COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Joe Rogan? Why does the word "smug" come to mind? Probably because it also occurs everytime Indo and some others post. Smug is characterised by an air of superiority "...of course those fat, stupid people will get it and die...why should I care?". It is characterised by either indifference to the difficulties that others might have experienced in their lives or a profound ignorance of how many others live. It is characterised by the proposal of simplistic solutions to complex problems and the assertion that people's problems are all of their own making. It always fails to consider disability, disadvantage and the impacts of abuse. It is the attitude of the ruling class, the neoliberals and their fellow travellers. It is one of the few unforgiveable personality characteristics. It is the trait that causes us to excuse ourselves from tedious and unpleasant company and find a conversastion with someone whose understanding of social conditions extends a bit deeper than "I'm alright Jack, fuck you!"
blindboy wrote:Joe Rogan? Why does the word "smug" come to mind? Probably because it also occurs everytime Indo and some others post. Smug is characterised by an air of superiority "...of course those fat, stupid people will get it and die...why should I care?". It is characterised by either indifference to the difficulties that others might have experienced in their lives or a profound ignorance of how many others live. It is characterised by the proposal of simplistic solutions to complex problems and the assertion that people's problems are all of their own making. It always fails to consider disability, disadvantage and the impacts of abuse. It is the attitude of the ruling class, the neoliberals and their fellow travellers. It is one of the few unforgiveable personality characteristics. It is the trait that causes us to excuse ourselves from tedious and unpleasant company and find a conversastion with someone whose understanding of social conditions extends a bit deeper than "I'm alright Jack, fuck you!"
Lol….wut?!?!
Blind boy the smugness is intentionally thrown back at people like you who smugly declare that you don’t care about anti vaxxers despite not trying to understand the way their brain works. But you don’t get that. If you were married to my wife you would throw her in the ocean because her fear of sharks is irrational.
The science says that health, age and the vaccine IN THAT ORDER are the best lines of defence against covid
Not taking into account of hardship and disability is your specialty
Ready, I’ll hold up a mirror:
“ It is characterised by either indifference to the difficulties that others might have experienced in their lives or a profound ignorance of how many others live. It is characterised by the proposal of simplistic solutions to complex problems and the assertion that people's problems are all of their own making”
"According to the WHO, the pandemic has triggered a separate, global crisis among patients with conditions like cancer, diabetes and heart disease who were unable to get—or who put off—timely care because of healthcare systems overrun by Covid-19.
In most places, it is hard to quantify how many people delayed or forwent healthcare during the pandemic. But in the U.K., thanks to a centralized, government-funded healthcare system, officials have been able to keep track.
At the end of October, the number of people in England who were on the waiting list for an elective procedure—one that is usually planned in advance and isn’t life threatening enough to require emergency attention, like a colonoscopy or knee surgery—hit six million."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pandemics-hidden-toll-millions-in-u-k-await...
Science+social&economic circumstance=Covid outcome.
Social as in society as in cohesive as in shared rights and responsibilities as in the community in which we all live (harmoniously) in.
Ahh Vic Local. Sticking to his (pointed guns) and avoiding the answers to the question again. Resorting to name calling to avoid the answer, again. So you can't tell me where i can find the information on the development of the vaccine Vic?? Even though you told me it's all out there (you idiot) your words.
Billy the kid. It seems you have your wires crossed mate. It's not me that wants the information (although for a chuckle i'd love VL to produce it). It's all the rest of the worlds leading scientists that want to have it made public so they can prove to people like your sister that yes, indeed the vaccine is very safe. I don't see a problem with that do you? Fine you trust it for now.....from what i'm hearing and seeing, it's something that shouldn't be trusted based on sheer numbers of adverse effects. Can you deny that? Why not just release the science for the scientists to comb through??
Roadkill, taking cheap shots from the side as usual. I've never actually see you contribute anything meaningful to a discussion ever. Just cheap one liners.
How funny are those vegans, with their actual sacrifice and solutions to pandemics and global warming
Hahaha losers, this is living
Too true.
I feel socially obligated to the poor oppressed fat carnts out there! Vulnerable because of a heartless society! And….exclude the unvaccinated from society!
Lololol
thermalben wrote:"According to the WHO, the pandemic has triggered a separate, global crisis among patients with conditions like cancer, diabetes and heart disease who were unable to get—or who put off—timely care because of healthcare systems overrun by Covid-19.
In most places, it is hard to quantify how many people delayed or forwent healthcare during the pandemic. But in the U.K., thanks to a centralized, government-funded healthcare system, officials have been able to keep track.
At the end of October, the number of people in England who were on the waiting list for an elective procedure—one that is usually planned in advance and isn’t life threatening enough to require emergency attention, like a colonoscopy or knee surgery—hit six million."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pandemics-hidden-toll-millions-in-u-k-await...
That is high….deaths will follow due to this. Pretty sad but no surprise.
"people like you who smugly declare that you don’t care about anti vaxxers "
So show me where I said anything like that? My position is that you can do what you like but if you lie to try and support your view, I will call it out and yeh, give a bit of curry if you want to persist with the bullshit.
"The science says that health, age and the vaccine IN THAT ORDER are the best lines of defence against covid"
I suspect a healthy, unvaccinated 90 year old would be at severe risk.
Care to support that view with some evidence? It is unlikely to be true across all age groups.
Ben-Those non covid Ill health outcomes aren’t seperate from the pandemic, they are a deliberately excluded conclusion of political measures. It’s not an inadvertent collateral accident, it’s the result of a planned outcome which consciously ignored and suppressed consideration of hugely impactful negative outcomes.
Back to the grand conspiracy. Is Blowin really Q? Or is he just another gullible goose?
No way man, if you can’t accept that fact you can find me the stats that say the young and healthy are the ones taking a hiding & prove me wrong
bluediamond wrote:Ahh Vic Local. Sticking to his (pointed guns) and avoiding the answers to the question again. Resorting to name calling to avoid the answer, again. So you can't tell me where i can find the information on the development of the vaccine Vic?? Even though you told me it's all out there (you idiot) your words.
Billy the kid. It seems you have your wires crossed mate. It's not me that wants the information (although for a chuckle i'd love VL to produce it). It's all the rest of the worlds leading scientists that want to have it made public so they can prove to people like your sister that yes, indeed the vaccine is very safe. I don't see a problem with that do you? Fine you trust it for now.....from what i'm hearing and seeing, it's something that shouldn't be trusted based on sheer numbers of adverse effects. Can you deny that? Why not just release the science for the scientists to comb through??
Roadkill, taking cheap shots from the side as usual. I've never actually see you contribute anything meaningful to a discussion ever. Just cheap one liners.
That’s the way BD…play victim. Sook.
Roker, that was hilarious. Still laughing…it’s only a colddddddd
Quality Roker, that was funnier than reading any of info’s recent posts !!
blindboy wrote:Back to the grand conspiracy. Is Blowin really Q? Or is he just another gullible goose?
It’s not a conspiracy to suggest that the entire world knew a lot of important shit was being ignored whilst the Wuflu was being treated like a million foot high tsunami indiscriminately steamrolling it’s way across humanity. It is true and everyone, including yourself, knew it to be true.
It’s just that political opportunism, in catering to the irrationally scared such as yourself, allowed this important shit to be purposefully ignored.
By June of 2021, before the vaccines, the average age of death from covid was 87 years old…..and the number young people facing deleterious health outcomes as result of the ridiculous political overreach in response to the most disproportionately mitigated virus in world history, numbered in the hundreds of thousands.
But none of that matters to the covid cultists.
Every covid cult life saved is worth the lives of thousands succumbing to other treatable illness hey bloke!
Who's a victim Roadkill? What are you talking about? Deflecting again? In what possible way do you read victim out of that?
Roadkill wrote:Roker, that was hilarious. Still laughing…it’s only a colddddddd
Shouldn’t you be queuing up for your 15th booster bloke?
Diagnostic intervention has been hugely impacted in Aus…avoidable deaths will increase in the next few years. Many countries have acknowledged that cancer deaths will increase and spike in the next few years.
Diagnostic intervention has been hugely impacted in Aus…avoidable deaths will increase in the next few years. Many countries have acknowledged that cancer deaths will increase and spike in the next few years.
Roadkill wrote:Diagnostic intervention has been hugely impacted in Aus…avoidable deaths will increase in the next few years. Many countries have acknowledged that cancer deaths will increase and spike in the next few years.
And you know why?
It’s because chicken shit shouty chunts like yourself demanded the world be shut down because of the Wuflu Tsunami.
How you do feel bloke? Knowing that it was your irrational fear which condemned thousands of people to untimely and unpleasant death ?
Oh well….at least you had your softcock personality catered for and we possibly extended the lives of a few 90 year old dementia patients in palliative care by a few months so they didn’t die within 28 days of a positive covid test…..and that’s all that matters.
Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:Roker, that was hilarious. Still laughing…it’s only a colddddddd
Shouldn’t you be queuing up for your 15th booster bloke?
Shouldn’t you be caring for your, mother, father, uncle, brother, aunty, cat, dog, rabbit, cockroach, neighbour, guy across the road, chick next door, old bag that lives above you and every other close contact you have claimed to have been affected by the vaccine?
“Old bag that lives above you”
You mean my partner’s 84 year old mum who spends her life in distress because the love of her life is rendered immobile and lifeless by Parkinson’s which she is impotent to help? Yeah….you’re one of the good guys hey.
How’s it feel knowing you’ve subjected thousands of people to catastrophic illness because of your chickenshit irrational fear bloke?
Yeah….you know how you’ve been shouting about how society needs to all live like yourself ie as softcocks. Even when it was obvious that only a tiny fraction of the population was vulnerable you still demanded that everyone forfeit their lives to give you baseless fear some relief.
You’re a bit of a disgrace hey bloke.
And a MAMIL.
Not much to recommend there bloke.
Kicking the boot repeatedly into someone’s sick mother wins the swellnet disgraceful act of the year
All the best to her blowin
shoredump wrote:Kicking the boot repeatedly into someone’s sick mother in law wins the swellnet disgraceful act of the year
All the best to her blowin
Give it..take it.
If snowflake and you can’t take it..stop giving it.
Blowin wrote:“Old bag that lives above you”
You mean my partner’s 84 year old mum who spends her life in distress because the love of her life is rendered immobile and lifeless by Parkinson’s which she is impotent to help? Yeah….you’re one of the good guys hey.
How’s it feel knowing you’ve subjected thousands of people to catastrophic illness because of your chickenshit irrational fear bloke?
Yeah….you know how you’ve been shouting about how society needs to all live like yourself ie as softcocks. Even when it was obvious that only a tiny fraction of the population was vulnerable you still demanded that everyone forfeit their lives to give you baseless fear some relief.
You’re a bit of a disgrace hey bloke.
And a MAMIL.
Not much to recommend there bloke.
Give it..take it. If you can’t take it…then stop giving it, snowflake.
GuySmiley wrote:Quality Roker, that was funnier than reading any of info’s recent posts !!
Seriously Guy i told you in my email reply the other day, im not interested im happily married and the whole same sex thing isn't for me anyway, not that there is anything wrong with it, love is love and all that.
But with all respect could you please get over your man crush on me, this whole following me around and mentioning me in 9 out of 10 post of your's is just getting a little too much.
Like i said it's flattering and all, that, but yeah.
Bloke ….you’ve been shitting your pants for two years over the flu.
And you’re calling other people snowflakes?
For real?
I think you need another boost bloke.
Maybe ask the Doctor if he can find you a bit of heart and spine whilst he’s giving you another jab.
Bullies never like getting it thrown back at them..
They cry and whine, like blowin and SD are now doing.
TBH, blowin is the biggest snowflake here by a country mile. He's repeatedly gone after my family and has the nerve to sook when someone says something about his relative.
He goes to pieces when someone does something he doesn't like even when it doesn't impact him at all. Someone thousands of kilometres away wears a mask and it's waaaaaaah waaaaaaaah, you're a chickenshit. Someone rides a bike for fitness and blowin loses it.
Show us on this dolly where the the nasty rider / mask wearer hurt you blowin.
Farken sook,
To be honest , I’ve got to thank you Roadkill.
Because, although you’re completely unaware of the fact, you are presenting as the perfect example of your classic mindless chickenshit who has meekly accepted the change in narrative and utterly reversed your previously unshakeable belief that the covid isn’t “ just the flu”.
Somehow, with no real drama or convincing, you’ve been convinced by the media and give that you can stop PANICKING now. Nothing has changed from a couple of months ago - Delta is still “out there” and still as “ multiple times more severe “ than the other strains you were told to shit yourself about.
Even the other strains are still kicking around but you don’t care anymore….why not?
Because you’ve been told by the papers not to care. Obviously the media is still blaring the scary headlines but the subtext is that everyone has it now so let’s just accept that everything we said before no longer applies.
So you’re useful to me bloke. As a perfect example of a stooge. I’d love to create a parade fuckstik character who flip flops at the behest of Kochie on Sunrise but it would take a bit of effort and you’ve saved me the trouble by being that stooge….for real!
Seriously, go back through this thread and read some of your breathless fear mongering, divisive Anti Vaccinated hate speech and general chickenshitery . You’ll be astounded at how much of a flog you are bloke. I know I was astounded!
Not much of an admirable character are you bloke.
blindboy wrote:Back to the grand conspiracy. Is Blowin really Q? Or is he just another gullible goose?
Geez give it a rest. Pretty toxic
The new Norman: Mengele's Swan song
saltyone wrote:blindboy wrote:Back to the grand conspiracy. Is Blowin really Q? Or is he just another gullible goose?
Geez give it a rest. Pretty toxic
blowin's argument basically comes down to two things. Grand conspiracy theories, and telling anyone who listens to experts that they are "chickenshit" "scared" or subject to panicking.
Two years and still going. Geez it's pathetic.
“blowin's argument basically comes down to two things. Grand conspiracy theories, and telling anyone who listens to experts that they are "chickenshit" "scared" or subject to panicking.
Two years and still going. Geez it's pathetic.“
Geez give it a rest. Pretty toxic
Vic Local wrote:saltyone wrote:blindboy wrote:Back to the grand conspiracy. Is Blowin really Q? Or is he just another gullible goose?
Geez give it a rest. Pretty toxic
blowin's argument basically comes down to two things. Grand conspiracy theories, and telling anyone who listens to experts that they are "chickenshit" "scared" or subject to panicking.
Two years and still going. Geez it's pathetic.
Yet I’m still to be proven wrong on a single issue.
Whilst yourself…..lol.
Fuck bloke , you’re all over the place like a mad woman’s shit.
What about a year ago when you were wanting to call police because someone from the wrong suburb was surfing your beach ? When you said that people walking the streets in Melbourne during lockdown needed to have their heads kicked in by police?
Now the exact same virus is everywhere, even your chickenshit mate Roadkill is nonchalantly chaperoning a potentially infected person around town in his car and you’re utterly fucking quiet about it all.
Where’s your “ Lock Us Down Now!” Demands ? You know the demands which condemned thousands of young Australians to depression, suicide, bankruptcy, separation from dying lived ones, broken relationships, ruined careers , lost jobs, destitution , missing years of living and untreated severe illness leading to painful death.
Like I’ve been saying the whole time….there is real world consequences for you softcock fear mongers inciting panic in the community.
Will there be a single moment of reflection? A single pause where you think :
“ I got it wrong. It was just the flu as evidenced by everyone going about their business and a death wave not enveloping everyone. I was a soft cock chickenshit who thought that yelling my irrational fears out loud was totally acceptable and shouting down those who talked reason was completely above board.”
Nope. It’s just more blah blah blah shouty bullshit.
You’re a disgrace too bloke.
Take your fear mongering, your hate speech and socially destructive segregationist rubbish , your authoritarianism , your tiny pea heart and …..fuck off down into the hole you crawled out of.
billythekid wrote:BD who cares about scrutinising the development of the pfizer vaccine? All that matters is how well it works. Which it does. As many studies have shown. A 2 second google search is all it takes. Here's one of many. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/02/03/2021.02.01.2125...
I dont understand it cos I'm not smart enough and or educated enough. But then neither are you. You wouldn't try to outthink the guy fixing the computer bullshit on your car, but it blows me away that all sorts of people think they can outthink the best scientific minds in the world and see something they're all missing. My sisters have been caught up in your bullshit. One of them, in her mid sixties, is literally risking her life over it. And its always focusing on Pfizer, Fauci and big Farma - like Fauci wouldn't be making triple the money working in private industry. If youre paranoid about it, take AZ!!
Well said.
I think BD had a couple of mid-strengths last night and got excited
I just have to say one thing.
Now we've seen the virus mutating to a less severe version that is Omicron, you can't just go around saying it's the flu.
It'll likely end up being endemic like the flu but it was far more deadly and clogging up ICU beds for longer periods of time in previous forms. Hence needing vaccination and lockdowns.
It is promising though to see it being less severe over time.
Craig wrote:I just have to say one thing.
Now we've seen the virus mutating to a less severe version that is Omicron, you can't just go around saying it's the flu.
It'll likely end up being endemic like the flu but it was far more deadly and clogging up ICU beds for longer periods of time in previous forms. Hence needing vaccination and lockdowns.
It is promising though to see it being less severe over time.
Craig…you do realise that Omicold is a different strain and that the delta strain hasn’t all mutated into Omicold? The delta strain is still out there in exactly the same capacity and transmitting at exactly the same rate with exactly the same severity. Only it should be much worse because now no one gives a fuck.
The whole “ We were saved by lockdowns and strangers staying away from VIC Local’s beach “ is now proven to be a fucking lie.
The prevalence of Omicold does not preclude or exclude the presence of delta. All that’s happened is the fake justifications for the mitigations have been held off by media and Government for a while. I’m sure the lies will be reestablished if the narrative demands, which I suspect it will.
QR codes at retail and hospitality were reinstated for what ? They are literally not being checked by anyone. They are a lie to convince the chickenshits that they are being protected. People may as well be swiping their lotto tickets at the QR machines for all the good they’re achieving.
It was all a lie.
Craig wrote:I just have to say one thing.
Now we've seen the virus mutating to a less severe version that is Omicron, you can't just go around saying it's the flu.
It'll likely end up being endemic like the flu but it was far more deadly and clogging up ICU beds for longer periods of time in previous forms. Hence needing vaccination and lockdowns.
It is promising though to see it being less severe over time.
It is interesting, Craig. We still have the Spanish flu, after killing millions it mutated down to where it is now. Covid seems to be doing the same now, Omicron variant being less severe.
I agree, things are looking up.
Lies , lies , lies.
They said the vaccine stopped transmission. Now they are lying and saying they didn’t.
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) December 26, 2021
Video proof here 👇
https://t.co/Ds632bHZzI
Yes I do understand and one of my good mates looks to have Delta as he's been knocked for six. Just that Omicron is taking over.
This is why new strains of flu are seen every year and there are new vaccines for it. It becomes the dominant as the old dies out.
Roadkill wrote:Craig wrote:I just have to say one thing.
Now we've seen the virus mutating to a less severe version that is Omicron, you can't just go around saying it's the flu.
It'll likely end up being endemic like the flu but it was far more deadly and clogging up ICU beds for longer periods of time in previous forms. Hence needing vaccination and lockdowns.
It is promising though to see it being less severe over time.
It is interesting, Craig. We still have the Spanish flu, after killing millions it mutated down to where it is now. Covid seems to be doing the same now, Omicron variant being less severe.
I agree, things are looking up.
Nothing has changed except your tiny mind bloke.
Craig wrote:Yes I do understand and one of my good mates looks to have Delta as he's been knocked for six. Just that Omicron is taking over.
What’s that supposed to mean ?
You are literally saying:
“ Oooohh….we locked down for delta and it was necessary Bec delta was soooo deadly that we needed to halt people from living. But now that we’ve got the exact same deadly Delta PLUS Omicold it’s all good bro!”
That’s nonsensical.
Using the metrics from a couple of years ago, situation is way worse now than when you were bleating “flatten the curve”.
You’ve been sold a lie and now you’re retrofitting your past beliefs to suit the new story.
Remember when we were told that delta would “spread like wildfire “ and the whole nation paused for two minutes of hate on the infected bloke who drove to Byron to look at real estate ? Now you’ve got people possibly infected with the exact same virus being chauffeured around the Gold Coast by Daddy so they can stand alongside hundreds of thousands of other people for hours in a queue and it’s totally unremarkable.
Remember the manhunt to chase that infected delta bloke who absconded from Western Sydney whilst the Fucken Military patrolled the fucken streets !!!!!! Now there’s thousands of crew going to Christmas parties and it’s no biggie.
The unvaccinated were told they shouldn’t be allowed to buy food or receive medical care because the risk to people from the virus was SO GREAT that we should just drop all pretence at civilisation and cast the mud bloods out into gulag in the wastelands. The virus is so dangerous and deadly that medical apartheid was justified….remember?
Nothing has changed except the story.
Blowin wrote:Yet I’m still to be proven wrong on a single issue.
I'm honestly not having a go, but its interesting to go read the first half dozen pages of this thread from Mar 2020.
A few people have changed their tune.
You were posting up panic porn videos of Italian hospitals and calling for school closures.
Things do change.
I thought it was a nothing burger.
Haha … gold ;)
Get off the farkn keyboard blowin…
Blowin the anti authoritarian authoritarian anti dictator living in his own mental dictatorship…
Give it a rest …
Look how much time u spend on here ;)
What do u actually do when not rabbiting on about nutbag fantasies and telling everyone else how right u are?!
What a sad existence. When the pandemic eases you can always tell everyone in the real world how u served your purpose by just incessantly talking shit on a computer ;);)
Well done.
Bloke ;);)
freeride76 wrote:Blowin wrote:Yet I’m still to be proven wrong on a single issue.
I'm honestly not having a go, but its interesting to go read the first half dozen pages of this thread from Mar 2020.
A few people have changed their tune.
You were posting up panic porn videos of Italian hospitals and calling for school closures.
Things do change.
I thought it was a nothing burger.
Fully.
As I’ve explained earlier , I was in Indo watching Asian news services pushing the “healthy Chinese spontaneously collapsing “ propaganda whilst everyone in Australia was unaware of what was unfolding.
It’s so,useful to revisit those days now the story has evolved. It’s so blatantly obvious the whole thing was an orchestrated beat up from day one. It’s basically impossible to read the stories of China lockdowns which lasted 6 days and apparently cured covid to the point that theye had 4000 deaths for the entire country despite a cold start.
It’s extremely useful to see how the West adopted the previously unimaginable Chinese lockdowns of the entire citizenry. So many things happened back then which were used as examples of outcomes and which were never replicated anywhere else in the world.
The media and government have never acted with any respect for the truth throughout the two years. Their words have never been backed up by real world measures except for those which altered the world’s view of the limits of control on government over populations. Nothing….no early treatment, no public health information around lifestyle and diet….nothing.
It was only ever government control of population.
I’ve no doubt the entire thing is designed to create a new paradigm for the relationship between Government and citizenry.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia