COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
burleigh wrote:Novak Djokovic has won. Does this set a new precedent for employment?
Especially with just HOW many people have covid right now.
This is a huge win and a big fuck you to our power tripping corrupt government.
Had covid? No need for a booster or any covid vax for 6 months I would presume
yep I think it does. it was pretty hard to swallow watching all the mega rich, connected and sports starts circumnavigate any lockdown, state and international borders pre vax but this is next level a slap in the face to us mere mortals who have agreed to or have been practically forced to follow the rules.
there is no way you can reason or justify that decision given the opposite rules for everyone else. zilch.
Please , anyone correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Novak had covid twice now ? What would be the point of getting vaccinated ? I’m not a fan of Novak or tennis for the record , couldn’t believe the government allowed the last Australian open to go ahead considering the circumstances.
Kids day today isn't it?
Decisions, decisions.
Seem to be talking age 12+ too.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1547050/covid-vaccine-JCVI-omicron-del...
More details of the claim here and
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/01/08/end-covid-vaccination-of-children-be...
aaron61 wrote:Kids day today isn't it?
Decisions, decisions.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1547050/covid-vaccine-JCVI-omicron-del...
The decision is easy. HELL NO
Supafreak wrote:Please , anyone correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Novak had covid twice now ? What would be the point of getting vaccinated ? I’m not a fan of Novak or tennis for the record , couldn’t believe the government allowed the last Australian open to go ahead considering the circumstances.
Because you can’t live without MRNA in your system now, forget about vegetables it’s all about a needle with an experiment inside every 3 - 4 months for the rest of your life
Let's make it clear that the judge ruled in Djokovic's favor because:
'Judge Kelly said the visa cancellation was unreasonable because:
Djokovic was told at 5.20am last Thursday morning that he could have until 8.30am to provide comments in response to the notice of intention to consider cancellation under section 116 of the Migration Act.
Djokovic’s comments were then sought at 6.14am instead and the Border Force official made the decision at 7.42am. “The applicant was thus denied until 8.30am to make some comments,” Judge Kelly said.
If Djokovic had until 8.30am, Judge Kelly said he could have consulted others and made submissions about why his visa should not be canceled.'
So in essence, the right process wasn't followed and Djokovic didn't get the right opportunity to defend himself.
monkeyboy wrote:Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
It isn't perfect..but it's the best we can do currently.
What would you suggest as the alternative?
To respect everyone's human right to choose. Some people are ok with dealing with the virus and this includes health professionals. This also means taking responsibility which means not going out and spreading it around - regardless of your vaccination status.
I am not anti vax but the hysteria and fear is ridiculous. Panadol and water - ffs.
So if the world followed your suggestion. Would we be better off now or worse off or in the same position?
Where would % of population vaxxed be at now?
We would be calm, care for each other and respect others' opinions and decisions.
It would be a big disaster…you are dreaming if you think this.
suchas wrote:Supafreak wrote:Novak visa revoked, turned around at airport .
From Oct 27th-
Prime Minister Scott Morrison suggested there could be flexibility on the inclusion of unvaccinated players.
Speaking on Nine's Today, Morrison said that "you just have to manage the public health risk. We talk about large numbers of people, obviously there is a smaller number of actual players," he said.
"It is nice to have clear and hard and fast rules, but there needs to be a little bit of flexibility so we can live with the virus."Scomo today-“Mr Djokovic’s visa has been cancelled. Rules are rules, especially when it comes to our borders. No one is above these rules. Our strong border policies have been critical to Australia having one of the lowest death rates in the world from COVID, we are continuing to be vigilant.”
** Novax appeal through courts to follow
Can’t wait to see how Smirko slides out of this one. Novax played by the rules and won in straight sets.
Does he play the blame game card or go all in and start a war with Serbia?
That was a long complicated post you put up earlier TBB but yes, in summary, it is interesting that the various health agencies in Australia recommend Ibuprofen.
I guess in their eyes there is not sufficient evidence to recommend anything else
suchas wrote:suchas wrote:Supafreak wrote:Novak visa revoked, turned around at airport .
From Oct 27th-
Prime Minister Scott Morrison suggested there could be flexibility on the inclusion of unvaccinated players.
Speaking on Nine's Today, Morrison said that "you just have to manage the public health risk. We talk about large numbers of people, obviously there is a smaller number of actual players," he said.
"It is nice to have clear and hard and fast rules, but there needs to be a little bit of flexibility so we can live with the virus."Scomo today-“Mr Djokovic’s visa has been cancelled. Rules are rules, especially when it comes to our borders. No one is above these rules. Our strong border policies have been critical to Australia having one of the lowest death rates in the world from COVID, we are continuing to be vigilant.”
** Novax appeal through courts to follow
Can’t wait to see how Smirko slides out of this one. Novax played by the rules and won in straight sets.
Does he play the blame game card or go all in and start a war with Serbia?
I'm tipping Scotty the Fuckwit takes the "unelected activist judges" route. He's quite simply the most incompetent clown ever to be PM. Yes, worse than Abbott.
This last week seals it. He's just had one brain fart after another at press conferences. He tells RAT positive people to report their status to GPs even though they are swamped and there's place to report new RAT cases. Then he says pharmacists will be handing out free RAT tests without any details. Every time this flog opens his mouth in a desperate attempt to get through a press conference, chaos follows. The fucker is just making shit up on the spot without consulting anyone. It's just pathetic.
I hope the minister uses her powers and revokes his visa…and kicks the antivax turd out. The fury would be hilarious.
Go the Joker lol
Vic Local wrote:suchas wrote:suchas wrote:Supafreak wrote:Novak visa revoked, turned around at airport .
From Oct 27th-
Prime Minister Scott Morrison suggested there could be flexibility on the inclusion of unvaccinated players.
Speaking on Nine's Today, Morrison said that "you just have to manage the public health risk. We talk about large numbers of people, obviously there is a smaller number of actual players," he said.
"It is nice to have clear and hard and fast rules, but there needs to be a little bit of flexibility so we can live with the virus."Scomo today-“Mr Djokovic’s visa has been cancelled. Rules are rules, especially when it comes to our borders. No one is above these rules. Our strong border policies have been critical to Australia having one of the lowest death rates in the world from COVID, we are continuing to be vigilant.”
** Novax appeal through courts to follow
Can’t wait to see how Smirko slides out of this one. Novax played by the rules and won in straight sets.
Does he play the blame game card or go all in and start a war with Serbia?I'm tipping Scotty the Fuckwit takes the "unelected activist judges" route. He's quite simply the most incompetent clown ever to be PM. Yes, worse than Abbott.
This last week seals it. He's just had one brain fart after another at press conferences. He tells RAT positive people to report their status to GPs even though they are swamped and there's place to report new RAT cases. Then he says pharmacists will be handing out free RAT tests without any details. Every time this flog opens his mouth in a desperate attempt to get through a press conference, chaos follows. The fucker is just making shit up on the spot without consulting anyone. It's just pathetic.
Most incompetent clown ever to be PM was Rudd.
Supafreak wrote:Please , anyone correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Novak had covid twice now ? What would be the point of getting vaccinated ? I’m not a fan of Novak or tennis for the record , couldn’t believe the government allowed the last Australian open to go ahead considering the circumstances.
That's what has been reported along with him being photographed following days after positive result attending public functions.
Immunity from infection generally lower than vaccine (seen this from a few sources) combine with vaccine is very high.
Just reading the interview transcript and I can clearly see why would the judge rule in Djokovic's favor. It's very interesting actually, here's a snippet:
INTERVIEWER: Ah yep, so I am just going to read out all of the information to
you and I’m going to give you a copy of this as well. So everything is in there. But
45 yeah, I have to go through this process and then the explanation you have given me, I
mean, you can give it to me after the timeframe which we give you. The 20 minutes
we have to give you.
DJOKOVIC: So you’re giving me legally 20 minutes to try to provide additional
50 information that I don’t have? At 4 o clock in the morning? I mean you kind of put
12
me in a very awkward position where at 4 in the morning I can’t call director of
Tennis Australia, I can’t engage with anybody from the Victorian state government
through Tennis Australia. I just you put me in a very uncomfortable position. I
don’t know what else can I tell you. I mean I-I-I-I everything that that they -- I was
5 asked to do is here.
INTERVIEWER: Yeah.
DJOKOVIC: And I wouldn’t be here sitting in front of you if I if I wasn’t complying
10 to all the rules and regulations set by your government. So I just -- I don’t know
what I I mean -- to me it is a little bit shocking that you are have -- that you are going
to give me the notice to cancel my visa based on what?
INTERVIEWER: Notice -- a notice to consider -- like, you know, this is [inaudible]
15 ---
DJOKOVIC: Yes but you’re telling me. You know, basically you’re putting me in a
position where what what I can do, what is my answer to that? You’re giving me 20
minutes to do what? I I tell you right away I have nothing else to tell you. If you
20 can, we wait for 8 in the morning and then I can call Tennis Australia and then we
can try and figure this out. But right now? They’re all sleepy, I don’t know. I mean
I just arrived at 1am, I don’t know what else I can do at this moment. So I really, I
know legally you’re following -- but it just doesn’t make any sense. I mean I have
done everything I possibly can. Right now I can call my agent. You -- you told me
25 not to use my phone, so I’m not communicating with anybody, no one knows what’s
going on - - -
INTERVIEWER: Mmhm.
30 DJOKOVIC: - - - We did everything we possibly can and just I really don’t know
what else I can tell you in this 20 minutes.
INTERVIEWER: Yep ok, so do you think this is not the right time to participate in
the interview? And you would be participating in an interview at a later stage? Is
35 that --
most epic publicity stunt of all time
I focus wrote:Supafreak wrote:Please , anyone correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Novak had covid twice now ? What would be the point of getting vaccinated ? I’m not a fan of Novak or tennis for the record , couldn’t believe the government allowed the last Australian open to go ahead considering the circumstances.
That's what has been reported along with him being photographed following days after positive result attending public functions.
Immunity from infection generally lower than vaccine (seen this from a few sources) combine with vaccine is very high.
I focus, I’m interested in seeing the study which shows vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity. So Novak got busted out and about after contracting covid a second time , silly bugger . Couldn’t have been real sick to be out and about. Not really thinking of others though was he . The bloke is generally not well liked regardless of vaccination around covid . I still remember Tom Hanks getting into Qld when the borders were closed and the heartless bitch Jenny Young stating “ oh but he brings a lot of money into Queensland “ anyway here’s a link with vaccine versus natural immunity . https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-m...
Mr Morrison insisted the best medical advice was to avoid lockdowns and to ride out the wave of Omicron cases, which the government expects will peak in late January.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/omicron-spread-faster-than-first... Scotty is just following the best medical advice in the world and he wouldn’t lie about that .
VicLocal, yourself and the current Liberal Government have at least one thing in common: vaccines plus boosters are the way out of this problem. Sure your not a closet Lib voter? Or maybe just Lib ideology while being a public lefty?
I'm positive I'm not a closet Liberal voter tylerdurden. Those incompetent and corrupt fuckers are going last on my ticket unless there's an anti-vax and/or racist scumbag on the ballot.
The LNP don't have a liberal ideology. They have an ideology where they do anything to hold onto power, looking after their own interests, while screwing the voting public. These fuckwits remind me of the Suharto government in the late 1990s.
Yes I support vaccines because the medical evidence shows they are a useful tool to minimise covid. That's about the only thing that turd Scumo and I have in common.
Vic Local wrote:I'm positive I'm not a closet Liberal voter tylerdurden. Those incompetent and corrupt fuckers are going last on my ticket unless there's anti-vax and/or racist scumbag on the ballot.
The LNP don't have a liberal ideology. They have an ideology where they do anything to hold onto power, looking after their own interests, while screwing the voting public. These fuckwits remind me of the Suharto government in the late 1990s.
Yes I support vaccines because the medical evidence shows they are a useful tool to minimise covid. That's about the only thing that turd Scumo and I have in common.
I like the part where you support vaccines because you believe they are a useful tool to minimise Covid. How many confirmed cases this past week? 500k or more?
That seems as useful as tits on a bull.
Supafreak wrote:Vic Local wrote:So the anti-vaxxers are already spreading bullshit about 5-11 year old kids dying and getting seriously sick from the covid vax.
You can expect that bullshit will be published on swell net by Burleigh, blowin, and the other anti-vax idiots in 5-4-3-2-1...https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/4th-child-dies-after-pfizer-vaccine-in.... http://dtinews.vn/en/news/017004/77049/-fifth-student-dies-after-receivi....
So no comment on the two links ? …..,,, The Health Ministry has declared cause of the three deaths as "overreaction to the vaccine," and not linked to the quality of the vaccine or the vaccination process.
Go Scomo .....
https://m.
Supafreak wrote:I focus wrote:Supafreak wrote:Please , anyone correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Novak had covid twice now ? What would be the point of getting vaccinated ? I’m not a fan of Novak or tennis for the record , couldn’t believe the government allowed the last Australian open to go ahead considering the circumstances.
That's what has been reported along with him being photographed following days after positive result attending public functions.
Immunity from infection generally lower than vaccine (seen this from a few sources) combine with vaccine is very high.
I focus, I’m interested in seeing the study which shows vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity. So Novak got busted out and about after contracting covid a second time , silly bugger . Couldn’t have been real sick to be out and about. Not really thinking of others though was he . The bloke is generally not well liked regardless of vaccination around covid . I still remember Tom Hanks getting into Qld when the borders were closed and the heartless bitch Jenny Young stating “ oh but he brings a lot of money into Queensland “ anyway here’s a link with vaccine versus natural immunity . https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-m...
Honestly interested in seeing a study too, as my understanding like the article above says natural immunity is better.
But that was just Wuhan and Delta with reinfection of either of those two, previous exposure to either doesn't give the same immunity to Omicron.
Omicron is quite a bit different to both strains, hence why the vaccines also have much lower efficiency.
@Andy-Mac
Is AndyM (posted in USA thread) also you?
Thanks VicLocal.
What should have ScoMo done to get a better outcome? The main thing the government has done is to bring the booster forward,
What else do you suggest?
More testing or less?
Back to strict lockdowns?
Should have kept us locked up from early December indefinitely?
Greater mask mandates?
I’m fascinated to hear how the situation could have been managed better.
The floor is yours!
tylerdurden wrote:Thanks VicLocal.
What should have ScoMo done to get a better outcome, apart from bringing the booster forward?
The LNP should have:
a. built proper quarantine facilities
b. improved protocols re international travel arrivals staff in NSW
c. Not let it rip so thoroughly in NSW. Having nightclubs open was just asking for trouble.
d. bought enough RATs
e. Made them free to those who needed them
f. stop this idiotic ideological agenda which has seen epic economic damage
g. Not hand out shitloads of cash to companies making record profits
h. Properly oversee aged care facilities (still a fucking shambles 2 years in)
i. Protect vulnerable workers with covid payments if they are awaiting tests
j. Not let in the Ruby princess
k. Ensure vulnerable indigenous communities got vaccinated.
l. Stare down the anti-vax cunts rather than pandering to them because the dog wants their votes.
j. Do what the experts say, not what the big end of town want for their short term economic gain at the expense of public health.
Just a short list. Could go on all night.
b.
indo-dreaming wrote:@Andy-Mac
Is AndyM (posted in USA thread) also you?
Ah ok.. missed it.
Definitely different person.. ◉‿◉
You left out Professor Borody’s protocol for early treatment.
andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:@Andy-Mac
Is AndyM (posted in USA thread) also you?
Ah ok.. missed it.
Definitely different person.. ◉‿◉
Okay, i never noticed until today it was two different profiles, but ive been thinking lately wow Andy is real diverse in his views.
Just like to add, that the "living with covid" agenda always involved a viable track and trace system, with the potential for local lockdowns if covid numbers became problematic.
The shitshow Australia is experiencing now is the result of Gladys & Perrottet letting it rip so thoroughly. This was clapped and cheered by Scumo.
The biggest insult is these flogs refuse to admit they fucked up, because winning an election is more important to these dogs than public health and a healthy economy.
Vic Local wrote:tylerdurden wrote:Thanks VicLocal.
What should have ScoMo done to get a better outcome, apart from bringing the booster forward?The LNP should have:
a. built proper quarantine facilities
b. improved protocols re international travel arrivals staff in NSW
c. Not let it rip so thoroughly in NSW. Having nightclubs open was just asking for trouble.
d. bought enough RATs
e. Made them free to those who needed them
f. stop this idiotic ideological agenda which has seen epic economic damage
g. Not hand out shitloads of cash to companies making record profits
h. Properly oversee aged care facilities (still a fucking shambles 2 years in)
i. Protect vulnerable workers with covid payments if they are awaiting tests
j. Not let in the Ruby princess
k. Ensure vulnerable indigenous communities got vaccinated.
l. Stare down the anti-vax cunts rather than pandering to them because the dog wants their votes.
j. Do what the experts say, not what the big end of town want for their short term economic gain at the expense of public health.Just a short list. Could go on all night.
b.
I would say the experts & big end of town have collided and warped into a super cell.
indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:@Andy-Mac
Is AndyM (posted in USA thread) also you?
Ah ok.. missed it.
Definitely different person.. ◉‿◉Okay, i never noticed until today it was two different profiles, but ive been thinking lately wow Andy is real diverse in his views.
Haha split personality!
Na mate, think I'm pretty in the middle leaning left with a bit of a libertarian streak, but don't like those out of date labels. ;)
Probably noticed no fan of Scomo or libs ...
Few of those points I agree with, others contradict themselves.
Firstly, you seem to suggest that society (nightclubs etc) was opened too early but then suggest some ideological agenda has caused economic damage.
Ie, too many lockdowns or not enough, I’m not sure?
Not sure how you could have tread that knife edge any better.
Secondly, up until July-ish Australia was doing better than just about anywhere in the world.
I agree with the Ruby Princess though.
The irony with the slow vaccine roll out was that it placed the country just about maximally vaccinated for the arrival of Omicron. The governments “incompetence” somehow worked in their favour by having the majority of us vaccinated in the second half of the year,
Unfortunately, it turned out the vaccines don’t work much after 6 months, and even need the boosters after 4 months.
And of course the vaccines don’t seem to work very well on Omicron.
The government has also Pre-purchased $300million worth of Molnupiravir, which has only just scraped over the line in the USA. Thoughts on that one?
Finally, has Dan Andrew’s handled it well?
Most lockdowned city in the world but it seems like Covid is going crazy down there as well.
Pro Dan, anti ScoMo?
Voting Dan back in but ScoMo out?
Stare down the anti-vaxxers?
What about the pro vax, anti mRNA vax crowd?
Do you lump them into the general anti-vax crowd?
What about early treatments?
Happy with the current regime?
Supafreak wrote:I focus, I’m interested in seeing the study which shows vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity. So Novak got busted out and about after contracting covid a second time , silly bugger . Couldn’t have been real sick to be out and about. Not really thinking of others though was he . The bloke is generally not well liked regardless of vaccination around covid . I still remember Tom Hanks getting into Qld when the borders were closed and the heartless bitch Jenny Young stating “ oh but he brings a lot of money into Queensland “ anyway here’s a link with vaccine versus natural immunity . https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-m...
SF that link is pretty compelling, sorry couldn't find where I read the comparison stating natural immunity being lower, there was a CDC statement saying that (can't find that now) but that's not where I got it from there was also greater variation on immunity levels (natural) than vaccine from memory.
Will keep an eye open.
Wondering if it matters which one you get 1st for the combination of vaccine and infection for the greater immunity out come?
Edit, searching for the study, found one and it gets bomb by comments linking to other studies (including the Israeli one) backing your claim looking like I am wrong Cheers.
Can unvaccinated enter Oz quarantine-free?
To be honest Tom I’ve only skimmed the whole story this week. My understanding is that Djokovic is a recently recovered covid case with antibodies (within 6 months) arriving on two separate medical exemptions from the vaccine, supplied by medical doctors, and he’s entering for business. Under those conditions I thought that’s where we are at in Australia, I mean he would have been denied if he wanted to visit his Aunty last year even if he were vaxxed. To speculate against expert medical opinion and government rules seems to be whats popular though. I could be wrong, like I said I’m not following that closely
Details of Scummocchio’s show trial of Djokovic in black and white. Persecution and detainment of an innocent man for political point scoring. Third world bullshit from the tubby wanker Scummo. This is how our government believes it can treat a world wide celebrity with the eyes of the planet upon them, think what they would do to an anonymous Australian citizen. Worth reading the couple of extra paragraphs at the end on Twitter to find just how cynical and evil the government is …..they timed it so Djokovic would not have access to legal recourse. Scummo needs to go in the stocks.
This is an example of where the authoritarianism under the guise of medical emergency is taking us. No way would Summo have been emboldened to detain a world wide celebrity under such sham justification only a couple of years ago. This shit needs to end and the only way it will end is with the electorate showing their disapproval.
Scummo locked up an innocent man against his will in order to distract the population from his attempt to route covid test profits through his business mates. This was a cynical dead cat by our government to distract the public from another one of their evil actions, the fact that an innocent man was put through this ordeal means nothing to them. Scummo should be frogmarched out of office today.
It also pays to never forget the people who attacked Djokovic a few days ago, the scum who walk amongst us who want hate to divide our community. Ignore their shouts for medical apartheid. They are more than complicit in this rapid descent into authoritarianism. Put them in gaol.
Interview of Djokovic with Border Force Officer.
— Ana (@_anatc0) January 10, 2022
A must read.
A heartbreaking read. pic.twitter.com/whdf8ddc2v
“Treat a worldwide celebrity” NoVax is an anti vax moron.
That's so bad. Scumo was fully looking to score points on this but again, he's utterly useless and can't even get that right. Everything he touches turns to crap. What a mess and such poor form.
I haven't been following too closely either but if he was told, do this, sign that, etc and you'll be allowed in to then be blocked once travelling here, I just think that's poor form by the government.
Roadkill wrote:“Treat a worldwide celebrity” NoVax is an anti vax moron.
One day the government will treat yourself or your family in the way they are treating Djokovic. Maybe worse. It might not be for the medical apartheid but it will be something else. What’s to stop them ? You encourage evil authoritarianism if you are an ignorant savage,
Craig wrote:I haven't been following too closely either but if he was told, do this, sign that, etc and you'll be allowed in to then be blocked once travelling here, I just think that's poor form by the government.
Poor form?
You ever been ordered to do something by the cops when you’re innocent? Like merely being told to move on when you are not doing anything wrong? Felt how tenuous your freedom is in the face of an uncaring person with the disposition to abuse their authority? Now imagine the cops came and ripped you from your bed and threw you in a cell at midnight and told you that if you didn’t prove your innocence of a fraudulent charge in the next twenty minutes you’d be locked up or deported.
This is next level , third world tyranny shit that some only see as a mild infringement of human rights because the last two years of applied authoritarianism has increased their tolerance for a government acting outside all social contract.
This isn’t even thin edge of the wedge, it’s the government acting with impunity to persecute people for political ends.
I’m hoping Friendly Jordies crucifies these tyrannical fucks because the media is giving them a soft pass. The media attacked Djokovic only a few days ago…..they had no interest in presenting the truth. How sad is it that our PrimevMinister acts like Duterte and I’m hoping a YouTube blogger has something to say about it because no one else is interested in holding our government to account? Fucked up.
Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:“Treat a worldwide celebrity” NoVax is an anti vax moron.
One day the government will treat yourself or your family in the way they are treating Djokovic. Maybe worse. It might not be for the medical apartheid but it will be something else. What’s to stop them ? You encourage evil authoritarianism if you are an ignorant savage,
Drama queen, blowin.
So the little 5 year old died yesterday from covid. Died because of covid. And many tried to change the narrative to, with covid.
It will be interesting to see how long NZ can keep omicron out. Once it hits NZ it’s all on. They may have a worse time than AUS. Jacinda and Co will have no idea what to do.
Morrison is dangerous, don't let the daggy dad happy clapper image distract you.
Hope Australia wakes up to this and he is voted out, or I really fear for our future.
Really it is about time that any decent individuals in the Liberal party starting speaking out if there are any left. You know the standard you walk by etc etc...
Re Novak, the govt has fucked up again, surprise surprise! Saying that I still am not comfortable with Novak being allowed to 'work' in Australia while my colleagues and I have to be vaxxed to keep our job. Thought Australia was meant to be an egalitarian society. Vaccine is mandated or not, then apply rule fairly....
Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:“Treat a worldwide celebrity” NoVax is an anti vax moron.
One day the government will treat yourself or your family in the way they are treating Djokovic. Maybe worse. It might not be for the medical apartheid but it will be something else. What’s to stop them ? You encourage evil authoritarianism if you are an ignorant savage,
Drama queen, blowin.
Yeah bloke.
You’re a real smart cookie.
Get the taxpayers of Australia to subsidise your shit 4WD , the taxpayers who could have put that money towards a hospital upgrade but instead it’s a wanker’s showpiece to do bog lapse of the Gold Coast.
“Yeah, I ran my ghey plastic wanker car through the business “ says Roadkill.
Just another grifting cunt like VIC Local.
And now you’re here giving props to Scummo by victim blaming a super healthy covid survivor cause he doesn’t fall into line with your authoritarianism.
Look, I can’t pretend you’re not proper scum. You are the worst of Australian. The selfish Goldie wanker who thinks of he gets a jab to protect his own shitty health that he’s a virtuous upstanding citizen, ready to put others under extreme duress cause they disagree with him.
You are the true right wing which everyone proclaims to dislike but who they fail to recognise when you’re strutting your bullshit in front of them.
You are a liability to Australia.
Get the fuck back to NZ. You give Kiwis in Australia a bad name.
Roadkill wrote:Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:“Treat a worldwide celebrity” NoVax is an anti vax moron.
One day the government will treat yourself or your family in the way they are treating Djokovic. Maybe worse. It might not be for the medical apartheid but it will be something else. What’s to stop them ? You encourage evil authoritarianism if you are an ignorant savage,
Drama queen, blowin.
Maybe blowin has a point about the Australian govt's authoritarianism streak. One floor below Navax's bedroom in that hotel, refugees have been detained in shameful conditions for nine years now, being shunted from one defacto hotel/jail to another by our government. They have been offered resettlement in NZ, but our scumbag govt thinks that's too good for them.
Now that's an authoritarian streak, but you won't catch blowin complaining about that shameful situation. He'd be cheering that shit on, while running the "poor Novak" routine.
andy-mac wrote:Morrison is dangerous, don't let the daggy dad happy clapper image distract you.
Hope Australia wakes up to this and he is voted out, or I really fear for our future.
Really it is about time that any decent individuals in the Liberal party starting speaking out if there are any left. You know the standard you walk by etc etc...
Re Novak, the govt has fucked up again, surprise surprise! Saying that I still am not comfortable with Novak being allowed to 'work' in Australia while my colleagues and I have to be vaxxed to keep our job. Thought Australia was meant to be an egalitarian society. Vaccine is mandated or not, then apply rule fairly....
Scummo didnt fuck up, he makes conscious decisions without regard for due process or society. He’s a legit sociopathic fuckwit. He shouldn’t be able to walk the streets in Australia without getting fruit thrown at him.
You are very right when you say that he’s dangerous.
Home affairs website states the following:
'You are automatically exempt from the travel restrictions and can enter Australia (without obtaining an individual exemption) if you are:
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....a person who holds a Temporary Activity (subclass 408) visa in the ‘Post COVID-19 Economic Recovery Event’ stream and who is supported by the Global Business and Talent Attraction Taskforce'
To get 408 visa you must:
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'have a sponsor or supporter
have a contract and a letter of support from a peak sporting body
not work outside your specified sporting activities'
So Novak had this sorted by Tennis Australia and the visa was probably generated automatically online. The system should flag all the unvaccinated applications and put them into 'pending' so someone can review and double-check the paperwork. It's a poorly designed process.
It would be far more reasonable to request him to enter quarantine however problem there is that the feds delegated quarantine to the states. As they effectively have limited tools at their disposal (their own fault for this one) they chose to cancel the visa. Victoria clearly provided him with a quarantine exemption and this is where Victoria's role is important. In that respect, they are wrong in saying they have nothing to do with it, they are allowing unvaccinated tennis players to enter the state quarantine free. We can forever debate feds vs states quarantine management but the fact is; it is managed by states at this point in time so their decisions matter.
If the feds managed the quarantine they would be in a much stronger position to defend the borders, current setup just shows us that we have unnecessary layers of bureaucracy on top of each other.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia