2022 Election
The guy that crashed Morrison’s private gathering works for the Labor party….trying to make a name for himself I suppose …and he has…..dickhead.
Optimist wrote:The guy that crashed Morrison’s private gathering works for the Labor party….trying to make a name for himself I suppose …and he has…..dickhead.
Maybe a dickhead, true.
But if you cannot see problem with journalists who are meant to be holding the government to account having nice social drinks together at private function, then I've got nothing else to add. BTW same would apply for any party, Labor should not be doing it as well.
Optimist wrote:The guy that crashed Morrison’s private gathering works for the Labor party….trying to make a name for himself I suppose …and he has…..dickhead.
what a clown...all parties do it more now. everything is a sound grab or a gotcha
The PM hosting drinks for only the press you say, maybe the gatecrasher got in this way ...
https://m.
The Greens announce a $7.5 billion dollar policy to expand Medicare to cover dental for all. Under the Gillard government the greens negotiated to include child dental on Medicare. Fully costed policy will be covered by a 6% tax on billionaires and a corporate super profits tax.
Not sure what the LNP or Labor has in comparison.
soggydog wrote:The Greens announce a $7.5 billion dollar policy to expand Medicare to cover dental for all. Under the Gillard government the greens negotiated to include child dental on Medicare. Fully costed policy will be covered by a 6% tax on billionaires and a corporate super profits tax.
Not sure what the LNP or Labor has in comparison.
The short answer is nothing officially. I've gone through all the policies in a fair bit of detail and to be honest, there is not much separating the 2. I actually don't care who wins, they're both keen on defending the status quo.
On dental, children have up to a $1026 over 2 years. $1k is really nothing. The system is overpriced and overrated, I travel overseas when I need stuff done.
And there lies the problem….dentists have delusions of grandeur and charge whatever they like but…..perhaps the idea would be to train young dentists for free if they sign up to serve for 5 years on qualifying under a decent wage for them Medicare plan….that way Medicare could afford the program and the whole thing would work.
flollo wrote:soggydog wrote:The Greens announce a $7.5 billion dollar policy to expand Medicare to cover dental for all. Under the Gillard government the greens negotiated to include child dental on Medicare. Fully costed policy will be covered by a 6% tax on billionaires and a corporate super profits tax.
Not sure what the LNP or Labor has in comparison.
The short answer is nothing officially. I've gone through all the policies in a fair bit of detail and to be honest, there is not much separating the 2. I actually don't care who wins, they're both keen on defending the status quo.
On dental, children have up to a $1026 over 2 years. $1k is really nothing. The system is overpriced and overrated, I travel overseas when I need stuff done.
Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m getting at. The Greens at least have a costed policy designed to benefit all Australians.
They have an energy transition policy that includes retraining existing fossil fuel workers. Again people will be able to pick holes, legitimate and illegitimate, in it. But at least they are thinking about the future beyond the election.
soggydog wrote:The Greens announce a $7.5 billion dollar policy to expand Medicare to cover dental for all. Under the Gillard government the greens negotiated to include child dental on Medicare. Fully costed policy will be covered by a 6% tax on billionaires and a corporate super profits tax.
Not sure what the LNP or Labor has in comparison.
Usually try to stay out of the politico threads but this caught my eye.
Dentistry is a sham in Australia. My partner has a couple of major procedures coming up on her teeth and it is looking like it will cost us somewhere in the order of $50K. That's our entire 5 years of post-uni savings -gone-. She had private health insurance with major dental which covers about $2k of the bill, it's disgusting.
At least her and I hold down good paying jobs so we can afford it without taking out a loan. The average Aussie would be fucked, no two ways about it. Still it's disheartening to see the idea of even owning a basic apartment slipping further from our grasp.
We give the seppos a lot of shit for their healthcare system (rightfully so) but a friend of mine over there now recently had major dental and paid all of a $700 excess, and that was that. Here there is no amount of private health insurance you can buy to cover you. Less well off Australians will either be up their eyeballs in debt or otherwise deal with having a disfigured face. Go figure.
Optimist wrote:And there lies the problem….dentists have delusions of grandeur and charge whatever they like but…..perhaps the idea would be to train young dentists for free if they sign up to serve for 5 years on qualifying under a decent wage for them Medicare plan….that way Medicare could afford the program and the whole thing would work.
That’s a good idea. Could also work with nursing and doctors etc in the country/ outback.
Mcface wrote:soggydog wrote:The Greens announce a $7.5 billion dollar policy to expand Medicare to cover dental for all. Under the Gillard government the greens negotiated to include child dental on Medicare. Fully costed policy will be covered by a 6% tax on billionaires and a corporate super profits tax.
Not sure what the LNP or Labor has in comparison.
Usually try to stay out of the politico threads but this caught my eye.
Dentistry is a sham in Australia. My partner has a couple of major procedures coming up on her teeth and it is looking like it will cost us somewhere in the order of $50K. That's our entire 5 years of post-uni savings -gone-. She had private health insurance with major dental which covers about $2k of the bill, it's disgusting.
At least her and I hold down good paying jobs so we can afford it without taking out a loan. The average Aussie would be fucked, no two ways about it. Still it's disheartening to see the idea of even owning a basic apartment slipping further from our grasp.
We give the seppos a lot of shit for their healthcare system (rightfully so) but a friend of mine over there now recently had major dental and paid all of a $700 excess, and that was that. Here there is no amount of private health insurance you can buy to cover you. Less well off Australians will either be up their eyeballs in debt or otherwise deal with having a disfigured face. Go figure.
Nah just go to Thailand and get it done for a 5th of the price. Look into the healthiest options and healthiest dentists in Thailand...my neighbor is getting teeth implants and its costing him fuck all, i dont know exactly how much but its stuff all compared to Australia.
seeds wrote:Optimist wrote:And there lies the problem….dentists have delusions of grandeur and charge whatever they like but…..perhaps the idea would be to train young dentists for free if they sign up to serve for 5 years on qualifying under a decent wage for them Medicare plan….that way Medicare could afford the program and the whole thing would work.
That’s a good idea. Could also work with nursing and doctors etc in the country/ outback.
you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
soggydog wrote:flollo wrote:soggydog wrote:The Greens announce a $7.5 billion dollar policy to expand Medicare to cover dental for all. Under the Gillard government the greens negotiated to include child dental on Medicare. Fully costed policy will be covered by a 6% tax on billionaires and a corporate super profits tax.
Not sure what the LNP or Labor has in comparison.
The short answer is nothing officially. I've gone through all the policies in a fair bit of detail and to be honest, there is not much separating the 2. I actually don't care who wins, they're both keen on defending the status quo.
On dental, children have up to a $1026 over 2 years. $1k is really nothing. The system is overpriced and overrated, I travel overseas when I need stuff done.
Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m getting at. The Greens at least have a costed policy designed to benefit all Australians.
They have an energy transition policy that includes retraining existing fossil fuel workers. Again people will be able to pick holes, legitimate and illegitimate, in it. But at least they are thinking about the future beyond the election.
The Greens will never get a fair run with media in Australia, even though they pretty much get double the votes of The National Party who form the Coalition govt. The agreement of which for the party of free enterprise and transparency will not share. If people knew Greens policies their vote would increase, msm narrative is they are fringe and loons
ABC just cuts Albo press conference to cover One Nation.... Ffs
Bloke who crashes Morrison's media drinks function labelled Labor voter, guy who crashes Albo concerned citizen and Albo gutless for not answering questions, not LNP voter crashes press conference.
Australian media is pathetic.
Josh $60 billion out with budget, but ok for treasurer, Albo stuffed up with unemployment figure , not suitable for PM.
And let's not mention Joyce our distinguished deputy PM not knowing what is legislated or not.... Pfft....
groundswell wrote:Nah just go to Thailand and get it done for a 5th of the price. Look into the healthiest options and healthiest dentists in Thailand...my neighbor is getting teeth implants and its costing him fuck all, i dont know exactly how much but its stuff all compared to Australia.
We would do GS but the procedures are ongoing over the period of about a year and so we can't ditch our jobs and move really. She's getting the full works - jaw recon, implants, orthodontics, the lot.
@Mcface I feel your pain. Some say - take private health cover. Well, private health cover is a Ponzi scheme, you can't get covered for anything. A guy working for me is from Pakistan. He went there on leave in January and had some work done. I asked him about it and he reckons that the service where he goes is fantastic. Honestly, I would travel to Pakistan without any hesitation (would check with some people first, do the research of course...) to get the work done. I hate this system we have here.
groundswell wrote:Mcface wrote:soggydog wrote:The Greens announce a $7.5 billion dollar policy to expand Medicare to cover dental for all. Under the Gillard government the greens negotiated to include child dental on Medicare. Fully costed policy will be covered by a 6% tax on billionaires and a corporate super profits tax.
Not sure what the LNP or Labor has in comparison.
Usually try to stay out of the politico threads but this caught my eye.
Dentistry is a sham in Australia. My partner has a couple of major procedures coming up on her teeth and it is looking like it will cost us somewhere in the order of $50K. That's our entire 5 years of post-uni savings -gone-. She had private health insurance with major dental which covers about $2k of the bill, it's disgusting.
At least her and I hold down good paying jobs so we can afford it without taking out a loan. The average Aussie would be fucked, no two ways about it. Still it's disheartening to see the idea of even owning a basic apartment slipping further from our grasp.
We give the seppos a lot of shit for their healthcare system (rightfully so) but a friend of mine over there now recently had major dental and paid all of a $700 excess, and that was that. Here there is no amount of private health insurance you can buy to cover you. Less well off Australians will either be up their eyeballs in debt or otherwise deal with having a disfigured face. Go figure.
Nah just go to Thailand and get it done for a 5th of the price. Look into the healthiest options and healthiest dentists in Thailand...my neighbor is getting teeth implants and its costing him fuck all, i dont know exactly how much but its stuff all compared to Australia.
Or Indo also fraction of the price than in Australia and you would be amazed at how modern and clean the clinics are and they generally speak english as well educated more often than not Indo Chinese, actually the dentist there told me all the text book etc are in english.
If need be go to an Aus dentist first find out what you need done, then get it done over there at a fraction of the price.
I get cleans there too for about $25 to $35 Aud
Id expect prices in Jakarta and Bali might vary, other larger cities in Java are the go for price.
Roadkill wrote:you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
You're a moron RK, up there with the stupidity of statements from VicMoron.
Let's see how you go wiring up your house, switchboard and connect to the grid, do all the work to Aus standards, complete all the testing to ensure you don't kill your family and others, and come back and tell me how tradesmen have delusions of grandeur.
fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill wrote:you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
You're a moron RK, up there with the stupidity of statements from VicMoron.
Let's see how you go wiring up your house, switchboard and connect to the grid, do all the work to Aus standards, complete all the testing to ensure you don't kill your family and others, and come back and tell me how tradesmen have delusions of grandeur.
quality of work or the ability to do the job to the standards is not in question.
Is a sparky worth more than a pharmacist? or a teacher or a nurse?
The ability to bill to a level that people will pay is what I am saying. And, most tradies are getting ahead of their value for what they do, when compared to other equally or more important jobs in the community.
You are getting your panties all twisted for nothing.
fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill wrote:you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
You're a moron RK, up there with the stupidity of statements from VicMoron.
Let's see how you go wiring up your house, switchboard and connect to the grid, do all the work to Aus standards, complete all the testing to ensure you don't kill your family and others, and come back and tell me how tradesmen have delusions of grandeur.
And carrying the liability for the work, worker’s and adherence to standards.
soggydog wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill wrote:you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
You're a moron RK, up there with the stupidity of statements from VicMoron.
Let's see how you go wiring up your house, switchboard and connect to the grid, do all the work to Aus standards, complete all the testing to ensure you don't kill your family and others, and come back and tell me how tradesmen have delusions of grandeur.
And carrying the liability for the work, worker’s and adherence to standards.
+ standards themselves are not free, they need to be purchased. Its own controversial problem.
flollo wrote:soggydog wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill wrote:you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
You're a moron RK, up there with the stupidity of statements from VicMoron.
Let's see how you go wiring up your house, switchboard and connect to the grid, do all the work to Aus standards, complete all the testing to ensure you don't kill your family and others, and come back and tell me how tradesmen have delusions of grandeur.
And carrying the liability for the work, worker’s and adherence to standards.
+ standards themselves are not free, they need to be purchased. Its own controversial problem.
+ complete regular exams to ensure your knowledge of all the standards and changes in regulations so you can renew your licence to enable you to work. The list is endless.
But hey, delusions of grandeur according to RK....
fitzroy-21 wrote:flollo wrote:soggydog wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill wrote:you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
You're a moron RK, up there with the stupidity of statements from VicMoron.
Let's see how you go wiring up your house, switchboard and connect to the grid, do all the work to Aus standards, complete all the testing to ensure you don't kill your family and others, and come back and tell me how tradesmen have delusions of grandeur.
And carrying the liability for the work, worker’s and adherence to standards.
+ standards themselves are not free, they need to be purchased. Its own controversial problem.
+ complete regular exams to ensure your knowledge of all the standards and changes in regulations so you can renew your licence to enable you to work. The list is endless.
But hey, delusions of grandeur according to RK....
fitzroy, Are sparkies worth more than pharmacists? nurses?..both jobs that can kill the customer if they do the wrong thing.
soggydog wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill wrote:you can add plumbers and builders and multiple other trades and professions to those with delusions of granduer..most will charge what they can get away with.
You're a moron RK, up there with the stupidity of statements from VicMoron.
Let's see how you go wiring up your house, switchboard and connect to the grid, do all the work to Aus standards, complete all the testing to ensure you don't kill your family and others, and come back and tell me how tradesmen have delusions of grandeur.
And carrying the liability for the work, worker’s and adherence to standards.
make me laugh..tradies are the worst at folding companies to get out of liability.
It is what it is. Always puzzled my dad, coming from the old country where it was education/white collar that got ahead. Recently told a builder with own business by early 40's can have similar achievement to a lawyer at the bar. Australia. It is what it is.
Roadkill "fitzroy, Are sparkies worth more than pharmacists? nurses?..both jobs that can kill the customer if they do the wrong thing."
It's all relative RK.
Your average house basher working a 40hr week most probably won't earn as much, whereas those working bigger hours, on call etc probably will.
Those in the mining industry working 12-14hours a day, away from their families, in dirty, dangerous conditions most likely will too.
How long do pharmacists or nurses train to become qualified? Do they have to constantly requalify/prove their intimate knowledge of their chosen profession and pay licencing renewal fees?
soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:zenagain wrote:Unemployment figures should be based solely on full-time employment.
See what percentage they get then.
I agree 1hr is too low, but the worlds a very different place to what it was in the past, lots of people aren't locked into a nine to five 38hr a week type job, work-life balance and work place flexibility has become more popular than ever, especially after Covid with many people working from home more than ever and lines between work and life being more fuzzy than ever and just getting a certain amount of work done being more important.
Full time work is generally classed as 35hrs a week or more, i and many people i know rarely work a 35hr week for family and lifestyle choice reasons, id be classed unemployed under that measure, instead my wife maybe does 15-20hrs a week and i do about 30hrs a week
I have many friends that are in similar situations all by choice, or have other income streams like air BnB's
Ive also met quite a few older people who retired then kind of got bored and decided to go back to work often just half a working week, often back to their original work place.
Things are changing and becoming more flexible than ever and less 9-5 38hrs a week based.
I would say that given you’ve already mentioned that your wife is pretty savvy at finding the “free money from the government” (it’s never free, somebody has to pay it back). And combined you work about 50 hrs a week. If you require government assistance beyond the basics such as Medicare, school, childcare and infrastructure etc (What is available to everyone) to maintain a relaxed lifestyle then by comparison to many, yes you are wilfully under employed to maintain your lifestyle and choose socialist economic policies over work.
Mmmmmm, Indo didn’t even know he was a socialist.
99.999999% of my income is delivered by myself from my own business in a free market, not exactly sure how my wife chasing some free money makes me a socialist.
Im not against some socialist type policies to help those in need, but i do believe in balance and a capitalist based market/society.
When i was young i was on the dole for some time and believed if i didn't want to work i should just receive money and a job go to someone that really wanted it, back then i probably didnt even know the meaning of the word but really i was a true socialist, but having lived like that and been with many with the similar mindsets, i understand how damaging it is to people and society, its soul destroying and like a drug very hard to escape.
On the flipside working especially for yourself is the opposite, it fills your soul with satisfaction and proud when you achieve your goals, and when you work for things you appreciate them.much more than if they are gifted to you.
"back then i probably didnt even know the meaning of the word but really i was a true socialist,"
If that's your definition then you still don't know the meaning of the word now.
velocityjohnno wrote:It is what it is. Always puzzled my dad, coming from the old country where it was education/white collar that got ahead. Recently told a builder with own business by early 40's can have similar achievement to a lawyer at the bar. Australia. It is what it is.
Being in the industry and knowing first hand all the paperwork and liabilities and standards that have to be met to be a registered builder I’m all for them being paid similar to a lawyer.
You’re not just working your 40 hours a week then knocking off for the weekend and not thinking about work until 7:00am again on Monday if you’re running a building company. Not a half decent one anyway.
You’re working 60-80 hours a week
indo-dreaming wrote:When i was young i was on the dole for some time and believed if i didn't want to work i should just receive money and a job go to someone that really wanted it
wot
indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:zenagain wrote:Unemployment figures should be based solely on full-time employment.
See what percentage they get then.
I agree 1hr is too low, but the worlds a very different place to what it was in the past, lots of people aren't locked into a nine to five 38hr a week type job, work-life balance and work place flexibility has become more popular than ever, especially after Covid with many people working from home more than ever and lines between work and life being more fuzzy than ever and just getting a certain amount of work done being more important.
Full time work is generally classed as 35hrs a week or more, i and many people i know rarely work a 35hr week for family and lifestyle choice reasons, id be classed unemployed under that measure, instead my wife maybe does 15-20hrs a week and i do about 30hrs a week
I have many friends that are in similar situations all by choice, or have other income streams like air BnB's
Ive also met quite a few older people who retired then kind of got bored and decided to go back to work often just half a working week, often back to their original work place.
Things are changing and becoming more flexible than ever and less 9-5 38hrs a week based.
I would say that given you’ve already mentioned that your wife is pretty savvy at finding the “free money from the government” (it’s never free, somebody has to pay it back). And combined you work about 50 hrs a week. If you require government assistance beyond the basics such as Medicare, school, childcare and infrastructure etc (What is available to everyone) to maintain a relaxed lifestyle then by comparison to many, yes you are wilfully under employed to maintain your lifestyle and choose socialist economic policies over work.
Mmmmmm, Indo didn’t even know he was a socialist.
99.999999% of my income is delivered by myself from my own business in a free market, not exactly sure how my wife chasing some free money makes me a socialist.
Im not against some socialist type policies to help those in need, but i do believe in balance and a capitalist based market/society.
When i was young i was on the dole for some time and believed if i didn't want to work i should just receive money and a job go to someone that really wanted it, back then i probably didnt even know the meaning of the word but really i was a true socialist, but having lived like that and been with many with the similar mindsets, i understand how damaging it is to people and society, its soul destroying and like a drug very hard to escape.
On the flipside working especially for yourself is the opposite, it fills your soul with satisfaction and proud when you achieve your goals, and when you work for things you appreciate them.much more than if they are gifted to you.
You really have no idea what Socialism is and how it works...
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Tradesman are not overcharging in the regional areas…I just had a plumber do 5 hours work for $500 and I was real happy with that…..one of my old friends is a dentist, I go to him for half an hour (a decent size rebuild) and with a light, a squirty drill and 2 milligrams of resin he lets me know that he’s given me a discount so $500 will do…gee thanks bra…..so yeh the Medicare dental thing is a winner idea but won’t work without a Medicare dentist as none will go for it so you’ll have to train some freshies.
Totally goofy - it is demanding, especially if you run it. I am happy for my young one to have the opportunity, and to have a dynamic and good boss who is doing exactly this. I also see the good qualified guys go back/forth from having their own enterprise, and then working for someone else so they have their free time themselves. The big surprise for my dad was the ethos that he was raised with - get educated, rise within a white collar company: Australia seems to turn this on its head in many instances. There is nothing wrong with this, it is what it is. Graduating in the 90's when many graduates got short changed, the frustrations from the tradies doing really well have been voiced to me many times. Why fight it, this is how it is. If construction ever does fall into recession, I have a backlog of work to be done around the house for my young one!
Edit: speaking of all the paperwork & standards, the most incredible cleaning up I ever saw when surveying was a setup where bloke setup himself as OHS company in charge of major project - ie all paperwork/responsibility for any incident on a big site - then charged the most insane money I'd ever encountered to manage this. Stress, yes. Money, why, yes. Crazy yes.
fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill "fitzroy, Are sparkies worth more than pharmacists? nurses?..both jobs that can kill the customer if they do the wrong thing."
It's all relative RK.
Your average house basher working a 40hr week most probably won't earn as much, whereas those working bigger hours, on call etc probably will.
Those in the mining industry working 12-14hours a day, away from their families, in dirty, dangerous conditions most likely will too.
How long do pharmacists or nurses train to become qualified? Do they have to constantly requalify/prove their intimate knowledge of their chosen profession and pay licencing renewal fees?
EDT;Sorry fitzy this one is for Roaddill
OK cancer boy, the difference is, are tradies working for a flat rate compared to the health professionals who maybe on wages. How many nurses have to take ALL of the equipment they need to perform the tasks assigned to complete the job, or is that provided by the employer. Workers comp. liability insurance.
Roadkill you have zero fucking clues.
velocityjohnno wrote:It is what it is. Always puzzled my dad, coming from the old country where it was education/white collar that got ahead. Recently told a builder with own business by early 40's can have similar achievement to a lawyer at the bar. Australia. It is what it is.
Any run of the mill lawyer would be working in excess of 60 hours pw year in year out after flogging themselves to near death at university for 6 years and then a few more to get your articles while being the dog's body at some big law firm.
I just wonder about the gutting of the TAFE sector years ago (JWH) has caused a breakdown in the former programs that provided a steady and predictable steam of well trained apprentices. I know plenty of experienced (self employed) tradies and none have apprentices because its too hard, they don't want the bother and they earn good money regardless because the demand is so good. Where I hear some complain is when they need to compete against cheap imported labour so they no longer work from project builders. More apprentices, more competition lower prices?
thermalben wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:When i was young i was on the dole for some time and believed if i didn't want to work i should just receive money and a job go to someone that really wanted it
wot
Not sure why you’re so shocked? Indo has just said out loud the intention of everyone who pushes for the Big Australia Ponzi ie every member of the LNP, ALP and Greens.
The difference being that the party faithful believe it’s their entitlement to increase wealth through asset inflation as the masses of immigrants compete for the jobs they no longer require due to their rentier status.
Scomo, Albanese and Bandt are all happy to let the recent arrivals take the jobs they don’t want or need.due to the lifestyle allowed them by government policy. No different from Indo back in his heady dole days.
https://m.
Haha.... Young wannabe journalist pup looked confused...
Yes GS - which path really looks more appealing?
Luckily young one has a good apprenticeship - and is good at what he does.
soggydog wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:Roadkill "fitzroy, Are sparkies worth more than pharmacists? nurses?..both jobs that can kill the customer if they do the wrong thing."
It's all relative RK.
Your average house basher working a 40hr week most probably won't earn as much, whereas those working bigger hours, on call etc probably will.
Those in the mining industry working 12-14hours a day, away from their families, in dirty, dangerous conditions most likely will too.
How long do pharmacists or nurses train to become qualified? Do they have to constantly requalify/prove their intimate knowledge of their chosen profession and pay licencing renewal fees?EDT;Sorry fitzy this one is for Roaddill
OK cancer boy, the difference is, are tradies working for a flat rate compared to the health professionals who maybe on wages. How many nurses have to take ALL of the equipment they need to perform the tasks assigned to complete the job, or is that provided by the employer. Workers comp. liability insurance.
Roadkill you have zero fucking clues.
Ask him how he makes a living.
Odds on he’s an non-productive middle man who employs others and skims their earnings. Bet he’s a labour hire stooge of some description. One of Howard’s “aspirational” Little Kings.
Also, have any of you seen Polish construction workers working in London? Getting chatting, they aren't paid much (in comparison to us) and work like Trojans.
"back then i probably didnt even know the meaning of the word but really i was a true socialist,"
I used to do renovations on my dentist's house and was charging him $60/hour and materials +15%. I visited him twice a year and got charged the equivalent of $400 per hour. His house looks fantastic but you can't even see what he did to my teeth. I guess I was part donor in his Aston Martin. Good tradesmen deserve a lot more than what they get. Shit tradesmen (and there are a lot of them) deserve to be relegated to unskilled labourer.
indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:zenagain wrote:Unemployment figures should be based solely on full-time employment.
See what percentage they get then.
I agree 1hr is too low, but the worlds a very different place to what it was in the past, lots of people aren't locked into a nine to five 38hr a week type job, work-life balance and work place flexibility has become more popular than ever, especially after Covid with many people working from home more than ever and lines between work and life being more fuzzy than ever and just getting a certain amount of work done being more important.
Full time work is generally classed as 35hrs a week or more, i and many people i know rarely work a 35hr week for family and lifestyle choice reasons, id be classed unemployed under that measure, instead my wife maybe does 15-20hrs a week and i do about 30hrs a week
I have many friends that are in similar situations all by choice, or have other income streams like air BnB's
Ive also met quite a few older people who retired then kind of got bored and decided to go back to work often just half a working week, often back to their original work place.
Things are changing and becoming more flexible than ever and less 9-5 38hrs a week based.
I would say that given you’ve already mentioned that your wife is pretty savvy at finding the “free money from the government” (it’s never free, somebody has to pay it back). And combined you work about 50 hrs a week. If you require government assistance beyond the basics such as Medicare, school, childcare and infrastructure etc (What is available to everyone) to maintain a relaxed lifestyle then by comparison to many, yes you are wilfully under employed to maintain your lifestyle and choose socialist economic policies over work.
Mmmmmm, Indo didn’t even know he was a socialist.
99.999999% of my income is delivered by myself from my own business in a free market, not exactly sure how my wife chasing some free money makes me a socialist.
Im not against some socialist type policies to help those in need, but i do believe in balance and a capitalist based market/society.
When i was young i was on the dole for some time and believed if i didn't want to work i should just receive money and a job go to someone that really wanted it, back then i probably didnt even know the meaning of the word but really i was a true socialist, but having lived like that and been with many with the similar mindsets, i understand how damaging it is to people and society, its soul destroying and like a drug very hard to escape.
On the flipside working especially for yourself is the opposite, it fills your soul with satisfaction and proud when you achieve your goals, and when you work for things you appreciate them.much more than if they are gifted to you.
If your wife wasn’t chasing the “Free Money” would there be a gap in your monthly household budget that would need to be filled?
velocityjohnno wrote:Also, have any of you seen Polish construction workers working in London? Getting chatting, they aren't paid much (in comparison to us) and work like Trojans.
Yes, that is true. This happens across the whole of EU (well, UK is out I guess), you could basically move to Germany tomorrow and start working, there's plenty of work (pending you are legally allowed to do that).
garyg1412 wrote:I used to do renovations on my dentist's house and was charging him $60/hour and materials +15%. I visited him twice a year and got charged the equivalent of $400 per hour. His house looks fantastic but you can't even see what he did to my teeth. I guess I was part donor in his Aston Martin. Good tradesmen deserve a lot more than what they get. Shit tradesmen (and there are a lot of them) deserve to be relegated to unskilled labourer.
Haha, that's funny. $60 an hour is a fair price in my opinion. $60 minus fixed OH (cars, tools, licenses, etc...), super (if you pay it), pay taxes...There's not that much left to be honest.
Yep Flollo - some of the work Germany wants is stuff like advanced machinists; that would be so weird an apprenticeship, learning German (they do incorporate this in some courses) and then working high end tech skills.
Aber es gibt keine Wellen.
Not sure about the point of formal language education these days? Easy enough to learn the essentials of German from porn.
Mit der faust!
hhahahaha! They're a weird mob our cousins.
I'm gonna give a big "fuck yeah!" to Adam Bandt and that answer he gave in the video above.
Get some fire in your guts, mate.
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