2022 Election
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7.30 report last night said kitching called out kennely and wong over being too soft on china...
she doesn't sound all bad
in fact, the passage of time, has proved her dead right...
bloody murdoch
haven't seen what kitching's okd man said about the mean girls...
but there was a quick flash to wong in the crowd at the funeral, ...awkward...
"Unionist Linda White is expected to replace Victorian Labor senator Kim Carr, after a backroom push in the final weeks before the election."
Still, two Whites don't make a Wong.
Suggest you watch last Sunday’s insiders on ABC on iview and listen what Sam Maiden says very very carefully sypkan.
Maiden had interviewed Kitching for an upcoming book. Maiden tells it this way, kitching was abushed by Lib Senator Linda Reynolds with a one way text message which she (Reynolds) then showed Wong. This was the start of the rot. If Maiden is to be believed Reynolds has her finger prints all over this saga.
zen zen zen...
with respect guysmiley...
there'd have to be a bit more hostility floating around than one well placed text...
kitching clearly walks to the beat of her own drum, the leftist faithful clearly don't like that sort of indepenent thought... ffs you even see it on here...
a wider 'cultural' problem one might suggest
yes party loyalty is important, but in these hyperpartisan times - where both sides seem to have wandered off into loopy land - us 'norms' like crew that can cross party lines...give us more!!!
more kitchings
more turnballs
more xenophons
more rogans and russells
and less divisive nuttery...
So you’re not interested in knowing what started the rumble? Fair enough, carry on
Im interested, and i'll check it out, I nearly always catch insiders
however, those nasty right wing murdoch people at 7.30 report and in facto's artcles have provided a litany of incidents
to say it's all just about one bitchy contrived underming text is wishful thinking at best
more dismissiveness, more excuses...
which seems to be a pattern
a pattern that impedes learning and growth
but you guys carry on...
if you really think you have nothing to learn
still...
well, anything but more cunstances and focto's...
if clowns like you had any real power we'd all be bent right over for your 'benevolent' xi right now
no thanks champ
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees
Kitching had an affair with Andrew Bolt while her husband was on the run in Costa Rica with stolen union funds.
Sam Maiden left Sky as a result of bullying accusations by junior staff.
Allegedly.
I read it, and it clearly proves there's much more afoot than one bitchy text, but guy can live on in his dismissive bubble of 'tidak apa apa' denial
again...
Don’t put words into my mouth Shep you have no idea what position is but good on you wanting politics played with a kinder gentler machine gun hand you old romantic you ....
I half read the west one, started some serious skimming pretty quickky though, ...whole heap of whataboutism going on there, and the same old shit...
as to this...
"As usual. Still not aware how the political media 'works' in this country after all these years."
seems its you that's not aware... still whinging... still whining... but no time for self reflection... just desperate deflection....
again...
the whole premise of the west article is there's no story there...
when clearly there is
as incovenient as it is...
personally i don't buy into the whole 'manslaughter' desperate narrative construction
but the whole little saga is interesting nonetheless...
definitely not the 'non story' the desperate deflectors are trying to paint it as
but carry on...
you guys love your damage control deflections
at great expense...
Gladys made the list , surprisingly
Supafreak wrote:
Wong, would now be the most hated Politician in Australia.
polls like that are so stupid, not having a go supafreak, they're interesting, but people answer a different quesion to what they are asked...
I very much doubt pauline hanson is one of the least trusted, least liked? ...yeh no doubt... but objectively, she'd be up there with most trusted... not many times she has burnt voters...
albanese most trusted... ppfffffffff.... he hasn't shown or done anything enough to make such asessments...
"Wong, would now be the most hated Politician in Australia."
whilst I believe that to be a gross gross overstatement full of misdirected hyperbolic bile... i reckon hate and like are closer to what question people were actually answering...
with the exception of morrison, that one seems accurate
both ways
Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:
Wong, would now be the most hated Politician in Australia.
Looks like they just picked names out of two hats.
And where the fuck is Dan andrews?
Surely he is among the least trusted
It's from Roy Morgan's research, a lot more info in here.
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8933-political-trust-distrust-austral...
@sypkan , I agree that these polls are both interesting and a bit stupid. I’ve even recently participated in one that was about 20 minutes long , now the bastards won’t leave me alone and always call at dinner time , so I’ve politely told them that now wasn’t a good time . Flollo’s link was a good explanation of the poll and interesting when they look back over the past years . I doubt very much that P. Wong would be the most hated politician in Australia, most people can see through the media bullshit . When it comes to slomo…….well actions speak louder than words and his popularity is evident off that .
And Jebus wept .... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/23/hillsongs-brian-houston-re...
GuySmiley wrote:And Jebus wept .... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/23/hillsongs-brian-houston-re...
"The statement said the church was praying for Houston." lol, so they are doing nothing really.
will still be on the payroll and pulling strings
typical moralising tossbag...do as I say not as I do.
Roadkill writes 'Being a christian, is like being an anti vaxer...both minds are full of bs with zero proof...and both argue they are right, no matter what'.
ALP voters beware - Albo enters church for KK's funeral, genuflects and crosses himself.
GS writes '@Optimist is a nasty piece of work alright. Just weeks ago he was on here over several days/comments casting doubt on the characters and motives of Brittany Higgins* and Grace Tame both innocent victims of sexual assault because their brave words and actions at the time were inconvenient for Morrison.'
I'd say opti had good cause given neither woman has uttered a word about 'the mean girls'.
No doubt the usual suspects will conveniently ignore these uncomfortable observations.
indo-dreaming wrote:And where the fuck is Dan andrews?
Surely he is among the least trusted
Ha ha ha. Are you starting to realise how fringe your political views are now, Indo?
Everyone who thinks they’re ‘the centre, or mildly right of centre’ are closer to the extreme right than they would ever imagine. All that noise those noisy noise-makers made was by a tiny section of society, somehow believing they were brave and speaking up for the little people. The little people were just looking at them thinking ‘go back to work you tosser’.
:-)
Not sure that the relos of those who died in aged care in Vic were saying ‘go back to work you tosser’. The fact that Dan 'didn't know' who was in charge of private security and that the Vic ALP rejected offers of Federal help doesn't change a blinded Labor voter's views (like batfink) one little bit is a genuine worry.
batfink wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:And where the fuck is Dan andrews?
Surely he is among the least trusted
Ha ha ha. Are you starting to realise how fringe your political views are now, Indo?
Everyone who thinks they’re ‘the centre, or mildly right of centre’ are closer to the extreme right than they would ever imagine. All that noise those noisy noise-makers made was by a tiny section of society, somehow believing they were brave and speaking up for the little people. The little people were just looking at them thinking ‘go back to work you tosser’.
:-)
Have you been asleep for the last few years???
Dan Andrews has easily been one of the most hated politicians in recent times, and im sure not very trusted, as we all know polls these days mean very little and often not very accurate.
As for my political views being fringe im not sure how you come to that conclusion seeing they are pretty much inline with the LNP you know the major party that's been in power about 47 of the last 70 years and 19 of the last 25 years, my views are more mainstream than they ever have been.
When i was young and dumb and a Greens voter then yeah my views were much more fringe.(and very unrealistic and naive)
But like someone wisely said here not long ago, "If your young and not a socialist then you have no heart, but if your old and not a conservative, you have no brain"
I agree @batfink, mores the pity that some think their own little bubble represents the real world when in fact their position is out there on the fringe. In @info's case I'm not sure how he will cope at the end of the year when it is highly likely the only LNP govt in AU will be in Tassie.
The Kitching saga is one stoush the PM should have resisted https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-kitching-saga-is-one-stoush-...
Her husband didn’t resist calling Labor out so why shouldn’t Morrison after the flogging Labor has given him on every possible occasion…serious??
https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/03/21/the-true-story-of-kimberley-kitchin...
Guy Rundle of Crikey wrote a detailed and incisive piece on the Kitching saga (that unfortunately now seems to be locked) that covered many extremely pertinent angles of the affair that the MSM didn't care to mention. The whole thing is a mess.
Yep read that Jwithay, what a mess.
Optimist wrote:Her husband didn’t resist calling Labor out so why shouldn’t Morrison after the flogging Labor has given him on every possible occasion…serious??
Albo needs to answer some questions. Pressure needs to be applied so people can understand how he performs in these situations.
However, that doesn't make Scomo innocent across a long list of issues he created. The article rightly points out the problem with Scomo choosing this fight instead of choosing peace and preparation for the budget announcement. The point is, Scomo needs to leave the heat to the media and Albo to sort out while focusing on his job which he's not doing well enough.
Optimist wrote:Her husband didn’t resist calling Labor out so why shouldn’t Morrison after the flogging Labor has given him on every possible occasion…serious??
Morrisons understanding of women and his response to sexual assault allegations give him zero authority or credibility to call out Labor.
Albo and Morrison are both pissweak on this issue
Laura Tingle has an incisive take on the Kimberley Kitching allegations.
flollo wrote:Optimist wrote:Her husband didn’t resist calling Labor out so why shouldn’t Morrison after the flogging Labor has given him on every possible occasion…serious??
Albo needs to answer some questions. Pressure needs to be applied so people can understand how he performs in these situations.
However, that doesn't make Scomo innocent across a long list of issues he created. The article rightly points out the problem with Scomo choosing this fight instead of choosing peace and preparation for the budget announcement. The point is, Scomo needs to leave the heat to the media and Albo to sort out while focusing on his job which he's not doing well enough.
100% correct, Morrison should try and act dignified and leave the muck raking to his minions. Albo is coming across as a weak do nothing coward. This mess won’t go away for Labor anytime soon.
With the greatest respect to KK what is this all about?
Politics since Roman days has been a dirty rotten business. KK belonged to a faction that oversaw her placement in the senate when Conroy resigned ie she was the beneficiary (at someone else’s expense) of the factional power plays inside Labor (all parties have them). Sure it would be stressful to have your preselection questioned (just ask the 3 Sydney Liberal MPs in that situation atm) but this happens in all parties at every election.
Sure KKs opinions differed from others like that doesn’t happen every minute of every day in parliament on both sides of the house.
It’s dirty and KK was a beneficiary of that system. Politicians fight to be preselected, fight to be heard, fight to stay there. I couldn’t do it nor could the vast majority of the population, it’s shitful.
KK has serious underlying health issues which resulted in her tragic death. The everyday stress of job didn’t help.
Now, Brittany Higgins was a staffer who deserved a safe workplace nd her rape was covered up by at least 2 liberal ministers and possibly the PM, we still don’t know who knew what and why the PM (apparently) wasn’t told.
GuySmiley wrote:With the greatest respect to KK what is this all about?
From what I can tell, its as simple as damaging Labor using whatever means available. And as for the dissent within the party itself, bitterness and trying to shore up positions and influence.
Ugly, the lot of it. In stark contrast to the incredible speech delivered by Craig Foster at the NPC yesterday. More coverage of that please, less of this KK mess.
Slomo couldn’t lie straight in bed . Does he think continuously lying goes unnoticed ? https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/03/24/havent-been-at-hillsong-morrison-ho... https://twitter.com/mikecarlton01/status/1506797238143492100?s=21
Funny all the lefties getting their knickers in a knot over the mean girls issue, making any excuse they can
If Anal/Albo gets elected you guys are going to have to get use to it it's 2022 if you havent noticed that's how the media and politics works these days they take something and flog it.
Maybe there will be a honeymoon period if lucky. but once thats gone Albo will also be responsible for any other negative event be it a natural disaster or world hunger and the camera will be on him 24/7 looking for any slight fuck up that will be great for social media click bait.
indo-dreaming wrote:Maybe there will be a honeymoon period if lucky. but once thats gone Albo will also be responsible for any other negative event be it a natural disaster or world hunger and the camera will be on him 24/7 looking for any slight fuck up that will be great for social media click bait.
This is true. But it's also true that one's character and integrity get shaped and demonstrated through these situations. The modern expectation is that person in charge needs to deal with 24/7 camera attention effectively. When successful, it will build trust and confidence in the population.
It's not a question of left or right, it's a question of empathy, professionalism, and integrity. And if one can't tick these boxes to a satisfactory standard then he/she is not fit for the job.
indo-dreaming wrote:But like someone wisely said here not long ago, "If your young and not a socialist then you have no heart, but if your old and not a conservative, you have no brain"
Wasn't that an Andrew Bolt quote Indo!!
I reckon you would be surprised how many are actually the opposite of that. There would be a lot of 50 plus year old middle incomers like myself seeing the obscene wealth of the boomers just in front of us and the struggling Gen Yer's behind us and going "fuck this things need to change". If that's socialism bring it on. It's better than putting up with the pigs at the trough every day.
garyg1412 wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:But like someone wisely said here not long ago, "If your young and not a socialist then you have no heart, but if your old and not a conservative, you have no brain"
Wasn't that an Andrew Bolt quote Indo!!
I reckon you would be surprised how many are actually the opposite of that. There would be a lot of 50 plus year old middle incomers like myself seeing the obscene wealth of the boomers just in front of us and the struggling Gen Yer's behind us and going "fuck this things need to change". If that's socialism bring it on. It's better than putting up with the pigs at the trough every day.
Some poster posted it here a few months ago, that was the first time id heard it, although Id heard similar quotes from Johnny Ramone.
Curious i had a bit of a google, it seems to have been used in slightly different wordings over time, the oldest use of the quote was used by the 2nd USA president John Adams in 1799 and again in early 1800 in French politics, Winston Churchill also used it and yes I'm sure many others like Bolt have used it.
And im sure it will be used in the next few hundred years by many others too, because it rings soo true..
slomo the compassionate christian
. https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/jacqui-lambies-secret-deal-wit...Wow.. what a prick Morrison is https://t.co/k3tKUFlkOg
— Politic@l Spinner (@lesstenny) March 24, 2022
Morrison the pathological liar
Amazing how quick the lefties are to try to divert attention back to Scomo. KK and mean girls? Nothing to see here folks - I just found (another) random (lame) article about Scomo!
Cockee wrote:Amazing how quick the lefties are to try to divert attention back to Scomo. KK and mean girls? Nothing to see here folks - I just found (another) random (lame) article about Scomo!
Nothing to do with lefties.
Morrison just supplies far more material of complete failure at all levels of governance and waste.
Still cannot believe they gave away $40 bil for SFA.
It seems we are doing better with climate policy than the media are saying.
We currently have the highest solar uptake in the world with 30% of homes now done thanks to massive Govt. rebates. Our carbon emissions are dropping 5.3% per year or nearly 28 million tons annually. Our tree planting program with a target of 20 million trees planted is now at a massive 29 million trees thanks to the Govts program nobody talks about. On our current trajectory we will smash our targets without signing up to any foreign enforced paperwork which would infringe on our sovereignty. Perhaps concerned people should be pointing climate fingers at China and the US instead of our local pollies who, of whatever brand or persuasion , seem to be doing OK all on their own.
Optimist wrote:It seems we are doing better with climate policy than the media are saying.
We currently have the highest solar uptake in the world with 30% of homes now done thanks to massive Govt. rebates. Our carbon emissions are dropping 5.3% per year or nearly 28 million tons annually. Our tree planting program with a target of 20 million trees planted is now at a massive 29 million trees thanks to the Govts program nobody talks about. On our current trajectory we will smash our targets without signing up to any foreign enforced paperwork which would infringe on our sovereignty. Perhaps concerned people should be pointing climate fingers at China and the US instead of our local pollies who, of whatever brand or persuasion , seem to be doing OK all on their own.
Aint nothing to do with the Feds Opti. All due to state based incentives and a population who want to do something. Captain Coal and Gussie "plough that grassland" Taylor have held us back significantly. Head of the UN also reckons we can do better.
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