COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:I see the usual suspects are banging on about "the narrative is collapsing". WTF happened to "Australia has fallen"? Well that crap had a shelf life of about 2 months.
What will February's bullshit slogan be burliegh? You're very much down the rabbit hole, give us a sneak preview of the future crap you're about to regurgitate.I would imagine it will be more about kids and the grooming happening at school.
You see the video I posted above from your beloved government?
And no doubt you'll see the anti-vaxxers as heroes protecting the kids. Same playbook as the Qanon lunatics who want to save the kids being held captive in tunnels by the pedo cabal.
burleigh, you're in a cult.
What is a cult?
A cult is a group or movement held together by a shared commitment to a charismatic leader or ideology. It has a belief system that has the answers to all of life's questions and offers a special solution to be gained only by following the leaders rules.
Sounds like you’re in a cult mate
Supafreak wrote:
And there is the cult leader
You gotta hand it to Burleigh, that's some proper crystal ballin' there. I guess one has to be truly immersed in the dirty world of inventing imaginary enemies and pretending you're some sort of saviour for the children, mostly to suit you're own personal whims.
Any sypkan, you ok? Did that one get you a little close to home?
Just a reminder, this redundant thread is called 'Covid Health System Overload Forecaster', not share your favourite doubt/misinformation from sources which scream disrepute. there's plenty of echo chambers in the world of telegram you anti vaxxers can retreat to and have a cry about censorship, or sheeple or pin cushions or whatever it is you all chat about.
Rest assured, no one with any level of decision making responsibility will give two fucks about what you're misguided opinions entail, and your favourite celebrity grifters, once they lose momentum, will quickly pivot to profit from the next 'outrage of the gullible' event - who know what that will be....electric cars? 6G? Gender equality? A cure for heart disease?
Stok wrote:You gotta hand it to Burleigh, that's some proper crystal ballin' there. I guess one has to be truly immersed in the dirty world of inventing imaginary enemies and pretending you're some sort of saviour for the children, mostly to suit you're own personal whims.
Any sypkan, you ok? Did that one get you a little close to home?
Just a reminder, this redundant thread is called 'Covid Health System Overload Forecaster', not share your favourite doubt/misinformation from sources which scream disrepute. there's plenty of echo chambers in the world of telegram you anti vaxxers can retreat to and have a cry about censorship, or sheeple or pin cushions or whatever it is you all chat about.
Rest assured, no one with any level of decision making responsibility will give two fucks about what you're misguided opinions entail, and your favourite celebrity grifters, once they lose momentum, will quickly pivot to profit from the next 'outrage of the gullible' event - who know what that will be....electric cars? 6G? Gender equality? A cure for heart disease?
You’re happy with vaccine propaganda directed at kids then Stok?
Curated videos to coerce 14 year olds to go against parents wishes? Paid for by your tax dollars.
Heart disease? That’s already reversible brains. It’s called eating healthy. I know this first hand as my father has heart disease, as did his father.
Another expert you will probably ignore is Dr Gregor https://nutritionfacts.org for tips on reversing heart disease. It doesn’t involve big pharma so I’m assuming you won’t agree with him, and that’s ok
I don't have an issue with that Burleigh. Considering 93% of 16+ yr olds have had their vax, most parents are not as paranoid as you about this, so it's mostly a non issue. for the 5% or so of the population who do have an issue with this - well, hopefully their paranoia doesn't spread to their kids. You're worried about government funded 'propaganda', I'd be a bit more worried about the poor kids who get dragged along to protests to listen to George Christensen and brought up on a diet of misinformation.
It's nothing new that young people under the age of 18 (yes, even 14) are able to see doctors themselves and have a degree of medical privacy.
But - and stop the press for this one - I do agree with you on Nutrition Facts! I've been eating plant based for about 6 or 7 years now (lost count) and happily listened to nutritionists who fulfilled my narrative. Two main differences though - a vegan diet is recognised by Dieticians Australia (or whatever they're called) as being sufficiently healthy, and it's a personal choice of mine which doesn't effect the health of others.
See? Don't judge a book by it's cover Burlsy...
Israeli Experts Slam their own Vax Failure...(2 years on ...it's coming undone!)
Israeli officials were surprised & disappointed Vax did not stop transmission.
Now it's turned to shit!
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/israeli-officials-...
CDC : May-Nov 2021 (Back Study -new release) Correction!
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/prior-infection-vaccination-offered-greate...
Up to June early (Delta) : "Vax offered better protection against breakthrus."
Delta dominant Vax wane period to Nov : "Prior (Natural infection) offered better protection than Vax."
Noted > Strictly : pre Booster / Omicron (period)
UK Booster (3) 26th Dec- 16th Jan 2022 = 943,915 (Adult break-thru Booster infections)
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Strange how we never read about these 1m/month Booster Spikes...yet there it is!
Guessing it's a more posh VIP Mass Vax Covid spread, well beyond puny Omicron infection rates.
Experts voted for most/least ineffectual 2nd shot chasers = #1 J&J > #2 Moderna. (Sounds right!)
Israel Booster (4) or 5/6/7/8 or 100/200/ 1,000 x mRNA cannot & willfully refuses to block infection!
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/17/health/israel-fourth-dose-early-data/...
* Slightly more Antibodies than 3rd Dose but nowhere near enough to prevent Omicron break-thrus
* Even a good Vax won't prevent Omicron breakthru.
* Only slightly few less infections than 3 dose group. ( Small group + Only 1 month in!)
* No difference with Moderna / Pfizer.
* Not worth it to dose the general population
Pfizer : "We gotta new brew in March!"
Some dread that poking the beast with a stick may mutate the Virus beyond our measure.
New Zealand needs about 1500 more hospital specialists, 1400 GPs and 12,000 nurses to match Australia per capita,
Roadkill wrote:https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/anti-vaxxers-fabricate-s...
Says the bloke who fabricated the death by covid of a toddler a couple of weeks ago.
Roadkill wrote:https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/anti-vaxxers-fabricate-s...
C’mon Toadkill, you can do better than that.
What about all the deaths reported “with Covid” over the last two years.
Didn’t some guy get shot and died, then was recorded as a covid death?
You got a short memory mate.
Medina out.
Was it due to vaccine mandate (he does say he took vaccine)
Or vaccine injury?
Swellnet gossip girl
From TBB's Israel link above:
“We don’t see virtually any difference between people vaccinated and non-vaccinated, both can get infected with the virus more or less at the same pace,” he said.
Pfizer’s Dr Bourla last week said two doses of its current Covid-19 vaccine offer “very limited protection, if any” against Omicron
Mmmmmmm.... benefits of kids vaccination program?
New simple strategy:
Omicron = nature's vaccine. Job done?
good news. According to the Guardian poll, voter satisfaction of the Fed government's handling of Covid 19 has crumbled over summer. The bad news is 1 in 3 Australians still think the Fed govt is competent. They are either thick or not paying attention.
Didn’t some guy get shot and died, then was recorded as a covid death?
Medina out due to a vaccine injury?
FFS burleigh, you're not well.
Maybe it's time for a break, go for a walk, take some nice photos for your own health.
https://meaww.com/large-excess-deaths-new-york-30-percent-coronavirus-pa...
"There was an increase in observed, compared with expected, mortality in Scotland (+27%), England and Wales (+35%), the Netherlands (+60%), and New York state (+26%). Of these deaths, 57% in Scotland, 57% in England and Wales, 51% in the Netherlands, and 70% in New York state were attributed to COVID-19, leaving a number of excess deaths not attributed to COVID-19," say researchers in their findings, a pre-print version of which has been published.
Tales of empty emergency wards with far fewer presenting for heart pain (and other symptoms of serious disease) during the lockdown and the fear phase ring true. Just one unintended cost of endless simplistic fear and staying "safe" health messaging.
Probably should have focussed on protected the elderly and vulnerable. Oh well, only cost a few trillion dollars.
Makes you wonder if the virus had not gone straight into very elderly dominated regions of Italy early on and scared the crap out of everyone what would have happened.
F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Do you think years of cocaine abuse can cause long-term paranoid delusions?
https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/eric-clapton-subliminal-messages-co...
Excess deaths (Covid plus all other) are a real puzzle. The question is from what?
Very hard to qualify the non Covid deaths into attributable factors.
I think perhaps the barometer of the success of a country in how they handle(d) the pandemic will be this.
For example, a country may do well in terms of Covid deaths but if their total excess deaths (Covid plus other) is very large per capita then perhaps they have not done so well.
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Convince me that the following is not true:
Israel and the overall worldwide omicron experience. Now mandatory vaccination of school children in California. Protests and riots across the globe.
The contradictions, polarisation, confusion, unease, discontent and disintegration continue to accumulate and intensify.
The US political and legal system, media, big tech, police force, military, etc, continue to be increasingly engrained as just tools for the wealthy US corporate elite. US institutions no longer serve in the interests or for the welfare for the US and its people as a whole. Australia is going down the same path.
We are now living in civil and global war times. We are now post fact, truth, evidence, reason, logic, knowledge, history, sanity. We are now post governments operating in the service of the people.
All truth is lost. Everything we see around us is wartime smoke and mirrors, misinformation and propaganda. Just distractions, diversions, deflections. Pure illusion.
All governmental, educational, legal, enforcement, scientific, military, etc, institutions and processes are compromised and corrupted. They are broken and no longer operating based on reason, evidence and truth. They are no longer in service of the people. They are infiltrated and controlled by the wealthy US corporate elite.
There is no separation between the media, governments, science, big tech and corporations. People are unable to discern when a "news article" they are reading is advertising and public relations or when it is traditional, neutral and factual reporting.
The pro covid, pro vaccine & booster, anti natural immunity, etc, side is as dangerous and completely false of a bubble, rabbit hole and echo chamber as any other. The ABC is completely lost in this echo chamber and doesn't realise it; it is not a neutral news service reporting fact and truth.
Government communication, rules, orders and law can no longer be trusted. It is now every man and women for themselves.
All hope is lost.
gsco wrote:Convince me that the following is not true:
Israel and the overall worldwide omicron experience. Now mandatory vaccination of school children in California. Protests and riots across the globe.
The contradictions, polarisation, confusion, unease, discontent and disintegration continue to accumulate and intensify.
The US political and legal system, media, big tech, police force, military, etc, continue to be increasingly engrained as just tools for the wealthy US corporate elite. US institutions no longer serve in the interests or for the welfare for the US and its people as a whole. Australia is going down the same path.
We are now living in civil and global war times. We are now post fact, truth, evidence, reason, logic, knowledge, history, sanity. We are now post governments operating in the service of the people.
All truth is lost. Everything we see around us is wartime smoke and mirrors, misinformation and propaganda. Just distractions, diversions, deflections. Pure illusion.
All governmental, educational, legal, enforcement, scientific, military, etc, institutions and processes are compromised and corrupted. They are broken and no longer operating based on reason, evidence and truth. They are no longer in service of the people. They are infiltrated and controlled by the wealthy US corporate elite.
There is no separation between the media, governments, science, big tech and corporations. People are unable to discern when a "news article" they are reading is advertising and public relations or when it is traditional, neutral and factual reporting.
The pro covid, pro vaccine & booster, anti natural immunity, etc, side is as dangerous and completely false of a bubble, rabbit hole and echo chamber as any other. The ABC is completely lost in this echo chamber and doesn't realise it; it is not a neutral news service reporting fact and truth.
Government communication, rules, orders and law can no longer be trusted. It is now every man and women for themselves.
All hope is lost.
Armageddon! Run for the hills! More paranoid delusions.
Not that bad gsco but there’s some truth in that
gsco wrote:Convince me that the following is not true:
Israel and the overall worldwide omicron experience. Now mandatory vaccination of school children in California. Protests and riots across the globe.
The contradictions, polarisation, confusion, unease, discontent and disintegration continue to accumulate and intensify.
The US political and legal system, media, big tech, police force, military, etc, continue to be increasingly engrained as just tools for the wealthy US corporate elite. US institutions no longer serve in the interests or for the welfare for the US and its people as a whole. Australia is going down the same path.
We are now living in civil and global war times. We are now post fact, truth, evidence, reason, logic, knowledge, history, sanity. We are now post governments operating in the service of the people.
All truth is lost. Everything we see around us is wartime smoke and mirrors, misinformation and propaganda. Just distractions, diversions, deflections. Pure illusion.
All governmental, educational, legal, enforcement, scientific, military, etc, institutions and processes are compromised and corrupted. They are broken and no longer operating based on reason, evidence and truth. They are no longer in service of the people. They are infiltrated and controlled by the wealthy US corporate elite.
There is no separation between the media, governments, science, big tech and corporations. People are unable to discern when a "news article" they are reading is advertising and public relations or when it is traditional, neutral and factual reporting.
The pro covid, pro vaccine & booster, anti natural immunity, etc, side is as dangerous and completely false of a bubble, rabbit hole and echo chamber as any other. The ABC is completely lost in this echo chamber and doesn't realise it; it is not a neutral news service reporting fact and truth.
Government communication, rules, orders and law can no longer be trusted. It is now every man and women for themselves.
All hope is lost.
How very dramatic. You should hide under the bed.
monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Haha spot on. Each to their own, but I do have to smile at the time wasted by the many repeat posters on here that are simply pissing into the wind if they think they will change someone's mind on the whole covid carry-on. But if it helps to pass the day, then play on.
I tend to pop my head in here now and then for a giggle at Blowin and VicLocal going back at each other. Good stuff, keep it up. Neither of you are right all the time, even though you think you are.
monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Reckon we need a Ding Alley take on whole thing... (•‿•)
Haha.
monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Haha! Change of opinion? That's not what the internet is for monkeyboy....
andy-mac wrote:Reckon we need a Ding Alley take on whole thing... (•‿•)
It'd be a great read, for sure!
Having just reread Toonalook Anti-Waxxer Movement Publishes Manifesto, I think I may have seen the light .
Stok wrote:monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Haha! Change of opinion? That's not what the internet is for monkeyboy....
It's more of a finger in the dyke situation. If intelligent people don't highlight the imbeciles and frauds in the anti-vaxxer movement, the dam might burst. It's about stopping people going down the miserable anti-vaxxer rabbit hole.
Vic Local wrote:Stok wrote:monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Haha! Change of opinion? That's not what the internet is for monkeyboy....
It's more of a finger in the dyke situation. If intelligent people don't highlight the imbeciles and frauds in the anti-vaxxer movement, the dam might burst. It's about stopping people going down the miserable anti-vaxxer rabbit hole.
That’s a quote I haven’t heard before. Sure to upset the feminists among us.
Surely you’re not referring to yourself as the intellectual. It ain’t April fools yet.
Anyway, vaccinated deaths still take up the high majority of deaths in the states that report them.
I will always have something in common with the pin cushions, we will all never be fully vaccinated.
How many jabs until you say enough is enough? High majority of people I have spoken to will not be getting a 3rd.
So let’s see how long until it’s mandated. I’m guessing in the next two weeks.
I changed my opinion 180 degrees over the course of this thread. I was once a chickenshit softcock who believed that we would all keel over in the streets, like the Chinamen in the videos, once the Death Plague reached our communities. But you’ve got to keep an open mind and when big holes started appearing in the story it was time to review the situation amd constantly review. Leave the blinkered ideology for the cultists.
Dyke is a type of wall/embankment Burleigh.
Vic Local wrote:Stok wrote:monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Haha! Change of opinion? That's not what the internet is for monkeyboy....
It's more of a finger in the dyke situation. If intelligent people don't highlight the imbeciles and frauds in the anti-vaxxer movement, the dam might burst. It's about stopping people going down the miserable anti-vaxxer rabbit hole.
You lump anyone with vaccine hesitation into a group to loathe. You are creating divisions in the community.
I’m vaccinated but don’t believe that this vaccine will do anything but reduce the severity of illness if I catch Delta, that is fucking it. It doesn’t stop transmission, it doesn’t stop infection it simply reduces severity. It would appear it has little to no efficacy for Omicron. As far as the health system is concerned, we’ve had 2 years to get that shit sorted. It’s no longer those anti-vaccers, they’re just easy to blame.
I did go and get the home care kit recommended in the video by the doctor Gromly? Posted the other day. Nasal spray, balloons, throat gargle zinc etc.
How about RK yourself VL or anyone else who has railed against those that don’t want to vaccinate, been out and got a few items. Or just dunny paper rice and ibuprofen then wait for your booster?
No need to change minds, just realise it’s about choice…….consent, getting good information as it becomes available. And we’re better off without the division.
andy-mac wrote:monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Reckon we need a Ding Alley take on whole thing... (•‿•)
100% i think people would be crazy to not change their opinion on things as we have progressed.
Myself:
Early days 100% pro vax, pro vax mandates and i demonised those that didnt get vaccinated, i saw the vaccine as the one and only answer.
Now, my views have evolved im still pro vax, but as we have learnt aspects of the vaccines short comings ive adapted my views, for instance its clear the vax doesn't prevent transmission, so ive had to change my views on mandates because if it doesn't stop transmission then why does it matter if someone else is vaccinated or not???
Also i just stood back and thought why am i hating on people for something that is and should be their personal choice.
I also admit a lot of my change in views is about us hitting such high Vax rates as i just want to be able to go to Indo again.
BTW. I think Soggydogs above post is the first time ever ive agreed with him :D
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Stok wrote:monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Haha! Change of opinion? That's not what the internet is for monkeyboy....
It's more of a finger in the dyke situation. If intelligent people don't highlight the imbeciles and frauds in the anti-vaxxer movement, the dam might burst. It's about stopping people going down the miserable anti-vaxxer rabbit hole.
That’s a quote I haven’t heard before. Sure to upset the feminists among us.
Surely you’re not referring to yourself as the intellectual. It ain’t April fools yet.
Anyway, vaccinated deaths still take up the high majority of deaths in the states that report them.
I will always have something in common with the pin cushions, we will all never be fully vaccinated.
How many jabs until you say enough is enough? High majority of people I have spoken to will not be getting a 3rd.
So let’s see how long until it’s mandated. I’m guessing in the next two weeks.
geezus...the village idiot thinks of fingering a dyke....lmao.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Stok wrote:monkeyboy wrote:F.me is this thread still going. Anyone changed their opinion yet ?
Haha! Change of opinion? That's not what the internet is for monkeyboy....
It's more of a finger in the dyke situation. If intelligent people don't highlight the imbeciles and frauds in the anti-vaxxer movement, the dam might burst. It's about stopping people going down the miserable anti-vaxxer rabbit hole.
That’s a quote I haven’t heard before. Sure to upset the feminists among us.
Surely you’re not referring to yourself as the intellectual. It ain’t April fools yet.
Anyway, vaccinated deaths still take up the high majority of deaths in the states that report them.
I will always have something in common with the pin cushions, we will all never be fully vaccinated.
How many jabs until you say enough is enough? High majority of people I have spoken to will not be getting a 3rd.
So let’s see how long until it’s mandated. I’m guessing in the next two weeks.
geezus...the village idiot thinks of fingering a dyke....lmao.
You don’t like fingering dykes?
Anyway back to it. UK just announced that unjabbed no longer have to quarantine if arriving internationally.
Barton lynch pulled from WSL commentary for speaking out about covid vaccines.
Another sad day:
https://beachgrit.com/2022/01/bombshell-wsl-pulls-hall-of-famer-and-form...
https://theconversation.com/will-an-omicron-specific-vaccine-help-contro...
"..... the question remains as to whether the rollout of these new vaccines would necessarily be useful to Australian society.....variant-specific vaccines are ultimately a reactive measure that could always leave us behind the eight ball"
and
"The solution to this problem may be “variant-proof” vaccines, also known as “universal” COVID" vaccines"
time to end the mandates. the situation can be reviewed depending on the circumstances e.g. vaccine effectiveness and disease severity risk if or when they develop a variant proof vaccine.
Australians need to reject and politically oppose the vaccine mandates and passports. All of us. They serve no useful purpose and have no scientific or medical evidence behind their imposition. End this rubbish now.
Burleigh, the reason that “vaccinated deaths still take up the high majority of deaths” is that the majority of the population is vaccinated. As others have tried to explain to you before, if approximately 5% of the population that is unvaccinated represent at least 10% of the deaths due to covid, then it means they are overrepresented. They are even more overrepresented in hospitalisations. By way of comparison to help you understand the statistics, do you think Aboriginal people are overrepresented in the Australian prison population? Aboriginal people constitute 29% of the prison population, yet they only represent 3% of the general population, which means they are massively overrepresented. It’s basic maths mate. Even I can understand it!
Blowin wrote:Australians need to reject and politically oppose the vaccine mandates and passports. All of us. They serve no useful purpose and have no scientific or medical evidence behind their imposition. End this rubbish now.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. more bullshit. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
overthefalls wrote:Burleigh, the reason that “vaccinated deaths still take up the high majority of deaths” is that the majority of the population is vaccinated. As others have tried to explain to you before, if approximately 5% of the population that is unvaccinated represent at least 10% of the deaths due to covid, then it means they are overrepresented. They are even more overrepresented in hospitalisations. By way of comparison to help you understand the statistics, do you think Aboriginal people are overrepresented in the Australian prison population? Aboriginal people constitute 29% of the prison population, yet they only represent 3% of the general population, which means they are massively overrepresented. It’s basic maths mate. Even I can understand it!
No I get it. But one would think that the wonder drug we’ve all had rammed down our throats over the two years would perform better than this right?
My issue is the vaccine mandates, vaccinating fit healthy people and kids for a disease that only kills the already dying.
If you’re old, sick or vulnerable, get the fucking vaccine and protect yourself like you would with any other virus, if you’re not take a Panadol and rest for two days.
The vaccine does not stop transmission like we were promised so to vaccinate the entire population to these false promises is fucked up.
The UK is dropping everything, what countries will follow.
The game is up, makes me feel sick when you hear the premiers “deepest sympathies” for the people who passed away with covid when triple would have died from heart disease the same day. Yet they don’t promote healthy eating.
The biggest killer is heart disease, surely they could mandate eating a fucking apple a day instead of mandating a vaccine that does fuck all.
But they won’t get kick backs from an apple farmer.
indo-dreaming wrote:Can anyone actually answer this question? (cause i dont have the answer)
People like Dr Malone & Dr Peter McCullough etc are undoubtably very smart people and very knowledgeable in their fields, they aren't just some blow in conspiracy theorist or uneducated in these areas.
So why do they take the views they have????
Whats in it for them????
I honestly just dont get it in this case, but im also not buying a lot of what they selling either.
sour grapes perhaps? an old article, but might shed some light
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccin...
ok vicvocal, let's try something different...
are you ok with the looming 3 monthly vaccine boosters being mandated for public servants?
(all whilst there's no mandate for politicians I might add...)
Yeah, this is how they promote “health”
If you want a golden gaytime, get one from the shops with no side effects.
indo-dreaming wrote:Now, my views have evolved im still pro vax, but as we have learnt aspects of the vaccines short comings ive adapted my views, for instance its clear the vax doesn't prevent transmission, so ive had to change my views on mandates because if it doesn't stop transmission then why does it matter if someone else is vaccinated or not???
Also i just stood back and thought why am i hating on people for something that is and should be their personal choice.
Sounds to me like sometime in the last 2 years, you switched from listening to qualified, respectable people, to anti vax propaganda.
It's a common calling card from anti vaxxers to remind everyone how much of a failure this vaccine is.
'They said the pandemic would be over'
'They changed the definition of vaccines'
'They said it would stop transmission'
The above, and the other common attacks they use, are flat out bullshit.
The vaccine was never purported to stop transmission, nor was it ever said to be perfect.
The vaccines, as always was the case, WAS purported to significantly reduce hospitalisations and deaths, which is still the case with Omicron. So that's why it matters, we have an extremely virulent, transmissible virus, which yes, is mild for the large proportion, yet is still spreading at a speed which is crippling our health systems. Which is in no way an acceptable outcome, yet there seems to be an idea that this is ok. If we didn't have the vax rates we have now, we'd be dealing with way more deaths and hospitalisations.
Vaccines are a method of defending this as best as possible, and due to our high vax rates, the governments have rolled the dice on staying open.
As I said before, the personal choice not to get vaccinated is actually not that bad, it's stupid, but not that bad. But spreading the BS propaganda is the height of idiocy.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia