COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Stok wrote:Lol, it's you nutjobs who love saying how mild it is, how it's essentially a common cold.
Maybe, just maybe, because of the extent of vaccination we're seeing generally lower viral loads being transmitted and overall a more mild experience FOR EVERYONE! yes, even anti vaxxers, who are, I dunno, enjoying other people's sacrifices? Never said it stops transmission, or reduces number of cases.
Not saying I'm right, but I'm happy to call that common sense in my books.
Mate…it’s time to drop the “vaccine hallelujah “ routine.
Omicold is mild because….Omicold is mild.
It has nothing to do with the vaccines.
Stok…bloke is used when you're getting to him, Sicko, when he gets triggered. F**k and c**t when he throws his toys.
Snowflake, nearly as entertaining as the tennis.
Stok wrote:BD, one thing you need to learn is, not everything has to make logical sense to you personally. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who knows? I'm sure they'll track it somewhere for monitoring purposes. Really doesn't matter. People with appropriate expertise and experience are making those decisions.
Definitely the shittest answer ever. For someone with so much self proclaimed knowledge....the best you can come up with is..'not everything has to make logical sense to you. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who know?'. Geez cheers Stok. I'm glad you chirped in. Whether your pro or anti or inbetween vax, i reckon this is a fairly moderate question with no bias on either side. An 'who know's' doesn't really sit comfortably with me and makes me also question your agenda.
Ok - question for the anti vaxxers, what do you trust the government with?
Your personal information?
Your education?
Your food security?
Your right to an impartial trial via the courts?
Medicare?
Or, do you only distrust them when they start talking in areas like vaccination? Which spurs deep, old fears and feelings of anxiety due to needles....and poison....and whatever else stresses you crew out about something which we've been doing for decades.
BD, I'm an academic myself, just in a different field. I'm aware of the Dunning Kruger effect, and you should familiarise yourself with this.
Not knowing everything, and listening to experts, is a pretty fundamental thing.
Roadkill wrote:Stok…bloke is used when you're getting to him, Sicko, when he gets triggered. F**k and c**t when he throws his toys.
Snowflake, nearly as entertaining as the tennis.
Come on bloke, you’re routinely the stupidest person on these threads. VIC local is insane, Stok is mislead but you’re just everyday , garden variety stupid.
You don’t think anyone has noticed that you’ve never contributed a single coherent thought or fact about covid in your 3656899 comments about covid?
Come on bloke. Only you’re stupid enough to believe that.
But go ahead and post more brainless rubbish about triggers and snowflakes, which everyone but yourself knows is something you’d hear shouted out the window of the special bus. You do enjoy it so.
Stok wrote:Ok - question for the anti vaxxers, what do you trust the government with?
Your personal information?
Your education?
Your food security?
Your right to an impartial trial via the courts?
Medicare?Or, do you only distrust them when they start talking in areas like vaccination? Which spurs deep, old fears and feelings of anxiety due to needles....and poison....and whatever else stresses you crew out about something which we've been doing for decades.
I don’t trust them with any of the above. Nor should you. The government is reckless and cavalier with your life.
Fellas, i gave you two outs. I offered you the Swellnet paying you option, which was vehemently, and rather quickly denied by bermalthen, and then, i offered you the allignment with a political party, which would make much more sense, and give you an easy out.
But as such, it stands, that you both live in a self created dungeon of fear and self righteousness with an unwavering dedication to be right and tear others down that don't agree with your single minded purist vision.
Fellas, there's rabbit holes, and then there's dungeons. The time you put into these threads is definitely somewhere deep in the dungeon. Might not hurt to let yourselves be free.
Vic Local wrote:Roadkill wrote:Vic Local wrote:Roadkill wrote:VL, are you paid by Bill Gates or Zuckaberg? Or Pfizer?
Truth to tell, bd. I can’t lie to you mate. The Rothschilds pay me.
New world brah. You're either in or out.
I'm on Pfizer's and Zuckerberg's payroll, and while SN don't give me any cash, they do sling me a couple of pairs of boardies and a wetsuit every 6 months. BTW Craig, Ben and Stu, your instalment is late. Sling me a few blocks of wax and all is forgiven.
WTF…SN billed my credit card last week.
I want some boardies!
Not going to happen roadkill. Your subscription pays for my surf gear. Thanks.
Stok wrote:Ok - question for the anti vaxxers, what do you trust the government with?
Your personal information?
Your education?
Your food security?
Your right to an impartial trial via the courts?
Medicare?Or, do you only distrust them when they start talking in areas like vaccination? Which spurs deep, old fears and feelings of anxiety due to needles....and poison....and whatever else stresses you crew out about something which we've been doing for decades.
Stok , there are many who aren’t anti -vax , they are simply very weary of mRNA which we haven’t been injecting into people for decades . To say people are anti- vax because they are afraid of needles is a bit lame . On Dr Malone being a fringe scientist when it comes to mRNA is also questionable , the challenge has been put out to any of the 270 “ doctors “ that signed a petition demanding spotify remove the rogan podcast https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/an-open-debate-challenge-to-the-270?r... I’ve said before that I’m sceptical of some of the things Dr Malone has stated but would love to see someone challenge him .
bluediamond wrote:Vic Local wrote:BD: Posts anti-vax cult / covid denial rubbish and then demands answers to idiotic questions.
Others: Ignore the clown.
BD: Cracks the shits.
Oh it's good for a laugh isn't it.If you'd like to point out to me exactly where i 'cracked the shits' that would be good for a laugh too. Thanks VL. Floor is yours.
"Answer the damn question" is cracking the shits.
Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:Stok…bloke is used when you're getting to him, Sicko, when he gets triggered. F**k and c**t when he throws his toys.
Snowflake, nearly as entertaining as the tennis.
Come on bloke, you’re routinely the stupidest person on these threads. VIC local is insane, Stok is mislead but you’re just everyday , garden variety stupid.
You don’t think anyone has noticed that you’ve never contributed a single coherent thought or fact about covid in your 3656899 comments about covid?
Come on bloke. Only you’re stupid enough to believe that.
But go ahead and post more brainless rubbish about triggers and snowflakes, which everyone but yourself knows is something you’d hear shouted out the window of the special bus. You do enjoy it so.
Well, it’s good to be best at something.
Behold the anti-vax whackos in all their glory. Here's a group of them pretending to be veterans at the Brisbane rally yesterday. Bog standard khakis available at BCF, footwear including work boots and running shoes, random hats, and the world's most laughable attempt at marching in formation. Two of them forgot to bring their pants FFS!!
It's all getting a little silly isn't it.
Uniformed conspiracists?
— Anonykatz (@Anonykatz1) January 22, 2022
Group claiming to be veterans marching in a freedom rally in Brisbane yesterday. @BTheorists @krunchymoses @CelerySorbet @ThoughtlessDeed pic.twitter.com/jZlLoYX9zZ
Vic Local wrote:bluediamond wrote:Vic Local wrote:BD: Posts anti-vax cult / covid denial rubbish and then demands answers to idiotic questions.
Others: Ignore the clown.
BD: Cracks the shits.
Oh it's good for a laugh isn't it.If you'd like to point out to me exactly where i 'cracked the shits' that would be good for a laugh too. Thanks VL. Floor is yours.
"Answer the damn question" is cracking the shits.
Are you for real?
saltyone wrote:Hi gromfull how are you feeling now? What symptoms?
OK saltyone I'll give you my symptom time line
14/1, tickle in back of throat, didn't think anything of it becuase I swallowed a mouthfuls of filty river water pushing my 10 yr old into waves
15/1, it afternoon started to feel like shit, up all night coughing body aches, that's when I thought covid becuase that's how I felt after my first jabby jabber , I thought I've felt like this before
16/1 go and get tested, both me and my son, coughing badly all day full body aches
17/1 results in, me positive son negative, but becuase he is a close contact he has to isolate as well
18/1, body aches reduced coughing easing
19/1, son wakes up full fever high temp , throwing up, was inevitable, just the two of us with me preparing meals, trying to stay separate but impossible to achieve, he is not vaccinated and never will be with these useless jabs, by the afternoon he has stopped throwing up temp coming down and sleeping alot
By the end of the next day he is pretty much over it, back to his normal self
Me not so, cough slowly going but get fatigued easily, sleeping alot,
21/1 just the odd random cough back to normal really except for the odd cough and feeling a bit chesty flu like,
Get another test go home carry on as usual but isolating
22/1, son back to normal has been for a couple of days, me just that lingering odd cough and heavy chest
Results back, son positive, me positive, so iso we stay
I have no idea who I caught it off, but was from someone at work, as do service work and generally see a few different clients a day, every work place I attended has at some point had positive cases, everyone I had contact with is double jabby jabbed, so the useless vaccine of doing it to protect the community, fark off how did that protect me, spread by the vaxxed and caught by being vaxxed,
8 days now and it just lingers,
Son 24 hrs and flicked all symptoms, fit little shit he is,
@gromfull , hope you recover soon and no lingering symptoms. Be nice to know if you have omicron or delta when you first test positive.
Stok wrote:BD, one thing you need to learn is, not everything has to make logical sense to you personally. Why are they stopping the reporting of covid deaths? Who knows? I'm sure they'll track it somewhere for monitoring purposes. Really doesn't matter. People with appropriate expertise and experience are making those decisions.
Accepting or indeed embracing the uncertainty and not-knowing of life is good and very wise advice. The rest of what you said is just naive, simplistic, blind and too black-and-white.
Those decision makers you have blind faith in are not so experienced or the experts you believe they are.
There’s people in the private sector with far more expertise and experience getting paid 5 times more as a result. Many of these higher level experts in the private sector openly, publicly disagree with the decisions being made, on very valid and solid grounds.
These decision makers are also only human and subject to error.
They also operate within and have to follow the rules of questionable and oftentimes flawed and even nonexistent government decision making institutions, frameworks and processes. We see the poor outcomes of governmental institutions and frameworks in all kinds of areas in society, and there’s no reason to think medical and health decision making institutions are an exception.
These decision makers are also subject to human temptation and potential corruption and cronyism.
They also potentially have personal and professional conflicts of interest such as personal and close family commercial interests, positions on boards of private sector companies, investments in say managed funds and ETFs that hold biotech and vaccine companies, etc.
The list is longer than this.
Government decision making across all sectors is largely just characterised by grey area. People have every reason to question all aspects of it.
I’d suggest that the above - the uncertainty and grey area - and the lack of transparency and public consultation is driving a lot of the lack of trust that we’re seeing with covid and vaccines etc being expressed out there in the real world and in these forums.
Things are never as they seem or black-and-white.
Blowin wrote:I don’t trust them with any of the above. Nor should you. The government is reckless and cavalier with your life.
You're a keyboard warrior pal, thru and thru.
Very easy to criticise and state how little trust these institutions deserve, yet live with the comfort and luxuries provided on the day to day this country provides.
What's your solution? you got a better idea? An execution plan? Do you have a team of completely competent, loyal followers who'll hang on your every word and won't misinterpret or wrongly deliver your vision?
If you do, you'd be best off spending time working towards delivering the utopia we all deserve, than arguing with us on Swellnet ;)
NSW 1st Jan - 8th Jan ( Aged 20 y/o >)
93.6% Vaxed = 234, 495 or 98.92% Infections ( 5.7% above group rate) 11.4 more than No Vax.
Meaning Full Vaxed are spreading 11.4% above the natural Virus rate. (Promoting Covid > Death)
NSW Vax is currently spreading an extra 27, 023 infections = # Hospitalizations > ICU's > Deaths?
Mandated 100% Vax Age care staff = current week 98% infection = 2% staff to push Oz Grandmas!
Daggy Dad ups his Aged Care bar graphs to 70, 000 / day ...(Could be per minute!) see UK (next)
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/collections/covid-19-outbreaks-in-au...
Experts Mega charts for upcoming Mass Booster infections ..while fooling fools that Vax reduces Covid?
Vaxed Hospital admissions / deaths are soaring above Vax rate...More! Is the cry...More Vax Crisis!
EU / US travel bans for High Risk Danger Zone (That's us!) Mandated Hellhole of the Pacific!
Scomo waits until we score WR voc spikes to infect the Globe! [ Travel World Says No more Aussies ]
World says : Cases/m (Too High) RAT Plague was too little too late.
Australia has begun shifting Australia Day to neighbourly Vax free Covid free PNG...all good!
That's if China will stamp our Visas...
China : 'We hot wired the Volcano to fire up yer new NBN Pacific Link!'
Welcome to Oz Booster future...(Warning!) Double Mass Vax Trouble lies Ahead...Steer Clear!
UK 26th Dec 2021 > 16th Jan 2022 ( Infections 18y/o >)
UK Vaccinated are boosting infections 41.62% above natural virus rate
Unvaxed Population = 31.81%
Unvaxed = 285, 948 infections or 11% (20.81% less than pop -Mopping up Covid with innate immunity)
Vaccinated Population = (1,2,3) 68.19%
Vaxed = 2,131, 133 infections or 89% (20.81% above neutral- due to suppressed innate immunity)
Vaccinated are spreading 41.62% above "Current declining Covid rate".(As shown by neutral no vax!)
UK Vax is currently spiking an extra 1, 005, 989 infections = # Hospital > ICU > Deaths?
Choose one or all Mass Vax Killing Machine Spike weapons.
1 dose > 3wks = 13, 425 infections
1 dose + 3wks = 87, 535 infections
2 doses = 1, 095, 258 infections
Boosters = 943, 915 infections
1/2/3 Doses = 2, 131, 133 infections
All Hail VIP Vax! Do the Right Thing for yer Community... Kill Kill Kill.
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surve...
gsco wrote:Accepting or indeed embracing the uncertainty and not-knowing of life is good and very wise advice. The rest of what you said is just naive, simplistic, blind and too black-and-white.
Those decision makers you have blind faith in are not so experienced or the experts you believe they are.
There’s people in the private sector with far more expertise and experience getting paid 5 times more as a result. Many of these higher level experts in the private sector openly, publicly disagree with the decisions being made, on very valid and solid grounds.
These decision makers are also only human and subject to error.
They also operate within and have to follow the rules of questionable and oftentimes flawed and even nonexistent government decision making institutions, frameworks and processes. We see the poor outcomes of governmental institutions and frameworks in all kinds of areas in society, and there’s no reason to think medical and health decision making institutions are an exception.
These decision makers are also subject to human temptation and potential corruption and cronyism.
They also potentially have personal and professional conflicts of interest such as personal and close family commercial interests, positions on boards of private sector companies, investments in say managed funds and ETFs that hold biotech and vaccine companies, etc.
The list is longer than this.
Government decision making across all sectors is largely just characterised by grey area. People have every reason to question all aspects of it.
I’d suggest that the above - the uncertainty and grey area - and the lack of transparency and public consultation is driving a lot of the lack of trust that we’re seeing with covid and vaccines etc being expressed out there in the real world and in these forums.
Things are never as they seem or black-and-white.
I pretty much wholly agree with you GSCO, except I wouldn't overrate the private sector in their abilities or the questions they ask of the Government. I work in the private sector, and it's very much so full of incompetence, and the general ethos is that 'pressure the government to do what's best for the company'.
I would like to say that if we were to replace all the experts in the world, with people who felt they knew better (qualified or not), we'd be in the a similar spot regarding flawed logic, corruption, incompetence and ad leadership - just way, way worse off.
The fundamental misunderstanding with covid is it is a grey area, and the experts and people in charge are really struggling to get this right - but it's the side-lined contrarians, fringe dwellers who're vocally herding the masses by grifting and selling them hopes and dreams. They're the ones not taking accountability for the shit they're doing and spreading.
Well said gsco , it amazes me how easily some except government decisions that they say are based on the health experts advice. I’m also amazed at how excepting people are of the contracts between pharma and government not being publicly displayed as well as data from the trials. The lack of transparency and the ‘ just trust the experts’ is all a bit strange .
Supafreak wrote:@gromfull , hope you recover soon and no lingering symptoms. Be nice to know if you have omicron or delta when you first test positive.
OK superfreaky that was one of the first questions I asked my doctor, becuase that info was not provided in the messages from NSW Health, he said they don't give that info out, well why the fuck not, again Red flag, what purpose is there in not providing that info to the patient, wish I never received the jabbyjab now
What a load of rubbish.
There's two reasons why there's no grand conspiracy going on with covid / vaccines / lockdowns
1. There's absolutely nothing to gain for government to inject a vaccine that's useless, misrepresent the stats, or impose lockdowns.
2. Governments have zero chance of getting away with it with so many medical experts paying close attention to this situation.
Ask yourselves this. Why would any government deliberately trash their economy, and introduce lockdowns for a virus that is "just like the flu"? Why the fuck would any government launch the biggest public health initiative in history if the vaccine didn't work?
Yes covid is shit, but there's no grand worldwide conspiracy here. Time to put on your big boy pants blokes and accept reality, rather than look for simple answers to complex problems on Youtube.
Vic Local wrote:What a load of rubbish.
There's two reasons why there's no grand conspiracy going on with covid / vaccines / lockdowns
1. There's absolutely nothing to gain for government to inject a vaccine that's useless, misrepresent the stats, or impose lockdowns.
2. Governments have zero chance of getting away with it with so many medical experts paying close attention to this situation.
Ask yourselves this. Why would any government deliberately trash their economy, and introduce lockdowns for a virus that is "just like the flu"? Why the fuck would any government launch the biggest public health initiative in history if the vaccine didn't work?
Yes covid is shit, but there's no grand worldwide conspiracy here. Time to put on your big boy pants blokes and accept reality, rather than look for simple answers to complex problems on Youtube.
The stats have been hugely misrepresented from the beginning. What is unclear about this?
1. Some very rich people have a lot to gain from doing this. Get you’re head out of your own ass and look around
2. You’re right, the only way they get away with it is with zombie obedience from the likes of yourself, roadkill and Stok. Lucky there are people including very respected doctors standing up, unfortunately you won’t find them on MSM, so you will just write them off.
Your vaccine doesn’t work, you were told it would stop transmission, it will protect your community, your loved ones.
Who the fuck knows why governments want to jab a third dose in your arm when the first two didn’t work. Maybe they ordered enough poison to jab the population 8 times over.
Fuck they even ordered 51 million doses of novavax just in case.
Why have the government mandates stayed in place for 2 dose victims when it does fuck all?
VL i'd wager all of the questions you've asked above have been answered numerous times on here, but you simply refuse to bat an eyelid at any evidence people put up, writing it all off as 'conspiracy theorist antivaxxer bullshit'. Why would anyone bother trying to convince a lunatic like you??
Nice to see you are looking after your cat too burleigh.
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:What a load of rubbish.
There's two reasons why there's no grand conspiracy going on with covid / vaccines / lockdowns
1. There's absolutely nothing to gain for government to inject a vaccine that's useless, misrepresent the stats, or impose lockdowns.
2. Governments have zero chance of getting away with it with so many medical experts paying close attention to this situation.
Ask yourselves this. Why would any government deliberately trash their economy, and introduce lockdowns for a virus that is "just like the flu"? Why the fuck would any government launch the biggest public health initiative in history if the vaccine didn't work?
Yes covid is shit, but there's no grand worldwide conspiracy here. Time to put on your big boy pants blokes and accept reality, rather than look for simple answers to complex problems on Youtube.The stats have been hugely misrepresented from the beginning. What is unclear about this?
1. Some very rich people have a lot to gain from doing this. Get you’re head out of your own ass and look around
2. You’re right, the only way they get away with it is with zombie obedience from the likes of yourself, roadkill and Stok. Lucky there are people including very respected doctors standing up, unfortunately you won’t find them on MSM, so you will just write them off.
Your vaccine doesn’t work, you were told it would stop transmission, it will protect your community, your loved ones.
Who the fuck knows why governments want to jab a third dose in your arm when the first two didn’t work. Maybe they ordered enough poison to jab the population 8 times over.
Fuck they even ordered 51 million doses of novavax just in case.
Why have the government mandates stayed in place for 2 dose victims when it does fuck all?
Nailed it Burleigh.
burleigh wrote:The stats have been hugely misrepresented from the beginning. What is unclear about this?
1. Some very rich people have a lot to gain from doing this. Get you’re head out of your own ass and look around
2. You’re right, the only way they get away with it is with zombie obedience from the likes of yourself, roadkill and Stok. Lucky there are people including very respected doctors standing up, unfortunately you won’t find them on MSM, so you will just write them off.
Your vaccine doesn’t work, you were told it would stop transmission, it will protect your community, your loved ones.
Who the fuck knows why governments want to jab a third dose in your arm when the first two didn’t work. Maybe they ordered enough poison to jab the population 8 times over.
Fuck they even ordered 51 million doses of novavax just in case.
Why have the government mandates stayed in place for 2 dose victims when it does fuck all?
Burleigh, do you believe in chemtrails by any chance?
"Nailed it Burleigh."
Haaaaaa Haaaaaaa,
burleigh's response was just a stream of illogical statements and pure bullshit. Sure it may have impressed the other tin foil hat wearing crackpots, but that doesn't make any of it true.
Fuck I genuinely hope you blokes are shitfaced drunk and posting this rubbish for a laugh. If you're sober and seriously that's truly fucked up.
"Burleigh, do you believe in chemtrails by any chance?"
I want to know if burleigh thinks the moon landing was staged and his opinion about the Tel Aviv bunker which is the NWO's head office.
Stok wrote:burleigh wrote:The stats have been hugely misrepresented from the beginning. What is unclear about this?
1. Some very rich people have a lot to gain from doing this. Get you’re head out of your own ass and look around
2. You’re right, the only way they get away with it is with zombie obedience from the likes of yourself, roadkill and Stok. Lucky there are people including very respected doctors standing up, unfortunately you won’t find them on MSM, so you will just write them off.
Your vaccine doesn’t work, you were told it would stop transmission, it will protect your community, your loved ones.
Who the fuck knows why governments want to jab a third dose in your arm when the first two didn’t work. Maybe they ordered enough poison to jab the population 8 times over.
Fuck they even ordered 51 million doses of novavax just in case.
Why have the government mandates stayed in place for 2 dose victims when it does fuck all?
Burleigh, do you believe in chemtrails by any chance?
Contrails are real, it's just water vapour and some exhaust.
Then there's chaff:
"Chaff is a radar countermeasure in which aircraft or other targets spread a cloud of small, thin pieces of aluminium, metallized glass fibre or plastic, which either appears as a cluster of primary targets on radar screens or swamps the screen with multiple returns."
It's quite common to see chaff on the weather radars in SE Qld and Nth nsw. There's no cover-up, the military / air force confirm they're doing it if asked, but no-one really knows about it so no one ever asks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure)
Vic Local wrote:"Nailed it Burleigh."
Haaaaaa Haaaaaaa,
burleigh's response was just a stream of illogical statements and pure bullshit. Sure it may have impressed the other tin foil hat wearing crackpots, but that doesn't make any of it true.
Fuck I genuinely hope you blokes are shitfaced drunk and posting this rubbish for a laugh. If you're sober and seriously that's truly fucked up.
Might be time for nigh nighs VL. Reading back its clear you've had a bit of a shocker on here tonight. Sweet dreams princess.
Vic Local wrote:Behold the anti-vax whackos in all their glory. Here's a group of them pretending to be veterans at the Brisbane rally yesterday. Bog standard khakis available at BCF, footwear including work boots and running shoes, random hats, and the world's most laughable attempt at marching in formation. Two of them forgot to bring their pants FFS!!
It's all getting a little silly isn't it.
https://twitter.com/Anonykatz1/status/1485026523677868032?s=20
Fark me that hilarious. And there's like 15 of them lol.
Jeez that supposed millions march stuff we saw last year really, predictably, lost steam didn't it. Now it's boiled down to the weirdest of the weird....the only ones left who didn't fold like a deck chair as soon as they flimsy beliefs were tested by harsh realities....and it's not exactly a bunch of 'go getters'.
Also had to have a final laugh about Supa's comment re. Malone. He's apparently challenged doctors to come back and debate him, after his world tour of meeting with and speaking for straight out anti vax propagandists. Speaks volumes when no one with any level of self respect wants to engage with you, and your left with deafening silence. The small minded would take that as a victory, whereas the adults will find it hilarious.
So according to stok Dr Malone is a anti- vaxer , that’s a very interesting knowledgeable comment .
“This [pandemic] is going to be remembered by the younger generation as a catastrophic moral crime." -@BariWeiss pic.twitter.com/yccNbqZObj
— Bill Maher (@billmaher) January 22, 2022
The end is nigh.
What happens in three months when booster no 1 fades?
https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/23/nhs-staff-throw-scrubs-at-downing-street-...
https://news.yahoo.com/am-done-masks-weve-idiotic-100010292.html
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/powerful-professional-cycling-c...
He won't be getting sacked.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-12/pfizer-ceo-bourla-s-p...
Supafreak wrote:So according to stok Dr Malone is a anti- vaxer , that’s a very interesting knowledgeable comment .
Supa, if he had any real respect for his position and field, he wouldn't have gone on an Joe Rogan to begin with. Joe is not the type of interviewer to challenge and pry, he's an entertainer.
So yes, the fact that he uses questionable platforms to discredit mrna vaccines, is why I labelled him an anti vaxxer.
Of course, I'm no expert, just someone talking shit on a surf forum :)
Stok wrote:Supafreak wrote:So according to stok Dr Malone is a anti- vaxer , that’s a very interesting knowledgeable comment .
Supa, if he had any real respect for his position and field, he wouldn't have gone on an Joe Rogan to begin with. Joe is not the type of interviewer to challenge and pry, he's an entertainer.
So yes, the fact that he uses questionable platforms to discredit mrna vaccines, is why I labelled him an anti vaxxer.
Of course, I'm no expert, just someone talking shit on a surf forum :)
Questionable platforms? Rogan has one of the biggest reaches out of ANYONE
You keep being a good obedient doggy Stok. Good boy. Here’s a booster of the same shit that didn’t work
"Questionable platforms? Rogan has one of the biggest reaches out of ANYONE."
That doesn't make him right burleigh. That doesn't make him an authoritative well- trained medical professional. That just means he's a popular bullshit artist, unlike you who is an unpopular bullshit artist.
Stok wrote:Supafreak wrote:So according to stok Dr Malone is a anti- vaxer , that’s a very interesting knowledgeable comment .
Supa, if he had any real respect for his position and field, he wouldn't have gone on an Joe Rogan to begin with. Joe is not the type of interviewer to challenge and pry, he's an entertainer.
So yes, the fact that he uses questionable platforms to discredit mrna vaccines, is why I labelled him an anti vaxxer.
Of course, I'm no expert, just someone talking shit on a surf forum :)
Joe clearly has a bias on covid vaccines
But you obviously havent listed to Joe Rogan if you think he doesn't challenge and pry, he sure does, but he is also respectful of others views and allows them to talk and doesn't shut them down and gives them plenty of time to explain things and its all unedited, so no deception of trying to paint guest in a certain light like much of the mainstream press.
Vic Local wrote:"Questionable platforms? Rogan has one of the biggest reaches out of ANYONE."
That doesn't make him right burleigh. That doesn't make him an authoritative well- trained medical professional. That just means he's a popular bullshit artist, unlike you who is an unpopular bullshit artist.
If you live in a glass house, don’t throw rocks Vic.
You jab junkies have seriously lost the plot, you’re wives must love it though. You seem to enjoy being told what to do, makes life easier right?
Rogan gives a platform for trained professionals to reach millions of people that they wouldn’t have been able to reach through the usual channels.
Rogan's trained professional Dr Malone is a fucking joke. If you didn't have shit for brains you'd know this.
Vic Local wrote:Rogan's trained professional Dr Malone is a fucking joke. If you didn't have shit for brains you'd know this.
I disagree, however he’s had a lot more professionals on his podcast than that.
Don’t tell me you have another uneducated opinion on something you haven’t listened to
Can anyone actually answer this question? (cause i dont have the answer)
People like Dr Malone & Dr Peter McCullough etc are undoubtably very smart people and very knowledgeable in their fields, they aren't just some blow in conspiracy theorist or uneducated in these areas.
So why do they take the views they have????
Whats in it for them????
I honestly just dont get it in this case, but im also not buying a lot of what they selling either.
There has been similar Climate scientist etc that have questioned things generally retired, but its easy to write them off as paid by fossil fuel companies etc, but in the case of Covid Vaccines, there doesn't seem to be the same explanation.
Haven’t watched ( listened ) to all of this yet but this is a really good conversation between two pro vaccine well known doctors.
But its on YouTube so it’s obviously garbage according to the residential guru on anything and everything. indo-dreaming wrote:Can anyone actually answer this question? (cause i dont have the answer)
People like Dr Malone & Dr Peter McCullough etc are undoubtably very smart people and very knowledgeable in their fields, they aren't just some blow in conspiracy theorist or uneducated in these areas.
So why do they take the views they have????
Whats in it for them????
I honestly just dont get it in this case, but im also not buying a lot of what they selling either.
There has been similar Climate scientist etc that have questioned things generally retired, but its easy to write them off as paid by fossil fuel companies etc, but in the case of Covid Vaccines, there doesn't seem to be the same explanation.
It’s a good question indo , what’s in it for them ? McCullough had a good career and was on a heap of different committees , Malone was headed for retirement and could have warn the badge of playing a major role in the development of mRNA technology but instead their careers are in question and McCullough legal costs are going to be huge . Why ? What drives them to take this path ? What’s the payoff ? I’m sure our resident Dr has the answers.
Supafreak wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Can anyone actually answer this question? (cause i dont have the answer)
People like Dr Malone & Dr Peter McCullough etc are undoubtably very smart people and very knowledgeable in their fields, they aren't just some blow in conspiracy theorist or uneducated in these areas.
So why do they take the views they have????
Whats in it for them????
I honestly just dont get it in this case, but im also not buying a lot of what they selling either.
There has been similar Climate scientist etc that have questioned things generally retired, but its easy to write them off as paid by fossil fuel companies etc, but in the case of Covid Vaccines, there doesn't seem to be the same explanation.
It’s a good question indo , what’s in it for them ? McCullough had a good career and was on a heap of different committees , Malone was headed for retirement and could have warn the badge of playing a major role in the development of mRNA technology but instead their careers are in question and McCullough legal costs are going to be huge . Why ? What drives them to take this path ? What’s the payoff ? I’m sure our resident Dr has the answers.
It seems weird.
Do they make money from it all that they otherwise wouldn't???
Or is it for some type of fame?
But then again among many it would have ruined their reputations and i doubt they are in any real need of money.
Or do they really believe what they say???
It just seems it would be easier for them to just remain silent, which makes you think maybe there is others with qualifications that share similar views that have remained silent.
Did you blokes miss the 1000+ highly respected experts calling for the podcast to be pulled for covid misinformation? One of them even called Rogan a menace to public health. Malone is a fantasists and conspiracy theorist. Burleigh, it takes a special brand of stupid to fall for the crap Malone and Rogan are selling.
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/21/1074442185/joe-rogan-doctor-covid-podcast...
Re: the link above -
"We're not talking about fringe ideas," she said. "These are the most popular podcasts in the United States."
The post-truth genie is so far out of the bottle, it's never going back in.
And/or, we're regressing to pre-Enlightenment values.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia