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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Westofthelake Saturday, 12 Dec 2020 at 5:35pm

That's it blackers.

"Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections."

"judicially cognizable" being the operative terms.

Give it up babyman Trumpernator. (No matter what Rudy promises)

Meanwhile, more people per day are dying from CV19, then on 9/11. And it ain't slowing down.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-12/supreme-court-rejects-texas-lawsu...

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wally Saturday, 12 Dec 2020 at 6:32pm

Trump is the type of person who can never admit he lost, or failed at anything. He never could and he never will. A few are indulging the big angry toddler. It’s silly, destructive and a waste of everybody’s time.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 13 Dec 2020 at 11:36pm

Texas Twister starts Spinning...

Supreme Beings shouted down The Texas Twister."Go back to whence thou came!"


Trump: " The Supreme Court really let us down, No Wisdom, No Courage!

Trump is still filing more Law Cases...

Rally kicks off...

Commander in Chief inspects his biggest Troops ever.

Armed Mexicans smuggled in to sure up Trump's Collapsing Wall.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/armed-mexicans-smugg...

Destroy the GOP

Photo Layout is next level...quite a bit going on behind the scenes > Plenty of fuel!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9047473/Proud-Boys-BLM-fight-St...

US is going on well into new year for sure & more court cases & on & on...

Here's a snapshot of a Wild Weekend around our World
Note how none of this ever makes our evening news.

Berlin Covid Rally
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/german-intelligence-places-coronavirus-protest...

France (Security Bill)
https://img.republicworld.com/republic-prod/stories/promolarge/xxhdpi/pu...
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/dozens-arrested-paris-protest-over-155...
https://www.ethainews.com/french-law-on-filming-police-triggers-third-we...
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/nearly-150-arrested-at-paris...

Albania Police Shooting Rallies
https://www.ruptly.tv/en/videos/20201210-063-Albania--Protest-turns-viol...
https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/WireAP_e5d106abd9284111b3d539...

Brexit Bungle
https://eminetra.com.au/uk-readies-for-brexit-no-deal-chaos/85223/

India Farmer's Protest > Hunger Strike
https://www.leftvoice.org/farmers-unions-call-for-national-general-strik...
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/haryana-police-personnel-use-water-...

Free Papua
https://nestia-food-obs-ap-southeast-3.nestia.com/202012/13/47032d87195b...
https://xn--mustafaeker-xgc.com.tr/free-papua-movement-intensifies-amid-...

Yes, there were a few more Hot Spots...pretty sure they'll keep!

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shortenism Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 2:39pm

wally, you sound like you know him but if I was a betting man, I would put my holiday house on it that you don't.

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garyg1412 Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 2:48pm

Supreme poker face that one shortenism. Make sure it's through Ladbrokes like your previous dabble.

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Vic Local Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 3:03pm

Trump's tweet today. Vaccines are shipped and on their way, FIVE YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. Get well USA. Get well WORLD. We love you all!
The guy is batshit crazy.

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sypkan Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 3:32pm

why is he batshit crazy?

his 'operation warp speed' delivered the goods, ...well ahead of time, ...well ahead of all expectations

I'll bet shortenism's real house that if biden delivered you would have a very different perspective...

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Vic Local Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 4:21pm

First up, "operation warp speed" is a fricken Trump PR term and nothing more. The vaccine was delivered by the private sector because there's shit loads of $$$ to be made from it.
Secondly who the fuck was talking about 5 years?
Trump is just trying to claim credit for something he had absolutely nothing to do with.
The USA is a covid basket case, and much of the shit show is due to Trump. Now he's trying to claim hero status after scientists in the private sector in Germany and the USA made a breakthrough,
Now I know that might impress the Trump cheer squad, but anyone with half a brain, can see straight through the Orange BS.

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Pops Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 4:42pm

To be fair, the US gov't did pour a shedload of money into vaccine R&D (via grants to moderna, J&J, etc). The irony of course being that the pfizer/biontech team didn't receive a red cent of that money (for R&D. They are/will be getting funds for supply & distribution).

While there's a tonne of money to be made in getting a vaccine to market, there's an equal measure of risk - hence the normally slow process in developing and testing it (basically, they'd make one small step, test, wait for results, analyse, make the next small step and so on). The grants to moderna etc in some sense underwrote that risk - the recipients were getting money whether they were successful or not, so they could afford to do multiple steps of the usual process at once without being worried about putting too much money in & not recouping.

If memory serves, pfizer received a good chunk of funding from the German gov't for its own R&D.

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sypkan Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 5:33pm

exactly pops, 'operation warp speed' was trump's strategy to deal with the virus all along. yes a somewhat right wing strategy - to focus on an industry solution rather than the nanny state nonsense typical of the left - but his strategy nonetheless

trump took a rather cornicopian approach right from the start - if I can misplace that term for a minute, where he concentrated on, and put his faith in technological solutions and investment, and did the very RW libertarian thing of staying the hell out of people's lives, which is kind of what his voters would have wanted I guess...

and the left took a very malthusian perspective, all doom and gloom and control, rather authoritarian strategies, combined with big state blanket solutions, kind of what their voters expect, I guess...

let's see how biden goes with that one post january...

the five years comes from the typical time it has taken to develop vaccines in the past I imagine

not batshit crazy at all, ...just not to your liking

which is not the least bit surprising, it really wouldn't matter whatever he did...

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Pops Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 5:25pm

Putting a couple of words in my mouth there, but meh.

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sypkan Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 5:31pm

not intended pops, just agreeing with the bit about his investment approach

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JQ Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 5:55pm

You going for a slot on sky after dark sypkan? You'd be in the running there with your wild generalisations, stereotyping and sneering. Classic stuff.

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sypkan Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 6:21pm

well it's horses for courses jq... old viclabor doesn't mind some wild generalisations, stereotyping and sneering, as long as it's heading the write (right) way...

and if the shoe fits...

all of the broad wild generalisations apply from time to time, and they develop because they are... you know... generally true, which ever way they are heading...

I don't buy into either side (anymore...) and I praise the gods we live in a democracy that keeps both sides in check. ...imagine letting viclabor have his authoritarian wishlist run rampant... as he wishes and believes should be the case... we'd all be bending over for xi right now worshiping his walked ground for throwing us an empty bone of aid

we'd also be overrun with virus and chinese students because of one track's obsession and ideological tendenciies....

PRAISE THE GODS FOR DEMOCRACY!!!

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Blowin Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 6:23pm

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Vic Local Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 9:31pm

Fuck yeah I will sneer at anyone who thinks Trump has handled Covid well.

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seaslug Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 11:32pm

I agree with you VL with regard to "I will sneer at anyone who thinks Trump has handled Covid well"

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sypkan Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 10:53pm

I didn't say he handled it well, I was giving an objective account of events, to counter your hysterical hyperbole. you remember objectivity?

they used to teach it at uni...

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sypkan Monday, 14 Dec 2020 at 11:45pm

speaking of objectivity

yet another legacy media 'conspiracy' is proving to be anything but...

"...In retrospect, not only do the documents appear to be authentic, but a Daily Beast report Thursday notes evidence that the Hunter Biden investigation was hiding in plain sight. One of the FBI documents from the laptop published by the Post “included a case number that had the code associated with an ongoing federal money laundering investigation in Delaware, according to several law enforcement officials who reviewed the document. Another document — one with a grand jury subpoena number — appeared to show the initials of two assistant U.S. attorneys linked to the Wilmington, Delaware, office.” Hunter Biden claims he only learned of the  investigation this past week, but these documents suggest otherwise.

Even a cursory inquiry by the New York Post’s competitors would have confirmed that Biden was under federal investigation. One journalist did behave like a reporter. In late October, Sinclair Broadcast Group correspondent James Rosen reported that Hunter Biden was under active investigation and a Justice Department official confirmed his scoop. Almost without exception, America’s press corps refused to follow up on Rosen’s revelation — or even report it.

It’s bad enough that the allegations were ignored, but the media response to the story was far worse. Without making any meaningful attempts to independently verify any of the details, they immediately asserted that Hunter Biden’s laptop was part of a “Russian disinformation” campaign."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/12/14/hunter_biden_news_...

'it's the russians!'

again...

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Pops Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 12:13pm

Electoral college has voted & all states have reported their votes, with Biden collecting 306 to Trumps 232 (votes to be formally tallied in Washington on Jan 6).
How's that bet going Shortenism? Any new scoops?

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Vic Local Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 12:59pm

How's that bet going Shortenism? Any new scoops?
Fuckin bookies are in on the scam. They are just supporting Biden so they don't have to pay out on the smart money.

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 1:44pm

Shortenism Party still has Wildcards in play in Georgia
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54976115

Judge Judy / Trump episode wins best Special FX Oscar at Academy Awards

2020 'Time' Person of the Year...nominees are...
Trump / Devil / Trump / Devil or you can waste yer vote on someone less worthy...
Frontline Covid Workers / [ BLM ] Corpses / That Black Chick & Old Perv.
https://time.com/5919489/time-person-of-the-year-shortlist-2020/

Andaweenaiz...


Trump: You all saw I was winning then evil Blue Tsunami wiped out my votes!
https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/time-magazine-person-of-the-year...
President needs you to donate to Grinch's Stolen Time Christmas fund.

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shortenism Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 2:20pm

The only date in the constitution is 20 January (when Biden would have been sworn in).

As for my bet, there was a caveat that said something along the lines of 'the president having to be sworn in within 6 months of the election date'. At this stage its still marked as 'pending'.

Learn from them Pops & Vic, the music hasn't stopped yet...

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Pops Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 2:31pm

Not quite right there Shortenism.
Article II: "The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States."
so while not set by the constitution, the date that Congress chooses for the votes to be cast & to be read out is rubber stamped, as it were, by the constitution.
And then in the 12th amendment:
"...The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed..." (then goes on with alternatives if there is no majority).
Note the words "shall be". No wriggle room in that phrasing. So once the votes are read, the die is cast. Now that hasn't happened yet, but each state has (pre-)announced their counts, as is the convention, meaning the final count is basically a formality.

Who's "them" out of interest?

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Vic Local Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 2:44pm

Quick tip for you shortenism. Don't go putting "Winning bet on Donald Trump re-election - payable on January 20, 2021" down as a current assets on a loan application form.

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shortenism Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 2:50pm

Ladbrokes Pops. Thanks for the info but it remains so, the music hasn't stopped yet...

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 3:14pm

Good move shortenism. Don't Ladbrokes give you half your money back if your horse comes last???

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shortenism Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 3:35pm

No idea, 2nd bet I've made.

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synchrodogcal Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 4:51pm

the band has packed up and are in the van smoking cones

they aint coming back for an encore

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shortenism Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 5:13pm

Julian Assange pardoned and then Wikileaks dumps everything. Yep music still going https://file.wikileaks.org/file/

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Pops Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 5:15pm

Are you saying that's something that has already happened, something that you think will happen, or something that you hope might happen?

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Craig Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 5:18pm

Betfair resulted today.

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Vic Local Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 6:31pm

Biden or Trump Craig? *

* Asking for a friend.

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Westofthelake Tuesday, 15 Dec 2020 at 7:15pm

New monolith discovered...

newmono

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batfink Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 12:50pm

Shortening, wow, if you somehow come out of this and you’re right, well, wow. What odds are you getting? Less than 500,000 to one and you’re being played for a sucker.

But the more likely outcome is that you’re wrong. But I’ll come back here and bow before your presence if any of these things in the articles or your commentary come off.

Otherwise it just looks like implacable denial in the face of trenchant reality.

I read the articles. Used to be a Business Analyst, my job was to read what the numbers were saying and sometimes to convey or highlight a preferred message from the numbers. I never lied or made shit up, if the numbers couldn’t support a policy then I’d just tell them to leave them out.

In an election where the turnout was the highest in percentage terms since forever, and the highest in raw figures by a huge margin, there is absolutely nothing in those numbers that is even remotely significant. The huge turnout means that lots of statistically anomalous figures are going to come out. It seems like a lot but I’m sure you could find 50 more if you were of a mind, and had experience as an analyst. They aren’t significant, and the fact that there are so many ‘anomalies’ is not actually an anomaly. Something like 20 million voters who never bother came out and voted.

Sypkan, you need to bone up on your lefts and rights. You’ve mixed up classic leftist policy responses and suddenly called it ‘typical right’ action.

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factotum Wednesday, 16 Dec 2020 at 7:49pm

It should be a bit easier to cop comin' from a bunch of the whitest of whitebread kids.

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truebluebasher Friday, 18 Dec 2020 at 3:30pm

Stardate 2525 ~ Earthbet CEO US President Shortenism addresses vax mutants.
Agenda: Raising the 95% Poll Tax for "Trump Dynasty Stolen Rattle Fund"

Next up: Westofthelake! Models timeless copperart collapsible Trump Wall Panel.

Comes as no surprise, that in US... Both Parties are still launching electoral suits.
15 Dec: Georgia (Recount in Cob County) + (Xmas eve Law suit) + more
17 Dec: Dems are suing 4 Georgia Counties (failing to provide enough early voting)

17 Dec -Putin endorses both US presidents (He's entitled to do that you know!)
ABC Tony : "Yes! I think we'll count that as Russian Electoral Interference!"
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/putin-says-trump-doesnt...

General Flynn : 'Marshal Covid Law' Trump can rerun election in Swing States.
Trump Dynasty can stretch out Emergency until the last covid case in 2525.

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1339299900115312642

Jan 6 - Republicans plan to call fraud in 5 swing states. (Despite Cert / evidence)
House of Reps are supreme beings that rule over the Supreme court.
Contorting to equal House/Party 'leader's votes' > Pence casting deciding vote.
Pence quickly scrounged a spare False positive Poll Quarantine kit + XL sick note.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/12/16/9473297...
Will he or won't he become the face of evil for his Puppet Master?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/12/mike-pence-joe-biden-win-plan

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 23 Dec 2020 at 12:11pm

The Grinch is still trying to steal the election & is ramping it up!

Plan A (Voter Fraud precedent)
21 Dec - Trump petitions Supreme Court to reverse a trio of Pennsylvania cases.
He also asks the court to reject voter's will & allow pick of Presidential Electors.
Trump is "asking" for Courts to "move" swiftly to rule before 6th Jan 2021 vote.
6th Jan -Congress Vote
8th Jan Supreme Court "schedule meet." (Will Judges do political interference?)
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-wants-supreme-court-to-...

Plan B (In House Party Rules)
Republicans can Boycott Swing States + 'official uncertainty' in Pennsylvania.
This stops Biden from reaching 270...
House protocol kicks in 50/50 with Pence as the King Maker!

Plan C (Martial Law)
Trump insanely thinks he's immune from killing people & voiding lost elections.
No! Not Joking...he even boasts about it!
Prez' Star Chamber rigged up a Martial Law Special Counsel for a Swinging redo.
Prez : "Did not...as if I'm that desperate!"
Media ham up fresh Evil Plan shock factor...readers are not that desperate or naive!
https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/-thuggery-four-star-army-g...

https://www.justsecurity.org/73986/invoking-martial-law-to-reverse-the-2...

"There is no role for the US military in determining the outcome of a US election."
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/pentagon-anxiety-trump-final...

Plan D (Emergency Rations)
Reminder: Trump has emergency Powers & "several same Emergencies are in play."
Foreign Cyber, Foreign interference of Elections, Southern Border - Voting Interference, National Security Risk, Securing Tech, Blocking Property of o's Crime
Trump can order (Stacked) Intelligence Agencies to access results for interference.
All of these emergencies are open ended & US is under Emergency.

Plan E (Grinch Strike Action)
(The Wall) Big Baby goes on Strike Example
21st Dec 2018 Trump Ransoms US for a $5b Wall
"The Grinch Strike" > Xmas / New Year Govt Shutdown
15th Jan 2019 Trump extorts $1.4b from the Govt for his Wall

Plan F (Commander in Chief -Active Duty)
15th Feb 2019 Trump declares State of Emergency
Extorts US for more Wall money
Steals $3.8b from Pentagon for his Wall
Houses terminated Emergency then posted form for Trump to sign off...did Wot!
Trump never signed off on Military State of Emergency! (Was that vote insurance?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United...

Trump does hold much more Power than past Presidents...so why all this pretence.
Can Trump's Stolen Emergency Halt / Redo / Review election without signature?
Could well be, that Trump truly believes he's been playing Mr nice guy thus far.
Like! You can all see that Trump is not the Grinch, right! ...tbb never said that.

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truebluebasher Friday, 1 Jan 2021 at 10:46pm

Happy New Year US of A.

Melania gets Roasted
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/first-lady-melan...

We can do this the hard way or you can watch YouTube version.Tip! (Heaps Better!)
Truly! It's one of those rare times that the Movie is better....tbb found out too late!
Runs for 11 minutes but it's a real proper Old School TV news crossover package.
Has those Brady Bunch Squares with a real freaky CNNN shapeshifter.

Trump sabotages Senate Runoffs to hand Dems (Kamala) control of both chambers.
Yes! This is a real Story...only that Republicans are tipped to win & upset Trump.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/31/georgia-senate-races-some-republicans-th...

140 House Republicans to vote against Certification.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/140-house-republicans-to-vote-against...

Lawsuit by Texas / Arizona Republicans seeks to scrap rules & default to Pence.
The suit claims Pence should have sole authority for which states can be counted.
Claiming an 1887 law contradicts the 12th Amendment. (Jenna's Biblical reading?)
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/31/doj-slams-lawsuit-that-wants-pence-to-vo...
Congress would have to deliberate on whether to accept those electors.
Pence will preside over joint session of Congress to finalise the results.

Only! Pence has filed 14 pages asking Federal Judge to throw out Rep' Lawsuit.
Word about town is ...it will go down like a shot dog.
Making Pence a Mafia boss is cool, apart from the fact he has a life & a family.

Trump cancelled usual NYE do. Didn't want to hear 500 people say "So close! Prez!"
Melania spent several weeks redecorating his Mar-a-Lago Pad. "This is fuckin shit!"
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-reno...
Now you know too much about The Prez' Pimp Pad... did say to watch the vid.

OK! You get a Bonus High Brow Vid...

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shortenism Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 5:25pm

Who's getting a bit uncomfortable with the fact that old shortenism despite the fake noos calls, delusion calls, troll calls etc is about to get a payout from Ladbrokes for backing Trump for the election win...?? Last chance to have a dig before cold hard reality sinks in. This week is going to be BIG.

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Craig Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 5:33pm

Haha, don't think so champ, ps I already got paid out for Biden ;p

Also, is that from Trump calling up states asking them to 'find' votes to swing the outcome.

What a corrupt, piece of shit and you talk about the election being a fraud and stolen.

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shortenism Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 5:55pm

That's interesting you got paid already.. What odds you get? Or are you shit talking? Either way going to cause some shock waves in stock prices across the betting agencies who've paid out. The smart ones have held off. Y

You gotta turn off the tv. They'll tell you all day how bad Trump is. Where's any mention of Biden? By now surely the POTUS elect would have been outspoken all over the news with his party supporters. He hasn't contributed shit other than a lame twitter post 'mask up'...? WTF.

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Craig Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 6:02pm

Betfair remember, the market with billions put through it. I got $1.50.

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shortenism Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 6:11pm

You did well. The highest I ever saw for Biden (and I was watching closely following Trumps $14 odds in 2016) was $1.20ish. I reckon you're talking turkey, suss round number but will take your word for it..

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Westofthelake Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 7:24pm

"I just want to find 11780 votes..."

That's all. Not much to ask. Just break the law. It's ok. I do it every day.

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JQ Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 8:00pm

Shortenism, when Biden is inaugurated on the 20th and Trumps chances are even more genuinely and completely over, will you admit being wrong?

You're not getting paid out, better start coming to terms with it.

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truebluebasher Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 8:04pm

Wot are the Odds for a Fake Inauguration + 2nd Impeachment at High Noon...D'oh!
https://i.gifer.com/mZs.mp4

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Craig Monday, 4 Jan 2021 at 8:29pm

1.48 to be exact. 

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thermalben Tuesday, 5 Jan 2021 at 7:08am

This is quite an incredible document.

"From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024."

(oh, and the seven members of Congress who co-authored this statement are Republicans)

https://massie.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=Z5MPA3CVK5FYZQ3KBYQIDSAWB4

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Blowin Tuesday, 5 Jan 2021 at 7:14am