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Not so hilarious is I don’t think too many MAGA have worked out who pays the tarrifs.
southernraw wrote:seeds wrote:Chinese pisstake apparently
hahaha hilarious!!
On special at the Reject Shop, apparently.
hehehe which makes it all the more hilarious.
Not that any of this is obviously...but if you don't laugh right now....
A Salty Dog wrote:southernraw wrote:seeds wrote:Chinese pisstake apparently
hahaha hilarious!!
On special at the Reject Shop, apparently.
hahaha! Good luck with that eh Salty!
“ Its never been about creating a Palestinian state”
Exactly.
“ In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza." At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said:
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."
Prime Minister Netanyahu responded to the accusations of funding and strengthening Hamas by calling them "ridiculous".
Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview:
“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”
Bezalel Smotrich, a far-right lawmaker and finance minister under Netanyahu Government, called the Palestinian Authority a "burden" and Hamas an "asset".
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-netanyahu-bolstered-hamas/
You know why i'll never be an expert on Iran, Israel, Gaza, Ukraine.....etc.
Because i've never been there.
How could you ever begin to understand a place and it's people and culture if you've never stepped foot inside that country nor ever spent time with the people living there.
Something to think about for self proclaimed podcast experts that post on here.
And same could be said for Aboriginal Australians that don't live near Phillip Island....i.e...West of the Great Australian Divide. How could you be so pigheaded to know so much without having spent a second of time with those people.
Excellent points southern.
Yet they wanna try exclaim shit like :
“…you only have about 1% understanding of the issue.”
Hahaha - accuse the other side of that which you are guilty ;)
Here is a reminder of the more than missing 99%
quote @indo-dreaming “ Personally i wont be breathing a sigh of relief until he is actually deported and the precedent and example is set, but god knows how long he could string things along for in the courts with appeals etc”
So this is personal for you now, you know like living in a completely different country and all?
Weird thing to say, but coming from you it’s not unexpected.
That’s rite seeds, he never called for the demise of America. It’s just Indo punching down on a person that’s living a nightmare that should never be experienced in a western democracy. It sound like the US may surviel social media of travellers and refuse entry to anyone who posts negative comments about Israel, that’s in transit also apparently.
The real craziness is you can’t enter the USA if you’ve been critical of Isreal on social media. At least we know who’s the (wearing the pants) real world superpower.
tearymasseuse wrote:“ Its never been about creating a Palestinian state”
Exactly.
“ In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza." At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said:
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."
Prime Minister Netanyahu responded to the accusations of funding and strengthening Hamas by calling them "ridiculous".
Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview:
“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”
Bezalel Smotrich, a far-right lawmaker and finance minister under Netanyahu Government, called the Palestinian Authority a "burden" and Hamas an "asset".https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-netanyahu-bolstered-hamas/
This is the scary stuff. What really goes on. Since the Oompa Loompa afflicted with gigantism came along again, it’s all out in the open. Bibi nearly creamed his pants months back when Donald talked about clearing Gaza for a development project.
Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves
…or something like that
soggydog wrote:That’s rite seeds, he never called for the demise of America. It’s just Indo punching down on a person that’s living a nightmare that should never be experienced in a western democracy. It sound like the US may surviel social media of travellers and refuse entry to anyone who posts negative comments about Israel, that’s in transit also apparently.
The real craziness is you can’t enter the USA if you’ve been critical of Isreal on social media. At least we know who’s the (wearing the pants) real world superpower.
Spot on SoggyD. And great posts above Tearymasseuse....and all actually....well...almost all. ha.
I posted something similar yesterday, but always question the motives of someone. Think about Trump and his motives. Does anyone really believe a billionaire baby who's failed more business ventures than most mere mortal business men, and has been convicted of various crimes, is a known sexual predator....does anyone believe his motives are for a strong and prosperous America...or might his motives be more aligned with his past actions?? Question the motivation of others always. Not their words or their spindoctoring.
btw, anyone worked out who Ron Vara is yet.
Has this been mentioned yet on these threads? Ron Vara?
How has Ron Vara been swept over by mainstream media and the like.
Indo!? Wanna tell me about Ron Vara and Trumps Tariffs??
I mean, fuck me....this should be the smoking gun if ever there was one of Trump simply sinking the economy for his and his cronies own gains. Straight out death sentences for all these cunts.
Good bloke. Ronnie.
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/is-fictional-expert-ron-vara-behind...
indo-dreaming wrote:Typical just insults.
Tell me where im wrong?
The only point you can/could make is that Green card holders aren't exactly Visa holders like a student visa etc. hence why this case was a bit fuzzy, but:
"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."
Hence they dont have the same rights as a full Lawful Permanent Resident and why the court's agreeing with me and not you..
Cue our legal expert any minute now, telling us the courts are also wrong or some other BS
I'll tell you a couple of reasons where you're wrong, @ethnic-cleansing-dreaming.
indo-dreaming wrote:"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security.
Mahmoud has not been charged with any crimes, and you KNOW they would've thrown the book at him instantly had they been able to find anything illegal that he's done. "Engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security". I can only assume you popped this in there cos you don't understand that the first amendment is SUPPOSED to allow peaceful protest, which is what Khalil had been doing. Asking for an institution to cut ties with Israel due to ongoing human rights abuses and documented WAR CRIMES is not illegal, NOR IS IT ANTISEMITISM, YOU FUCKING NUMPTY.
indo-dreaming wrote:BTW. this guy and the group he supports isn't just pro Palestine they are pro Hamas and even handed out ‘Hamas flyers complete with the full Hamas logo, and have been praised by Hamas.
Ahhh. Karoline Leavitt, that paragon of truth and virtue says that the fliers with Hamas logos that Khalil allegedly handed out are ON OR INSIDE HER DESK. hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! fuck.
Anyone think the word fascist gets thrown around to much at the moment? Well it's being said a lot cos of all the fascism going around at the moment.
haha, yep, Trump's just an utter doofus.
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
throwing the toys in the air, and hoping it works out?
Imagine being behind that idea...
da mean clowns, smirk, scowl and unite.
southernraw wrote:You know why i'll never be an expert on Iran, Israel, Gaza, Ukraine.....etc.
Because i've never been there.
How could you ever begin to understand a place and it's people and culture if you've never stepped foot inside that country nor ever spent time with the people living there.
Something to think about for self proclaimed podcast experts that post on here.
Yep, Southy.... which is precisely why i don't offer opinion on the Aussie thread. Not my circus, not my monkeys. Same with the ME stuff. I stick to the USA thread cuz my opinions are educated by experience, not theory. (Even when those opinions are wrong, lol)
soz, @wax.. force of habit..
we grew up getting sucked in by simpsons, and mcdonalds..
you must be the same with home and away, and eagle boys..
We can always send u some Vegemite @wax
I’m sure it’ll take off over there…
It’s like the the most beautiful thing ever …I’ve never seen anything like it, actually nobody has ever had anything so beautiful
Ever.
and you are wise in how you've done it @wax.. exemplary through our voice referendum.. I could tell you had a lot of your own experiences informing an opinion, but you decided it wasn't relevant and would serve no purpose in sharing (other than we would have ben quite interested). I've been trying to do the same with the US, but there is a level with US stuff, that it will eventually effect us. Again, thanks to you US guys who engage here.
wax24 wrote:southernraw wrote:You know why i'll never be an expert on Iran, Israel, Gaza, Ukraine.....etc.
Because i've never been there.
How could you ever begin to understand a place and it's people and culture if you've never stepped foot inside that country nor ever spent time with the people living there.
Something to think about for self proclaimed podcast experts that post on here.Yep, Southy.... which is precisely why i don't offer opinion on the Aussie thread. Not my circus, not my monkeys. Same with the ME stuff. I stick to the USA thread cuz my opinions are educated by experience, not theory. (Even when those opinions are wrong, lol)
Good on ya waxy. And super appreciate your insights from over there mate.
tearymasseuse wrote:“ Its never been about creating a Palestinian state”
Exactly.
“ In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza." At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said:
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."
Prime Minister Netanyahu responded to the accusations of funding and strengthening Hamas by calling them "ridiculous".
Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview:
“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”
Bezalel Smotrich, a far-right lawmaker and finance minister under Netanyahu Government, called the Palestinian Authority a "burden" and Hamas an "asset".https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-netanyahu-bolstered-hamas/
Fake news!!!!!!!!
basesix wrote:and you are wise in how you've done it @wax.. exemplary through our voice referendum.. I could tell you had a lot of your own experiences informing an opinion, but you decided it wasn't relevant and would serve no purpose in sharing (other than we would have ben quite interested). I've been trying to do the same with the US, but there is a level with US stuff, that it will eventually effect us. Again, thanks to you US guys who engage here.
Haha i noticed you went from 'i don't give a fk' to really giving a fk @base. It happens. Pretty important shit for all of us.
interesting watching this little '...don't comment if you haven't been there...' conversation unfold...
meanwhile, in twitter land it's '... douglas murray owned dave smith over smith blabbering about something for 18 months without going there...'
don't care either way
just interesting watching opposing camps taking opposite positions in an alternate universe...
Ahh geez @syp, i thought you might have fucked off for a bit of self reflection....
No time like the present!
and, exactly what most on here dont want to hear...
https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1910882583694426508
hating is much more fun...
rewarding?
therapeutic?
something...
funny, was thinking same about you...
southernraw wrote:basesix wrote:and you are wise in how you've done it @wax.. exemplary through our voice referendum.. I could tell you had a lot of your own experiences informing an opinion, but you decided it wasn't relevant and would serve no purpose in sharing (other than we would have ben quite interested). I've been trying to do the same with the US, but there is a level with US stuff, that it will eventually effect us. Again, thanks to you US guys who engage here.
Haha i noticed you went from 'i don't give a fk' to really giving a fk @base. It happens. Pretty important shit for all of us.
yeh, I don't really get how we each come across.. it's quite nice when we get a trust for each other's schtick and vibe. You and I both have a variety of family and friend's influence, and sometimes I'll check the forecast and drop a comment, because of what's just happened in life.. and maybe it seems odd to others.. who knows..
of course trump and stuff is a big deal, but I try to not care about things outside of my sphere, while caring about things.. can't help it.. the only thing that's held true (way more than 'interesting times') is 'if it wasn't so serious, it'd be funny'..
sypkan wrote:funny, was thinking same about you...
ReeeeoooW!!
Eggspurtz and the alternative opinion universe
?si=qfaJgGf2bDSiGGUL ?si=uhICaUVlxchI1pj5 not sure exactly what I'm supposed to reflect on though...
I wasn't the one making baseless accusations on miserable assumptions...
and, your little roadkill run in, confirmed my point precisely
just sayin...
basesix wrote:southernraw wrote:basesix wrote:and you are wise in how you've done it @wax.. exemplary through our voice referendum.. I could tell you had a lot of your own experiences informing an opinion, but you decided it wasn't relevant and would serve no purpose in sharing (other than we would have ben quite interested). I've been trying to do the same with the US, but there is a level with US stuff, that it will eventually effect us. Again, thanks to you US guys who engage here.
Haha i noticed you went from 'i don't give a fk' to really giving a fk @base. It happens. Pretty important shit for all of us.
yeh, I don't really get how we each come across.. it's quite nice when we get a trust for each other's schtick and vibe. You and I both have a variety of family and friend's influence, and sometimes I'll check the forecast and drop a comment, because of what's just happened in life.. and maybe it seems odd to others.. who knows..
of course trump and stuff is a big deal, but I try to not care about things outside of my sphere, while caring about things.. can't help it.. the only thing that's held true (way more than 'interesting times') is 'if it wasn't so serious, it'd be funny'..
Personally, i like that you care @base.
Your mind is one of a kind and very welcomed, and value all that comes out of it.
Always spot on.
Keep it up good sir.
sypkan wrote:not sure exactly what I'm supposed to reflect on though...
I wasn't the one making baseless accusations on miserable assumptions...
and, your little roadkill run in, confirmed my point precisely
just sayin...
My little roadkill run in? Ha. We've been having little and big run ins for years.
Says alot about my shit life i guess.
But yeah, ever since old roady proclaimed those going to cafes unvaxed as murderers...i've kinda had it in for him tbh. But for sure...my little roadkill run in. Let that dictate your little terms of war or whatever this is.
Sypoooooo!!!! I liked it when we agreed on covid. That was a good time.
But fark me, you angle everything you post against 'lefties' and don't realise most people are just people, some with left leanings. We're not all out trying to get 'blokes' into womens toilets.
One more unanswered post and you’re just like Syp. @SR 3 in a row novella territory doomed to boring arrogance. Talking to yourself
thanks @SR, we had some moments on your Voice thread and many since and it's clear who has a generosity of spirit here, and who is willing to be called a bleeding-heart, a useful idiot, naive, ignorant, and out of touch in the interest of not dehumanising the folk who live in our world.. (the Voice trenches together, bros for life, haha, there's a few of us here). But I certainly don't want to be as invested as we were in our Aboriginal history in this 'Pappy O'Daniel takes over the word and finally breaks the inscrutable Orientals' Risk game. Hard to avoid, but.
seeds wrote:One more unanswered post and you’re just like Syp. @SR 3 in a row novella territory doomed to boring arrogance. Talking to yourself
Far out. Says you @seeds. I reckon you're on these threads 10 times more than me. I pop in and out on random weekends I've noticed you're alwaaaays on here.
Don't throw stones friend.
Wasn’t an insult Southern
basesix wrote:thanks @SR, we had some moments on your Voice thread and many since and it's clear who has a generosity of spirit here, and who is willing to be called a bleeding-heart, a useful idiot, naive, ignorant, and out of touch in the interest of not dehumanising the folk who live in our world.. (the Voice trenches together, bros for life, haha, there's a few of us here). But I certainly don't want to be as invested as we were in our Aboriginal history in this 'Pappy O'Daniel takes over the word and finally breaks the inscrutable Orientals' Risk game. Hard to avoid, but.
Good on ya @base.
In my studies last year i came across levels of human intelligence....and what not.
There were 6 levels, 6 being the highest.
Base 6 by name and base 6 by nature.
One of a kind mate. Highly valued from this perspective.
seeds wrote:Wasn’t an insult Southern
Wasn't a golden globe either.
fuck me you two are a classic.. you believe the same shit, support the same shit, listen to the same shit, struggle with the same shit, and enjoy the same shit.. fucking brothers that never met! Night legends.
But i get where your hearts at @seeds.So thankyou. Had a bottom of the barrel 2 weeks. Forgive me. It's in my history books of lowest ebbs ever.
Read between the lines. Was advisory to not become like….
Agreed @base.
I'm being a cunt.
I'll take off.
Just venting cos this place is good for that.
That goes to you too Syp.
Sliding out. B back with better vibes when they come.
Sorry folks.
Hope things are looking up.
I’m quite often down with the swill mentally.
Still get up every day. That’s the key.
I totally get that me not giving an Aussie opinion is different than any/all you guys giving USA opinions. The two are not the same. No worries there. But, some in here DO tend to think they can speak for my tribe (writ large) with some sort of intelligence. You cannot. Not on this level. It's all theory.
seeds wrote:Hope things are looking up.
I’m quite often down with the swill mentally.
Still get up every day. That’s the key.
Thanks mate.
And thanks for your earlier message and headsup. Yep i misread it.
Just how the heads at right now.
Yeah i'll be sweet as always.
Hope you're all good too mate.
Sorry for saying dumb shit. It definitely ain't personal.
Just out looking for a fight right now.
Something i need to reflect on.
Have a great night and stoked the Lions got a big win for ya!
southernraw wrote:Sypoooooo!!!! I liked it when we agreed on covid. That was a good time.
But fark me, you angle everything you post against 'lefties' and don't realise most people are just people, some with left leanings. We're not all out trying to get 'blokes' into womens toilets.
this is just so wrong I cannot ignore it for your little novella trifecta...
and it comes back to my point about miserable assumptions
criticism of a wayward left doesn't make one right wing... it just means I've given up on the contemporary corporate swooning left and their shameless pandering to lobby groups...
I've explained this to you before, hence my irritability at your accusations
also, I think you are fundamentally missing something about trump if you still haven't grasped that a large proportion of left people voted for him out of pure frustration... a heap on here just don't get it...
which I don't get...
anyway, no malice here, I wish you all the best, and I shouldn't have been so yippy (haha) considering your openness about currently having a hard time
I apologise, look after yourself, it's just politics...
(you know what they say about religion and politics... don't talk about it! ...yet here on the net, it takes full dominance... strange times...)
Bible belt Syppo. Holds no rhyme or reason for left or right.
And thanks for that last part of your post.
Much appreciated.
As you are too.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank