2022 Election
Albo VS Morro….7 pm on sky evidently….hope they both behave themselves.
Optimist wrote:Albo VS Morro….7 pm on sky evidently….hope they both behave themselves.
Going to be interesting those in government are always at a disadvantage as much more to attack, but Scomo has the advantage of experience, knowledge and confidence.
The little chewy blue bits were crocidolite.
It's actually my field of expertise when I was proletarian Constance. I've seen the most beautiful interspersing of chrysotile amongst nickel - but spreading it from arsehole to breakfast all over a worksite was not recommended!
The biggie for me was the poor office workers under HVAC with a chalky millboard surrounding air-heating elements. This would get old, as all things do. (Bad old days: don't freak these days, read the site manifest) Find that and you could shut down a building. Ah, I shut down some pretty big stuff back in the day.
My uncle worked on the blue sky mine too, he reckoned you were shovelling and it was so thick you couldn't see. Paid for his professional qualification, but at what cost? Stay safe all.
OK election update. Have applied for postal vote and one of the parties, being very clever, has delivered a postal vote application chockas with all their election info. Tempted to give them the vote for being so Machiavellian. Also tempted to draw cock on the ballot.
So for the knowledgeable: is this the legit form, or am I about to receive 6 of them and have to find the AEC one amongst them?
If this is how it works, I can see how Biden won it!
Never underestimate the power of the postal vote vj. It's likely legit form, and I doubt you will get any others (fake or real) Although, If it's got a blue tinge to it I would be inclined to put is aside for use as weed matting.
Haha CBG, missed that one and may have actually tuned in for a few mins if I had stumbled across it at the time, maybe. "Sadly, what was promoted ahead of the event to be no-holds-barred free for all turned out to be a hour-long right-wing circle jerk, with all participants violently brimming with hubris that their prospective parties would decide the balance of power in Queensland and thus the country."
That's the picture I get when I think about those gronks in the same room. Lowest (un)common denominator writ large,
Anyway,
indo-dreaming wrote:DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:Indo….please tell me you dont support a cashless welfare card.
Please. That’s the very bottom of the barrel.
I 100% support the cards for certain circumstances, communities where there is high levels of welfare dependency and high levels of alcohol, drug abuse, gambling or high levels of domestic violence. (like Cape York)
Id also support a system where a person after a certain period on the dole goes onto the card for example after 24 months, or where a person on the dole has a history of bad money management or other issues.
Id also support a system where anyone on any benefit can volunteer to go on the card, as many people just can't manage money and might want a card to help them, in the same way people set up direct debits or payment schemes.
As I've said before i was on the dole for quite some time, while i was pretty good with money, i knew others on the dole that weren't, and them not being able to manage money often became mine and others problem, flat mates with no money left for rent or bills always wanting to borrow money, i had one mate that always use to blow all his dole money on pokies, it become so much of a problem his mates had to contact his parents in Tassie and get him to go home as his issues with money and gambling was ruining friendships.
Should your FreeMoney be issued by a cashless welfare card.
velocityjohnno wrote:OK election update. Have applied for postal vote and one of the parties, being very clever, has delivered a postal vote application chockas with all their election info. Tempted to give them the vote for being so Machiavellian. Also tempted to draw cock on the ballot.
So for the knowledgeable: is this the legit form, or am I about to receive 6 of them and have to find the AEC one amongst them?
Draw a cock because you'll likely pick the winner.
The Tribe has spoken
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Re postal votes, regardless of your political leanings. The ones you get in the mail (I’ve had two so far) and those text messages (4), the trick to them is to check where they tell you to send them. If you send then directly to the AEC, then no problem. Don’t send them via the people who sent them to you, Labor or LNP, they use the same tactics. It’s all a scam to get your data. They don’t open them, they aren’t allowed to, but they can get the details to add to their databases.
This is a non-partisan electoral announcement.
2019 [L] Branding was removed from all Party association & plastered over all things less shitty.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/22/liberal-mps-erase...
2019 Josh Frydenberg's Made in China AEC How to Vote [L] Masterpiece.
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/app/uploads/2020/01/liberal-par...
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/liberty-party-members-keep...
2020 [L] Vax: "Likely to arrive in 2021, if they prove safe & effective." (Bad luck...neither happened!)
https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/123464197_10157695995...
2021 News: Rollout off to a slow start...(Greg Hunt : Not related to our [L] Vax fear campaign)
[ Not another [L] Misinformation Ad Rewritten & Authorized by Pfizer's Fed Govt Supa Fund ] Vote [L]
2021 [L] Grants Ad Rort Campaign
[L] Tax Relief [L] Local Business VISAS [L] Regional Australia [L] Business / Manufacturing
[L] Online Safety [L] Free to Air [L] Apprentice Subsidies [L] Phone Scam Protection
[L] Job Maker Credits [L] Home Care Packs [L] Homebuilder Jobs [L] GP Bulk Billing
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Et0lR2zVkAgljDa?format=png&name=small
2022 PM's [L]ittle Women's Network Dick Pic Logo is censored for being too rude for swellnet forum.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/15/australian-pms-de...
2022 Josh Frydenberg's latest Ad Rort > [L] Guide Puppy is branded too young to Vote.
[L] Childish Animal rights exploitation Activists back calls for [L] pound puppie's right to Vote for Josh.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-20/guide-dogs-victoria-karen-hayes-p...
indo-dreaming wrote:
LNP paid their mates $30 million for a piece of land valued at $3 million and Michael McCormack told the taxpayers they’d thank him in 20 years.
That is an economic fact as opposed to FreeMoney Dreaming again posting complete Bullshit.
And you never answered the question, should your families welfare be paid through a cashless debit card so we the people who are paying taxes to support your relaxed lifestyle know your not wasting it. And we’ll define waste and let you know.
batfink wrote:Re postal votes, regardless of your political leanings. The ones you get in the mail (I’ve had two so far) and those text messages (4), the trick to them is to check where they tell you to send them. If you send then directly to the AEC, then no problem. Don’t send them via the people who sent them to you, Labor or LNP, they use the same tactics. It’s all a scam to get your data. They don’t open them, they aren’t allowed to, but they can get the details to add to their databases.
This is a non-partisan electoral announcement.
Cheers crew for all advice. The letter is addressed back to one of the candidates.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/apr/21/nsw-nationals-can...
And some like to post that the Greens are crazy!
Nationals less than 5% of national vote and leader becomes deputy PM and form govt with coalition deal on that is top secret...
Cool n normal!!!
andy-mac wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/apr/21/nsw-nationals-can...
And some like to post that the Greens are crazy!
Nationals less than 5% of national vote and leader becomes deputy PM and form govt with coalition deal on that is top secret...
Cool n normal!!!
Yeah, that ones a ripper isn’t it.
Poor old slomo , he got caught lying so many times in the years and months then weeks leading up to the election, that now he’s in a real tizzy because pensioners , including aged and disability, are having a hard time believing that he won’t introduce an indue card for everyone. His problem is that when his lips move people don’t really believe him as his reputation of telling porky pies is famous around the world .
More attempt at antagonising a paying subscriber there Constance.
It’s obvious that you want to be antagonistic and insulting, provoking a response which enables you to double down on insult and harassment but somehow think you’re clever enough to do so with a nudge and a wink and get away with it.
Not true.
Just stop insulting and harassing subscribers so as to proactively destroy their enjoyment of the service they pay for. Is this too hard for you?
Antagonising subscribers to provoke dissatisfaction with the service.
soggydog wrote:And you never answered the question, should your families welfare be paid through a cashless debit card so we the people who are paying taxes to support your relaxed lifestyle know your not wasting it. And we’ll define waste and let you know.
Mate you don't deserve a reply so this will be the last time i address your trolling as i said in the housing thread.
"Ha ha, you are on smack dude, i own a business, i pay taxes (but try not too), my wife works and pay taxes, we aren't on any regular social welfare, we get some subsides like on Childcare, my wife is smart and occasionally finds one off payments and schemes etc generally related to familys or kids etc"
indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:And you never answered the question, should your families welfare be paid through a cashless debit card so we the people who are paying taxes to support your relaxed lifestyle know your not wasting it. And we’ll define waste and let you know.
Mate you don't deserve a reply so this will be the last time i address your trolling as i said in the housing thread. If you didn't need the payments do you think it's in Australia's best interests to be claiming them? And if so how may Australians who are reasonably well off are claiming unnecessary benefits?
"Ha ha, you are on smack dude, i own a business, i pay taxes (but try not too), my wife works and pay taxes, we aren't on any regular social welfare, we get some subsides like on Childcare, my wife is smart and occasionally finds one off payments and schemes etc generally related to familys or kids etc"
Indo do you currently need extra payments and schemes or do you utilise them for your benefit? You have a couple of houses and a two partner income?
In my opinion your pretty financially stable. Not struggling. And are lucky enough to have enough brains for what schemes and payments are available for someone in your position. If you aren't financially stretched is it a essential benefit?
Robwilliams wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:And you never answered the question, should your families welfare be paid through a cashless debit card so we the people who are paying taxes to support your relaxed lifestyle know your not wasting it. And we’ll define waste and let you know.
Mate you don't deserve a reply so this will be the last time i address your trolling as i said in the housing thread.
"Ha ha, you are on smack dude, i own a business, i pay taxes (but try not too), my wife works and pay taxes, we aren't on any regular social welfare, we get some subsides like on Childcare, my wife is smart and occasionally finds one off payments and schemes etc generally related to familys or kids etc"
Indo do you currently need extra payments and schemes or do you utilise them for your benefit? You have a couple of houses and a two partner income?
In my opinion your pretty financially stable. Not struggling. And are lucky enough to have enough brains for what schemes and payments are available for someone in your position.
The childcare subsidy is nice, most other one off type payments i dont expect and generally surprised when we can get get them.
BTW. I only have one house in Aust, have a few properties in Indo though.
You have done well. enjoy
Should they be giving people incentives to not have children? Or a find a male pill?
@Robwillliams said "..... And are lucky enough to have enough brains for what schemes and payments are available for someone in your position......."
Not wanting to be pedantic or anything Rob but @info has already told us @mrsinfo is the brains of the unit, as Scomo always says if your not "blessed" with brains its best to marry some!
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Robwilliams wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-21/barnaby-joyce-morrison-domestic-v...
Was he drunk as usual?
You do know child care and any and all other govt subsidies can be rorted by self employed people running companies through discretionary family trusts. Initially expensive with legal and accounting fees but I guess the set up costs are chicken feed compared to a lifetime of suckling at the taxpayer teat. When I say lifetime it can be intergenerational so it's best to get he kids involved early to hide taxable income and maximise govt grants if and when the nippers hit university. In my days as a forensic accountant the crookedest leech I came across was, surprise surprise an evangelical christian (no BS) who was running the above structure with his 4 kids, wife and parents in laws all on the payroll (in paper only) + very successful/profitable business + getting a disability pension. Its another grubby little secret of advantage/disadvantage in the AU taxation system.
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Robwilliams wrote:Should they be giving people incentives to not have children? Or a find a male pill?
I don't think any government would do this, we need population growth especially young people who will pay taxes most of their life.
Thats why they had things like the baby bonus to encourage people to have Children to replace the ageing population..
Thats the problem with older immigrants, that make Australia home and end up getting the pension or medical services and aged care etc but havent paid tax in Australia for most of their life's
Before anyone one jumps down my back about being pro population growth, on one hand i 100% agree with Blowin's view on things, but that's the heart thinking, the head thinking also understands population growth and replacement of older generation is also important.
BTW. Yes my wife is definitely the brains in our relationship.
if more and more people are choosing not to have children as a financial thing as things tighten do you think the anserw to Australia's problems are immigration before addressing the issues already present for the some of the current Australian population? Are we neglecting a free choice in someway through tightening of living costs. I am aware that it may be not possible to eliminate all costs on all levels for all families.
I believe Jenny is also the brains of this partnership https://twitter.com/mikecarlton01/status/1516891801688621056?s=21&t=vakPc5gTfFQ_ar0k9-PeCQ. 
Is this Jenny’s dad ? Same eyes
I don't know a lot about it there is al kinds of pros and cons, but i don't think we will see any great reduction in immigration rates by either LNP or Labor even though i think most people would like a reduction.
Worst case scenario, Labor scrape in and then have to jump in bed with the Greens to get bills through the senate. Wall to wall woke PC LGBTQI dominating our lives. I couldn't give a toss about peoples sexual preferences and don't need it rammed down my throat (no pun intended)on a daily basis. The pendulum is at risk of swinging too far to the left imho. According to my 14 year old niece at school these days to be cool you at least have to be bi or you're obviously not worth knowing. O.K maybe I'm just an old dinosaur and should crawl back under the rock but a lot of people I know say the same thing. A lot of these rabid lefties
don't mind you having an opinion as long as it is the same as theirs. Cheers.
how and why is it a election issue that effects the majority of Australian's.?. Most people respect equality and know how to pick the chicken out when they are not happy with it. I think people see it being used as an election issue for those who can't celebrate humanity as a whole unless it fits their set of belief's. Sexuality is a weak political argument other than the infringement of rights and personal violation of whatever sexuality that might be. Free choice in a healthy society is being attacked. Creating division in an area it need not too. The lbgti community doesn't wish to dominate social reform, rather to exist as equals regardless of sexuality.
What are the incentives for this other than a dominant faith and how widespread do you see this issue being a major concern for everyday Australians? Look back over the issues we have faced of late. I'm happy for the trans community to find support whilst respecting the rights of others. Again pick the chicken out and focus on the bigger issues so many Australians are facing. Having an opinion is good but what defines it? To the benefit of Australia as a whole.
Woke is a relatively broad word to describe allot of what people don't agree with. Woke this woke that. It adds nothing but a all embracing title of complex issues. Hate the word and how often it is used as a smear of thought rather than addressing issues. Older generation or not it has only been getting used widely in the last couple of years. Mainly in opinion pieces by various commentators. So much so we now use it to describe much with very little detail. Woke
woke, woke
/wəʊk/
alert to injustice in society, especially racism.
"we need to stay angry, and stay woke"
when all we need is to be aware of community concern and ideas, left or right regardless . Drag queens don't attack people as much as they would have us believe and vice versus. pick the chicken out and focus on more compelling issues facing Australia. Otherwise diversion just looks like making a storm in a tea cup.
Doh not good for campaigning when you're in isolation.
Probably not what the old folks in the nursing home he visited on the south coast today wanted to hear either.
"Labor leader Anthony Albanese tests positive for COVID-19"
https://www.9news.com.au/national/anthony-albanese-tests-positive-to-cov...
And the social media comment of the day i just read "Condolences to Covid-19 on being infected with Albanese"
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Some more inconvenient facts....
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Regardless of which side you're on, the people on this forum are the minority.. interested, engaged....most people in the community have been 'entertained/ terrified' into submission. Makes us buy more.
Federal elections in Oz for some time follow the very simple formula;
Swinging voter + relentless, biased Murdoch Press = LNP victory
ALP admitted it this time, gave up running a normal campaign with actual policies and will still probably lose. Which is a pretty sad indictment on their aspirant leader choice to be honest. The small target approach also means people dont really have any reason to support you either, so when you do get hit... they jump off real quick.. as the polls are showing. ALP had a sweetspot to release some real policies, missed it and now are playing catch up, but any momentum is gone.
If there was any genuine media scrutiny in this country for the swinging voter, the Jobkeeper rort of an estimated $30 bill of taxpayer money would not have left the front page in the past 2 years.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7464818/treasury-reveals-how-much...
... barely mentioned in the Murdoch press- nothing to see here....
Just one of the many examples, obviously.. rorts r'us
jshe35 wrote:Regardless of which side you're on, the people on this forum are the minority.. interested, engaged....most people in the community have been 'entertained/ terrified' into submission. Makes us buy more.
Federal elections in Oz for some time follow the very simple formula;
Swinging voter + relentless, biased Murdoch Press = LNP victory
ALP admitted it this time, gave up running a normal campaign with actual policies and will still probably lose. Which is a pretty sad indictment on their aspirant leader choice to be honest. The small target approach also means people dont really have any reason to support you either, so when you do get hit... they jump off real quick.. as the polls are showing. ALP had a sweetspot to release some real policies, missed it and now are playing catch up, but any momentum is gone.
If there was any genuine media scrutiny in this country for the swinging voter, the Jobkeeper rort of an estimated $30 bill of taxpayer money would not have left the front page in the past 2 years.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7464818/treasury-reveals-how-much...
... barely mentioned in the Murdoch press- nothing to see here....
Just one of the many examples, obviously.. rorts r'us
Pretty much in 100% agreement here. The problem as you mentioned and I have been pointing out (whinging about) is the media or fourth estate in Australia. The concentration of media ownership and how the news cycle narrative is set up and then followed by pretty much all outlets. Noam Chomsky has written about this in 'Manufacturing Consent ' As well as being pointed out by various other writers/ journalists. Even Friendlijordies did and explanation video on the situation. Before you write him off as Labor aligned comedian, he uses the work of academics and Chomsky. The data is there, again highlighted by the case mentioned of the billions of dollars being gifted via jobkeeper.
What can Labor do in this regard? Damned if you do become bold and big target, damned if you try to be small target .
It is not entirely the fault of politicians who take advantage of this situation, but the forth estate letting Australian society down. Geez the Australian press having social drinks with PM at start of campaign, cool n normal. This will have very negative flow on effects to our democracy.
As mentioned most Australians are disengaged working hard, taking care of family, coming home and watching Married at First Sight or whatever with quick glance of Murdoch paper headline. This being the case people are voting uninformed of real situation. Democracy relies on a vibrant fourth estate, and ours is very much lacking.
If Labor manage to get in they need to set up a ICAC and Royal Commission into Australian media... If not, they will be a one term govt again and the machine will again kick in gear and rip them apart ..
Read the below comment from another news paper comments section.... Not my writing but some more inconvenient facts for LNP supporters...
"The myth that is constantly trotted out by the Coalition that they are the better economic managers is patent nonsense.
And the proof:
1) The first time Australia secured triple AAA credit ratings from *all* the international credit ratings agencies was in November 2011 when Labor was in government.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-29/fitch-rating-australia/3701752
2) Australia moved from being 15th-largest economy in the world to become the world’s 12th-largest in October 2012 when Labor was in government.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-09/australia-now-12th-largest-econom...
There have only ever been two Australian treasurers who have been declared the best in the world by the top economic brains on the planet.
They were both Labor treasurers with the Libs front runner Peter Costello not even making the short list, in fact he wasn’t even a blip on the radar.
One of those honoured was Paul Keating who transformed the Australian economy.
The other was Wayne Swan who was named as one of the most influential economists in the world by Time magazine.
Thanks to Swan's brilliant stewardship during the Global Financial Crisis, Australia was one of only two countries among the 34 OECD countries that did not slide into recession and thanks to the measures he took, the only developed nation which emerged almost unscathed.
World Bank president Robert Zoellick calling it a "significant and deserved" honour, and a "tremendous achievement" and Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz declaring “The Rudd Government’s stimulus package is one of the most impressive economic policies I've seen, ever!”
It’s worth noting that Anthony Albanese has an economics degree from the university of Sydney.
Scott Morrison has a science honours degree. His honours thesis was (wait for it) a “demographical analysis of Christian Brethren assemblies in Sydney”.
Yeah that’ll come in handy (chortle)"
@andy-mac , thanks for the real facts.
Supafreak wrote:@andy-mac , thanks for the real facts.
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Haha....
They left out the deputy prime minister for the LNP in this photo collection. 
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The smiley faces the smiley faces let’s all vote for the smiley faces…not the sad faces no not them…….are you worried Labor might lose another unloseable election…..ha…it’s funny eh….and Albo….Morrison must be saying”How good is COVID”….or …I feel so blessed…ha ha.
Here you go optimist a nice smiley face that you will happily vote for . 
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That reminds me that I want to book my Sri Lankan holiday soon…lots of freedom now….nice place …good food too and accomodation much cheaper than here…….and Maldives…yep go there too….and yep super ….it looks like the unloseable election is slipping away from ya…..again.
And we think girly men are silly too….girly man.
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