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OK blokes. One Nation is absolutely pro coal. They can't get enough of it, but they also claim we need to massively reduce immigration because of environmental concerns.
Like said, fair weather environmentalists.
Is that all you got? Is that it? All piss and wind VL
You still haven't quantified it in any way, shape or form.
How many people?
I'm not saying there are none, but you haven't justified basically calling people who question immigration, fake environmentalists and closet racists.
You're dribbling shit again.
How about Dick Smith? He ran the "depopulate to protect the environment" line, and he had plenty of people clapping and cheering him a few years ago. Even after he jumped into bed with Pauline Hanson and became pro-coal.
I'm not saying that everyone who wants to protect the environment by reducing immigration is a racist. Not at all. But there are people who happily jump from environmental defender to right wing populism pretty bloody often.
"you're most welcome to a different opinion unless of course its based on ... fake stats, or just made up bullshit."
You're backpedaling pretty vigorously from the word "shitloads" now Vic.
"there's absolutely nothing in it to support your bizarre theory ...
Just own it mate."
How many people?
Wow AndyM do you want me to poll the nation and get back to you on that?
Here's another example of an anti-immigration "environmentalist". Remember the Liberal MP in Western Sydney who banged on about refugees filling up hospitals and freeways? She was arguing for reduced immigration to reduce traffic congestion, while being part of Abbott's anti-environment government. She won a seat in parliament with her faux pro-environmental / anti immigrant agenda.
Yeah if you're going to say something pretty egregious like those who question levels of immigration are racist, you'd better back it up.
And that's a very poor example above.
Complaining about crowded hospitals and roads isn't an environmental platform.
Mate I'm outta here, I think I've proved my point.
Live up to your own standards and don't talk bullshit.
Also AndyM. Most right wing populist parties across the western world oppose any action on climate change.
They simultaneously hold an anti-environment agenda while being enthusiastic "environmentalists" when it comes to immigration policy. Tell me again where I'm wrong with that analysis. .
Senator Gerard Rennick:
"It is time immigration levels were reduced so communities can deal with infrastructure, the environment and skills shortages."
There's another person with faux concern for the environment while giving immigrants a kicking.
"How about Dick Smith? He ran the "depopulate to protect the environment" line, and he had plenty of people clapping and cheering him a few years ago. Even after he jumped into bed with Pauline Hanson and became pro-coal.
I'm not saying that everyone who wants to protect the environment by reducing immigration is a racist. Not at all. But there are people who happily jump from environmental defender to right wing populism pretty bloody often."
It was a while back but i dont think Dick smiths views where all about the environment, while that might have been part of it, i think it was more about quality of life and not destroying what we love about this country and just wanting the issue on the table and for us to just think about what kind of country we want do we want to be like an overcrowded Asian country or like USA etc, which is the same way i take Blowins view, what i read from him is more a fear of losing the Australia that he loves.
I also dont remember Dick smith being pro coal? (maybe he was? i will have to google and see what he said)
But yeah he seemed to only get support from One Nation for his concern about unsustainable population growth, not his fault, im sure if the Greens had taken him under their wing with the issue he would have gone there too.
BTW Dick has been very pro nuclear in the past though as has Bill gates but thats just because nuclear is really the smartest energy source out there, so much energy for so little, but yeah the cost thing is an issue...anyway lets not get into a discussion about nuclear.
I personally look up to both of them, i just find them really balanced i dont think you can label either right or left wing, to me they are very central in their views.
Maybe I'm naive but for super rich business men, i think they also have their hearts in the right place, i have a lot of respect for both.
BTW. I think you can also care about the environment or different environmental issues, and still understand the importance or reality of countries still needing coal as we transition to renewables or just not be over the top on every environmental issue, actually understanding that its all about take and give and all about balance.
Thats the frustration i find with some groups or people, just the unrealistic anti anything view, mining of any kind, dams, gas, whatever..
So Dick Smith ran an anti-immigration agenda, backed Hanson big time, and is pro coal, but you don't think he's right wing.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO K.
Whatever floats your boat Indo.
"Senator Gerard Rennick:
"It is time immigration levels were reduced so communities can deal with infrastructure, the environment and skills shortages."
There's another person with faux concern for the environment while giving immigrants a kicking."
This is what I'm talking about - Rennick is a boy from a property outside a proper bush town.
How would you know if his concerns are fake?
What would you know?
SFA.
How would you know if his concerns are fake?
See https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/queensland/gerard_rennick/po...
Like i said i think he latched onto One Nation because they were the only party willing to help him get his concerns about population growth out there, im sure if the Greens had grabbed his arm and supported him on the issue he would have also gone there.
Him being pro coal..argh yes the skit thing he did, i googled and now remember.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/dick-smith-calls-for-plebiscite-on-coal-in-v...
He also said
SBS tells lies about me! This article says I've rubbished renewables. Not true! I'm pro renewables, Unfortunately the claims that renewables are cheaper than coal are not true https://t.co/5bqjthEU12
— Dick Smith (@DickSmithFairGo) November 30, 2018
And https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE1... (its paywalled but you still get the run down on the story)
And it is true what he says, renewables are cheap when you have another source of energy to support renewables, but they aren't as cheap when you have to factor in the cost of storage solutions.
Anyway if Dick is right wing and i somehow overlooked it, well id be stoked, i love the guy.
And https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-23/lnp-senate-candidate-gerard-renni...
I've also had a quick look at his submission re the APBC Act and it's scary anti-science anti environment stuff.
Rennick may say he is passionate about the environment but all his parliamentary work indicates that is complete bullshit.
I personally wouldn’t think of any of those people as environmentalists and to link D Smith with racism is disingenuous. If you’re wanting to call people out for bullshit best you crawl out of the sewer first. As they say down at the temple it’s a confident man that farts in India.
what a mind blowingly dumb self righteous twat one track is....
mr. black and white, mr. right and left
(whilst seemingly having little understanding of either..)
mr. us and them....
it is perfectly possible for someone to have respect for their country and environment and not be an anti coal zealot
and boris johnson's 'populist' party puts many counties to shame with their climate change policies
you would have to be the dumbest (reasonably) well educated person I have ever come across, ever
so divisive, so arrogant, so ignorant, so self delusional, and so outright counter productive
'Like i said i think he latched onto One Nation because they were the only party willing to help him get his concerns about population growth out there, im sure if the Greens had grabbed his arm and supported him on the issue he would have also gone there.'
absolutely
but the greens were still dancing in the fairy garden back then...
and that's probably one of the biggest mistakes the greens have made
besides that other one...
Rubbish sypkan.
Rennick pushes a bullshit theory about the BOM is manipulating their data, so there’s no need to do anything about non existent climate change. The bloke is batshit crazy. Rennick is up there with Roberts and Kelly in terms of anti environment nutjobbery. He doesn’t give a fuck about the environment except when he can play the race card.
Like I said before, there’s plenty of part time environmentalists who only come out to play when immigrants can be scapegoated.
not neccesarily talking about rennick, one track...
but you're still wrong
so wrong
in so many ways
Not sure how we missed ABC Q&A
Trump ~ Lost Popular Vote + Impeached + Lost Re-election .
Q : So how many times has that happened before?
A : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-24/trump-joins-one-term-us-president...
Trump : Will never ever concede nor does he have to. ( No precedent )
There is talk of Trump contesting this election everyday forever until we all die!
Trump: Will forbid Biden entry to the White House unless he answers fraud claims.
So now Joe must answer 3 riddles to enter the Kingdom...(This is the new Quest!)
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trumps-fi...
Law : Trump can't refuse Biden entry as much as Biden can't evict Trump.(Maybe!)
This article goes further than most, but it doesn't address Emergency security rule.
Trump has been reserved with Emergency powers...he can press stop anytime!
https://www.livescience.com/what-if-president-rejects-election-results.html
Noon Jan 20 / 2021~ Biden's Secret Service evicts Trump/s secret Service.
Assumes Emergency President's Secret Service are under command of New Prez.
When did the President call off Emergency & can the new Prez override that?
Now that's starting to look more like a South American coup than Good Ol' USA.
This will likely play out, as Trump said he'll be there on the day & he means it!
Imagine ordering the Military to remove an Emergency President from office!
You'd wanna do that right before you step anywhere near more of his booby traps.
Trump will ham up his coup D'etat to play out during 'His National Emergency.'
New President Biden may have unknowingly committed a crime against the State.
Reason tbb says that...each time Dems are asked of this the answer is more stupid!
Come the day & Dems won't be any wiser...Republicans are given a freebie.
Keep saying it...Biden has gotta catch up & look at least half as stupid as Trump.
Biden must know exactly what to do before D day....World sees he hasn't a clue!
Nor does the Last Dem' president, they look stupid & weak! Trump feeds off it!
How will the Dems handle foreign coups if they keep tripping over their own.
This is getting too painful to watch our ally sinking without a trace.
Trump sets another new precedent daily...'we'll just get 10,000 more lawyers'.
Each new day becomes more apparent that the Dems are even more dumbstruck.
Get with the program & get ahead of Trump or he will steal your election!
Who here thinks he can't! Read the sign > [ State of Emergency President Trump ]
PS: tbb will give the Dems a free leg up...
Well, ya know how experts say Trump needs to swing heaps of votes to win.
It was never about winning in court...focus on those foreign voting machines.
eg: Here's a copy of tomorrows Fake News...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995409/Former-head-U-S-electio...
The sacking of Homeland Security "Cyber Security"...
Revenge Fake Vote Porn Orgy !
Trump is screaming to the world that US security was under attack during election.
Emergency President Trump must enact Sanctions (12 Sept 2018 /15 May 2019)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United...
This will save USA from the Venezuelan Cyber Attacks that corrupted the Election.
Just to be on the safe side he sacked a nice Guy & will now isolate Machine Votes.
All see that when the Chavez Corruption is weeded out...Trump miraculously wins!
Democrats won't even say thanks to Trump for saving America & the election.
Block The God Damn Emergency Sanctions before Trump flicks the switch!
LIKE RIGHT FUCKING NOW! ... 'd be a good time!
(Biden : "You really think so...")
Yes! We're your Allies!" FFS...just pass the Light Sabre...can't even spell the fucker!
"Err! Yer holding it back to front tbb!".
Yeah! ..you'd like to think so, but nothing really matters anymore, does it!
Keep it up TBB you know your shit
Absolutely spot on, Vic.
And how's the blowback on here?
Typical.
As was stated an age ago:
"Stooges who've been mightily stooged hate being told and revealed they've been stooged, and then attack the bringers of these bad tidings rather than the actual ones that stooged them in the first place."
St Dick. Pfffffffffffffffft.
The moment when you realise that your bullshit claim * needs even more bullshit ** amd then even more bullshit again *** thrown at it to keep up the farce.
* “ Anyone who wants to reduce the mass immigration / population growth Ponzi scheme on environmental grounds is really a racist who doesn’t care about the environment.”
** “ There’s SHIT LOADS of fair weather environmentalists who only claim to love the environment because they are bigots “
*** “ Anyone who doesn’t completely accept the premise of human induced climate change hates the environment “
Don’t forget that is all from the same bloke who previously claimed that mass immigration has no real impact on Australia’s fragile environment.
"Stooges who've been mightily stooged hate being told and revealed they've been stooged, and then attack the bringers of these bad tidings rather than the actual ones that stooged them in the first place."
quoting yourself again... sigh...
which profile said that originally?
actually don't bother, because it's so far from reality it beggars belief
seriously dude, you're better than this
and, to quote myself, if you'll allow the indulgance...
'you really need some new material'
and that's not just because your old stuff is tedious, often wrong, and in this case totally irrelevant
...so so irrelevant and wrong in this case that you're actuallly well into the one track realms of being mind blowingly dumb...
it's bigger than that
bigger than you...
@ Sypkan
This is pretty obvious but i will say it anyway.
VL might not be a Greens voter, but his mindset is the exact reason why the Greens never took the opportunity to support Dick Smith with his views/concerns on Australia's future population, there would be a huge chunk of Greens voters that would think exactly like VL linking any real discussion on the issue directly to being anti immigrant or even racist.
Surely at some stage it's going to be something they will have to focus on, which will be funny The Greens and One Nation both agreeing on reducing immigration. (Horse shoe effect at work?)
True Indo.
Despite their recent turn towards enlightenment regarding the role they are supposed to occupy on the political spectrum- that of representing the environment and not open borders globalism - I still struggle to find any love at all for them. When push comes to shove they’d rather stay woke than prevent species and habitat loss.
Or you could say, the left just aren't going to take any more flat earth anti science racist bullshit from imbeciles. Those days are over. The USA experimented with that crap it look at them now.
You're going to hate the next decade blowin. Experts are going to be making the decisions, not showmen, not racists, and not clowns.
More sweeping generalisations to kick off the day
Hahahahaha.
Did I mention stooges?
Nek minnit...
There's all 3 of 'em!
"When push comes to shove they’d rather stay woke than prevent species and habitat loss."
Really blowin, so all those protestors locking on to machinery and in tree sits aren't woke greenies at all? They've been fooling the public for 40 years now since the days of the Franklin Rive protests.
Maybe they are all One Nation supporters who are the real environmentalists?
"When push comes to shove they’d rather stay woke than prevent species and habitat loss."
it's true
they choose to lose...
they had real momentum about 10 years ago. were getting significant numbers of votes. there was talk of them becoming more than just a fringe party, but look at them now...
the minor of minor parties
they've changed their tune of late, probably because they just get bagged and laughed at in the guardian comments and the like, ...but it seems too little too late for the greens...
the minority party woke too late
or too early...
too much?
and facto...
oh don't bother
but seriously dude, seriously...
stooge
stooged
projection
Speaking of quotes and such, here's some classics from just the other day. File them in the #ThereIsAlwaysAComment dossier. And the Sunday funnies.
The following was after the Shortenism pile on...
First, Sepp:
"I find this fascinating, I have a confession, I've been following some conspiracy groups on fb because I just want to know what the hell they are on about... its been disappointing, they're so all over the shop you cannot find any overarching 'belief'. in fact the infighting is hilarious... and frustrating, one guys rambling about 'the china virus', someone else is blaming cartels, and then someone pipes in about the virus being a hoax and you're all fools and 'sheeple'."
Oh, the irony.
Again.
Hah! You've been following "conspiracy groups on fb" you say, Sepp? No shit?! We couldn't tell!
Reckon much has surreptitiously seeped in??
And why go to FB anyway? Surely, what you seek is right here!
"One guys rambling about 'the china virus', someone else is blaming cartels, and then someone pipes in about the virus being a hoax and you're all fools and 'sheeple'"
Huzzah! Blowie covers all bases!
Consolidate, brother!
Speaking of the ol' freedom warrior, of course he would then pipe up with this gem (metaphorical/literal fish-killing baton in clenched fist):
"I don’t care what people think , say or do as long as it’s not directly threatening someone’s safety and I’d rather everyone felt free to speak their minds irrespective of how foolish or astute they felt others would see it."
Of course he would pipe up, because he's not talking about Shorty, he's really talking about, and trying to defend, himself!
Duh!
Shortenism getting paid out?! He at least said:
"We're all in a room full of mirrors ei lads"
Then again, he also said:
"Blowin for Pres!!"
Surely one Trumpy was more than enough!
Anyway, "I think the world has got far too many genuine problems to worry about than this stuff."
Yes'm Blowie. Testify, brother. Apart from your laundry list as unwittingly outlined by Seppy above, we've got Trumpy's "seditious traitors" to concern our time with at the mo.
Meanwhile, it's a quick dip before the Iron Mike/Roy Jones Jr show.
Hahaha, Let's get ready to rummmmmmmmble...
so, rather than just hollow bullshit attacks...
again...
let's talk about these conspiracies that have surreptitiously seeped
you know, with real world examples and shit, not you fake left world projectionist miserable assumptions...
I promise not to mention russia
and...
'four fucking years!'
or you can just continue making stuff up...
bullshitting
projecting
deplatforming
conspirational-ing
again...
“ so all those protestors locking on to machinery and in tree sits aren't woke greenies at all?”
They’re only pretending to be woke but really they just want to attack immigrants.
The science says that the endless immigration mob are the ones with their heads stuck in the sand. And if the woke Greens can’t walk the walk with their dedication to the environment and continue to declare population control racist then they’re just more shit talking hypocrites.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-11-20/flannery-calls-for-population-inq...
“.....flat Earth anti- science bullshit from imbeciles.”
Yep .....that just about sums up this photo perfectly. Any scientist will tell you that there are limits to the sustainable population of Australia.
But how will people virtue signal their woke credentials if we don’t allow infinite people to move here ?
AndyM, You've just made it to F Grade level troll.
"I was down at the pub last night and some guy was running around saying "That dago Madonna is dead", well I was having none of that. I'm not a big fan of her music but just because she is Italian you can't go round saying that. Anyway, long story short, I caused a bit of a ruckus and they threw me out. The racist guy got to stay and drink. I don't think that's fair".
Haha!
No, more like B level trolling, parodying your F level logic that
a) we can have infinite population growth and that
b) anyone who questions this is a racist
Those dagos are a weird mob
X2 andy
Not really on topic, but seeing Madonna was mentioned.
I always think of this lyric when i see her name, from Painters & Dockers Nude School.
"Jenny thinks she's Madonna, but Penthouse changed all that
She ain't that hairy, her legs aren't that fat "
Pretty harsh lyrics.
I remember the pics though, as a grommet i was disappointed they were only black & white and OMG she did have a lot of hair even for that era...not that there is anything wrong with hairy women if thats your thing (or hairy men if thats your thing)
PS. I remember stealing the edition of Playboy with Wendy Botha nude too from the news agent as a grommet, i never really stole much, i still remember it like it was yesterday, the rush the stoke, the disappointment.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank