2022 Election

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blindboy started the topic in Saturday, 13 Nov 2021 at 7:46am

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indo-dreaming Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 2:42pm

Ha ha havent heard that term for a while, it really was blokes island in the 80s-90s it was like a ratio of 10 guys to one girl back then, but these days there is hardly any single blokes, all families and retired couples now..

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andy-mac Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 2:42pm
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Yeah Na.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/apr/15/never-mind-the-bo...

Offcourse the Guardian are going to put their spin on it, but its pretty clear Labor and Albo dont know their left from right and are giving very mixed confusing messages on the issue..

Plus I think some of the point is offshore centres need to be used in combination with boat turn backs, for the percentage of time where a boat cant be safely turned back.

Basically you dont mess with a system that works, you cant say im going to keep operation sovereign borders, but also close all detention centres.

Well thats my take on things.

Point being Labor policy will be no different to LNP policy re offshore detention etc. Not saying good or bad, but media beat up pointed out succinctly in article.

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andy-mac Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 2:45pm

https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2022/apr/15/financial-re...

Interesting take on media bias re Phil Coorey, Scomo's go to man when questions get bit tough at press conferences.
Geez 10 person poll. Crikey the media is bad in Oz ...

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Supafreak Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 2:51pm

So indo , is a ICAC needed in this country ? and why is it , after slomo’s run in at the pub , that he hasn’t really faced the general public, just staged events at businesses where he’s thrown money into them , oh and not to forget private schools .

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indo-dreaming Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 2:53pm
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What kind of government do you think Singapore has Indo?

Not exactly sure to be honest, something unique that works very well, but might not elsewhere.

In the words of someone else that explains it better than i can.

"The term “Dictatorship” is a pejorative, and not the right term here. It implies exploitation and oppression of the people, who live in poverty while the leaders control the wealth. It implies a corrupt government. This is NOT Singapore.

Singapore has an authoritarian government. But this government has created a well functioning, First World country with a very high standard of living and many ethnic groups and religions have moved there to live the good life, in what was once part of Malaysia. Never have I seen more national and religious diversity in any city (Singapore is a country, a City-State). An Indian woman running a business told me about why she moved to Singapore, praising it and emphasizing the strong work ethic of the City-State.

Some people focus on the strict and to them, harsh, enforcement of the law here. But if anything, Americans have the same level of enforcement and far more violence towards suspects and prisoners in all states. I know this for a fact, having worked professionally in the criminal justice system in the later part of my career.

So calling Singapore a dictatorship is utterly ridiculous, misleading and envious of a hugely successful nation."

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indo-dreaming Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 4:45pm

A better summary .....Yewww!!!

Vote Scomo not Biden...i mean Albo.

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Supafreak Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 5:05pm

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Cockee Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 5:08pm

Indo way ahead in this thread. The Labor stooges on here have never had to backpedal so fast in their miserable lives as Albo makes Clive Palmer look like a genius.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 5:21pm
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Indo way ahead in this thread. The Labor stooges on here have never had to backpedal so fast in their miserable lives as Albo makes Clive Palmer look like a genius.

The first week of election campaigning really couldn't have gone any worse for Labor, the first day was just a complete train wreck but even the following days were filled with amateur hour moment's, Albo's inexperience and lack of composure with dealing with pressure are already showing, looks like a duck out of water, with a flip flopping fish in his mouth.

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seeds Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 6:15pm

Oh bugger off Cockee

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T.Edds Friday, 15 Apr 2022 at 11:03pm

Indo-Dreaming you sound like a bot. Stop trying to appear informed by reciting media one liners. You are a prime example of a the type of fuckwit that mistakes ignorance with intelligence.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:19am
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It it pretty concerning seeing all the sky news headlines peddled out in this thread. If you people actually believe the LNP are sound economic managers we are well and truly fucked. Get rid of this moron.

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Indo-Dreaming you sound like a bot. Stop trying to appear informed by reciting media one liners. You are a prime example of a the type of fuckwit that mistakes ignorance with intelligence.

Heres your last two comments (only comments I've ever noticed from you)

Both are just throw away cheap shot emotive comments backed up by nothing, come back when you can post something of substance.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:23am

The gift that just keeps on giving.

"Anthony Albanese grilled over his latest campaign mistake

Anthony Albanese has been grilled over his third campaign mistake in a week after claiming a flagship Labor policy was “fully costed”.

Anthony Albanese has been grilled over his third campaign mistake in a week after claming a signature policy was “fully costed” when it was not.

The Labor leader stopped outside church after attending a Good Friday service to offer brief remarks to the waiting media.

Repeatedly asked about the $135 million health policy, Mr Albanese walked back his earlier remarks, saying the price tag was “informed” by work from the Parliamentary Budget Office.

“All of our policies will be fully costed and fully released,” he told reporters.

Mr Albanese turned around and walked away after being asked five variations of the same question.

His backdown comes after Labor finance spokeswoman Katy Gallagher revealed the party’s plan to trial Medicare urgent care clinics had not been formally costed.

During the first week of the federal election campaign, Labor announced a $135 million policy to take pressure off emergency departments by establishing 50 Medicare urgent care centres across Australia.

When questioned about whether $135m over four years would enough to deliver the 50 clinics — given Labor promised to build an urgent care medical facility in a Brisbane suburb for $33m at the 2019 election — Mr Albanese said the policies in the 2022 campaign were different.

“There’s a different commitment, different policy,” he said on Wednesday.
Labor’s Katy Gallagher posted a statement to Twitter on Thursday evening to clarify the policy was not fully costed.

She said while the independent PBO had done work on the policy, ”for the avoidance of any confusion, has not been formally costed by the PBO”.

“All of Labor’s policies and costings will be released before the election,” Senator Gallagher said.

The coalition has seized on the remarks and used them to reinforce its case that Labor is not ready for to form a government.

“Anthony Albanese said the project was fully costed … he’s either ill-informed, not across the facts, or have they fudged the figures?” Health Minister Greg Hunt said.

“You can’t trust Labor with health because you can’t trust them with economic management.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/labor-forced-to-correc...

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Supafreak Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:48am

Yeah but the 5,500 million for nothing was fully costed in by the better economic managers. Where’s that blunder money coming from ?

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Supafreak Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:53am

I’ll see your news.com and raise you a guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/apr/16/anthony-albanese-... “ So the question for Mr Morrison is – why do you fear an anti-corruption commission? What is it you’re afraid they will find?”

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 9:40am
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The gift that just keeps on giving.

"Anthony Albanese grilled over his latest campaign mistake

Anthony Albanese has been grilled over his third campaign mistake in a week after claiming a flagship Labor policy was “fully costed”.

Anthony Albanese has been grilled over his third campaign mistake in a week after claming a signature policy was “fully costed” when it was not.

The Labor leader stopped outside church after attending a Good Friday service to offer brief remarks to the waiting media.

Repeatedly asked about the $135 million health policy, Mr Albanese walked back his earlier remarks, saying the price tag was “informed” by work from the Parliamentary Budget Office.

“All of our policies will be fully costed and fully released,” he told reporters.

Mr Albanese turned around and walked away after being asked five variations of the same question.

His backdown comes after Labor finance spokeswoman Katy Gallagher revealed the party’s plan to trial Medicare urgent care clinics had not been formally costed.

During the first week of the federal election campaign, Labor announced a $135 million policy to take pressure off emergency departments by establishing 50 Medicare urgent care centres across Australia.

When questioned about whether $135m over four years would enough to deliver the 50 clinics — given Labor promised to build an urgent care medical facility in a Brisbane suburb for $33m at the 2019 election — Mr Albanese said the policies in the 2022 campaign were different.

“There’s a different commitment, different policy,” he said on Wednesday.
Labor’s Katy Gallagher posted a statement to Twitter on Thursday evening to clarify the policy was not fully costed.

She said while the independent PBO had done work on the policy, ”for the avoidance of any confusion, has not been formally costed by the PBO”.

“All of Labor’s policies and costings will be released before the election,” Senator Gallagher said.

The coalition has seized on the remarks and used them to reinforce its case that Labor is not ready for to form a government.

“Anthony Albanese said the project was fully costed … he’s either ill-informed, not across the facts, or have they fudged the figures?” Health Minister Greg Hunt said.

“You can’t trust Labor with health because you can’t trust them with economic management.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/labor-forced-to-correc...

Oh ffs.
All this demonstrates is that the media are out to get Labor. At least Labor have some policies to announce, not like the LNP. LNP going on about costings when they made an accounting error of $60 billion. Fark and that bloke still has the job. Gifting $40 billion to Gerry and mates .... Yeah all good with better economic managers.
Why are not the media asking why Scomo is so scared of ICAC? Is it what he knew with Brittany Higgins rape case, any of the rorts, Angus Taylor's list, some MPs and their prayer room activities, why he was sacked from Tourism Australia, Robodebt and resulting suicides, investigation into Covid response, and forgetting to order vaccines, etc etc ...
How much has been paid to companies running offshore detention, what is the cost per person?
Why are these not headlines holding a government that has been in power for nearly a decade, but only out to grill Albo...
Geez Phil Coorey used a sample size of 10 people for Costello's news outlets to run headlines that Albo is unknown.
Yeah great to have different views on politics and ideas, but the purile gotcha questioning from some news outlets is pathetic, as are people believing the bs sprouted by their cheerleaders.

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 9:54am

And let's not forget Alan Tudge and $500,000 payout to his ex shag....
Nothing to see here, Albo got a figure wrong.....

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oxrox Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 10:11am

Albo telling outright lies BEFORE possibly being elected is unbelievable. I can get up and promise the world as well. How hard is it. He said fully costed numerous times. It's not full stop. That's his biggest policy announcement and only concrete one. Wow.

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 10:23am
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Albo telling outright lies BEFORE possibly being elected is unbelievable. I can get up and promise the world as well. How hard is it. He said fully costed numerous times. It's not full stop. That's his biggest policy announcement and only concrete one. Wow.

Yep Scomo never lies... Wow.
Reckon more of a stuff up than lie ...
Bad misstep by Labor in election environment, yeah no argument from me, but media applied different standards to Labor than LNP ad far as questioning goes. Scomo had lied and gaslighted so much it is just accepted.

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Albo telling outright lies BEFORE possibly being elected is unbelievable. I can get up and promise the world as well. How hard is it. He said fully costed numerous times. It's not full stop. That's his biggest policy announcement and only concrete one. Wow.

Yep Scomo never lies... Wow.
Reckon more of a stuff up than lie ...
Bad misstep by Labor in election environment, yeah no argument from me, but media applied different standards to Labor than LNP ad far as questioning goes. Scomo had lied and gaslighted so much it is just accepted.

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oxrox Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 10:55am

The difference is Andy it's when in election mode. You can't say things are fully costed and it's not when you're trying to get elected. What's he thinking? Kid's stuff. They all bullshit when they get in.
It's Labor's election to lose and doing shit like that will see they do. Of course the media is all over it. As they should be.

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Roadkill Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 10:57am

1 lie doesn’t make another lie ok.

Politicians from all sides are all full of lies.

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1 lie doesn’t make another lie ok.

Politicians from all sides are all full of lies.

Spot on. It comes in the job description.

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 11:01am
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The difference is Andy it's when in election mode. You can't say things are fully costed and it's not when you're trying to get elected. What's he thinking? Kid's stuff. They all bullshit when they get in.
It's Labor's election to lose and doing shit like that will see they do. Of course the media is all over it. As they should be.

Agree, but my main point is that most of the msm give the LNP a pretty much free ride.
Reckon was more brain fart by Albo rather than pre meditated lie. Yep he stuffed up.
Reckon Labor are pushing the proverbial up hill to win even before his mistakes amplified by msm.
My only hope is there are some land mines ready to be detonated by some of the people Scomo has burnt closer to the election date.
The guy is a corrupt spiv, I just want a proper ICAC....

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 11:59am
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The difference is Andy it's when in election mode. You can't say things are fully costed and it's not when you're trying to get elected. What's he thinking? Kid's stuff. They all bullshit when they get in.
It's Labor's election to lose and doing shit like that will see they do. Of course the media is all over it. As they should be.

Agree, but my main point is that most of the msm give the LNP a pretty much free ride.
Reckon was more brain fart by Albo rather than pre meditated lie. Yep he stuffed up.
Reckon Labor are pushing the proverbial up hill to win even before his mistakes amplified by msm.
My only hope is there are some land mines ready to be detonated by some of the people Scomo has burnt closer to the election date.
The guy is a corrupt spiv, I just want a proper ICAC....

You are seriously delusional

Scomo and LNP have been hammered by the MSM media for years especially during Covid, following Scomo around trying to get gotcha moments, but you kind of expect that as government's in power get critiqued hardest not the opposition.

But election mode is different it's a time when both leaders and parties are out there trying to sell themselves and their policies, there is no more hiding for Albo he is now playing in the real world front and centre, MSM aren't going easy on him any more just like they dont Scomo.

As we all know this week he had some pretty big FK ups, obviously due to lack of experience, while Scomo is much more experienced and savvy when in election mode.

Media are quite happy to report any fck up's no matter the side, thy just want clicks and to sell stories.

Off course if you want to ignore the fk ups you can always choose to put yourself in a Jordie's, Guardian, Crikey, Saturday paper, Michael West bubble as its clear many here have.

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 12:07pm
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The difference is Andy it's when in election mode. You can't say things are fully costed and it's not when you're trying to get elected. What's he thinking? Kid's stuff. They all bullshit when they get in.
It's Labor's election to lose and doing shit like that will see they do. Of course the media is all over it. As they should be.

Agree, but my main point is that most of the msm give the LNP a pretty much free ride.
Reckon was more brain fart by Albo rather than pre meditated lie. Yep he stuffed up.
Reckon Labor are pushing the proverbial up hill to win even before his mistakes amplified by msm.
My only hope is there are some land mines ready to be detonated by some of the people Scomo has burnt closer to the election date.
The guy is a corrupt spiv, I just want a proper ICAC....

You are seriously delusional

Scomo and LNP have been hammered by the MSM media for years especially during Covid, following Scomo around trying to get gotcha moments, but you kind of expect that as government's in power get critiqued hardest not the opposition.

But election mode is different it's a time when both leaders and parties are out there trying to sell themselves and their policies, there is no more hiding for Albo he is now playing in the real world front and centre, MSM aren't going easy on him any more just like the dont Scomo.

As we all know this week he had some pretty big FK ups, obviously due to lack of experience, while Scomo is much more experienced and savvy when in election mode.

Media are quite happy to report any fck up's no matter the side, thy just want clicks and to sell stories.

Off course if you want to ignore the fk ups you can always choose to put yourself in a Jordie's, Guardian, Crikey, Saturday paper, Michael West bubble as its clear many here have.

Yeah right Indo .. plenty of evidence put to you to prove /justify my points being raised. You just are too partisan and Murdochtised (Made up that word) to see.

Scomo has got off lightly in all regards. One of the scandals he had been involved in would have brought down a Labor leader. If you cannot see the problem with the corruption with this govt and the flow on effects this has for our democracy if they get another term in office, there is no helping you.

Who is delusional? Get back to The Herald mate ....

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"The Herald mate .."

God i wish it's sadly all paywalled, and who buys papers?

Ive shared a few news.com.au links but most of my Australian news is via ABC and despite them having to report these stories, at least on radio there has been a lot of favourable Labor stuff this week and Anti LNP stuff, which all makes sense as not only is ABC obviously left leaning but a Labor government equals Increased ABC funding.

BTW. Where's all the MSM news stories on the success of Australia in getting through Covid economically and health wise among the best in the world???

If MSM was rooting so hard for LNP as you suggest surely they would be posting this over and over, that would make the most sense to get people to vote LNP, they don't because it doesnt get clicks and sell papers, fk ups do.

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Roadkill Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 12:29pm

Overall the media has been pretty fair to both sides.

If you're an LNP indoctrinated voter, you will think otherwise. If you're an indoctrinated ALP voter, you will think otherwise. If you vote for any of the other small parties…no one gives a fuck.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 1:03pm

We did it got the Quadrella of leftist trash rags today

1. The Guardian
2. The Saturday Paper
3. Michael West
4. Crikey

Obviously not going to click on those links but you can expect a lot of excuses on how shite Albo's week has been will be made, and possibly conspiracy theories on other media pushing LNP or some other tripe.

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Sheepdog Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 1:24pm

Gee, Indo is riled up about The guardian and West media lol. He wants to stay in his murdoch bubble.
There's the difference between Bubble boy and myself. I read Samantha Maiden at NewsL AND also Kat Murphy at Guardian. I like to get both sides, then make my own mind up

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We did it got the Quadrella of leftist trash rags today

1. The Guardian
2. The Saturday Paper
3. Michael West
4. Crikey

Obviously not going to click on those links but you can expect a lot of excuses on how shite Albo's week has been will be made, and possibly conspiracy theories on other media pushing LNP or some other tripe.

These papers use full sentences without the Murdoch headlines with pictures....

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 1:32pm

Nothing like a simple slogan to appeal to quiet Australians....

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Supafreak Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 1:38pm

Taxpayers fund $55.6 billion in federal grants over less than four years
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By David Crowe
Updated April 16, 2022 — 9.25amfirst published April 15, 2022 — 10.30pm

Taxpayers have funded $55.6 billion in federal grants over less than four years under rules that give ministers sweeping powers to decide the payments, with new research fuelling an election row over calls to establish a national integrity commission to safeguard public funds.

The findings show the grants reached $20 billion last year alone across federal departments from health to transport and industry, revealing the scale of the payments and sparking a new proposal for tighter rules and stricter oversight to prevent corruption. After Prime Minister Scott Morrison refused to commit to setting up an integrity commission in the next term of parliament, former judges have stepped up their calls for a powerful watchdog and accused him of breaking his election promise three years ago to act on the problem.

Labor leader Anthony Albanese will sharpen the divide on the key issue of trust in politics on Saturday by pledging to pass laws this year to establish a federal integrity watchdog, with a challenge to Morrison to deliver on a promise made 1200 days ago. “That’s 1200 days of rorts, waste and jobs for mates,” Albanese said. “Time’s up.”

The analysis of the federal spending, conducted by the Centre for Public Integrity, shows the government issued $3.4 billion in grants in the four months after Morrison became prime minister in August 2018 and this climbed to $16.9 billion in the following calendar year. 754-C196-E-639-B-4-B7-C-B0-CB-2-C7-F21939-E8-B The total fell to $14.2 billion in 2020 before rising again to $20 billion last year, with another $1.1 billion spent on grants in the three months to the end of March.

“This is public money being spent, at times, without any criteria or reporting,” said Michael Barker, QC, a barrister who was a Federal Court judge for a decade after serving on the Western Australian Supreme Court. “With billions spent in grants through the pandemic, and billions more earmarked in this year’s budget, it is time for an overhaul of the grant administration process.” The new findings follow years of concern about the growing use of grants after criticism by the Productivity Commission and scathing reports by the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) into spending on sports facilities, commuter car parks and other projects Morrison promised at the last election.

“The audit office has revealed, repeatedly, problems with the current system and particularly the way that ministers are making grant decisions,” said Gabrielle Appleby, a law professor at the University of New South Wales.

“These decisions are uninformed by expert analysis, reasons for decisions are not recorded, and there is very little transparency and therefore accountability. “The system needs a total overhaul.”

Tracking trends in government grants is challenging, however, because the federal GrantConnect database only reports data from the beginning of 2018.
Grant spend by department
The top ten departments all spent more than $1 billion

Department of Health
17.51B
Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Communications
9.27B
Department of Social Services
5.66B
Department of Education, Skills and Employment
5.04B
National Indigenous Australians Agency
3.41B
National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC)
3.26B
Department of Industry, Science, Energy and Resources
2.8B
Australian Research Council
2.74B
Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment
1.23B
National Disability Insurance Agency (NDIA)
1.13B
Source: Centre for Public Integrity
The row over the integrity commission has highlighted different opinions among the Liberals, with Morrison dismissing the idea of a “kangaroo court” but Liberal backbenchers saying there was a case for setting up the new agency this year but not in the form Labor wants.

Bennelong MP John Alexander, who is not contesting the coming election after 12 years in parliament, called for bipartisan cooperation if the party leaders could not agree on the best model. “I don’t think it’s the worst thing if it’s being alleged that it’s very weak,” he said of the government proposal. “Float it and see where it leaks, and as it leaks, fix it up. It would be good if it’s next term we can get it started.”

The new report, based on research by Catherine Williams at the Centre for Public Integrity, recommends that all significant grants are subject to an independent assessment, strict criteria and greater transparency about the reasons for each decision. The centre is a not-for-profit think tank, which relies on donations and is not linked to any political party.

All grant programs worth less than $100 million – the size of the “sports rorts” program at the last election – would be subject to published merit selection criteria under the proposed reform. Programs worth more than $100 million would be subject to guidelines set out in legislation and approved by parliament, setting boundaries for ministers over what they could approve.

The reporting scheme would require ministers to tell parliament every three months about spending decisions where they did not follow department advice. As well, departments would have to table documents in parliament on all grant programs worth more than $100 million. The Centre for Public Integrity is expected to issue its findings in coming days with a call for a national integrity commission as another element to safeguard the use of taxpayer funds.

The new report shows all grants recorded by GrantConnect including essential work by the federal government such as grants to states for health and education, with no findings about waste or corruption. The object of the report was to highlight the money at stake and make the case for greater scrutiny. The report finds that $17.5 billion has been spent on health grants, $9.3 billion has gone on transport and infrastructure, $5.7 billion on social services and $5 billion on education, skills and employment. In a series of criticisms of political decisions over government grants, the audit office found that “funding decisions were not appropriately informed by departmental briefings” in the Safer Communities Fund and the reasons for decisions were not properly recorded.

The audit office found that applications “were not soundly assessed in accordance with the program guidelines” in the Regional Jobs and Investments Packages and warned of “insufficient scrutiny” of proposals for a $433.4 million grant to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation.

It found that aspects of the Supporting Reliable Energy Infrastructure Program “did not comply” with Commonwealth grant rules and warned of the absence of published guidelines or eligibility criteria or merit criteria in the Commuter Car Parks Program under the Urban Congestion Fund. Morrison called the May 21 election last Sunday after a federal budget that included at least $13.8 billion in programs that could fund specific grants during the campaign, separate from road and rail projects in each state.
But the Productivity Commission called five years ago for stronger oversight of transport grants because of the “relatively weak” accountability.

“With no consistent framework for allocating grants, projects made possible through such funding can be particularly subject to the political imperatives of the day, rather than determined by either the performance of roads against consistently assessed need or consistently developed service standards,” the commission said.

Warning that decisions were subject to “political suasion” over taxpayer funds, the commission called for changes to grant rules as part of a wider boost to productivity in its landmark Shifting The Dial report in 2017, most of which has not been acted upon.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/taxpayers-fund-55-6-billion-in-f...

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. Fck there’s some funny comments in this tweet

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Cockee Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 2:54pm

Andy wrote 'These papers use full sentences without the Murdoch headlines with pictures....' and 'Nothing like a simple slogan to appeal to quiet Australians....' Perhaps you should tell CBG and freakie about this - they love an unfunny/crude/forgettable meme.

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Gee, Indo is riled up about The guardian and West media lol. He wants to stay in his murdoch bubble.
There's the difference between Bubble boy and myself. I read Samantha Maiden at NewsL AND also Kat Murphy at Guardian. I like to get both sides, then make my own mind up

Id love to be able to access Murdoch media like the Australian but it now super rare to find an article that is not paywalled, ive pretty much given up trying, the only exception is news.com.au i think thats Murdoch owned, i shared a few articles recently because their headlines are dramatic, but I actually get almost all my Australian news via ABC mostly radio during the day at work but even online its my go too.

So if i have a bubble it's an ABC bubble, which is pretty sad really.

Posting stuff like Crikey, Jordie's, Michael West,Saturday paper is basically the lefts equivalent of posting Sky News links, lefties here wouldn't take it seriously and unless your a leftie your not going to take those media links seriously...Guardian okay not my thing but you can get away with it.

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Supafreak Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 3:06pm
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Andy wrote 'These papers use full sentences without the Murdoch headlines with pictures....' and 'Nothing like a simple slogan to appeal to quiet Australians....' Perhaps you should tell CBG and freakie about this - they love an unfunny/crude/forgettable meme.

You’re right cockee , there’s nothing funny about this bloke. EDCD4-CE6-3-CD9-4-FF5-87-D4-AF9-A5-B335-B6-D
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jwithay Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 3:13pm

"Fitz: Looking back on your own career, it occurs to me that as a journalist, you were a lot like the ABC’s Andrew Olle: no one would have had the first clue which way you voted. I don’t ask which way you vote now. But may I ask? Do you have strong political passions one way or another?

Ray Martin: Very strong. But back then nothing pleased me more than doing an interview with John Howard, Bob Hawke or Paul Keating, and have 50 per cent of the people say “It’s clear from that interview, you’re a card-carrying Commie, and the other half, you’re a blue ribbon Liberal.” But I do have strong political views.

Fitz: Go on?

Ray Martin: Gough’s “It’s Time” campaign was 50 years ago to the year. I think it’s time [again]. I have interviewed every Prime Minister since Bob Menzies and I think this is the most incompetent government we’ve had. It’s time."

It's time.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 3:16pm

Ray Martin really???

Someone is really scrapping the bottom of the meme barrel.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 3:19pm

Don't worry Facto only has about ten memes, and he has been posting the same ones for years.

And if everyone ignores your post, you can just quote yourself again.

Yew.

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soggydog Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 4:00pm
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Don't worry Facto only has about ten memes, and he has been posting the same ones for years.

And if everyone ignores your post, you can just quote yourself again.

Yew.

Seems to work for you. 1or 2 one eyed opinions hourly, daily, yearly.

Preaching Liberal’s superior economics while living on the “free money” a true Scott Morrison modern Liberal.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 5:02pm

Constance B Gibson : Everything that comes out of his mouth is mean girl internet bullying or a lie.

Everything that goes into his mouth is a dick.

Give it up gronk. No one wants to see your late mid life crisis unfold.

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Supafreak Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 5:12pm

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/federal-ele... Julia Banks: When voting for ‘the devil you know’ isn’t good enough

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Cockee Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 5:17pm

Got to wonder about someone who uses a girl's name as his moniker...not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. Gender confusion is very 'woke' these days so no real surprise.

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GuySmiley Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 6:19pm

Grubby school yard humour hits SN, must be some errant chaps from the young liberals .... haha snort haha

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wax24 Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 6:28pm

I think Constance B Gibson is an author. I think i remember seeing that name on a book. I always figured he was channeling that. I could look it up, but what for? My paycheck won't change with the result.

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andy-mac Saturday, 16 Apr 2022 at 7:00pm
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https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/federal-ele... Julia Banks: When voting for ‘the devil you know’ isn’t good enough

Again LNP members and supporters the standard you walk by etc etc....
Horrible corrupt individual by sounds of it our Scomo....