombs on Muslim kids require some sort of combat training Opti.
Hey Adam..... yeah, he was a colorful cat, anyways. His two brothers, my great uncles, tried that life, too. One of em, Tom, passed away from exposure in a drunken stupor on a park bench in Golden Gate Park in the late 1930s. The other, John, was shot dead in a street brawl. That woulda been in the mid 1940s (just after the war.. soldiers coming home.) My gramps, Edward, survived his own self until 1978, when he succumbed to cancer. Irishmen, the lot of em, they all had trouble with the bottle. Passed that down to my Dad, who became the first in family history to quit the stuff., in 1972. My Dad then passed it down to me. I struggled with it til 2010, and became the second family member to recover. My gramps was cool as heck to talk when i was a little kid, and never, in my presence, acted out drunkenly. But, ya had to catch him for a chat before he passed out. SF is a hard drinking town. (What town ain't, i guess?)
Sorry if that all was a bit more than ya bargained for, Adam, lol.
@Wax24,
Nah, love hearing about people's family history, particularly when it's so colorful and interesting like your's sounds.
I come from a long line of Irish drunks myself, on my mum's side, and both my dad and his dad struggled with alcoholism their whole lives.
I made my fortune selling and merchandising the stuff, sold tonnes of it, but both my brother and I knocked it on the head in our early thirties, neither of us ever had a "problem" with it, my brother drank more than I did back then. I was a "social" drinker, never had grog at home, but in those days I used to do quite a bit of "socialising".
Best thing I ever did. I can still have a beer and get pissed on half a stubby, but I couldn't tell you the last time I did, decades ago. I'm no saint though, have plenty of other vices and probably smoked enough dope over the years to supply Jamaica.
They always say you can never trust a man that doesn't drink, but from bitter experience my life taught me the guy you shouldn't probably trust is the one that's pissed all the time. He's the one that usually crashes the ship up on the rocks.
Good chatting to you.
You as well, Adam. Take care til next time.
AlfredWallace wrote:@Adam12, @VJ, @JF etc.
Looks like a bit of Linoment/Deep Heat has made its way into the ring, (Boxing , that is), bit of fire and brimstone amongst the subscribers.
Swellnet regulars turned combatants. Testosterone levels maxing out. Good stuff.
I’ll stick with plants and birds for the time being. Hope you are all well. AW
Haha, nice one AW, but the kookies and maggies have just started a 'turf' war in my yard this week. The kookies have just announced the arrival or 2 new noisy little shits and would prefer the maggies stay away from the compost heap for a while.
Roadkill wrote:old-dog wrote:Burls still wetting his bed over his anti vaxx cult version of the pandemic. Turns every thread into his own delusional vendetta against authority. Pretty sad unit.
100% correct…meanwhile the rest of the world has moved on.
Of course the Dill wants to move on. Gotta be one of your most embarrassing moments they way you carried on.
I will never move on from how we were treated, and I will continue to point out hypocrisy from dopey blokes like mikehunt and yourself.
The laughs are writing themselves with you ladies
So I don't get accused of hijacking this thread with talk about Tommy Hearns and alcoholic heritage and the like, another twitter video, this one's about a UK Israeli ambassador, but the logic and legal reasoning applies equally to some Australian political leaders and some, by no means all, of the Jewish diaspora here.
The UK needs to immediately expel the Israeli Ambassador @tzipiHotovely.
— Owen Jones (@owenjonesjourno) January 5, 2024
She went on British radio - and incited genocide.
That's not simply a moral disgrace. It's illegal under the Genocide Convention of 1948.
Kick her out. pic.twitter.com/9X04pKW0QH
@Wax 24,
Something I forgot to say.
So glad you had Lou Gerhig as your No.2.
Just an incredibly tragic story and what a man he was.
You and I are quite simpatico I believe.
We have a similar story unfolding in our great game, AFL at the moment. A man called Neil Daniher, a great player from a family of great players and brothers who all played at the highest level. Neil went on to coach and is a much loved AFL figure who was tragically struck with MND and has heroically fought what he calls "the beast" these past couple of years and raised many millions for MND research.
One hell of a guy, just like Lou Gerhig was.
I think the beast is probably calling our Neil "the beast" too. Google him if you get a chance.
I'm out of here, offshore and waves on the exposed beaches tomorrow. I'm off to bed. Check ya.
Ah shit, Adam (and ya prob won't see this til your morning), i'd rather the talk of boxing and alcoholic family history at this point in the thread.
Both sides are wrong, and many still feel compelled to pick one side, declare it Right (or, "more right"), and then die on that hill. Discard reality for your narrative. Your narrative is the more important, blah, blah, blah...
It's the way of the world since we all linked up on the interwebz.
Nihilism tends the rule this space.
It is far more important to connect.... boxing, family history, our fave breeds of dog, whatevs....
Sypkin once retorted to me in an argument something along the lines of 'Jeez dude, i'm just trying to find a solution, you're just on here throwing bombs.' I am paraphrasing here.
(Sypkin, i am not bringing this up to diss you, and you were right back then in that i was triggered and just throwing abusive bombs. And i was sorry immediately and needed to apologize long before now. I am sorry.)
But, i disagreed with what he said. Just didn't wanna be abusive any longer, so let it go.
Here it is....
I do NOT believe that we come on here to find solutions. We come on here to do any number of personal things.
Connect with others.
Prop up our egos.
Vent about things we feel powerless over.
Etc.... etc....
A smidge of self awareness in this regard (what are your real motives?) would be such an elixir.
But, it won't happen, and i will prob cop a slight or two for voicing this.
Anyone truly looking to invest in solutions is gonna look outside. In the real world. Not this virtual space.
You are not here for the greater good.
So..... carry on with Hearns, and drunks, and fave sangas, and whatevs else.
Cuz, any "solution" in this space will be found in those conversations.
Talk to y'all later.
And, Adam, i read a little about Neale Daniher. Yeah, parallels to Lou Gehrig, for sure. I have a cousin that lives two states away who is battling this. (ALS, in her case.) I don't think she will see 2025.
It is a fearsome thing up close.
Much scarier than any pointer could ever hope to be.
Thankfully, it is not common. I am sorry that he has it, but it seems he has done well to shine a light. Good man, indeed.
Well done guys, great to hear your retorts that stressed the truly good qualities that come out of your love of martial arts. Learning discipline and learning learning itself is valuable. Strength and self respect would flow from it as well. If it was your way to better things, well done.
Physical fighting for me is coloured by my childhood, against my bro and at my early schooling, and I'm not into it and wish I could take back what I did, or what I copped This was before any training. For many people it's violence and thuggery - kind of like what's going on in Gaza.
I think I like shooting most in that type of martial skill. Rounds on targets as I abhor the killing of anything. Accuracy.
Old systems of fire control in the ship & historical context are fascinating too - they had mechanical computers over a century ago.
AW a couple of the baby currawongs have survived and we are getting to watch them grow up. Mrs Magpie sends them off when she enforces her turf!
The global rise in people watching and enjoying MMA and UFC type fighting plus others is a direct reflection of the state of the world spiritually.
Violence in any form is bad for the soul and should be avoided. Jesus said a little bit of leaven ( yeast) leaveneth the whole lump so best to not watch or take part in fighting sports at all. Retraining your brain to think like a pacifist is something worth practising. Like anything you need to drag yourself into new habits and rejecting any form of violence is a good one to do as it prepares your soul for a new era that is soon to come for mankind.
Jesus teaches us to reject all forms of war and violence so any practising otherwise is disobedient to the teaching of Christ and a direct contradiction to the way.
Understandably, until the coming of a new age of peace, people will defend themselves if war comes to their home soil but to travel to pick a fight is obscene.
Currently, different governments see things differently but if everyone stays home inside their own borders and work on developing what they have into a productive society there will be no war.
I see violence starting in the modern home with children playing video killing games desensitising their young souls to the point where we see in America young people walking into schools as mass murderers.
There is no place for these games, no place for mma or ufc or anything else that make violence a pastime of so called civilised people.
Apply your minds and that of your children’s to things of beauty, peace and joy in the spirit. Junk all the violent stuff out of your lives and retrain your brain to things that are eternal. Rather than learn to fight well, learn to aid well. Apply all that time and energy into charity work etc. you’ll never need to defend yourselves in those circles but rather , watching a life change because someone cared is very rewarding.
One of my kids helped out in local charities as well as orphanages in Indonesia and he carries that same spirit of generosity all through his life.
I’ve taught my kids to see the good in everyone so they have no enemies and no one to fight. It’s easy to avoid the violent people when they turn up in life.
If you want the world to change you have to start with yourself. It ain’t easy to clean your soul but every day a bit at a time sweep out the junk stuff and bring in the new stuff.
I like the scripture “ don’t be conformed to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind”.
I think that says it all.
Optimist, for a start, there’s a huge difference between watching and enjoying UFC and training in martial arts.
And I think you’re profoundly misunderstanding, the nature of martial arts training.
As has been said by others above, one of the key goals and benefits of training is to have the confidence, self-control, and composure to deflect and reject physical conflict.
If you don’t understand this, then I’d suggest you’re starting from a place of considerable ignorance.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:old-dog wrote:Burls still wetting his bed over his anti vaxx cult version of the pandemic. Turns every thread into his own delusional vendetta against authority. Pretty sad unit.
100% correct…meanwhile the rest of the world has moved on.
Of course the Dill wants to move on. Gotta be one of your most embarrassing moments they way you carried on.
I will never move on from how we were treated, and I will continue to point out hypocrisy from dopey blokes like mikehunt and yourself.The laughs are writing themselves with you ladies
Gawd, you really are a Karen.
"The global rise in people watching and enjoying MMA and UFC type fighting plus others is a direct reflection of the state of the world spiritually......
Well there's much I could say in response to these few hundred words but I asked you to stay out of my conversations and after that yesterday you did so I'll only respond if invited. Maybe just point me the direction of the global spirituality index and it's relationship, maybe a Venn diagram or something, to the supposed rise in people watching fighting sports. Nothing fancy or too much detail, maybe just going back to Roman times. I'd like to do my own research into that.
Also, that Christian God of yours was known to like a bit of the old "ultra violence" himself back in the day, didn't he drown the whole of mankind except Noah and the animals at one stage? And that thing he did to himself/his sonself, you know the whole nailing to the cross, spearing in the side etc.
Maybe violence is cool as long as it comes with a spiritual message or is part of some whole lesson for mankind and sin forgiveness thing?
And impregnating a virgin, however that happened, was there violence involved? Did she consent at the time?
Pffft.
AndyM wrote:Optimist, for a start, there’s a huge difference between watching and enjoying UFC and training in martial arts.
And I think you’re profoundly misunderstanding, the nature of martial arts training.
As has been said by others above, one of the key goals and benefits of training is to have the confidence, self-control, and composure to deflect and reject physical conflict.
If you don’t understand this, then I’d suggest you’re starting from a place of considerable ignorance.
Finally i find something i agree with you on.
sypkan wrote:https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1736885405763445193
Listened to more from this amazing and brave women the other day, sadly she has had to flee the region for her own safety though.
I like the description " Islamist" that they use in differentiating the sane/moderate muslims from the insane more extreme muslims.
"In this very special Yasmine Mohammed Podcast, I will interview an incredibly brave woman named Dalia Ziada: Dalia is one of the most famous political analysts in the Arab world. She had to flee her country in fear for her life because she publicly told the truth about Hamas terrorists. In our conversation, she will explain why the Islamists are the enemy and why Europe and North America should be careful."
&t=74s waxy 24
Love all your posts but ONE freaked me out !
We share a sports hero or two ( Ali , Robo ) and I put Neil Daniher up there to for his after sport work .
War héros can start with Monash and Caesar .
Also the Conscious objector who Won the US Medal of Honour .
Doss never picked up a fn Gun and is now a Legend !
This THREAD is titled a PROBLEM Solving thread .
U show me it's NOT !
I am newish to Social Media .
Quite a checkered history dealing with it .
I see MOST of my posts have been a complete WASTE of my time .
On SN and social media , some people just aren't interested in learning .
They just DON'T listen ( read and think others views ) or want to learn .
What a waste of time .
Hey Pop. Hoping you are well this what? afternoon? i am on a different time schedule as crew and struggle with it.
Nah, Pop.. cool yer jets.
I present an… umbrella, if ya like.
All sit in it’s shade.
But!
Under that umbrella, there is still passion, there is still pursuit, there is still all.
I wanted to present a frame for the subjects we discuss because i am a people person, i love people, and i hate all the suffering and negativity. And one lends to the other and back.
I want to sever the chord or break the cycle. I dunno how to do it so i try and fail and (hopefully) learn.
But, how’s your day goin?
And, shoot, Pop, sometimes… i contribute to what i am against.
That is the Hard of it.
Flopti ….
- up early making shit up again ;)
Do u like this scripture ?
Exodus 20:13
‘You shall not murder.’
1 Samuel 15:3
‘ Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’
Hosea 13:16
‘ Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword; their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.’
Leviticus 20:13
‘ If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them’
Psalm 137:9
‘ Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!’
…gotta love some bible inspired infanticide ;);)
And from the Quran …
Surah - Al - Isra - 31
‘ Do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Surely killing them is a heinous sin’
I think that says it all.
…no matter how smart you are, you can always learn ;);)
U are a star .
Trying to work up the courage to test my Old body and go for a surf .
Bloody humid ( hate it ) and going to get wet .
Will go to PI and see if a lovely Magicland can Pop me Up on a few .
Will let the others get a few and go down , once the tide starts coming in , this afternoon .
My body needs a Major overhaul but fuck it .
I am going to take it for a spin ( waves are tiny ) and see what happens .
My Chiro gets back from hols tomorrow .
Please have FUN !
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If U don't know who Private Doss is , please , google his name .
Probably , the bravest person to run into battle , continuously , without a weapon , the World has ever seen .
They made a movie about him .
indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1736885405763445193
Listened to more from this amazing and brave women the other day, sadly she has had to flee the region for her own safety though.
I like the description " Islamist" that they use in differentiating the sane/moderate muslims from the insane more extreme muslims.
"In this very special Yasmine Mohammed Podcast, I will interview an incredibly brave woman named Dalia Ziada: Dalia is one of the most famous political analysts in the Arab world. She had to flee her country in fear for her life because she publicly told the truth about Hamas terrorists. In our conversation, she will explain why the Islamists are the enemy and why Europe and North America should be careful."
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Jesus, imagine if woman speaking up was a thing, the next thing they would want girls to get an education. If only those terrible females stuck to cooking and cleaning…Hamas can’t let Gaza chicks get above their low life level. Cook, breed and stfu.
It’s a good thing she has been chased out of her region.
Please take care, Pop, but enjoy!
@Optimist,
I was sitting out in the water a couple of hours ago, managed to score a nice little shorey bank, little 'secret' bank just down from where a hundred odd tourists were out, with just me and a few old boy locals in their 70's and still carrying on like grommets. I like it when I'm the youngest in the line up, doesn't happen much these days but I get a lot more waves than the usual trying to compete with a bunch of young guys as fit as Trevor Hendy and carrying on like they are in a heat in a comp.
Anyway, I was thinking about you and what @Wax 24 was saying about people's motivations for being here etc and realised I probably owe you an apology for my abrasiveness and wanted to say I do wish you well despite what a prick I am at times and was to you.
Had a few negative experiences over the years with religious types that left me a bit quick to draw on them, nothing to do with you. Always had a problem with the whole spiritual religiosity/claiming dominion over the animal kingdom when we are all animals, that come from the natural world and if spirits exist we've got no more right to claim the human spirit is any greater than that which must logically reside in every living creature. But we do.
And as for it's easy to avoid violence and violent people, well maybe for some and for a lot of the time yes that's true, but it hasn't always been the case for me and for many others that doesn't ring true.
People watching prizefighters to me is a human, not a spiritual phenomenon, fuck all to do with Gods, probably part of our animal instinct but who knows.
Anyway, sitting out in the water I was thinking the whole debate is a stupid argument and I'm a dumb fuck getting triggered.
As @wax23 was saying, these pages don't solve any problems, probably only create more.
So sorry for being a dick (again). Amazing what a few nice little waves does to my world view. I'll shut up with my thoughts about what you post, it's actually the message of peace on earth and goodwill to fellow man and all that, so good on you for that although you get a bit pissy yourself about it at times.
Keep referencing @Wax24 but it's lots more fun just telling jokes and stories and bullshittin' on together than solving the worlds problems anyway.
So ignore me and have a good one. Reckon you should go one day and watch a good prizefighter ply their trade in the ring, the Tzu boys come to mind there, some fresh exciting and talented young guys living out their family legacy. Both good upstanding honest boys headed for glory.
Anyway, peace.
Edit. Speaking of bullshittin' and telling stories I've got a few ripper @PopDown tales from the vault I'd love to tell all his new SN mates He told me I'm not allowed to talk TO him on SN, but he didn't say I couldn't talk ABOUT him. Anyway, he'd probably fkn kill me if I did. Maybe a bit of pressure from the boys might get me a permit.
haaha! Perfect @adam12 - Pop tales, please ; )
Feel like they'd sit somewhere between @groundswell & @Optimist origin stories!
Haha yes ;)
https://m.
&pp=ygUNZG8gaXQgc3RhcnNreQ%3D%3D Ahaha. old mate hasn't posted a threat at me yet and my phone hasn't rung so maybe I might be able to sneak a couple through before he cottons on to what I am up to, so for you @Jelly and @basesix here's a couple of milder one's from the vault.
Pop and his brother used to kidnap me.
I was still a teenager at the time. I went through school a year younger than all my classmates. My mum had had enough of me I think and talked the local primary school into taking me a year earlier than they were supposed to. So I started HSC when I was fifteen and was doing first year law at Uni when I was sixteen, where I first met Pop. His family had a house down on the Mornington Peninsula and it was only 45min to the open beaches from Uni so we used to surf down there a bit, Pop was a star footy player at Rye in those days.
Anyway, "we'll just go for a surf" they used to say. Three days later you'd still be there, no money, getting fed a diet of long neck VB's, bush bud bongs and fried eggs on bread, maybe a pie if you were lucky. There were never any banks holding the swell at Paradise or Snatches usually so you'd end up surfing the dog of a right at Tiber St. all the time (If you know, you'll know what I mean). I'd get home, finally, crook, constipated and in big trouble ("where the fuck have you been!").
So anyway, fast forward a few years and it's New Years Eve and all the boys are down there at Pop's place getting on it and gearing up for a big night at the Portsea Pub. You had to go early to get in and the boys are getting filled up to save money over the bar later ( a dumb strategy, Pops brother was especially fond of, he used to pick me up for a night out and have me sculling straight bourbon in the back of his Beetle, you'd arrive blind and be paralytic by midnight. I still have flashbacks of looking out over hundreds of people's shoes from my vantage point lying on the bar floor at various nightclubs around Melb).
Anyway, this night Pop comes up and asks me if he can borrow my car, he's got a hot date and he's meeting her early down there at the Portsea Pub. My gun metal green HQ sedan was the most valuable thing I owned at the time so I was hesitant but you know, mates, a hot date, etc. So I chucked him the keys and he said he'd meet us there and I could get my car back.
So the boys are all primed and we load in and head down the Nepean Hwy., it's still daylight and half way there our Greek mate says to me "Isn't that your car?" and sure enough here's Pop, barrelling back up the highway, hot date in the passenger seat, headin' north.
I didn't see him again that night. Got the car back the next day and eventually made it home.
I was living with my girlfriend at the time and she was away visiting family for the month and at some point I cleaned out my car, including a pair of white high heels and a bra I assumed belonged to my girlfriend which I just chucked on the bedroom floor and thought no more of it,
Sure enough, she gets back and it probably took a minute and I'm sitting on the couch and in she walks holding up these shoes and bra "Whose are THESE?!!!".
"Yours" I say
"No they're not"
You get the picture. Mayhem ensues.
I was dumbfounded. What the fuck is going on??? Took me a day to piece it all together and when I did she didn't believe me anyway. I may have even got Pop on the phone to try and tell her the truth, can't remember, but she never believed me and never trusted me after that and ended up cheating on me with some Pommy soccer player out here playing for a local team, and it all turned to shit.
I actually reconnected with her about ten years ago and tried to tell her I wasn't lying but she still doesn't believe it forty years later.
Anyway, that's a mild one, probably more about me than him.
Another quick one. Pop sketched out once reading his exam timetable and showed up to one of the most important exams of his life (Eco 301 I think) the day after it was on. Walked in, sat down, opened the paper and it was Engineering or something. "Yours was yesterday". Nightmare scenario. Fail and you're up for exclusion and years of study, and the career, down the drain. So Pop, who doesn't smoke ciggies, goes and chain smokes a whole pack, goes to a doctor and gets a medical exemption to sit it again. Lucky he did because he went on to make a lot of money with that degree and his Dutch mother would of had his balls off if she'd ever found out.
Anyway just a small taste from the Pop vault for the boys.
I'm going to turn off my phone now for the rest of the day and get off SN because I know what's coming.
Sorry Pop.
Adam
I am waiting for the tide to come in and leaving at 12.59 .
I did try to speak to your girlfriend and found her rude .
Not your type , at all , I thought .
The Exam wasn't Economics !
That was important .
It was some fn Human Geography Unit I needed for a double degree .
I did get the dates mixed up and did need a resit .
At the time of the Exam , I was in one of the Student dorms , studying for the exam with a student , really .
I thought that I good excuse , at the time , but thought a Medical Certificate would help .
So , enough of the old stories .
Or , remember the time U and I had two guests at my Grandmothers old place in Tottgarook ?
Or , my brothers 21st .
I think I had to put U in the First Aid station AND wake U to go for the dawn surf .
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Where U going out with that fn girlfriend WHEN U and I , met my friends that afternoon ?
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About 8 guys went surfing .
Only 5 guys could ge the wetties on and went out .
Only two got out the back .
We both caught one wave .
Neither of us could pop up ( stand ) .
It was a REALLY big party !
I got everyone to pitch in and we bought a new Mick Pearce thruster as a present .
My brother poured a whole bottle of Jim Beam over it as a christening .
Nearly , the biggest .
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I drank the fruit Punch I made .
It had Everything , alcoholic ! Especially Mescal ( the worm included ) .
Afterward I was told , a shit load of powder was added to it for extra oomph .
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The reason there was SO much alcohol was that both my brother and I worked at a Huge liquor distributor over the summer holidays ( 4 years ) .
We put in a really big order , which I paid for .
My brother grabbed the oder and Filled it out .
His numbers were a bit out .
My one , he read as a dozen , nearly .
Easy mistake .
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A whole Chep pallet of boxes was loaded into my car .
I want to hear more about the rude girlfriend.
AndyM wrote:I want to hear more about the rude girlfriend.
This. x 2
Adam had a MG last week, a Mercedes this week, he’s made tons of money (because he told us) and now a rude girlfriend?
Next week Adam will have a supermodel.
Really good looking was her only attraction imho
Impossible for me to reason with .
I told her and she hung up , very rude imho .
Even Adam wouldn't chuck shoes and a bra for a fn girlfriend to find ffs .
U must have missed the knickers , Ad .
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I can't remember much about ANY NYE's .
The girl must have not wanted to be seen with me @ the Portsea Pub .
Maybe her boyfriend was there ?
I have NFI why clothing was left in the car !!!
No explanation .
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I did , probably , try and help remove said items .
Need a thread purely for Pop and Adam! :)
Good reading gentlemen.
Hang on, you told her that being good-looking was her only attraction, and that she was impossible to reason with, she hung up on you, and now you think she’s rude?
Keep going pops tell me more.
She sounds totally unhinged and irrational.
Roadkill wrote:Adam had a MG last week, a Mercedes this week, he’s made tons of money (because he told us) and now a rude girlfriend?
Next week Adam will have a supermodel.
@Roady U fkn dick. If you go back and check you will find I said "MB" not "MG" fucktard. I wouldn't piss on an MG. I'm a mercedes guy. Had five of them at one stage. Got two left now.
And as for 'supermodels' Goose, don't worry your little pea brain too much, had plenty of those too, believe what you want. Some of us have lived long and eventful lives before we ended up here.
You should probably try to do the same.
adam12 wrote:Roadkill wrote:Adam had a MG last week, a Mercedes this week, he’s made tons of money (because he told us) and now a rude girlfriend?
Next week Adam will have a supermodel.
@Roady U fkn dick. If you go back and check you will find I said "MB" not "MG" fucktard. I wouldn't piss on an MG. I'm a mercedes guy. Had five of them at one stage. Got two left now.
And as for 'supermodels' Goose, don't worry your little pea brain too much, had plenty of those too, believe what you want. Some of us have lived long and eventful lives before we ended up here.
You should probably try to do the same.
You kind of come across as an MG guy tho.
MG guys get triggered easily…they tend to be offended by everything and love to talk themselves up.… just like you.
adamMG has a nice ring to it. :)
AndyM wrote:Hang on, you told her that being good-looking was her only attraction, and that she was impossible to reason with, she hung up on you, and now you think she’s rude?
Keep going pops tell me more.
She sounds totally unhinged and irrational.
Andy, she wasn't just good looking, she was fkn beautiful, but yeah, she was a feisty one. I seemed to end up with a few of those types back in those days. I knew I remembered something about her arguing with Pop on the phone about it. It was forty years ago so it's all vague now, can't really blame her in the circumstances. In the end I think my only defence was "Do you think I'm that stupid?" and I guess her answer was "Yes". She was actually one of my mum's favorites and I was shocked to learn many years later that they had kept in touch over the phone over the years.
@Pop, I won't tell anymore Pop stories here. Promise. We've taken over this thread by the look of it, not fair really. Yes I remember that day and those two girls, vaguely in the fog. I got lucky and you didn't is my memory of it. Yours was a little curly blond Toorak Jewish princess if I recall, maybe you are talking about another adventure because I don't remember being at Tootgarook with those two. I do remember a similar scenario with a couple of girls down there but I thought I was with your brother that day not you. So many memories lost in the fog. I was high on bushweed and putty black hash a lot in those days, as you well know, so it's all just a vague amalgam to me now.
Good to hear you at least got in the water. I'm off to hunt my old local for a few scraps while it's still northerly myself right now. Check ya.
Roadkill wrote:MG guys get triggered easily…they tend to be offended by everything and love to talk themselves up.… just like you.
adamMG has a nice ring to it. :)
Oh touche Goose. Keep it up. At least I've got something to talk about.
Come up with a better nickname though. That one doesn't sting a bit.
Appreciated your post Adam 12. Sometimes I think way too deep even for myself , but as this thread is about problem solving war etc perhaps it’s time for the world to ditch anything to do with shooting , punching , hitting or generally crapping on another human being even for fun.
Putting the kids killing games in the bin. Learning from people like Jesus etc about how to treat people. Telling the politicians to go themselves overseas and shoot people if they want it done.
The kids are told everyday their planet is stuffed but nobody is planting trees which will fix the problem as we also advance in renewables. Imagine how the kids feel.
The yanks have two corrupt idiots to vote for. Yay USA.
With all our land space the govt in Australia can’t supply land just so people can have a house to live in cheap. The building code gets harder every year as well.
The solutions are simple but the will is weak so I get frustrated and try and share thoughts and instead of discussion with fellow surfers I get abused on here because I have a different belief system to the mainstream global suicide squad.
I can see it as clear as the sunrise but unless you see things through spiritual eyes as well as physical you will be blind to what’s really going on.
Everything you think you know is only half of it. There’s so much more happening in the unseen world. If you want peace pursue it, even if everyone calls you an idiot
There is an age approaching where there will be no war, no mma, no martial arts, no killing games , no weapons, no filthy corrupt war pig leaders, no women abusing porn, no covetous people and for 1000 years the earth will rest but an era of great tribulation will come first.
Optimist wrote:Interesting that Jelly posts similar cartoon drawings of Jewish people that the nazis used….pretty much sums up his character.
And what do they occupy ??? A country that takes a few hours to drive through???
And borders that keep the bad guys out of their country???
But the Islamists don’t get to own it and they hate that.
Go get ‘em Israel, and do whatever it takes to get the Palestinians to fight Hamas themselves and get their own crappy run country in order.
On both sides where there is no guts ….there is no glory.
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