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Yeah , you’re right Ben.
Scotty is now a reliable source of truth. He’s not the sort of bloke who would abandon a relationship in search of power or advantage. Totally take his opinion as gospel.
Let’s not forget a year ago when Scotty would have us believe that Xi Jinping was an honest upright fella .....
Blowin, are you really saying that breaking into the capitol is fair game for a protest?
'I’m pretty sure if you’re looking for a dictator who asks permission and seeks democratic outcomes whilst obeying the courts of the land that you won’t find many actual dictators bloke.'
This is why I said 'would-be'. He doesn't seek democratic outcomes, he wants exactly the opposite! He wants the votes, the will of the people, to be overturned to allow him to stay in power. He tried to do this through the courts, but couldn't, as his claims were made up, so he then tried to pressure various people responsible for the process to change it. This is completely and totally the opposite to democracy. These are the actions of a would-be dictator. So is whipping up the chaos we see now.
Boy Blowins list of 'fake news' and 'liars' is going to be extremely long after the next few weeks as more and more outlets, politicians and people say things that contradict his opinions (thus meeting all the criteria to be declared fake news).
And now Justin Trudeau.
Pops....I think it’s a bunch of people who believe that they’ve been sidelined by democracy again. Trump has certainly not disinclined any of them about feeling this way. Was the election rigged ? Fucked if I know. I don’t for a second believe that it’s beyond the realms of possibility.
There are people who would do anything for power. Not sure how one side would have us think that rigged elections are the stuff of fiction after pushing 4 years of rigged election propaganda themselves.
Regardless.....I think it’s just another protest. It doesn’t look violent- yet - and there is the entire world’s media gagging to record violence. I’m sure that some retards amongst that mob think that by stinking up a building they are staging a coup but to me it just looks like a bunch of hopeful flag wavers.
I haven’t seen a single bit of violence and no destruction or arson.
When Craig is describing someone stamping on an unattended camera as a lunatic then my bullshit radar pings. Sure he’s a freak but I can’t see the True Bezerker narrative that the MSM is pushing.....can you ?
PS...I do think it’s sus that the mob got into the building without any sign of violence or gunplay. I haven’t even seen any guns. I’m sure they are there but all I see is flags and placards being waved by overweight and mostly elderly people. Not quite the militia led coup that the msm have been wet dreaming about for 6 months....so they just make one up instead.
To save you double-checking, 'insurrection' means "a violent uprising against an authority or government."
JQ....you are just digging your hole deeper bloke.
Dictator/ would be dictator- I know what you mean and I know that it ruins you not being able to peddle you LIES unopposed. Give it up mate. None of it is true . Time to stop believing you can fly before you hurt yourself Peter Pan .
Ben.....What violence?
Justin Trudeau......lol.
Canada’s very own gender neutral equivalent of Scott Morrison.
Ah, another world leader poo-pooed by Blowin (guess he went against Blowin's opinions). What would they know anyway, haven't they read the world according to Blowin?
Extraordinary scenes of a mob storming the building and threatening the peaceful transition of power which is one of the central tenets of a functioning democracy.
To have Trump sowing that wind and then reaping the whirlwind is vile, but his whole presidency has been based on a nudge and a wink to vile forces.
That being said, I do agree with Blowin to the extent that this is not a coup or even insurrection and vastly overblown by the media.
It's disgruntled wankers making cnuts of themselves, whipped up by Trump.
Many questions that will take a long time to be adequately addressed.
Ben....Rather than repeatedly providing partisan political opinions from shockingly unreliable fuckstiks such as Mitt Romney - a man you wouldn’t trust to water your house plant whilst you went away for the weekend - why don’t you provide evidence that it’s more than just a mob of flag waving protesters ?
The SMH described it as a siege.....FFS.
Blowin, you're a shameless liar.
It is absolutely true, Trump did try to get the guy in Georgia to 'find votes' for him after his court cases failed. He did allude to and/or threaten him with legal consequences.
It is absolutely true, Trump does want the will of the people discarded, he wants their votes ignored.
It is absolutely true that the above is the polar opposite to democracy.
You should attempt to rejoin reality before you fall too far down the rabbit hole Blowin. Much like the Trump supporters, you will butt heads with reality eventually. I know it is comforting to just spout 'fake news' to anything you don't like, but it doesn't actually change reality.
Most of all, for being smart enough to recognise this, but choosing not to. You are gutless, a gutless, shameless coward.
Paging VicLocal.
VicLocal report immediately to the 'United States (!) of A page please.
An internet chat room state of emergency has been declared and your input is required URGENTLY.
I'm not sure there's any kind of evidence that'll sway your opinion, Blowin.
You can't even seem to agree that storming the equivalent of Parliament House, in order to shut down the vote certification of the Presidential Election, was in any way a security threat. It was nothing more than "a bunch of people waving flags peacefully", as you wrote 45 mins ago.
'why don’t you provide evidence that it’s more than just a mob of flag waving protesters'
Well, unfortunately a woman has died now. Don't think flag waving did that.
They stopped being protesters when they broke and entered into the building.
A statement from Vermonts Republican Governor Phil Scott -
"Make no mistake, the President of the United States is responsible for this event," Mr Scott said.
"President Trump has orchestrated a campaign to cause an insurrection that overturns the results of a free, fair and legal election.
"The fact is the results of this election have been validated by Republican governors, conservative judges and non-partisan election officials across the country.
"There is no doubt that the President's delusion, fabrication, self-interest and ego have led us, step by step, to this very low and very dangerous moment in American history.
"The fabric of our democracy and the principles of our republic are under attack by the President. Enough is enough. President Trump should resign or be removed from office by his Cabinet, or by the Congress."
I would agree with the Governor here, President Trump has orchestrated a campaign to cause and insurrection that overturns the results of a free, fair and legal election.
These are the actions of a would be dictator, with no respect or desire for democracy.
JQ, to be fair, (at least as far as ABC is reporting), the woman was a protestor shot by police.
In no way am I using that to defend the protestors.
"Citing the two nations’ close historic friendship, and Australia’s long history of supporting American military interventions, Scott Morrison has told Donald Trump that Australia will provide immediate support for America in its war against arch-enemy America.
“I didn’t even let him finish his sentence,” Mr Morrison told journalists today. “Donald said he was planning to go to war, and I said, ‘You don’t even need to tell me who it’s with, we’re there with you. Just tell us what you need and it’s yours.
“That’s what mates do. We were there shoulder-to-shoulder in Bagdad, we were there shoulder-to-shoulder in Kabul, and we’ll be there in – sorry just checking my notes here – we’ll be there in Washington DC too”.
Critics were quick to denounce the announcement, saying it was yet another example of Australia signing up to a war it couldn’t win. “Once again, we’re off to help the US invade a poor, dysfunctional nation without any plan for rebuilding it later,” one foreign analyst said.
Australia will send 500 troops who will be stationed in a small shopping mall in New Hampshire."
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/01/07/australia-agrees-to-send-troops-...
Statement from General James Mattis (Trumps former secretary of defense) via news.com.au
""Today's violent assault on our Capitol, an effort to subjugate American democracy by mob rule, was fomented by Mr Trump," General James Mattis says.
"His use of the presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice.
"Our Constitution and our republic will overcome this stain, and we the people will come together again in our never-ending effort to form a more perfect union, while Mr Trump will deservedly be left a man without a country.""
I'd agree entirely with the Generals assessment here - this was an effort to subjugate American democracy. The actions of a would-be dictator.
Classic Westie.
JQ is yours from The Shovel too?
Capital Hill [Back in 5] Bollard is bowled over by Usher of the Black Baseball Bat.
Thankfully Trump's inhouse shaky Tiktok selfie cam spooked the angry siege.
Greatest Vote & Pandemic in US history & Trump deploys a bollard to hold the fort.
No Worries as Trump's Razor Wall instantly rises behind his path of destruction.
US Elections require an Amazon Jungle for the Ply sheeting + Armed Goon counts.
Yet today, as the Presidents face off, a lone bollard held back his angry mob.
President demands a sacrifice so puts Vice Prez Head on the chopping block ...
Porn Star President says his insurgents may have been a little bit naughty.
Proud Boys proudly claim it was ANTIFA wot smashed up USA seat of Democracy.
Biden: 'American People are gonna stand up! Enough is Enough is Enough!'
Vote will resume tonight...assuming Flags will fly at half mast?
*Law enforcement officials said, "One woman was shot & killed by Capital Police."
Whoah! Just backtrack a bit ...Wot did that Official just say?.... Crew! Pause!
No US cop ever admits to killing a civilian, especially not inside the Capitol?
This is insane...surely this sad event will overpower proceedings.
Deplorable pollies called for continuation of vote without thought of Capital murder.
Biden above all must release a statement of integrity.
Count can't continue in a murder investigation scene..no one is above the law.
Can you imagine that new president walks over women's corpses to get his badge.
No new president will want blood on his hands...this ain't gonna end well.
Holding or Moving the vote due to a Murder opens a new can of worms.
Trump's gift horse is waving a get outta jail free card... A truckload of legal anomaly.
Trump may buy an extra year of illegal Capital vote wrongdoing & wranglings!
If Trump says that the vote is off...due to murder investigation!
Would the Democrats be so heartless to argue that death of a woman comes 2nd ?
In 2021 can a dead body really be swept under the carpet...Wow! I mean Wow!
oh, what a golden day this promises to be. take a comfy seat and sit back...
we've only seen the beginning of blowin's pathetic, whining, desperate and apologistic defense of mega-loser trump and his band of republican coup de fails.
Coup, fascist and dictator - hysterical language.
And what words would you choose Andy?
If you ever needed proof that modern partisan politics has descended into proxy contact team sport for milquetoast boomers of declining cognition the above comment by Chook should provide all the evidence you need.
They care not that both “ teams “ in their chosen sport are as equally corrupt and incompetent as each other , just that their “ side “ appears to have won the love of their MSM team*.
* Picking MSM outlets as their champion in the propaganda wars is also as close as the milquetoast boomer gets to visceral vitality beyond their thrice weekly bowel movement.
Andy - Hysterical language indeed .Can you imagine surfing with these crew ?
A three foot wave is called for a death set, a wobbegong becomes a white pointer and a bog rail cutty on the shoulder transforms into a throaty , blind , foam ball tube ride.
Funny, you didn't seem to think it was hysterical language all the times you used it Blowin, oh wait, you were describing those you hate.
Yeah JQ.
Here’s the berserker militia staging your “ coup “ bloke
It's charming stuff really.
^^ I'm more interested in the wombat and wave pictures, ha!
Seriously crazy business. For all the fake news/ media hype comments, plenty of current US representatives from both sides are calling it the same way. Even Blowin’s fave goto reference, MacroBusiness, headline it as “US on brink of civil war as Trump supporters storm capitol”. Trump may not be a dictator but he is certainly a very naughty boy; a sore loser busy shitstirring withe very little thought to the possible consequences. Good riddance.
You forgot to put your pic into context Blowin, that photo is taken after they have forced their way past police, trespassed on the Capitol building property and then broken and entered into the building.
Given that a few months ago, when BLM protestors and rioters were in the area you were of the opinion that merely being on the streets 30 minutes BEFORE curfew was justification to be subject to arrest and/or violence at the hands of the police.
I can scarcely imagine what you would deem an appropriate response to this.
Then again, the BLM people are one of your targets of hate. These guys, while I doubt you agree with much that they say, hate the same people, which seems to be good enough for you.
what kind of fcuking brain dead idiot would film himself and his pals committing felony offences?
Social rejects taking photos of themselves for Facebook is now a coup ....lol.
BLM burned , looted , assaulted, robbed , destroyed, vandalised and murdered .
Can you spot the difference bloke ?
Maybe you should have described them as “would be militia “ . That seems to let you mentally bridge the gap between reality and your weird fantasies .
https://twitter.com/oliviamunn/status/1346948203447422980
Look, here's Blowins harmless mates, hand to hand combat with the police. No problem though, nothing to worry about.
I can spot the difference Blowin, one group you hate, the other you don't mind because they hate just like you.
When did I describe this lot as a militia?
Bit rich for you to talk about gap between reality and fantasy, you've systemically purged any source of information that conflicts with your twisted world view.
Pretty confronting how different your standards are to call something a 'coup, insurrection, traitorous' etc based on who's doing it. Careful, you bias is hanging right out there in the open for all to see mate. You seem unable to recognise it, but you're looking like an absolute clown.
I think trying to justify or excuse it based off some twisted equivalence is particularly juvenile.
Hand to hand combat !
Youre addicted to hyperbole bloke.
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Here's a classic parody clip of the battle for the White House ,, it was made last year but it's still relevant I think.
geez the bias and hysterics are running thick...
6 months of 'peaceful protests', ...including a failed attempt to storm the house, that ONLY resulted in the attempted burning down of the capital's house chapel... but that's all forgotton... somehow...
"When Craig is describing someone stamping on an unattended camera as a lunatic then my bullshit radar pings. Sure he’s a freak but I can’t see the True Bezerker narrative that the MSM is pushing.....can you ?"
hysterics indeed
antifa have actually been 'attacking' the 'media' for six months, but barely a peep from msm...
...and citing some of the most questiionable leaders from both sides of politics as any kind of authority...
ha ha ha...
what stands out to me, so so so much....
in the starkest of starkness!
is how trump's media 'allies', ...are actually reporting what's actually happening....
who would've thought? ...reporting reality...
a novel idea
short memory ...must have a...
shoorrrr....rrrrtt memory...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1346989752910692363
Hi Sypkan,
'geez the bias and hysterics are running thick...'
I agree, Blowins contributions today have reeked of shameless bias.
'6 months of 'peaceful protests', ...including a failed attempt to storm the house, that ONLY resulted in the attempted burning down of the capital's house chapel... but that's all forgotton... somehow...'
Who's forgetting? Is this some imaginary boogeyman perhaps? I've seen loads of comparisons today, I think the comparison of the police response is particularly noteworthy.
Havent been following it too much but looks like bad form by Trump and his supporters, you just lower yourself to the level of Antifa and BLM with that kind of stuff.
It's way lower than that Indo, sure Antifa and a small amount of people involved with the BLM stuff were violent. But this is next level, this is an attempt (how ever poorly executed) to directly interfere with the mechanism of democracy for their political benefit.
This action had the goal of disenfranchising millions of Americans, stripping them of their participation in democracy. This is fundamentally and deeply anti-democratic.
'mostly non-violent protests' were the antifa catch phrase.
Just saw the Capitol on the news and the visuals look like a modern storming of the Bastille. The symbolism is huge. Notice far less property damage than antifa/BLM.
The flag of the Confederate States of America walked through the Capitol building, wow.
I think the people doing it are there because they reckon stopping election counting in the middle of the night and then re-opening counting again at 4am with a massive switch in lead is not legit. Courts seem to think it's legit, so there you go.
US is about to go full leftist theocracy, and so will clamp down on any dissidents on climate, race, gender etc. They will do the green new deal bubble (this will be good and fundamentally remake their infrastructure, reducing their dependence on imported oil, put people to work and maybe even reduce CO2 outputs) and markets will remain open (they need inflows of capital to keep it all going) so opportunities will still be there. Depending on your political stance the Rubicon (for the left, storming of Capitol; for the right, election fraud) has been crossed. Doesn't look good for the everyday people there.
The only thing we need to be mindful of, here in Oz, is their military and trade positioning vis a vis China, for that is the great power contest of our times, and affects us more than anything else. There have been some certainties released by the USN recently, at least.
agree basically VJ but as far as this goes: "US is about to go full leftist theocracy, and so will clamp down on any dissidents on climate, race, gender etc"
you reckon?
still a liberal democracy isn't it, with strong free speech protections.
Biden is about as centrist as they get, can't see him bringing in the woke theocracy.
what makes you think they will?
To be fair VJ, I reckon to say 'mostly non-violent protests' about the events of today is probably fair. All the pictures I've seen show thousands of Trumpists outside, but only a few hundred or so actually broke in.
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