2022 Election
You wash your mouth out Supa.
@ Andy
I hope your right id be over the moon if LNP and Scomo got re-elected just like many didn't like Howard but kept voting him back in because of his economical success, we should be doing the same for Scomo, especially after getting us through a once in one hundred year pandemic, IMHO Scomo is the best leader since Howard (already the longest serving since Howard)
But sadly i think its extremely unlikely, the media isn't bating for LNP or Scomo they have been hammering Scomo on anything and everything and the positives are rarely focused on, i think thats just a product of the media landscape these days though bad news sells, good news doesn't and governments in power generally get hammer more than the opposition..
And the idea Palmer will benefit LNP is misguided, it's not the same as last election, last election he wanted LNP back in, this election he is in it purely for himself and where do you think most of the vote's he steals are going to come from Labor or LNP voters???
He might preference LNP before Labor but even then it doesn't mean people will follow his preference suggestions.
Like i said yesterday, im trying to be optimistic and see any result as a win, if LNP get re elected im much more confident of our future both economically and socially but with the end of a prosperous cycle happening even with the advantage of LNP's better economic managers we are likely to still see interest rates rises to some degree, debt isn't likely to go down and issues around things like energy security as we transition to renewables is going become more of a thing, housing affordability isn't going to change even if interest rates go up, so even if they get re-elected it could be very hard to hold on after that.
If Labor get in the RBA are going to have more pressure on them to lift interest rates due to unions pushing up wage growth too fast that's a guarantee this is going to confirm what many think that Labor=higher interest rates, and they are more likely to increase debit rather than reduce it, and they will still have the issues around energy security, actually its going to be harder for them because people will expect to move away from coal quicker and they will criticise them if they push gas peaking plants(we already have over 50 and even experts on ABC podcast i listened to the other day agree they will play a part until at least 2050) and they wont have any solutions to housing affordability. (cause there is no real easy solutions) unless you flood the market with land which isn't going to happen and building cost have also gone way up and aren't going back down.
So if Labor get in they are going to be screwed longer term anyway, off course they will blame LNP for everything, but only rusted on Labor voters will buy that and people will get suck of the blame game and lack of responsibility.
So long term i actually think its better for LNP to lose this election and keep their good record intact and just reload for the next election and mop up Labors mess, but it's still hard not to be emotionally invested in wanting to see LNP win and it would be absolute gold seeing Labor loose two un-lossable elections in a row.
Albo announces he would like to emulate Annastacia Palaszczuk on a federal level as he admires her work so much………shit!!!!!
I’m having trouble understanding why , if the Scott Morrison Party is so good and people have never had it so good , that its an un- lose - able election for labor.
Indo ya flamin nong, does this look like "people have never had it so good"?
Between the LNP neoliberal shitfuckery, the billions given to LNP mates and the fact that Scomo is a total cunt, it's not surprising that this election should be unlosable for Labor
"People have never had it so good"
NOT MY WORDS (Supafreaks words)
And not even close to anything I've said, if you need to make up bullshit quotes trying to put words in others mouths then you obviously have pretty weak arguments.
BTW. Home ownership is falling all around the world and will continue to fall, the only real way you can overcome this is by releasing more land than is needed, which isn't going to happen and reducing building cost including deregulation which isn't going to happen and is only getting worse.
@ Supa, ive explained it many times before but your never going to get it, it was pretty clear with you obsession with Ivermectin last year that once you get something in your head it's stuck and you thoughts wont change no matter how much logic and reason is given, despite every study showing Ivermectin to have very little to possibly no positive effect with Covid you still banged on about it every day for a year thinking it was some miracle Covid drug that was being suppressed or something.
indo-dreaming wrote:"People have never had it so good"
Not my words (Supafreaks words) and not even close to anything I've said, if you need to make up bullshit quotes trying to put words in others mouths then you obviously have pretty weak arguments.
BTW. Home ownership is falling all around the world and will continue to fall, the only real way you can overcome this is by releasing more land than is needed, which isn't going to happen and reducing building cost including deregulation which isn't going to happen and is only getting worse.
@ Supa, ive explained it many times before but your never going to get it, it was pretty clear with you obsession with Ivermectin last year that once you get something in your head it's stuck and you thoughts wont change no matter how much logic and reason is given, despite every study showing Ivermectin to have very little to possibly no positive effect with Covid you still banged on about it every day for a year thinking it was some miracle Covid drug that was being suppressed or something.
Never said they were your words indo , your not the only person that has commented on here . As far as ivermectin goes indo , trials are continuing even as some trials say that its no good other trials start. Even our own government allows trials to continue for combination therapy of ivermectin . The latest is the door has closed on ivermectin but stayed open for combination which is what Drs have always said. You fail to recognise the country’s around the world which currently freely allow doctors to prescribe ivermectin off label, countries like the US and Japan.
Andy suggested they were my words.
Old joke.... "How do you know when a politican is lying ?"
I think the way ivermectin was beat up by media as a non human drug sucked when the reality is its widely used by humans, but it doesn't matter how many trials you have for ivermectin its clear that it doesn't work for Covid or if it does its so minimal that its not going to be worth using.
People like Joe Rogan were on a number of treatments including Monoclonal antibodies that have been proven effective against the Wuhan and Delta strains but far less effective against Omicron strains
@indo , from what you have explained before why LNP will lose , even after the incredible job they have done for the last decade, you must have the view that the majority of Australians are stupid. Why else would people vote out a government that was performing so well ? You would have to be stupid wouldn’t you ? Did you ever work out what was going on in the graph I put up ? Still waiting for your views on robo debt .
Supafreak wrote:@indo , from what you have explained before why LNP will lose , even after the incredible job they have done for the last decade, you must have the view that the majority of Australians are stupid. Why else would people vote out a government that was performing so well ? You would have to be stupid wouldn’t you ?
Most people vote for pretty silly reasons like:
-My parents voted lib/lab so i vote libs/lab
-My parents vote one way, so i will vote the other way
- Ive always voted lib/lab
- Vote for a party like the Greens like i did when i was young thinking they are this or that without really understanding the deeper ideologies of the party.
- Based purely on if they like the person running or not.
-Vote based on how friends and family vote
- Vote based on a stereotype like many tradies still believe Labor are for blue collar workers, which once was true, but is in no way true anymore.
- I mean fk there is people that vote based on how bands etc they like vote or lean people are seriously like sheep.
There is a very small amount of people that vote based on good reasons like understanding what the parties stand for or policies or vote on things like the economy, how many times do you hear people say the two majors are just the same etc
So yes sadly most people do very little research on what parties stand for or policy and think very little on why they vote for a party and sadly most people don't look at how a party has managed the economy past or present and are easily mislead by negative media slants or click bait stories, or vote based on one issue.
BTW. Again cycles have a lot to do with things too, the longer a government is in power the harder it gets to hold power and the more the grass starts to look greener and the more critical the media are of you too.
Anyway like i said before i think this election is a win win for LNP whatever happens and a lose lose for labor whatever happens.
Libs win-Labor lose= Libs get another 4 years but will have more hard times ahead and most likely get voted out the following election, for Labor losing two unlossable elections in a row will be devastating.
Libs lose- Labor win= Labor get stuck with the bad stage of a cycle and will forever be linked with rising interest rates and will be booted out after two terms max, maybe even only one if they really drop the ball. (highly likely)
Libs lose, but in the long term they will benefit and keep their record intact.
Yes you have explained this many times , so basically the majority of Australians are stupid ? Ok moving on , robo debt or the graph I put up
Robo debt in theory was a good idea, just like the Covid app, it's basically just using technology to do things and in the future technology will be successfully used in similar ways, but clearly at the moment there is still hurdles to overcome.
Indo you’re a one-eyed LNP fanboy.
I’ve given you three real good reasons why the LNP are totally on the nose.
Ok now to the graph , what do you see ?
indo-dreaming wrote:Robo debt in theory was a good idea, just like the Covid app, it's basically just using technology to do things and in the future technology will be successfully used in similar ways, but clearly at the moment there is still hurdles to overcome.
Hurdles like the government’s incompetence, inhumanity and corruption.
indo-dreaming wrote:Robo debt in theory was a good idea, just like the Covid app, it's basically just using technology to do things and in the future technology will be successfully used in similar ways, but clearly at the moment there is still hurdles to overcome.
Ok I'll bite. Robodebt good idea?. Tell that to families that had members commit suicide!
Royal commission needed there if Labor win....
A promise from albo is that if labor wins , then one of the first things he will initiate is a royal commission into robo debt.
AndyM wrote:You wash your mouth out Supa.
Hahaha , I’ve just clicked on , was confused by this , deepest apologies andy m I should have written andy mac when referring to LNP would win .
AndyM wrote:Hurdles like the government’s incompetence, inhumanity and corruption.
Nothing incompetent about their execution of robodebt. Worked exactly as intended. I truly hope they see prison over it.
Supafreak wrote:AndyM wrote:You wash your mouth out Supa.
Hahaha , I’ve just clicked on , was confused by this , deepest apologies andy m I should have written andy mac when referring to LNP would win .
For record I hope I am totally wrong!!! Want to see some of those corrupt LNP spivs in front of a judge. Will make Obeid look honest!
andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:AndyM wrote:You wash your mouth out Supa.
Hahaha , I’ve just clicked on , was confused by this , deepest apologies andy m I should have written andy mac when referring to LNP would win .
For record I hope I am totally wrong!!! Want to see some of those corrupt LNP spivs in front of a judge. Will make Obeid look honest!
Yeah I understand where your heart is andy mac and after the last election I fully understand why you have concerns this time around, it was just interesting to see two opposing parties believing the other would win .
Supafreak wrote:
@indo , look where the red line is in 2019 then compare it with 2022 . The 4% unemployment looks impressive until you see that more people are now receiving unemployment benefits than what were receiving them before the pandemic. Just something the Scott Morrison Party fails to mention when telling us “ how good is Scott Morrison “
Indo believes he is part of a small minority that votes for good reasons !
Stop it mate, you're cracking me up.
https://m.
Reckon Albo could go alright if given the chance... ;)
indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:
Outline the LNP economic plan then. Tell us what your party is going to do, if they’re going to do anything at all. Because Frydenbergs plan is another short term sugar hit with no long term plan.
So again please address which part of the economy the LNP are going to addressWe were recession free for 27+ years the majority of this time has been under LNP, we have just gone through a one in one hundred year event that was forecast to see us in a deep dark recession, but we have come through things with a fairly health economy, record low unemployment and high rate of available jobs, not to mention very low Covid death rate compared to most of the world.
The proof is in the pudding, you can vote for the proven government who has gotten results or you can flip a coin on some inexperienced woke marxist, just for the hell of it.
Good luck with that one.
That’s what you are crediting them for, I asked what’s their plan. Have a look at the budget. Tell us what their plan is for economic development, further jobs growth, expanding manufacturing, transitioning workers, towns and power grids away from fossil fuels, health care, education housing affordability what’s the fucking plan for the future mate. Not what you are crediting them for the past.
Your interest rate hike is coming mate, an economic downturn is on the way. Young families struggle to afford rent let alone save for a house. Under employment, wage theft and rorts( labour hire) are nuts. And like you said mate Labour has pretty much had nothing to do with it.
Cmon Indo what’s the plan. Shorten at least had a plan for the future and stood by it. What’s Scotty got?
soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:
Outline the LNP economic plan then. Tell us what your party is going to do, if they’re going to do anything at all. Because Frydenbergs plan is another short term sugar hit with no long term plan.
So again please address which part of the economy the LNP are going to addressWe were recession free for 27+ years the majority of this time has been under LNP, we have just gone through a one in one hundred year event that was forecast to see us in a deep dark recession, but we have come through things with a fairly health economy, record low unemployment and high rate of available jobs, not to mention very low Covid death rate compared to most of the world.
The proof is in the pudding, you can vote for the proven government who has gotten results or you can flip a coin on some inexperienced woke marxist, just for the hell of it.
Good luck with that one.
That’s what you are crediting them for, I asked what’s their plan. Have a look at the budget. Tell us what their plan is for economic development, further jobs growth, expanding manufacturing, transitioning workers, towns and power grids away from fossil fuels, health care, education housing affordability what’s the fucking plan for the future mate. Not what you are crediting them for the past.
Your interest rate hike is coming mate, an economic downturn is on the way. Young families struggle to afford rent let alone save for a house. Under employment, wage theft and rorts( labour hire) are nuts. And like you said mate Labour has pretty much had nothing to do with it.
Cmon Indo what’s the plan. Shorten at least had a plan for the future and stood by it. What’s Scotty got?
The plans there if you actually want to listen and learn, you are tripping if you think Labor can or would do a better job. especially Shorten he would have destroyed the economy by now, Australia would not be in the position we are after Covid, we would likely be in a recession right now under Labor,
As if Labor are going to expand manufacturing, your completely tripping you think Australia gets more competitive when unions push up wages more than needed and faster than needed, Australia already has the highest min wage in the world and not by a small margin Luxembourg is the next country almost $1USD lower.
You obviously don't understand how wage push inflation puts more pressure on the RBA to lift interest rates, hence why interest rates will rise higher and faster under Labor
Reality is LNP have the experience and record of managing the economy labor DONT.
Labor also dont have a realistic plan in dealing with the transition to a carbon free economy, even experts on a recent ABC podcast i listened too about the topic last week agree gas will play an important part in the transition and predicted to be be used until about 2050 generally in the form of small peaking plats of which Australia already has about 50. (especially as we dont have the answer to the two to three weeks energy security needed to support wind and solar, not just me saying this, they said exactly the same thing)
BTW. You vote Labor yet you spelt it wrong, Labor are so un Australian they spell Labour with USA spelling Labor.
BTW. Some good news this morning
Scomo ahead now in preferred PM news poll
Scomo=44%
Albo= 39%
I think the plan is to just keep doing what’s happening now. I don’t know anyone who isn’t flat out with work and making good money. Tons of jobs if you want one. There are issues to address for sure , like housing for the lower to middle income people, better pay for nurses and aged care staff. Every party has things they can do much better but the economies on fire so why risk quenching it as only lower taxes and lots of them from workers and business will solve the debts from the disaster of the last few years. Some but not all Labor Govts in the past have pretty much made me want to forget working full time and just surf a lot as the tax rates were off the charts. I don’t think higher taxes are a good idea just now as everyone is crawling out of the pandemic hole…..but Labor will do some good things, the question however is will everyone be better off….I can’t see it as it really looks like amateur hour every time Albo opens his mouth….the “ I want to be like Annastasia “ statement sealed the deal for me and probably for everyone in the Tweed to southern Gold Coast as well.
Optimist wrote:I think the plan is to just keep doing what’s happening now. I don’t know anyone who isn’t flat out with work and making good money. Tons of jobs if you want one. There are issues to address for sure , like housing for the lower to middle income people, better pay for nurses and aged care staff. Every party has things they can do much better but the economies on fire so why risk quenching it as only lower taxes and lots of them from workers and business will solve the debts from the disaster of the last few years. Some but not all Labor Govts in the past have pretty much made me want to forget working full time and just surf a lot as the tax rates were off the charts. I don’t think higher taxes are a good idea just now as everyone is crawling out of the pandemic hole…..but Labor will do some good things, the question however is will everyone be better off….I can’t see it as it really looks like amateur hour every time Albo opens his mouth….the “ I want to be like Annastasia “ statement sealed the deal for me and probably for everyone in the Tweed to southern Gold Coast as well.
100% you build on the current success and tinker things where needed, rather than radical change that completely throw's the balance out and create's more issues than it solves.
The scary thing is, there are people out there that believe in fairy tales and think Labor can magically fix things like housing affordability, not going to happen.
Fortunately ID, your comments are permenant in this thread. It's going to be interesting to read them in a few years time.
Totally appreciate that everyone's got their own POV, but you seem to be on a mindless anti-Labor tirade, no matter the subject matter. I mean, comments like:
indo-dreaming wrote:you are tripping if you think Labor can or would do a better job. especially Shorten he would have destroyed the economy by now, Australia would not be in the position we are after Covid, we would likely be in a recession right now under Labor
How do you know this?
As for the Liberals, to what levels would they have to stoop in order for you to admit that they have done anything wrong? Your common refrain seems to be:
indo-dreaming wrote:our levels of corruption are very low and what people even call corruption is questionable
If Labor gets in power, I wonder if you'll change your tune if/when a government scandal pops up (as it inevitably will).
Indo & optimist, there’s some easy money to be made, sports bet are practically giving it away, get on the COALition now. 
But please gamble responsibly
thermalben wrote:Fortunately ID, your comments are permenant in this thread. It's going to be interesting to read them in a few years time.
Totally appreciate that everyone's got their own POV, but you seem to be on a mindless anti-Labor tirade, no matter the subject matter. I mean, comments like:
indo-dreaming wrote:you are tripping if you think Labor can or would do a better job. especially Shorten he would have destroyed the economy by now, Australia would not be in the position we are after Covid, we would likely be in a recession right now under Labor
How do you know this?
As for the Liberals, to what levels would they have to stoop in order for you to admit that they have done anything wrong? Your common refrain seems to be:
indo-dreaming wrote:our levels of corruption are very low and what people even call corruption is questionable
If Labor gets in power, I wonder if you'll change your tune if/when a government scandal pops up (as it inevitably will).
And on the flip side this thread is full of anti LNP anti Scomo tirade's, that go totally against reailty and are completely opinion based backed up by nothing even when evidence suggests something very different, it's no different.
But yes the thread will be interesting to look back on, just like if you dig up old threads predicting how LNP were going to mess up things and Covid send us into a deep dark recession or even the so called experts that predicted the realestate market to collapse, don't look exactly that good now.
And yes off course i will complain about FK ups Labor make, just like i complain about Dan Andrews FK ups, but if the economy is healthy i wont be able to complain about that and that it always going to be the most important thing to me.
This article is relevant to the conversation. One of the biggest and most vocal criticisms by some of Labor is their lack of economic credentials and their rate of borrowing.
How is it that after 25 plus years of 'growth', the government still has to borrow to such a high degree. A good economic manager would have fixed the structural deficits in the economy that means that we are continually borrowing to keep the economy ticking along.
No one seems to mention the high rate of LNP borrowing in the "good times"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/fact-check-budget-debt-coronaviru...
There's actually some nice graphs in the article, even in colour, and we all know that the graphs don't lie.
indo-dreaming wrote:BTW. Some good news this morning
Scomo ahead now in preferred PM news poll
Scomo=44%
Albo= 39%
No surprise…the SN lefties don’t really understand the electorate.
Fliplid wrote:This article is relevant to the conversation. One of the biggest and most vocal criticisms by some of Labor is their lack of economic credentials and their rate of borrowing.
How is it that after 25 plus years of 'growth', the government still has to borrow to such a high degree. A good economic manager would have fixed the structural deficits in the economy that means that we are continually borrowing to keep the economy ticking along.
No one seems to mention the high rate of LNP borrowing in the "good times"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/fact-check-budget-debt-coronaviru...
There's actually some nice graphs in the article, even in colour, and we all know that the graphs don't lie.
Interest rates have been at historical lows, which off course equals a good time to borrow not to mention the way debt is viewed is changing the extreme view being MMT.
This trend and way we view debt differently will continue under LNP or Labor.
As we all know what is really important is debt to GDP and If you compare us to the rest of the world there is about 120 countries ahead of us with a higher debt to GDP ratio.
We are at 41% for perspective here is a few relevant countries Japan tops the list.
Japan=247%
Singapore=109%
USA= 106%
Canada=88%
UK=85%
Most European countries are above us and only a few below us as is NZ.
So it's not like we are being reckless in our approach, we are taking a conservative middle ground approach.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-national-debt
indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:
Outline the LNP economic plan then. Tell us what your party is going to do, if they’re going to do anything at all. Because Frydenbergs plan is another short term sugar hit with no long term plan.
So again please address which part of the economy the LNP are going to addressWe were recession free for 27+ years the majority of this time has been under LNP, we have just gone through a one in one hundred year event that was forecast to see us in a deep dark recession, but we have come through things with a fairly health economy, record low unemployment and high rate of available jobs, not to mention very low Covid death rate compared to most of the world.
The proof is in the pudding, you can vote for the proven government who has gotten results or you can flip a coin on some inexperienced woke marxist, just for the hell of it.
Good luck with that one.
That’s what you are crediting them for, I asked what’s their plan. Have a look at the budget. Tell us what their plan is for economic development, further jobs growth, expanding manufacturing, transitioning workers, towns and power grids away from fossil fuels, health care, education housing affordability what’s the fucking plan for the future mate. Not what you are crediting them for the past.
Your interest rate hike is coming mate, an economic downturn is on the way. Young families struggle to afford rent let alone save for a house. Under employment, wage theft and rorts( labour hire) are nuts. And like you said mate Labour has pretty much had nothing to do with it.
Cmon Indo what’s the plan. Shorten at least had a plan for the future and stood by it. What’s Scotty got?
The plans there if you actually want to listen and learn, you are tripping if you think Labor can or would do a better job. especially Shorten he would have destroyed the economy by now, Australia would not be in the position we are after Covid, we would likely be in a recession right now under Labor,
As if Labor are going to expand manufacturing, your completely tripping you think Australia gets more competitive when unions push up wages more than needed and faster than needed, Australia already has the highest min wage in the world and not by a small margin Luxembourg is the next country almost $1USD lower.
You obviously don't understand how wage push inflation puts more pressure on the RBA to lift interest rates, hence why interest rates will rise higher and faster under Labor
Reality is LNP have the experience and record of managing the economy labor DONT.
Labor also dont have a realistic plan in dealing with the transition to a carbon free economy, even experts on a recent ABC podcast i listened too about the topic last week agree gas will play an important part in the transition and predicted to be be used until about 2050 generally in the form of small peaking plats of which Australia already has about 50. (especially as we dont have the answer to the two to three weeks energy security needed to support wind and solar, not just me saying this, they said exactly the same thing)
BTW. You vote Labor yet you spelt it wrong, Labor are so un Australian they spell Labour with USA spelling Labor.
I don’t want to know what you think may have happened under shorten. I wanted to know what the LNP’s plan is. I guess you nailed it though as thier plans is “we’ve got fuck all, but hey how much does labour suck.’ Good plan
If you want to live in the past compare the Rudd/Gillard years. At least they achieved something.
I listen to the same podcast, I also know how far the LNP under the influence of the IPA has squandered opportunities and wrecked working world class legislation on climate change mitigation (labour policy under Gillard put together with Malcolm Turnbull and Penny Wong). Howard flip flopped, Abbot wrecked and Scotty does cosplay.
So seems once again there’s a lot of holes in your defence of Scotty and the boys, “best prime minister since Howard”. Delusional
The biggest myth in this story is that Karl grilled slomo over this . https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/exlover-of-liberal-frontben...
indo-dreaming wrote:And on the flip side this thread is full of anti LNP anti Scomo tirade's, that go totally against reailty and are completely opinion based backed up by nothing even when evidence suggests something very different, it's no different.
The reason there are a wide range of LNP comments is because they are in power, and are thus answerable to a whole host of issues.
As for LNP comments being "totally against reailty and completely opinion based backed up by nothing", well, I completely disagree.
Supafreak wrote:The biggest myth in this story is that Karl grilled slomo over this . https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/exlover-of-liberal-frontben...
Oh the shitfuckery... Haha.
No need to look at these trivial matters, the economy is very strong ( on borrowed money , we don’t have to pay back, … do we ? ) after all houses are booming, just look at the prices . 
Supafreak wrote:No need to look at these trivial matters, the economy is very strong ( on borrowed money , we don’t have to pay back, … do we ? ) after all houses are booming, just look at the prices .
And that is only what we are aware of.
Ha ha just heard on ABC radio Albo admitting he doesn't know what the unemployment rate currently is, total gold and says it all.
@batfink and @soggydog ask what are the LNP's policies. Good question; I've often wondered myself what are their big nation building reforming ideas - this election, the last, the one before that and possibly the last 2 elections Howard was PM.
Apart from Abbott who went to an election promising to repeal carbon pricing and cut red tape I can't remember any actual polices (you know to do something nation building) the LNP has taken to recent elections. Sure we hear lots about lower taxes, jobs and growth but its all motherhood statements no meat on the bones stuff.
Sure Australia has had it good with year on year growth but just how much has the country's deficit grown since the Abbott Gov't so contrary to the urban myth about the LNP are the better economic managers Australia's growth has been solely funded on the back of increasing deficits and borrowed money .... and in the total absence of any and all structural reform that would grow the economy, profits taxation receipts and wages.
LNP policies? We know from Morrison's tenure as PM he has a hands off approach preferring the market or the States to react to problems as they arise. Morrison has reacted after the event not at all in a proactive way. Small government and a hands off approach to national governance with no reform agenda isn't unique to Morrison however look also to Turnbull's and Abbott's record. Turnbull tried but got cut down and what positive policies did Abbott proffer? None that I can recall.
So the last decade of LNP govts have been ideological driven - small, low taxes, hands off and no big policy reform agenda (but funded by ever increasing deficits).
Why no reform? Reform entails winners and losers and the reform Australia desperately needs to address the structural deficit would cost the LNP votes the most so its easy to occupy the govt benches and do nothing .... but by doing nothing in govt you are buying more time for existing inequities, the status quo to become even more entrenched. Do nothing in govt job done, who needs polices when the voters buy motherhood statements.
indo-dreaming wrote:Ha ha just heard on ABC radio Albo admitting he doesn't know what the unemployment rate currently is, total gold and says it all.
What’s the current rate of people receiving unemployment benefits ? Is it 4% ? And while we’re there , what’s the current rate of people living under the poverty line ? No doubt it will give you a laugh indo
indo-dreaming wrote:Ha ha just heard on ABC radio Albo admitting he doesn't know what the unemployment rate currently is, total gold and says it all.
It's gonna be a terrible five weeks.
stunet wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Ha ha just heard on ABC radio Albo admitting he doesn't know what the unemployment rate currently is, total gold and says it all.
It's gonna be a terrible five weeks.
Murdoch and Costello have their headline for the week.... ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
Of course, not off course.
Sorry I'm not one of those people generally but its fkn doing my head in when its in every comment
Supafreak wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Ha ha just heard on ABC radio Albo admitting he doesn't know what the unemployment rate currently is, total gold and says it all.
What’s the current rate of people receiving unemployment benefits ? Is it 4% ? And while we’re there , what’s the current rate of people living under the poverty line ? No doubt it will give you a laugh indo
Indo loves that sort of stuff because there's only lifters and leaners, right?
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