COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Roadkill wrote:tomrnoir wrote:Genuine question to those against mass vaccination: would it have been better to just mandate the elderly/disabled (~18% of Australians) /immunocompromised etc. to isolation for 2-3 years while the strong & healthy fight off this thing with our immune systems?
Collateral damage to the anti vaxers...they don't give a fuck as long as their selfish ideas are not impeded.
We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable.
Great theory RK. Just missing one important fact that the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission.
This is like telling a child that junk food is bad for them over n over again. You just don’t listen then say the same thing the next day.
I’m still shocked that the experts are now saying drink water and take Panadol for this deadly disease, and still no mention of daily vitamin C, D and zinc.
"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:tomrnoir wrote:Genuine question to those against mass vaccination: would it have been better to just mandate the elderly/disabled (~18% of Australians) /immunocompromised etc. to isolation for 2-3 years while the strong & healthy fight off this thing with our immune systems?
Collateral damage to the anti vaxers...they don't give a fuck as long as their selfish ideas are not impeded.
We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable.Great theory RK. Just missing one important fact that the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission.
This is like telling a child that junk food is bad for them over n over again. You just don’t listen then say the same thing the next day.
I’m still shocked that the experts are now saying drink water and take Panadol for this deadly disease, and still no mention of daily vitamin C, D and zinc.
While vaccinated and unvaccinated, when infected have similar peak viral loads, numerous studies have shown that virus in vaccinated subjects declines at a far quicker rate (therefore being less infectious overall).
Infection prevention from vaccination was a thing before Omicron, to which boosters are now countering a solid extent of the damage (although it's a bit of a lost cause at the moment).
Though booster effectiveness wanes over time, if one is say even 10% less likely to pass on what is a dangerous virus to at-risk members of society, that's a great thing. & even more so if they're masking up/social distancing/washing their hands etc.
Our measures are imperfect but we absolutely should all adopt them in the best interests of one another. That's what being Australian is all about.
Heck, if the surf is 5ft, barreling & uncrowded, and the only board I have access to is my uncle's decrepit, hardly-waxed single fin from the 70s, I'm not going to just sit and watch...
monkeyboy wrote:"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
It isn't perfect..but it's the best we can do currently.
What would you suggest as the alternative?
monkeyboy wrote:How is that working out across the world !!
A hell of a lot better than if the Swellnet epidemiological brain trust were in charge.
Really.
Zero community cases in Qld. Elderly, immunocompromised, vulnerable all protected.
Open the borders to the fully vaccinated and PCR tested and ... ooops.
Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
It isn't perfect..but it's the best we can do currently.
What would you suggest as the alternative?
To respect everyone's human right to choose. Some people are ok with dealing with the virus and this includes health professionals. This also means taking responsibility which means not going out and spreading it around - regardless of your vaccination status.
I am not anti vax but the hysteria and fear is ridiculous. Panadol and water - ffs.
Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
It isn't perfect..but it's the best we can do currently.
What would you suggest as the alternative?
It isn’t perfect is the biggest cop out ever. It’s not even close to being ok.
The sales pitch that has gone down made it sound like a wonder drug, the fear to make people take this wonder drug is disgusting.
Now the fear has backfired big time, and their response is to take Panadol and rest.
But most importantly don’t forget your booster $$$
burleigh wrote:But most importantly don’t forget your booster $$$
How cynical of you. https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(21)01496-3
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
It isn't perfect..but it's the best we can do currently.
What would you suggest as the alternative?
It isn’t perfect is the biggest cop out ever. It’s not even close to being ok.
The sales pitch that has gone down made it sound like a wonder drug, the fear to make people take this wonder drug is disgusting.
Now the fear has backfired big time, and their response is to take Panadol and rest.
But most importantly don’t forget your booster $$$
I agree - it's just unfathomable how a "Health" minister could say that. How the hell did Australia not plan for RAT tests when a Brisbane company started producing them 18 months ago and started shipping them off to the USA. The UK has been using them for over 12 months.
The media is culpable - the use of "with" in an inflammatory context with no evidence of "of".
The politicans can say whatever they want because they are not liable for anything they say.
And yet, as individuals we CAN make our own decisions and we can listen to all the arguments - we just dont need to push them on other people endlessly and thoughtlessly.
It's a horrible thing thats going on and humans are making it worse.
This is very different from the media coverage and QLD premier:
Queensland Chief Health Officer tries to soothe parents concerns, says fortnight delay should allow more parents to get booster shots
Chief Health Officer John Gerrad says he wants to provide a balanced message to parents who are concerned about their child contracting COVID-19.
"Parents shouldn't be overly anxious about this virus. I'm worried that we're making parents very anxious that it's going to make their children terribly ill. For the most part, the children will have only a mild illness similar to the respiratory infections they've had in the past. There are rare complications of COVID in children, I'm not going to downplay it. But for the vast, vast majority it's a simple respiratory virus like a virus they would have had in the past," he says.
"It's very likely there will be a surge in infections when schools return, we know that. Any parent knows that when schools return from holidays there is a surge in viruses. In reality, the biggest risk is not to the children themselves, it's to their parents and grandparents. So as much as anything else, this two extra weeks gives [parents and grandparents the] opportunity to get that third dose. If I'm pushing anything, it's that in particular. Children also, certainly. We know that vaccinating the children will protect them, even just the one dose will offer some protection. We know it's important that the parents also get vaccinated as we know they're often the source of infection and that parents get boosted.
"Trying to get this as a balanced message. Parents shouldn't be too anxious because in the most part, it's a mild illness in children. The complications that do occur, they [also] occur with influenza, are rare. Because it's likely there will be a substantial number who do get the virus, even if they're vaccinated, then we will see those complications in the coming weeks."
If I could +1 that I would. He seems a lot calmer than the others who have no health background but are happy to sprout rubbish as if it were truth.
burleigh wrote:The sales pitch that has gone down made it sound like a wonder drug, the fear to make people take this wonder drug is disgusting.
Burleigh the problem with salesmen is not the product they are selling but the after sales service they provide which generally goes off the rails.
I believe the vaccines are an effective way to lessen the severity of Covid and that the data will hopefully show this shortly. Unfortunately the product has now been sold to most of the population in conjunction with the "let it rip" mentality, and the glitches appearing in the product and the sheer logistics of dealing with them on the run, is sending the "salesmen" scurrying as well overloading local health department's lines of communication and testing facilities.
From my personal experience over the past two weeks there is no way any state government is going to control the spread of Covid in any shape or form whatsoever. Viral spread and bureaucratic control of the virus is like comparing a Sauber Mercedes to an original Skoda. Finding RAT tests and getting results back from PCR tests are just not in the same speed zone. We are fast heading towards a "fend for yourself" attitude with Covid unfortunately.
How the hell is this Djokovic case being nationalized as a ‘Serb’ issue? It’s got nothing to do with nationality. what a bunch of clowns.
monkeyboy wrote:Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
It isn't perfect..but it's the best we can do currently.
What would you suggest as the alternative?
To respect everyone's human right to choose. Some people are ok with dealing with the virus and this includes health professionals. This also means taking responsibility which means not going out and spreading it around - regardless of your vaccination status.
I am not anti vax but the hysteria and fear is ridiculous. Panadol and water - ffs.
So if the world followed your suggestion. Would we be better off now or worse off or in the same position?
Where would % of population vaxxed be at now?
Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:Roadkill wrote:monkeyboy wrote:"We get vaxxed to protect the old and young and vulnerable."
How is that working out across the world !!
It isn't perfect..but it's the best we can do currently.
What would you suggest as the alternative?
To respect everyone's human right to choose. Some people are ok with dealing with the virus and this includes health professionals. This also means taking responsibility which means not going out and spreading it around - regardless of your vaccination status.
I am not anti vax but the hysteria and fear is ridiculous. Panadol and water - ffs.
So if the world followed your suggestion. Would we be better off now or worse off or in the same position?
Where would % of population vaxxed be at now?
We would be calm, care for each other and respect others' opinions and decisions.
monkeyboy wrote:We would be calm, care for each other and respect others' opinions and decisions.
That's all well and good, but this thing has knocked off at least 7% of the world's population in 2 years.
oh - and probably at around 90% vaccinated as we're a very compliant population (a good thing generally).
The question becomes: what do you think will happen when we are 100% vaccinated ? Do you think it will be over ? What do you think will happen next ?
May the odds be ever in your favor (seeing as a few politicians have quoted the Hunger Games).
tomrnoir wrote:monkeyboy wrote:We would be calm, care for each other and respect others' opinions and decisions.
That's all well and good, but this thing has knocked off at least 7% of the world's population in 2 years.
It's terrible I agree. More to come for sure; I wonder if it will get much notice if its second or third world countries though that bear the future brunt.
tomrnoir wrote:monkeyboy wrote:We would be calm, care for each other and respect others' opinions and decisions.
That's all well and good, but this thing has knocked off at least 7% of the world's population in 2 years.
Wow 7% of the population has died FROM covid have they?
So deaths are up 7% since Covid started?
Should we just believe you? Or should you put some stats up?
I’m sure VicMoron would even disagree with this.
blackers wrote:Raw data isn't really helpful. Relevant interpretation can be made using relative frequencies because the results are then actually comparable.
Current NSW fully vaxed rate is 93.7%, so 937 per thousand people. That leaves 63 partial or unvaxed. Total population of NSW over 16 (eligible for vax) is about 6.5 million, so we are talking about 6 million vaxed, 500k other.
So of the 684 hospitalizations, 67.4% are double vaxed (=461 people) leaving 223 unvaxed. So far looks like it is a "disease of the vaxed".
But considering the relative frequencies, your 223 is out of 500k (=0.045% of these) and your 461 is out of 6 million people (=0.0077%).
Small numbers both ways no doubt, but it still indicates that you 6 x more likely to be hospitalised if unvaxed or partially vaxed.
Not sure whether you want to get snow tires or not, your choice.
This is the kind of simple maths Covidiots anti vaxxers are incapable of understanding
More on the 5 year old that passed away with Covid yesterday.
The media FEAR headlines failed to mention a few things.
RIP little man, it’s very sad your death has been used as a media tool to create fear to jab fit and healthy 5 - 11 year olds.
burleigh wrote:More on the 5 year old that passed away with Covid yesterday.
The media FEAR headlines failed to mention a few things.
RIP little man, it’s very sad your death has been used as a media tool to create fear to jab fit and healthy 5 - 11 year olds.
Looks like the main mastheads have taken down the article from this morning thank god.
Prayers to this little fella and his family.
billythekid wrote:blackers wrote:Raw data isn't really helpful. Relevant interpretation can be made using relative frequencies because the results are then actually comparable.
Current NSW fully vaxed rate is 93.7%, so 937 per thousand people. That leaves 63 partial or unvaxed. Total population of NSW over 16 (eligible for vax) is about 6.5 million, so we are talking about 6 million vaxed, 500k other.
So of the 684 hospitalizations, 67.4% are double vaxed (=461 people) leaving 223 unvaxed. So far looks like it is a "disease of the vaxed".
But considering the relative frequencies, your 223 is out of 500k (=0.045% of these) and your 461 is out of 6 million people (=0.0077%).
Small numbers both ways no doubt, but it still indicates that you 6 x more likely to be hospitalised if unvaxed or partially vaxed.
Not sure whether you want to get snow tires or not, your choice.This is the kind of simple maths Covidiots anti vaxxers are incapable of understanding
Hmmmm. The hatred is strong in this one. Are you VL's protege??
burleigh wrote:Wow 7% of the population has died FROM covid have they?
So deaths are up 7% since Covid started?
Should we just believe you? Or should you put some stats up?
I’m sure VicMoron would even disagree with this.
World population: 7.75 billion
Deaths from Covid worldwide: 5.5 million
(0.055/7.75) *100 = approx 0.71
(also consider this: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-exc...)
- journalistic data models aren't the only source of presumed underreporting of deaths.
- the whole 'dying with covid' is true for many, though the probable underreporting would, unfortunately, offset much of the logic behind that point (that only a negligable amount of people have died FROM Covid).
0.7%, not 7%, my apologies. Thanks BD.
monkeyboy wrote:It's terrible I agree. More to come for sure; I wonder if it will get much notice if its second or third world countries though that bear the future brunt.
Excellent point - my prediction is no, definitely not.
tomrnoir wrote:burleigh wrote:Wow 7% of the population has died FROM covid have they?
So deaths are up 7% since Covid started?
Should we just believe you? Or should you put some stats up?
I’m sure VicMoron would even disagree with this.World population: 7.75 billion
Deaths from Covid worldwide: 5.5 million
(0.55/7.75) *100 = ~ 7.1
(also consider this: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-exc...)
- journalistic data models aren't the only source of presumed underreporting of deaths.
- the whole 'dying with covid' is true for many, though the probable underreporting would, unfortunately, offset much of the logic behind that point (that only a negligable amount of people have died FROM Covid).
Tom I thought 1billion was 1000 million....but maths was never my strongpoint.
"Hmmmm. The hatred is strong in this one. Are you (billy the kid) VL's protege??"
Actually BD, I gave BTK both barrels because he was a let it rip guy at the start of the pandemic. To his credit BTK changed his opinion because you know, evidence made his earlier position untenable.
Today we have more people infected, more people in hospital, and more people in ICU than any other time in the pandemic. And that's despite a very high vaccination rate which has reduced the impact of the latest wave. And yet, the "let it rip / no vax" fucking morons still think they're right.
Christ, how much evidence do you need to see before one of you clowns puts up his hand and says "Geez letting it rip wasn't the best idea, and thank god so many folk have been vaccinated otherwise Australia would have had a US style medical disaster".
tomrnoir wrote:burleigh wrote:Wow 7% of the population has died FROM covid have they?
So deaths are up 7% since Covid started?
Should we just believe you? Or should you put some stats up?
I’m sure VicMoron would even disagree with this.World population: 7.75 billion
Deaths from Covid worldwide: 5.5 million
(0.55/7.75) *100 = approx 7.1
(also consider this: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-exc...)
- journalistic data models aren't the only source of presumed underreporting of deaths.
- the whole 'dying with covid' is true for many, though the probable underreporting would, unfortunately, offset much of the logic behind that point (that only a negligable amount of people have died FROM Covid).
OMG, are you for real?
Deaths FROM covid is not 5.5 million. That is deaths WITH covid.
Your stats are wrong mate. Unless you can show an increase of overall deaths world wide of 7% which I know you can not.
From & With are 2 very different things.
I’ll ask you again, have worldwide deaths INCREASED since the beginning of Covid?
Yep. nah. Looks like you'll have to revise your maths there Tom.
Being educated doesn't always equate to being intelligent.
But again, i'm shit at maths, so i guess i'm neither.
https://alexaanswers.amazon.com/question/5Pw9NSaqLbayzGjtkLWxXW#:~:text=....
bluediamond wrote:tomrnoir wrote:burleigh wrote:Wow 7% of the population has died FROM covid have they?
So deaths are up 7% since Covid started?
Should we just believe you? Or should you put some stats up?
I’m sure VicMoron would even disagree with this.World population: 7.75 billion
Deaths from Covid worldwide: 5.5 million
(0.55/7.75) *100 = ~ 7.1
(also consider this: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-exc...)
- journalistic data models aren't the only source of presumed underreporting of deaths.
- the whole 'dying with covid' is true for many, though the probable underreporting would, unfortunately, offset much of the logic behind that point (that only a negligable amount of people have died FROM Covid).Tom I thought 1billion was 1000 million....but maths was never my strongpoint.
Not mine either! Thanks for the heads up.
burleigh wrote:tomrnoir wrote:burleigh wrote:Wow 7% of the population has died FROM covid have they?
So deaths are up 7% since Covid started?
Should we just believe you? Or should you put some stats up?
I’m sure VicMoron would even disagree with this.World population: 7.75 billion
Deaths from Covid worldwide: 5.5 million
(0.55/7.75) *100 = approx 7.1
(also consider this: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-exc...)
- journalistic data models aren't the only source of presumed underreporting of deaths.
- the whole 'dying with covid' is true for many, though the probable underreporting would, unfortunately, offset much of the logic behind that point (that only a negligable amount of people have died FROM Covid).OMG, are you for real?
Deaths FROM covid is not 5.5 million. That is deaths WITH covid.
Your stats are wrong mate. Unless you can show an increase of overall deaths world wide of 7% which I know you can not.
From & With are 2 very different things.
I’ll ask you again, have worldwide deaths INCREASED since the beginning of Covid?
See my correction - *thanks to BD for pointing out the maths error.
From/With are very different, yes. Did you read this part of my comment? "the whole 'dying with covid' is true for many, though the probable underreporting would, unfortunately, offset much of the logic behind that point (that only a negligable amount of people have died FROM Covid)."
tomrnoir wrote:burleigh wrote:Wow 7% of the population has died FROM covid have they?
So deaths are up 7% since Covid started?
Should we just believe you? Or should you put some stats up?
I’m sure VicMoron would even disagree with this.World population: 7.75 billion
Deaths from Covid worldwide: 5.5 million
(0.055/7.75) *100 = approx 0.71
(also consider this: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-exc...)
- journalistic data models aren't the only source of presumed underreporting of deaths.
- the whole 'dying with covid' is true for many, though the probable underreporting would, unfortunately, offset much of the logic behind that point (that only a negligable amount of people have died FROM Covid).0.7%, not 7%, my apologies. Thanks BD.
0.07% with a significant portion of those dying above the average age of death
That makes it one seventh as deadly as sugar
Novak Djokovic has won. Does this set a new precedent for employment?
Especially with just HOW many people have covid right now.
This is a huge win and a big fuck you to our power tripping corrupt government.
Had covid? No need for a booster or any covid vax for 6 months I would presume
Djokovic was never a public health risk to Australia. The double standards thing must sting a lot for Aussies who've had to deal with these restrictions for 2 years, though.
tomrnoir wrote:Djokovic was never a public health risk to Australia. The double standards thing must sting a lot for Aussies who've had to deal with these restrictions for 2 years, though.
The rules have changed this year because the virus and vaccination status has changed. It won’t sting adults than comprehend that. The rules have always applied to anyone, lots of people were coming and going for business the past two years
shoredump wrote:That makes it one third as deadly as fast food
Poor lifestyles are choices - they don't spread like wildfire. Though, putting aside the vaccine issue, I understand where you're coming from with this. Tobacco as well.
shoredump wrote:The rules have changed this year because the virus and vaccination status has changed. It won’t sting adults than comprehend that. The rules have always applied to anyone, lots of people were coming and going for business the past two years
Can unvaccinated enter Oz quarantine-free?
Agreed Tom. That's a truckload of people, either way you slice or dice it.
(Warning!) None of the below listed drugs are approved by TGA for Covid Treatment.
Supermarket drug cure is more dangerous than killer Vax or bad case of the Omicron Flu.
Extra risk is plausible with NSAIDs over the counter cures
https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1185.long
Does Ibuprofen worsen Covid-19.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7287029/
CDC : " Routine dosing of NSAIDs post Vax is not recommended > Unknown mRNA antibody response?
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/cdc-gives-guidance-on-...
NHS:
"There have been some news reports of Anti-inflammatory Painkillers, such as Ibuprofen, making COVID-19 worse."
All recommended use refers to UK health funded Jan-Aug 2020 Lancet Hospital Study.
* (Group) NSAIDs 6% less males 25% less Blacks (Important in marginal 1% outcomes of No effect?)
* Patients were regular users prior to infection but not newly dosed during incubation.
* No patient doses were monitored & doubtful if NSAIDs were included or effectual in Hospital recovery
* Hospital doctors advise against introducing NSAIDs for Covid unless course was prescribed.
* No DIY at Home pill poppers were included in Study.
* Trial claims no benefit of NSAIDs (Observations of less imflammation is not proven without doses!)
Outcome...
Continue to prescribe NSAIDs in same way...as NSAIDs are not associated with poorer Patient outcomes
https://www.nps.org.au/covid-19-and-medicines-faqs
Not once does it advise to self medicate Panadol or Ibuprofun to treat Covid! (Why do experts say it does!)
2 y/o Govt study with no idea of NSAIDs dosing during incubation, regurgitates latest Holy Grail elixir.
$2 Homebrand Panadol #1 World Wide Vax & Covid wonder drug...(That's Good News right!)
[ The Commission on Human Medicines has "NOW" confirmed there is "NO" clear evidence that using Ibuprofen to treat symptoms such as a high temperature makes Covid worse ] (Well that's not so bad!)
EMA / WHO / NIH do not recommend against continued clinically prescribed or indicated use. (Super!)
UK NHS : "You can take Paracetamol or Ibuprofen to treat symptoms of COVID-19. Try Paracetamol first 'if you can', as it has (Fewer Side Effects) than Ibuprofen and is the (Safer Choice) for 'most' people."
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-tr...
*Winner! Never heard any Covid cure sound more terrifying than the Vax...until now.
Xmas day tbb ODed on Panadol ... definitely not ready for Ibuprofen...be another 10 years for the Vax!
Oz/State Govts #1 (Health Direct): "Kidz /Adults can take Paracetamol or Ibuprofen to relieve pain and fevers and take 'Cough Medicine' if needed!" (Cough!)
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/managing-covid-19/treatments-for-covid-19
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/managing-covid-19/caring-for-someone-wit...
Current pre / post Vax Kidz are dosed up on Panadol will need to Queue for the Covid Panadol Booster!
NSW Health : "Most Covid-19 Symptoms can be managed with "regular" Paracetamol and Ibuprofen to relieve pain and fevers + (Throat Lozenges) for a sore throat." (tbb can do the cough drops entry level!)
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/factsheets/Pages/advice-for-con...
Qld GC Health: "Get better with Hydralyte / Paracetamol and/or Ibuprofen." (Titans'Mad Monday Drug Cocktail!)
https://www.goldcoast.health.qld.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19/emergency-d...
Atagi advise against pre Vax Paracetamol but it's fine to treat fever / myalgia side effects from Vax!
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/08/covid-19...
Vic Health : ( Managing Fever after Vax ) Routine use of Paracetamol after Vax is not recommended!"
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/immunisation-ch...
Vic Health Covid Checklist "Paracetamol or Ibuprofen & Icypoles!" (Cool Change!)
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/checklist-prepare-covid-isolation
RACGP chair Dr Hepe / AMA Dr Moy "Together, recommend an ample supply (A box) of Paracetamol or Ibuprofen / Hydralyte or Gastrolyte / Cold'n'Flu Medicine / Decongestants / Antihistamines / Lozenges / Nasal Sprays (Sparingly) but only the saline one for Kidz. (Steer Clear of Dodgy Asthma Steroids ).
Also stock up on Surgical Masks & Gloves Alcohol Wipes / Disinfectants.
Big Ticket Trolley Items > Pulse Oximeter / Digi Thermometer (Drool!)
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7455749/how-to-deal-with-a-covid-...
Chem Warehouse Checkoutchick : "That'll be $999, 999. 99c... Much cheaper than ICU !" All say Aye!
Deakin Uni Epidemiologist Professor Bennett [ABC Pandemic Profiteering Panic Buy Recovery Channel ]
Home Covid Cure Pack > "You'll need Lot's of Ajax products / Panadol / Nurofen / Hydralyte-IceBlocks."
+ Pulse Oximeter / Thermometer.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/how-to-prepare-for-a-household-co...
Syd Uni Epidemiologist Professor Martiniuk : "Paracetamol / Panadol / Ibuprofen / Gatorade / Hydralyte."
"Keep yer Medicine cupboard stocked up in advance!"
"Includes having things like Paracetemol / Ibuprofen on hand for Ages" ... (For how long is that again!)
"Having Gatorade or Hydralyte can be useful."
Choice Magazine :
(End of the World ... All Vax must go Sale)
Make way for some half decent Covid DIY Home Brews!
New 2022 Govt approved Covid Treatment Plans...
Clive's Wuhan Flu Cough Drops! ***** [ Buy Now ]
Craig Kelly's Horse Throat Lozenges! ***** [ Buy Now ]
So just wot does TGA make of all this Mass Fraudulent Miracle Covid Cures peddled by our Govts.
*Recall on the Strawberry Kiwi Flavoured Hydralytes ...Covid sufferers complained they can't taste it!
https://www.tga.gov.au/alert/hydralyte-strawberry-kiwi-effervescent-elec....
Expert : "You can shoot up & swallow what you like....as long as it doesn't do anyone any good!" Amen!
burleigh wrote:Novak Djokovic has won. Does this set a new precedent for employment?
Especially with just HOW many people have covid right now.
This is a huge win and a big fuck you to our power tripping corrupt government.
Had covid? No need for a booster or any covid vax for 6 months I would presume
Everyone out there who’s unvaxced with a license to play tennis on the ATP tour who was given a rightful exemption to play in the Oz Open but was erroneously issued with a visa to enter Australia is doing cartwheels in the wake of that decision.
bluediamond wrote:Agreed Tom. That's a truckload of people, either way you slice or dice it.
Pardon the misled numbers. I think I got it wrong twice. Promise to not do maths again on this forum! Big day at work - should be better at maths, being a programmer
Morrison couldn’t organise a chook raffle
burleigh wrote:Novak Djokovic has won. Does this set a new precedent for employment?
Especially with just HOW many people have covid right now.
This is a huge win and a big fuck you to our power tripping corrupt government.
Had covid? No need for a booster or any covid vax for 6 months I would presume
No because he won on a technicality regarding the amount of time he was given to respond versus the time that the border force made the decision - someone in border force will likely take the hit.
He didnt win because of his medical exemption. Clever decision by the judge and possibly the only one with a legal basis (guess on my part).
Roker wrote:burleigh wrote:Novak Djokovic has won. Does this set a new precedent for employment?
Especially with just HOW many people have covid right now.
This is a huge win and a big fuck you to our power tripping corrupt government.
Had covid? No need for a booster or any covid vax for 6 months I would presume
Everyone out there who’s unvaxced with a license to play tennis on the ATP tour who was given a rightful exemption to play in the Oz Open but was erroneously issued with a visa to enter Australia is doing cartwheels in the wake of that decision.
Yeah……… you don’t get it
Novak is Free!
truebluebasher wrote:Novak is Free!
Yes TBB and the government can still revoke the visa but as Australia already looks stupid enough on the world stage I’m betting they don’t, then again this government doesn’t mind looking stupid . https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/live-novak-djokovic-court-hearing-o... After Judge Anthony Kelly read out the minute agreed to by both sides, which will set Djokovic free from detention, government lawyer Christopher Tran indicated the federal Minister for Immigration and Migrant Services, Alex Hawke, would consider whether to use his “personal power of cancellation” to cancel Djokovic’s visa again.
That scenario would come with an additional, significant wrinkle: it could entail banning the world number one from Australia for three years.
“If this man is to be summarily removed, he cannot return to this country for three years. Am I right about that?” Judge Kelly asked.
monkeyboy wrote:burleigh wrote:More on the 5 year old that passed away with Covid yesterday.
The media FEAR headlines failed to mention a few things.
RIP little man, it’s very sad your death has been used as a media tool to create fear to jab fit and healthy 5 - 11 year olds.
Looks like the main mastheads have taken down the article from this morning thank god.
Prayers to this little fella and his family.
Makes you wonder why the commercial mastheads didn't run the same interview that the ABC did on the front page like they did this morn. Or at least a redaction/update as I reckon alot of peoples heart sank reading that headline this morning, mine sure did. I've heard redactions only reach what 30% of readers who read the first piece, not sure how correct that is.
It also reads quite obviously that the family wanted their voice and story to be heard from them personally. But no, wipe the original story or hide it on page 9 somewhere.
Headlines also read "child under 5 dies from COVID", the exact age of the next cohort of vaccine candidates. As the first death of a child under 5 in Aus with COVID (was he?) you think they'd have the decency to get the story right from the get go?
Little guy fought overs to be here with us for as long as he did and deserves alot better than what he got.
Really, really hard to not be cynical. Try hard each day to reset and positively reframe and then bang, in your face again.
I really see no end to all of this conjecture and endless comment battles with people that you thought you'd probably have a beer with in normal circumstances (pre '19).
This thread is annoyingly addictive in the sense you know what you are going to read is gonna fire you up and get you down, yet it draws you in. No different to substance abuse/addiction. V strange times.
truebluebasher wrote:Novak is Free!
unlike the refugees who have been locked up for 9 years.
What a fucking immoral shit-show.
tomrnoir wrote:bluediamond wrote:Agreed Tom. That's a truckload of people, either way you slice or dice it.
Pardon the misled numbers. I think I got it wrong twice. Promise to not do maths again on this forum! Big day at work - should be better at maths, being a programmer
haha. Same mate. I still think i've somehow cooked the number but will do for now!
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia