Building Surf

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AlfredWallace started the topic in Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:04pm

It’s about time. Whether you are a ‘tradie’ or just a ‘weekend warrior’, us surfers like to think we can build stuff. So let it rip, let’s talk about anything to do with construction, be it, carpentry, timber, steel, painting, building, roofing, plumbing, drainage, paving, concreting, decks, pergolas, gazebos, retaining walls ( timber & masonry ), bricklaying, sheds, carports, garages, landscape construction, balconies, steps & stairs, skateboard ramps and half-pipes, cupboards, kitchens, bench tops and just about anything else your hands and brains can put together.

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:09pm

A bit of self indulgence to get the ball rolling.

This project all started with a frog, Southern Brown Tree Frog- Litoria ewingii ( brown morph)

A friend and colleague saw a picture I’d taken of a frog and said I want frogs in my garden, I said you are going to need a body of water. Frogs don’t live permanently in water, but we understand it’s vital for sexual reproduction and for the amphibians to keep their skin moist when required.

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:22pm

So, it started with a modification of my mates rear of his house. Took away a very ordinary deck built by others a decade ago.
First I reroofed a small verandah/shelter with polycarbonate and then connected it to a new roofed pergola combined with a deck.
Basically creating a whole new ‘garden room’ a liveable space.
All this happened about 10 weeks ago with the pond and surrounds finished 6 weeks ago.

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:25pm

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:32pm

Four weeks ago, really growing quickly and well.

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I built everything. I made all the cypress pine posts with nice finished tops, marine grade stainless wire that defines the space but is not heavy on the eye. I welded metal framed gates and veneered them with matching timber. Solar panel drives the pond pump which is fir water aeration and acoustics,
An external drinks rail on the east side of deck for cuppas or drinks.
Totally chuffed how it all turned out. Frogs have already made their homes. AW

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seeds Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:47pm

Lovely work AW. Looks great!

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basesix Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:51pm

you're an epic feller @AW. Best wax off thread since biota and sliced bread.

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blackers Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:51pm

Nice work AW. Shame about the title (of the thread) or was that deliberate?

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 8:59pm
blackers wrote:

Nice work AW. Shame about the title (of the thread) or was that deliberate?

Blackers . Hi mate. I chose the name, I thought well, we’re all builders really and we surf.
I’m happy to change it. Give me a few ideas then please. AW

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 9:01pm

- building sturf
… lovely sturf AW ;)

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 9:04pm
AlfredWallace wrote:

Four weeks ago, really growing quickly and well.

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I built everything. I made all the cypress pine posts with nice finished tops, marine grade stainless wire that defines the space but is not heavy on the eye. I welded metal framed gates and veneered them with matching timber. Solar panel drives the pond pump which is fir water aeration and acoustics,
An external drinks rail on the east side of deck for cuppas or drinks.
Totally chuffed how it all turned out. Frogs have already made their homes. AW

Most if the vegetation is local to the area, there’s some natives from other states that do well over here.
The weeping apricot tree was already in existence, I simply had to include it in design.

Building is not difficult, everything revolves around a horizontal or vertical surface, it’s how you go up or down from a horizontal surface and it’s how you go left or right of a perpendicular surface.
Once you understand basic principles its really satisfying when you can produce work you can charge for.AW

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 9:07pm
Jelly Flater wrote:

- building sturf
… lovely sturf AW ;)

JF. Hi mate, Not bad, not bad at all. AW

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 9:18pm

For those with a keen eye on design, if you look very closely, well taught principles from decades ago stick in ya head.
The house is the dominant feature, it’s your castle, you’re not moving it, so everything you do to it today should be in keeping with what’s on site.
Don’t create an unnecessary eye sore, simply don’t introduce new materials that are in complete aesthetic conflict with the house.
Our peripheral vision or cone of vision is approximately 60 degrees, it’s what fits in that vision that pleases us.
You’ll see in the photos the red brick edging installed matches the red bricks at ground level of the house walls. The pergola posts are painted with clear finish so the yellowish colour tones fit in with the dominant house brickwork and lastly the pergola rafters , roof and flashings are all white like the house eaves, gutters and windows.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think it looks great for a house built in 1956, retained its old charm with a modern addition commensurate with each other. AW

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blackers Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 9:34pm
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blackers wrote:

Nice work AW. Shame about the title (of the thread) or was that deliberate?

Blackers . Hi mate. I chose the name, I thought well, we’re all builders really and we surf.
I’m happy to change it. Give me a few ideas then please. AW

Oh it's fine, I was just hoping to catch you out making a spout-like typo. I do like Jelly's version tho if you want to change it.

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basesix Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 9:41pm

yeh, it's fucking great @AW.. love an honest house, me. A 50s house, with original wooden sash windows, unrendered bricks.. with people who want a style-sympathetic refuge out the back to breeeeaathe and suck a coffee... with frogs and birds and reptiles and eye catching cypress/wire definitions..

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adam12 Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 9:47pm

@AW, wow, great job. Some skill on show there for sure. Finished it looks great, and value adds to the property.
Hope this thread takes off.
Might have to get myself a phone camera and learn how to upload pics. I see some great trade skills on display all the time, and could definitely give some painting, decorating and resto skill tips I know, plus a few diy car service and repair tips I've picked up. Some good money savers.
Be interested to get a ball park on what you would charge a client, not a mate, for all that
Bet there's some happy frogs in that backyard now!

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 10:06pm
adam12 wrote:

@AW, wow, great job. Some skill on show there for sure. Finished it looks great, and value adds to the property.
Hope this thread takes off.
Might have to get myself a phone camera and learn how to upload pics. I see some great trade skills on display all the time, and could definitely give some painting, decorating and resto skill tips I know, plus a few diy car service and repair tips I've picked up. Some good money savers.
Be interested to get a ball park on what you would charge a client, not a mate, for all that
Bet there's some happy frogs in that backyard now!

Adam12. Hi pal. Thanks for your kind words.
You kind of started it last week with your great discussion about trades etc.
I’d mentioned it to B6 and Seeds that I was going to start this thread. Like Botany Nerds Ahoy, I’m not a quitter, it will go on for quite awhile, because it’s relevant, it’s part of every day living.
When you look across all threads on SWN, inadvertently there is always questions about trade stuff.
Last year I gutted three quarters of the house in the photos, entirely new kitchen, laundry, toilet , bathroom, shower and spa.
The great thing about being a landscaper is all your skills are transferable across a whole host of other trades.
I’m happy to talk about regulations, permits, materials specifications , mistakes, successes etc. it’s all a learning curve.

Ultimately, we are blokes and we like to build stuff, it’s caveman mentality, I get jumpy after a while if I’m not creative with my brain and hands.

Nothing is difficult to build and there is no such thing as a massive job, it’s simply a multiplicity of small tasks, do them in they right order and you’ll achieve excellent results, dont be arrogant and stubborn, ask others if you are unsure, that’s how you learn.
I’m hoping we get plenty of interest and see some great work by others.
If it’s slow to start I’ll keep posting, I’ve always photographed my work, it makes for a good portfolio to show clients. I’ve got well paid painting work for you in Geelong mid February if you’re interested, I always pay people what they are worth. I’m doing an en suite and a separate bathroom. All the best.

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 10:16pm
basesix wrote:

yeh, it's fucking great @AW.. love an honest house, me. A 50s house, with original wooden sash windows, unrendered bricks.. with people who want a style-sympathetic refuge out the back to breeeeaathe and suck a coffee... with frogs and birds and reptiles and eye catching cypress/wire definitions..

Basesix. Hi mate. That house was built by E.J.Lyons & Sons in Geelong in 1956, my client was born in it and has been there all his life. Parents died young.
It is so well built, rock solid, they certainly don’t build them like that anymore.

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AlfredWallace Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 10:15pm
adam12 wrote:

@AW, wow, great job. Some skill on show there for sure. Finished it looks great, and value adds to the property.
Hope this thread takes off.
Might have to get myself a phone camera and learn how to upload pics. I see some great trade skills on display all the time, and could definitely give some painting, decorating and resto skill tips I know, plus a few diy car service and repair tips I've picked up. Some good money savers.
Be interested to get a ball park on what you would charge a client, not a mate, for all that
Bet there's some happy frogs in that backyard now!

Adam12. Thanks for asking about the cost. I always use to let my crew of guys know the project worth, they felt included and that transfers into their skill appreciation of what they are building. Hiding how much money you are making is a mistake, you should inspire junior burgers to become self employed by making them aware of all facets of a project, not just the hard landscape but the business of things also.
First stage reroofing and partially refurbishing the existing pergola, removing all the old fucked deck, new deck and new roofed pergola $15.5K.
Second stage the pond and landscape and fencing $16K. AW

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adam12 Monday, 25 Nov 2024 at 11:27pm

@Aw, thanks for that, you are right about letting the boys know about prices, helps young guys get an appreciation of the business side and getting them thinking along those lines can definitely inspire them to make a go of it on their own. That price sounds great for the result and considering it's added a fortune to the house value
Definitely let me know about that Geelong job, I'll be back home by Australia Day and looking for some work locally and would love to put a beautiful finish on your work for you, the money is not an issue, getting a smile out of and meeting in the flesh @AW would be worth it for me, so let me know for sure.
And you are right about how your skill set transfers across trades. My brother is a great example of that, has all sorts of skills and has worked a number of trades, and bloody good at all of them, been like that his whole life.
When we were kids they built a house next door and we would pinch materials and my brother built a two story hut in our backyard, on footings, brick fireplace with flue, underlay and carpeted throughout, with an extension, bunk beds, trapdoors, corro roof, upstairs sun deck. Could sleep about a dozen kids.
He was twelve at the time.
But I digress, again.
Great thread I reckon.