2022 Election

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blindboy started the topic in Saturday, 13 Nov 2021 at 7:46am

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blackers Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:08pm
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I think Constance B Gibson is an author. I think i remember seeing that name on a book. I always figured he was channeling that. I could look it up, but what for? My paycheck won't change with the result.

No it won't. However he did nail ID in 4 as promised.

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:28pm

https://m.

For Indo.... ;)

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Supafreak Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:31pm
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https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/federal-ele... Julia Banks: When voting for ‘the devil you know’ isn’t good enough

Again LNP members and supporters the standard you walk by etc etc....
Horrible corrupt individual by sounds of it our Scomo....

Apparently Ms Banks will be writing a weekly column during the election, should be interesting, lets see what other liberals get on board.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 8:53pm
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Supafreak wrote:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/federal-ele... Julia Banks: When voting for ‘the devil you know’ isn’t good enough

Again LNP members and supporters the standard you walk by etc etc....
Horrible corrupt individual by sounds of it our Scomo....

I dont what's worse the fact media gives washed up bitter nobodies a platform or that these people are still bitter and looking for revenge five years after the event.

Sad either way

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 9:00pm
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbIk0P8-z8

For Indo.... ;)

How's the irony, brain washed by Jordies

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soggydog Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 9:07pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbIk0P8-z8

For Indo.... ;)

How's the irony, brain washed by Jordies

How’s The”Free money” Indo loves.

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 9:31pm
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indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbIk0P8-z8

For Indo.... ;)

How's the irony, brain washed by Jordies

How’s The”Free money” Indo loves.

No doubt commented without watching... None of that lefty rubbish presenting facts will be viewed or analysed. Only false narratives pushed by Costello and Murdoch allowed.. happy Saturday.. :)

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 8:17am

Good news for Labor voters.

This week cant be any worse than last week, it's really not possible.

Worst start to an election campaign in living memory????

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andy-mac Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 9:11am
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Good news for Labor voters.

This week cant be any worse than last week, it's really not possible.

Worst start to an election campaign in living memory????

Yeah bad start...
Still no comparison to going on holidays when Australia burns, forgetting to order vaccines, lying about ICAC, paying $30 million for property worth $3 million, $40 billion to profitable companies, compensation payment for robodebt victims, at least the one who hadn't topped themselves, paying out $500,000 for a mp's ex shag, but not know why, backgrounding rape victims, and I could keep going... But hey brain fart over pointless unemployment figure, not suitable to be PM...

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soggydog Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 9:52am
indo-dreaming wrote:

Good news for Labor voters.

This week cant be any worse than last week, it's really not possible.

Worst start to an election campaign in living memory????

Indo…..still living’ on the tit…… yeah……free money, talking’ heaps of shit, free money, Indo’s getting it. That free money. Not workin too much, don’t wanna blow the the threshold for “free money” livin off the tit.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:03am

You know Andy it doesn't matter how many times you spin your BS its still BS.

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soggydog Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 9:56am

Get that “free Moneeeeeererry” ya leech

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 9:59am
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Indo…..still living’ on the tit…… yeah……free money, talking’ heaps of shit, free money, Indo’s getting it. That free money. Not workin too much, don’t wanna blow the the threshold for “free money” livin off the tit.

Put your crack pipe down old man, you don't know what you're talking about.

I have a work life balance because i choose too and worked hard and smart to be able too, and get very little from the government, only reason we might get something on the rare occasion is because my wife is smart enough to go chasing it.

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oxrox Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:03am

Anyone got anything positive from people/parties trying to get elected to govern the country? Like stuff that's realistic? That's what we should be looking for. Dragging up stuff about Scomo and Libs is getting boring. Where's the policies etc where you go... Yeah that sounds good and realistic, let's give this lot a go. Not just one but a plan.

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soggydog Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:06am

I think anytime anyone gets close to the bone it’s an old man with a crack pipe.
I’m probably a similar age to your self, yes , I’m white and it was a joint and a coffee not a crack pipe.
Grift on grifter.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:11am

Whatever dude you are obviously just trolling me.

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Supafreak Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:17am

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oxrox Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:21am

Haha that's good supa

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GuySmiley Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:21am

“... my wife is smart enough to go chasing it”.

Well well it’s good she’s got the brains in the @info household, one out two you know, explains a lot.

You suckle at the teat of free money, you work for the cash money?

#givingitagoandgettingago

How good is Australia?

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andy-mac Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:23am
indo-dreaming wrote:

You know Andy it doesn't matter how many times you spin your BS its still BS.

Please specify exactly which point/ points I made are BS... Can you do that? You never address specific points, but rattle off how good Australia did over Covid, economy etc straight from msm narrative.
All have been in the public domain and not argued.
As per not looking into past, well past actions are usually a good indication of future actions.
Scomo and his govt have form when it comes to lack of transparency and corruption.....

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Supafreak Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:36am

andy - mac said “ Yeah bad start...
Still no comparison to going on holidays when Australia burns, forgetting to order vaccines, lying about ICAC, paying $30 million for property worth $3 million, $40 billion to profitable companies, compensation payment for robodebt victims, at least the one who hadn't topped themselves, paying out $500,000 for a mp's ex shag, but not know why, backgrounding rape victims, and I could keep going... But hey brain fart over pointless unemployment figure, not suitable to be PM... “ then indo said “ You know Andy it doesn't matter how many times you spin your BS its still BS. “ I’m very interested in indo’s explanation of how this is BS ….. should be a good spin .

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 10:54am
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You know Andy it doesn't matter how many times you spin your BS its still BS.

Please specify exactly which point/ points I made are BS... Can you do that? You never address specific points, but rattle off how good Australia did over Covid, economy etc straight from msm narrative.
All have been in the public domain and not argued.
As per not looking into past, well past actions are usually a good indication of future actions.
Scomo and his govt have form when it comes to lack of transparency and corruption.....

Forgetting to order vaccines is garbage

Australia had shit loads of AstraZeneca if you are talking about Pfizer, it got ordered when needed, but off course supply priority goes to countries with Covid who actually need it.

New Zealand was in exactly the same situation as us and got Pfizer supplies almost the same day we did.

Your whole fire thing as we know is also BS, as we know natural disasters are a state issue until a point where they need help from the government, at which point it would be irrelevant anyway where a leader is and as we know there is acting leaders anyway if they needed to physically attend an event etc

The reality is Australia has done amazing through Covid both from an economical perspective and health perspective, they are a proven government.

Labor are completely unproven and as we have seen this week cant even get the simple basics right.

But yeah lets roll the dice to see if they can do as good...

FFS you would have to be either brain dead or woke or both, you guys need to go grab a pot from the kitchen and smash it over your head to knock some common sense into yourself.

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Supafreak Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 11:02am

You haven’t addressed all the problems andy -mac put up indo , and he was just really scratching the surface .

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andy-mac Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 11:04am
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https://youtu.be/iCRDseUEEsg

Reckon if Labor do get up and implement proper ICAC, Angus will be one very frightened individual...

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GuySmiley Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 11:05am

FFS @info stop wasting our time will ya and put the brains of the outfit on ....

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andy-mac Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 11:13am
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You know Andy it doesn't matter how many times you spin your BS its still BS.

Please specify exactly which point/ points I made are BS... Can you do that? You never address specific points, but rattle off how good Australia did over Covid, economy etc straight from msm narrative.
All have been in the public domain and not argued.
As per not looking into past, well past actions are usually a good indication of future actions.
Scomo and his govt have form when it comes to lack of transparency and corruption.....

Forgetting to order vaccines is garbage

Australia had shit loads of AstraZeneca if you are talking about Pfizer, it got ordered when needed, but off course supply priority goes to countries with Covid who actually need it.

New Zealand was in exactly the same situation as us and got Pfizer supplies almost the same day we did.

Your whole fire thing as we know is also BS, as we know natural disasters are a state issue until a point where they need help from the government, at which point it would be irrelevant anyway where a leader is and as we know there is acting leaders anyway if they needed to physically attend an event etc

The reality is Australia has done amazing through Covid both from an economical perspective and health perspective, they are a proven government.

Labor are completely unproven and as we have seen this week cant even get the simple basics right.

But yeah lets roll the dice to see if they can do as good...

FFS you would have to be either brain dead or woke or both, you guys need to go grab a pot from the kitchen and smash it over your head to knock some common sense into yourself.

So reports Scomo was not in Australia, but Hawaii when fires were taking place is false? Ah ok.

Reports from Pfizer executives that Australia sent low ranked officials to meet them when Pfizer wanted to get Australia enough vaccine for population to use as example case. Pfizer requested high level meeting but were snubbed.... This False also?! Mmmmm
Rightio.
Then you reply with how good did Australia go.... Oi oi oi...
Then get personal requesting I grab a pit and smash my head without addressing properly any of the points (facts) I had listed.
Carry on Sir....

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soggydog Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 11:22am
indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:

You know Andy it doesn't matter how many times you spin your BS its still BS.

Please specify exactly which point/ points I made are BS... Can you do that? You never address specific points, but rattle off how good Australia did over Covid, economy etc straight from msm narrative.
All have been in the public domain and not argued.
As per not looking into past, well past actions are usually a good indication of future actions.
Scomo and his govt have form when it comes to lack of transparency and corruption.....

Forgetting to order vaccines is garbage

Australia had shit loads of AstraZeneca if you are talking about Pfizer, it got ordered when needed, but off course supply priority goes to countries with Covid who actually need it.

New Zealand was in exactly the same situation as us and got Pfizer supplies almost the same day we did.

Your whole fire thing as we know is also BS, as we know natural disasters are a state issue until a point where they need help from the government, at which point it would be irrelevant anyway where a leader is and as we know there is acting leaders anyway if they needed to physically attend an event etc

The reality is Australia has done amazing through Covid both from an economical perspective and health perspective, they are a proven government.

Labor are completely unproven and as we have seen this week cant even get the simple basics right.

But yeah lets roll the dice to see if they can do as good...

FFS you would have to be either brain dead or woke or both, you guys need to go grab a pot from the kitchen and smash it over your head to knock some common sense into yourself.

Morrison was warned several times of the potential danger of catastrophic fires, ignored the warnings( much like the facts you choose to ignore) then went on holiday.

Anyway Adam Bandt announced a fully costed transition policy for fossil fuels.

What’s Scotty got “Free Money”Dreaming

Albanese commits to a Federal ICAC while the LNP slink away from Scott’s promise. What say ye on that one “FreeMoney”Dreaming

You’ll like this one, Scott announces heaps of PorkBarrelling in marginal seats. Out of all 3 is this one your favourite campaign announcement so far “FreeMoney Dreaming.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 12:11pm
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Anyway Adam Bandt announced a fully costed transition policy for fossil fuels..

Ha ha are you just trolling? knowing i hate the Greens ten times more than i hate Labor.

Adam bandt and the Greens make Albo and Labor look sane, despite all Labor's faults they are second best and can actual govern Australia just not as good as LNP.

Adam bandt and the Greens on the other hand are nothing more than a protest party, nobody takes them seriously they are no different to One nation or United Australia Party, all three are fruit cakes and have completely unrealistic policies that are just constructed to appeal to their voter base, but it doesn't matter because none are ever going to run the country, so they can say whatever they like.

Without even looking at it the Greens transition to renewables costing im sure would be completely unrealistic, you can bet its not going to include gas.

Im sure it was you? who said they also listened to the ABC podcast "Australia if you're listening" i think last 20 mins of episode 7

Obviously its a very left leaning podcast angle, but even they admitted after talking to a number of experts all agreed gas will be used to support renewables and storage until about 2050 (they also mentioned we already have over 50 gas peaking plants)

And as mentioned in the podcast it's the issue of needing storage for either a few weeks or another reliable back up energy supply that is the issue, not just hours ir days worth of storage that most people think is all we need.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 12:10pm

Adam Bandt wants to flood Australia with millions of people. Adam Bandt also wants to save the Australian environment.

Adam needs to google “contradiction”.

Adam needs to google “Hypocrisy “.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 12:14pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

Adam Bandt wants to flood Australia with millions of people. Adam Bandt also wants to save the Australian environment.

Adam needs to google “contradiction”.

Adam needs to google “Hypocrisy “.

Most of the Greens policies are contradictions, under their policy immigration rates would increase dramatically as would the need for housing and pressure on environment for land use and building materials etc.

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Supafreak Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 12:59pm

The rumours turn out to be true , what a lovely caring person she is . https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-17/anne-ruston-health-minister-coali...

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andy-mac Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 1:53pm
Supafreak wrote:

The rumours turn out to be true , what a lovely caring person she is . https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-17/anne-ruston-health-minister-coali...

https://ipa.org.au/ipa-review-articles/be-like-gough-75-radical-ideas-to...

No. 20 : means test Medicare
LNP want it gone, this will add to the continuation of cuts until Medicare is unsustainable... Mediscare was real and cuts have been and will continue to be made with Medicare. But hey, what does losing universal health care matter if I get a tax cut! Woohoo...
How good.....

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Supafreak Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 2:39pm

. Interesting little Twitter poll

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 4:39pm

The Morrison Government is investing record funding in Medicare, providing more support to Australians as we face some of the greatest health challenges in a generation. Our commitment to Medicare is rock solid.

We are investing $125.7 billion in Medicare over the forward estimates, an increase of over $6 billion since last year’s Budget. This is up 58% from when Labor were last in government.

This includes $204.6 million to extend the Medicare Benefits Schedule (MBS) telehealth arrangements until 31 December 2021, bringing the total investment in telehealth to $3.6 billion. This is continuing to provide access to health services for all Australians regardless of where they live. Importantly patients whose movements are restricted by a State or Territory public health order can continue to access support through telehealth.

Through the 2021-22 Budget, the Government invested a further $711.7 million to add new services and strengthen existing services on the MBS. For example, $40.5 million has been committed for ambulatory blood pressure monitoring – a new service for diagnosing high blood pressure (hypertension) that provides greater accuracy for diagnosis through continuous monitoring over 24 hours. Ambulatory blood pressure monitoring is superior to the currently MBS funded service of discrete blood pressure measurements in a clinic, or using home blood pressure monitors in conjunction with GP consultations.

From 1 July 2021, changes to the MBS items for orthopaedic, cardiac and general surgery services will be implemented following recommendations of the independent, clinician-led MBS Taskforce Review.

The changes are part of the most comprehensive review of Medicare since it began, with the aim of modernising the system to ensure it supports high quality health and medical practice.

They result from a five year process by the MBS Review Taskforce, including detailed consideration by committees led by medical experts, and extensive consultation with relevant medical organisations and the public.

As well as revised Medicare rebates, the changes include the addition of new items, the revision of some items and removal of other obsolete items, to reflect contemporary best practice.

They will improve the quality and safety of care for patients, support high value care, and simplify the MBS.

The majority of the changes coming into effect on 1 July 2021 relate to orthopaedic surgery items, which make up about 10 per cent of all MBS items.

Medicare rebates have been reviewed to reflect the cost and complexity of performing each service. They will assist consumers in accessing the best available medical treatment and ensure a more consistent approach to billing by providers.

Rebates will significantly increase for a number of items. Rebates will rise for nine existing items for general surgery and 29 orthopaedic surgery items. For example, the Medicare rebate for revision of knee replacement (item 49533) will increase by $315 to $2,645.55.

For cardiac surgery, rebates will rise significantly across three services related to coronary bypass grafting surgery, which have been increased by 50 per cent.

Changes to general surgery consolidate the existing 138 items into 85 items and provide more flexibility for surgeons to better tailor treatment to patients.

Private Healthcare Australia has publicly supported the 1 July 2021 changes, noting most patients would not pay increased out-of-pocket costs and that rebates have increased for a range of orthopaedic procedures.

The Government will closely monitor the impact of the 1 July 2021 changes to ensure there are no unintended consequences to patients. We are also committed to working in partnership with the sector, including the AMA, private health insurers and private hospitals, to implement future changes to the MBS recommended by the MBS Review Taskforce.

Further information about the 1 July 2021 changes to the MBS is available at:
https://www.liberal.org.au/latest-news/2021/07/01/guaranteeing-medicare

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seeds Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 4:43pm

Nice bias confirmation from the bubble
Off course

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 4:53pm
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Nice bias confirmation from the bubble
Off course

Its facts versus fiction

We all know Labor uses a mediscare campaign every election. (not many people believe it now though)

I cant speak for everyone but my medication in the last nine yeas has gone from $30 to $20 $10 even though im quite happy to pay $30.

Nine years ago bulk billing clinics in my area were rare, now all my local clinics seem to be bulk billing and you dont even need to show or sign anything.

Id be quite happy to pay something reasonable like $50 to see a doctor.

The Labor rumours and lies over 9 years havent eventuated, if anything the system has got better and cheaper, at least in my families experience.

But maybe others have had difference experiences?

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seeds Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 4:57pm

Indo you really need to read all sides of the press to make an informed opinion. You state openly here that you won’t read this or that (click on) because it’s lefty crap. Jordies MW Crikes are independent not lefties. They have nothing preventing them from reporting it as reported to them. You can’t be taken seriously when you won’t read all sides of the story and won’t acknowledge points of corruption that have been raised in the public realm. Blinkers on dude

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:14pm

I listen to ABC radio almost all day at work, it's far enough left and enough leftism for me.

I highly doubt any of these leftie/Labor types listen to Sky News or read the Australian, i rarely do myself.

BTW. Jordies, MW, Crikey are 100% lefties and extremely pro labor they make no secrets of that, if they aren't lefties than i don't know exactly who is, you don't get more left than them.

Here's media bias checks rating of Crikey and the Australian, as you can see Crikey is much further left than the Australian is to the right.

Unfortunately Michael West or Jordies aren't listed as not exactly proper media outlets in the same way Avi isn't. (even though he is employed by a news media company)

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seeds Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:17pm

So everything they’re reporting on is make believe?
To support their lefty agenda?
Poor old Auntie is a bit timid these days to report the nitty gritty with defamation cases and also righty Government scrutiny and funding threats

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:35pm

Funny people suggesting I'm in a bubble an ABC one while claiming some opinion piece You tubers that don't even get out of their room to research or report are gate keepers of the truth???

It's absolutely no different to how during Covid people were posting their idea of the truth of Covid based on the opinions from some You tuber.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:37pm

Off course @info would quote LNP shite, nothing unusual or out of the ordinary about that

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seeds Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:41pm

You’re trying to simplify what they do without any knowledge (self proclaimed) of it. People are reporting to them covertly to expose the shit that these fuckers are up to. If only you’d watch it you’d have a Jordan Peterson style conversion. Maybe, off course.

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andy-mac Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:43pm

Left Right blah blah....
How about we concentrate on truth and facts versus lies and falsehoods...
Those labels are so 20th century... Haha.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:46pm

Sorry Seeds I'm not into political based conspiracy theories.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 17 Apr 2022 at 5:49pm
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Left Right blah blah....
How about we concentrate on truth and facts versus lies and falsehoods...
Those labels are so 20th century... Haha.

Fortunately I gave up golf a very long time ago but when I did play I played army golf - to the left, to the left, left right left .... always off course