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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Supafreak Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 4:11pm

Kiwis just trying to have a go .

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gs-co Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 4:17pm

like the Qing dynasty, JF doesn't see the funny side of getting an entire empire hooked on drugs in order to balance one's trading account..

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Optimist Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 4:19pm

What did you think about my link at 3.39 pm?…..it’s what has been concerning me for a while……they won’t play fair.

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gs-co Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 4:36pm

it's a concern and when I lived there again in 2023 and did some uni lecturing in machine learning and quant finance I saw first hand how advanced they are compared to our universities, and how strongly both industry and govt over there back tech development. They're not fucking around. They'll get their revenge.

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Fliplid Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 5:10pm
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But I'd describe the cause of the opium wars as: It's well accepted that China was very arrogant at the time and believed it was far superior to any other peoples, and didn't think that any other peoples had anything to offer it. The West had a strong demand for things like silk and tea, and ran out of silver and gold to pay for it all, and China hoarded all the gold and silver, so the West had the wise idea of getting half the Chinese population hooked on opium, and used the proceeds to pay for their silk and tea. China wasn't overly impressed with that, but due to their arrogance, the Chinese didn't see the writing on the wall that they'd just encountered a peoples who at the time were far superior in technology and industry, etc. So China thought they could easily defeat the West in war, but the West dominated them with "just a few ships" and seized half the Chinese coast in the process.

At the time, all China had to do was just buy a few products off the West instead of hoarding all the gold and silver, thus sending the West broke...

Fast forward 150 years, China has a full blown personal vendetta against the West and is seeking vengeance for the century of humiliation. And they're up to their same old tricks in international trade and commerce, this time hoarding US dollars and US govt bonds (and gold and silver), again sending the West broke, and not playing fairly at all... And they once again believe that they can defeat us in war, and are not going to back down in the little trade dispute with Trump or come to the table with some fair and equal trading practices, just like 150 years ago.

That's an interesting way to frame it gs-co but I'd expect nothing less!

Maybe the fentanyl crisis is just a "wise idea" that China had although doesn't look as if it's been as profitable as it was for the English

As you say it's history repeating but going on the evidence only one side is taking note of what happened in the past while the other is just chasing the profits. Another way to look at it is that one country has a long term vision while the other has nothing but 'let capitalism rip' and they're not even interested in doing anything beneficial for the country as a whole with the proceeds. You've at least got to wonder who's the smartest, China has pulled millions out of poverty and the US has put millions back in

Basically this situation could all be handled without the theatrics, chaos and arrogance that Trump is carrying on with but who knows, maybe we do need an unpredictable self serving lunatic to take charge rather than the rational focused process the Chinese are using to get to where they want to be

Anyway hope you get some waves over the weekend. Cheers

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old-dog Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 6:03pm

Pretty sick watching Trump bragging about how much his billionaire mates made on the stock market on Wednesday. Pointing to NASCAR team owner Roger Penske who's worth an estimated 5.6 billion and made 900 million bucks, and financial investor Charles Schwab who made 2.5 million to add to his 12.9 billion.
Bloomberg called it the best day ever for billionaires as the worlds wealthiest raked in 304 billion after the market rocketed up.
I always knew they would find a way to transfer the super funds from us bottom feeder workers to the top end of town.
Pretty obvious where Trumps allegiances lie.

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andy-mac Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 6:11pm
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Kiwis just trying to have a go . https://youtu.be/mamHSwIH3Ns?si=A-7P6ZfJ28GJzajX

He's a classic!!

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thermalben Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 6:26pm

"China to increase tariffs on US goods to 125 per cent, up from 84 per cent"

This dick swinging competition is becoming a bore.

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andy-mac Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 6:33pm
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"China to increase tariffs on US goods to 125 per cent, up from 84 per cent"

This dick swinging competition is becoming a bore.

When will it hit the trillion zillion billion quilldillion tarrif percentage??

https://m.

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tearymasseuse Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 6:48pm
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sypkan Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 6:53pm

australia soon to choose?

need to choose...

https://m.

I see mr. crikey saying, be it albo, marles, or dutton... our current crop of leaders simply aren't up to it...

which I agree with

his vague bend over for xi conclusion ...

not so much

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flollo Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 7:23pm

Our current crop of leaders is not up to it? Who the hell is up to it? This is not business as usual. It's a situation with very little precedence and no-one has direct experience in this. People have this chronic tendency to underplay just how difficult some of this work is.

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blackers Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 7:46pm

Fair point there flollo

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seeds Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 7:57pm

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The point about the shop owner not wanting to dragged out and beaten got me. Is this what has happened in the Red states? (3 minute watch)

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seeds Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 8:18pm

I’ve no doubt the actor did not write this but food for thought as also mentioned by Salty Dog the other day.

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seeds Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 8:27pm

Pre meat entertainment.

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seeds Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 8:40pm

Friday night. Everyone’s got something to do and my algorithm is getting pretty recent. This was funny. It’s the vibe! You read about this desperation T man has tapped into. Life must be really hopeless for a hell of a lot of people to grip onto this obvious false saviour.

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basesix Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 9:43pm

not me, mate, I'm even watching the footy! Gonna hit the hay, light offshores tomorrow.. rare bird! have a go at this if you feel like getting your damper on, 1960s aussie bush/folk music collectors, some fkn cracker characters, made me think of you (6mins)


(have a gander, seppo mates! ; )

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seeds Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 9:48pm

Haha, saw it 2 days ago. Thought about sending it to you. Spooky Zuckerberg shit going on there.

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basesix Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 9:53pm

nice.. good to know obscure historic special-interest archival restorations can get algorithmised nationally.. I think : / ? be thoughtful of weekend-seeds when you choose your bedtime tonight.. ciao!

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seeds Friday, 11 Apr 2025 at 9:58pm
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nice.. good to know obscure historic special-interest archival restorations can get algorithmised nationally.. I think : / ? be thoughtful of weekend-seeds when you choose your bedtime tonight.. ciao!

I’m on the farm already sowing work seeds until late Sunday arv. Snoozing soon.

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southernraw Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 12:37am
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the fuck off was because you've been baiting me with that misogyny crap for weeks if not months...

I've ignored it, because I really don't wanna talk about your clear indoctrination and miserable assumptions

but it gets tiresome, so fuck off

fwiw, I would like to think your smarter and more self aware than trotting those lame old lines that signal to the church, but achieve nothing else...

ie. if you really want to make a point - and not just shit stir - better to use your own words and interpretation than boring lines from the broken bible

I'm more interested in the motivation behind what people post. The 'knowledge' and statements are in a fishbowl on here. These forums, though while appearing normal to those participating, may, perhaps, not reflect what is actually normal outside of this space.
If it seems i'm being harsh on you, it's probably for a reason....a long sustained reason. Take that as you will.

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southernraw Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 12:42am
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clearly a couple of tds'd chicks though

hypobolic, hysterical, and irrational in the first five minutes, I don't need anymore of that

Strange how some people watch and see things that aren’t there.

Cos now's not the time for hysteria if you're a citizen of the US right now right? Especially if you're a woman over there.
No surprises from you roadkill.

I might be totally wrong here @southernraw but I think roadkill is on your side here…..

SR tends to read posts with a bias. He reads what he thinks someone is saying.

TBH it’s not worth explaining to him as he loves to be outraged.

I don't think i misunderstood you roadkill...did i?

100% misunderstood.
But not really a surprise.

Ok apologies to you then @roady.
And yeah no surprises to me either. I'll try better.
Sorry.

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andy-mac Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 8:57am
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Supafreak Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 10:45am

China doesn’t care ….. apparently

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basesix Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 11:08am

doesn't matter anyway @Supa, the Mothmen are here to take us home, mothership currently hovering above 13th.
https://www.swellnet.com/surfcams/13th-beach

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gs-co Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 11:57am

they've spent a century preparing for this very moment

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Supafreak Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 12:06pm
gs-co wrote:

they've spent a century preparing for this very moment

Who has ? The Chinese Mothmen ?

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they've spent a century preparing for this very moment

Can we hide from they/them? Is under the bed safe ya think?

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gs-co Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 12:20pm
Supafreak wrote:
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they've spent a century preparing for this very moment

Who has ? The Chinese Mothmen ?

Yes the aliens who decided to announce their presence on planet earth via the 13th Beach swellnet cam

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 12:33pm
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Fascists don't always wear boots....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/mahmoud-khalil-deportati...

Why would you ever want to live in the US ?

Let’s take great care of Australia and hope we never travel down that same road.

Appalling, from the so called land of ‘milk and honey’.
It’s more like the land of ‘creosote and anthracite’
It’s just a place of paranoia and a Trumped up affair. . AW

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basesix Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 12:44pm
gs-co wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
gs-co wrote:

they've spent a century preparing for this very moment

Who has ? The Chinese Mothmen ?

Yes the aliens who decided to announce their presence on planet earth via the 13th Beach swellnet cam

they took the dudes in the lineup and left.. wonder where they'll stop next?

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AndyM Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 12:50pm

The land of milk and honey?

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andy-mac Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 1:00pm
Roadkill wrote:
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they've spent a century preparing for this very moment

Can we hide from they/them? Is under the bed safe ya think?

Only if it's a double...

I just checked mine and it was OK...

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 3:02pm
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Fascists don't always wear boots....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/mahmoud-khalil-deportati...

It's pretty simple if he or anyone applied for a student Visa or even a Green card, and said im going to lead or even be involved in a protest group that support's terrorist and spread hate and intimidate other students, he or any others would have zero chance of getting a student vIsa or even a green card, it would be rejected, and the government has every right to cancel a visa or green card if they break condition's.

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

It's the same deal in Australia or most countries, when on a student or work visa you are still a guest of that country.

We even reject these type's of antagonistic people just from coming to Australia for short term stays, both on the left and right, are we fascist for doing this?

Go try doing the same shit in many other countries around the world and you will get a lot more than being deported, you would really find out what fascism is or worse..

BTW. this guy and the group he supports isn't just pro Palestine they are pro Hamas and even handed out ‘Hamas flyers complete with the full Hamas logo, and have been praised by Hamas.

AW said
"Why would you ever want to live in the US ?"

That's an easy question. to answer.

The real question is why do these people come to USA and then chant "death to America" ???

Personally i wont be breathing a sigh of relief until he is actually deported and the precedent and example is set, but god knows how long he could string things along for in the courts with appeals etc

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andy-mac Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 2:59pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:

Fascists don't always wear boots....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/mahmoud-khalil-deportati...

It's pretty simple if he or anyone applied for a student Visa or even a Green card, and said im going to lead or even be involved in a protest group that support's terrorist and spread hate and intimidate other students, he or any others would have zero chance of getting a vIsa or even a green card, it would be rejected, and the government has every right to cancel a visa or green card if they break condition's.

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

It's the same deal in Australia or most countries, when on a student or work visa you are still a guest of that country.

Go try doing the same shit in many other countries around the world and you will get a lot more than being deported, you would really find out what fascism is.

BTW. this guy and the group he supports isn't just pro Palestine they are pro Hamas and even handed out ‘Hamas flyers complete with the full Hamas logo, and have been praised by Hamas.

AW said
"Why would you ever want to live in the US ?"

The real question is why do these people come to USA and then chant "death to America" ???

Personally i wont be breathing a sigh of relief until he is actually deported and the precedent and exanple is set, but god knows how long he could string things along for in the courts with appeals etc

Freedumb of speech ey...

Geez you're clueless.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 3:13pm

Typical just insults.

Tell me where im wrong?

The only point you can/could make is that Green card holders aren't exactly Visa holders like a student visa etc. hence why this case was a bit fuzzy, but:

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

Hence they dont have the same rights as a full Lawful Permanent Resident and why the court's agreeing with me and not you..

Cue our legal expert any minute now, telling us the courts are also wrong or some other BS

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andy-mac Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 3:17pm
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Typical just insults.

Tell me where im wrong?

The only point you can/could make is that Green card holders aren't exactly Visa holders like a student visa etc. hence why this case was a bit fuzzy, but:

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

Hence they dont have the same rights as a full Lawful Permanent Resident.

But seems the courts are agreeing with me and not you.

Cue our legal expert any minute now, telling us they are also wrong.

That's the point, no law was broken...
Threat to national security... yeah spoken like true fascist....
Who's next. Environmental protestors?

Not going to engage with you mate, no point as you are totally gone.

This short video points out who you are supporting.

Call it antisemitic all you like, but ya cannot say it's lying.

https://m.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 3:31pm
andy-mac wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:

Typical just insults.

Tell me where im wrong?

The only point you can/could make is that Green card holders aren't exactly Visa holders like a student visa etc. hence why this case was a bit fuzzy, but:

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

Hence they dont have the same rights as a full Lawful Permanent Resident.

But seems the courts are agreeing with me and not you.

Cue our legal expert any minute now, telling us they are also wrong.

That's the point, no law was broken...
Threat to national security... yeah spoken like true fascist....
Who's next. Environmental protestors?

Not going to engage with you mate, no point as you are totally gone.

This short video points out who you are supporting.

Call it antisemitic all you like, but ya cannot say it's lying.

https://m.

Well thankfully it seems like the judge see's things differently.

Im totally gone.

Fuck dude you have lost the plot.

Have you actually joined Soggy dog in thinking Hamas are freedom fighters yet?

Yes he said that the other week.

You are quite literally like chickens rallying for KFC.

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gs-co Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 3:49pm
basesix wrote:
gs-co wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
gs-co wrote:

they've spent a century preparing for this very moment

Who has ? The Chinese Mothmen ?

Yes the aliens who decided to announce their presence on planet earth via the 13th Beach swellnet cam

they took the dudes in the lineup and left.. wonder where they'll stop next?

Does look a bit uncrowded out there, at least after seeing the mush down the end of my walkway earlier today

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andy-mac Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 3:55pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:

Typical just insults.

Tell me where im wrong?

The only point you can/could make is that Green card holders aren't exactly Visa holders like a student visa etc. hence why this case was a bit fuzzy, but:

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

Hence they dont have the same rights as a full Lawful Permanent Resident.

But seems the courts are agreeing with me and not you.

Cue our legal expert any minute now, telling us they are also wrong.

That's the point, no law was broken...
Threat to national security... yeah spoken like true fascist....
Who's next. Environmental protestors?

Not going to engage with you mate, no point as you are totally gone.

This short video points out who you are supporting.

Call it antisemitic all you like, but ya cannot say it's lying.

https://m.

Well thankfully it seems like the judge see's things differently.

Im totally gone.

Fuck dude you have lost the plot.

Have you actually joined Soggy dog in thinking Hamas are freedom fighters yet?

Yes he said that the other week.

You are quite literally like chickens rallying for KFC.

You still claiming IDF most moral army on earth?

No not claiming anything regarding Hamas, you are aware they were a Netanyahu creation ya?
To upset the secular PLA.

Helped funded by Qatar and Israel.

Qatargate??

Cause and effect, you oppress and kill a people they will eventually fight back anyway they can, as you would in that situation. As anyone would....

Never again should mean never again....!

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 5:18pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:

Fascists don't always wear boots....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/mahmoud-khalil-deportati...

It's pretty simple if he or anyone applied for a student Visa or even a Green card, and said im going to lead or even be involved in a protest group that support's terrorist and spread hate and intimidate other students, he or any others would have zero chance of getting a student vIsa or even a green card, it would be rejected, and the government has every right to cancel a visa or green card if they break condition's.

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

It's the same deal in Australia or most countries, when on a student or work visa you are still a guest of that country.

We even reject these type's of antagonistic people just from coming to Australia for short term stays, both on the left and right, are we fascist for doing this?

Go try doing the same shit in many other countries around the world and you will get a lot more than being deported, you would really find out what fascism is or worse..

BTW. this guy and the group he supports isn't just pro Palestine they are pro Hamas and even handed out ‘Hamas flyers complete with the full Hamas logo, and have been praised by Hamas.

AW said
"Why would you ever want to live in the US ?"

That's an easy question. to answer.

The real question is why do these people come to USA and then chant "death to America" ???

Personally i wont be breathing a sigh of relief until he is actually deported and the precedent and example is set, but god knows how long he could string things along for in the courts with appeals etc

My point is basic, regardless of where this guy is from or what circumstances launch him into the limelight, it could be anyone, anytime.

I despise the erosion of free speech, it appears that it’s eroding quickly in the USA

Forbid us as a nation if we here in Oz head the same way.

All of us on Swellnet engage in great banter, discussions, often arguments but one thing prevails and it’s underpinned by ‘Free Speech’.

Let’s all be reminded of one of the great mantras of being Australian, ‘everybody deserves a fair go’ , regardless of your background.

If you are fortunate enough to get a tax file, Centrelink and Medicare number, in my opinion you won the lottery. AW

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andy-mac Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 5:23pm
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indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:

Fascists don't always wear boots....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/mahmoud-khalil-deportati...

It's pretty simple if he or anyone applied for a student Visa or even a Green card, and said im going to lead or even be involved in a protest group that support's terrorist and spread hate and intimidate other students, he or any others would have zero chance of getting a student vIsa or even a green card, it would be rejected, and the government has every right to cancel a visa or green card if they break condition's.

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

It's the same deal in Australia or most countries, when on a student or work visa you are still a guest of that country.

We even reject these type's of antagonistic people just from coming to Australia for short term stays, both on the left and right, are we fascist for doing this?

Go try doing the same shit in many other countries around the world and you will get a lot more than being deported, you would really find out what fascism is or worse..

BTW. this guy and the group he supports isn't just pro Palestine they are pro Hamas and even handed out ‘Hamas flyers complete with the full Hamas logo, and have been praised by Hamas.

AW said
"Why would you ever want to live in the US ?"

That's an easy question. to answer.

The real question is why do these people come to USA and then chant "death to America" ???

Personally i wont be breathing a sigh of relief until he is actually deported and the precedent and example is set, but god knows how long he could string things along for in the courts with appeals etc

My point is basic, regardless of where this guy is from or what circumstances launch him into the limelight, it could be anyone, anytime.

I despise the erosion of free speech, it appears that it’s eroding quickly in the USA

Forbid us as a nation if we here in Oz head the same way.

All of us on Swellnet engage in great banter, discussions, often arguments but one thing prevails and it’s underpinned by ‘Free Speech’.

Let’s all be reminded of one of the great mantras of being Australian, ‘everybody deserves a fair go’ , regardless of your background.

If you are fortunate enough to get a tax file, Centrelink and Medicare number, in my opinion you won the lottery. AW

Exactly AW.

'I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life the right for you to say it'

Or something like that. Voltaire I believe.

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seeds Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 5:35pm

Chinese pisstake apparently
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soggydog Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 6:43pm
andy-mac wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:

Fascists don't always wear boots....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/mahmoud-khalil-deportati...

Personally i wont be breathing a sigh of relief until he is actually deported and the precedent and exanple is set, but god knows how long he could string things along for in the courts with appeals etc

Freedumb of speech ey...

Geez you're clueless.

Imagine, Indo gloating over another person’s life turning into a nightmare because of what they thought and what they said. Supporting dictatorial actions like snatching people off the streets, on behalf of a foreign war criminal to stifle public dissent. Mr fucking western democratic values, how does this fit with your Western Values Indo? I thought it was these sort of actions and attitudes that you use to justify the killing of Muslims. But now it’s “your side”,so it’s OK?
I don’t have to curse you anymore Indo. Your mind is poison, you are already cursed by your own ideology.

But I may still engage in some recreational Indo abuse occasionally.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 6:58pm
andy-mac wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
andy-mac wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:

Typical just insults.

Tell me where im wrong?

The only point you can/could make is that Green card holders aren't exactly Visa holders like a student visa etc. hence why this case was a bit fuzzy, but:

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

Hence they dont have the same rights as a full Lawful Permanent Resident.

But seems the courts are agreeing with me and not you.

Cue our legal expert any minute now, telling us they are also wrong.

That's the point, no law was broken...
Threat to national security... yeah spoken like true fascist....
Who's next. Environmental protestors?

Not going to engage with you mate, no point as you are totally gone.

This short video points out who you are supporting.

Call it antisemitic all you like, but ya cannot say it's lying.

https://m.

Well thankfully it seems like the judge see's things differently.

Im totally gone.

Fuck dude you have lost the plot.

Have you actually joined Soggy dog in thinking Hamas are freedom fighters yet?

Yes he said that the other week.

You are quite literally like chickens rallying for KFC.

Cause and effect, you oppress and kill a people they will eventually fight back anyway they can, as you would in that situation. As anyone would....

Never again should mean never again....!

Im assuming you actually really believe this so im honestly curious how do you explain

Iran's goal and billions they spend on all their proxies on trying to destroy Israel?

Or the Houthis in Yeman and their aim to destroy Israel ?

Or Hezzbollah in Lebanon aim to destroy Israel?

And there is other group's in Syria and even Iraq with the same goal.

Surely you cant claim these groups are oppressed by Israel or Jews they are not even in competition over things like resources or market's etc Iran and they Houthi's are over one thousand kilometers away, only Hezbollah you can argue has some degree of land dispute to things but things have mostly gone in their favour not Israels (and Islamist there have done a great job of turning a decent majority Christian country into another majority muslim shit hole)

If all these countries had good relation's with Israel they could actually have great economic benefits but they are blinded by a hatred of Jews.

99% of this be it Iran, Houthi's, Hezbollah, Hamas, is about, the fact that Israel is the only tiny piece of the middle east that is not under Islamic control and once was, so it must be tuned back into an islamic country, and well one other small thing, it's also written in the koran that Jews must be killed and of course there's the third most important site in islam Al-Aqsa Mosque built right on top of the Jews most sacred site. (1,500 years after Jews claimed the site)

It's why they have turned their nose up at six two state solution's even ones where they get all the prime land and even prime religious sites, its all or nothing for them.

Its also why they have little to no interest in Jordan created out of 77% of Palestine but ruled by Hashemites because they too are islamic. (although they did try to overthrow the government once "black September")

It's why Jordan never created a Palestinian state when they occupied Judea & Samaria (west Bank) for almost 20 years or Egypt Gaza the people didn't care because they were under Islamic rule.

Its never been about creating a Palestinian state its always been about destroying the only Jewish one

And If you dont understand the aspect Islam plays in this you only have about 1% understanding of the issue.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 7:07pm
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andy-mac wrote:

Fascists don't always wear boots....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/mahmoud-khalil-deportati...

It's pretty simple if he or anyone applied for a student Visa or even a Green card, and said im going to lead or even be involved in a protest group that support's terrorist and spread hate and intimidate other students, he or any others would have zero chance of getting a student vIsa or even a green card, it would be rejected, and the government has every right to cancel a visa or green card if they break condition's.

"There are various grounds for removing a green card holder, including criminal activity, fraud on the application, or engaging in activities that pose a threat to national security."

It's the same deal in Australia or most countries, when on a student or work visa you are still a guest of that country.

We even reject these type's of antagonistic people just from coming to Australia for short term stays, both on the left and right, are we fascist for doing this?

Go try doing the same shit in many other countries around the world and you will get a lot more than being deported, you would really find out what fascism is or worse..

BTW. this guy and the group he supports isn't just pro Palestine they are pro Hamas and even handed out ‘Hamas flyers complete with the full Hamas logo, and have been praised by Hamas.

AW said
"Why would you ever want to live in the US ?"

That's an easy question. to answer.

The real question is why do these people come to USA and then chant "death to America" ???

Personally i wont be breathing a sigh of relief until he is actually deported and the precedent and example is set, but god knows how long he could string things along for in the courts with appeals etc

My point is basic, regardless of where this guy is from or what circumstances launch him into the limelight, it could be anyone, anytime.

I despise the erosion of free speech, it appears that it’s eroding quickly in the USA

Forbid us as a nation if we here in Oz head the same way.

All of us on Swellnet engage in great banter, discussions, often arguments but one thing prevails and it’s underpinned by ‘Free Speech’.

Let’s all be reminded of one of the great mantras of being Australian, ‘everybody deserves a fair go’ , regardless of your background.

If you are fortunate enough to get a tax file, Centrelink and Medicare number, in my opinion you won the lottery. AW

The problem is that's just not true.

It can only be someone on a visa or green card that breaks the condition's that they are in the country under.

And if you come to a country and you are calling for the death of that country and supporting terrorist groups and stirring up civil unrest hatred and fear, esopeciually being a ring leader in things, then expect your arse to get kicked out of that country, no matter the country.

Although if you do the same shit somewhere like Indo you will probably end up in Jail, do the same shit somewhere like Iran or China and you will probably just go missing.

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seeds Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 7:30pm

Poor old Indo hasn’t considered that it’s all Trumped up.
He’s never said any of that BS you just claimed.

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southernraw Saturday, 12 Apr 2025 at 7:50pm
seeds wrote:

Chinese pisstake apparently
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hahaha hilarious!!