All Things Religion Thread
fucken ey @seeds.
What I have sensed, in spaces where people crawl back into what was once hallowed/sacred, after suffering animalistic horrors, confused, is an understanding of the little critters we are.
Never more so, than in Warsaw. People believing in a thing for comfort is fabbo! (like that magnificent David Mamet scripted Sean Penn monologue from We're No Angels), but faaaaarrrrk me. when shit turns Hobbsian, and the truth of us becomes plain, people wander into these cloud-capped towers and ask the empty sky and broken roof and say 'what? why?'. Heartbreaking.
Complete idiots, we are, this species.
- creation stories ;)
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maaaayte, that's where so many of us got our early 'philosophy', the buddhisms before 'in gandhara' kicked in, haha!! (I memorised that opening in grade 2, impressed my mates).
@seeds, you might appreciate this:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/mar/29/medieval-gr...
(there's lotsa church tours in the UK you can do now, where they take you up to the rafters and belfries, and you can see the magnificent tradies' signatures, cartoons: priest with a phalluce protruding from his head, devil with titties, etc. proud men these artists, skilled as hell, they needed the contracts and paychecks, but funny fuckers, too. Unionised too, in their little handshake clubs.
good stuff @JF ; )
I wonder who Lady Catherine was and if she indeed fared well.
fared welll..? she fookin looved it..
this one is for @Island Bay. Clare Maclean is a NZ compositional talent. This piece plays with cathedral echo in real-time, delves into modern messiness melange, comes back into simple plainsong (at 4:00), back into awkward conservative modernism, but a cracker of a song, really. Cool piece to sing, hard to pitch, I actually suspect this is a recording I sang on, gets pitchy in a way I recall. I had a chance to sing this with NYCA (National Youth Choir of Australia) in the 90s, throughout NZ. Also got to sing the NZ national anthem at a rugby game.
Brings me back to me churchin youth, Base. If i had some frankincense and myrrh, i’d be totally set.
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Not religious, sorry @popti, but much of the best is not, now that the secular world has wrested a lot of the money and power from the church and monarchies in western society.
composer John Rutter received a CBE in the same round that Andy Abel received his honour.
(I got to sing this piece in Cambridge conducted by Rutter, and perform alongside a twenty-something Aled Jones, once a boy-soprano wunderkind of 'Sailing' and 'the Snowman' fame had ball-dropped into a fairly good baritone. You can see him on Escape to the Country these days.)
(words from As You Like It by Shakespeare in 1599). this song from John Rutters 20 min 1975 song-cycle When Icicles Hang,
"In his song, Amiens comments on how human insolence and lack of appreciation are more bitter than anything the winter could deliver. This poem reflects the harm and misery those closest to us can inflict. At the beginning of the poem/song, Amiens speaks of the bitter cold winter wind."
;);)
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isn't that the real E from entourage?
ever feel like we just bought an abandoned country-town church @JF?
I reckon wax, seeds, poppaD maybe kicked in enough to have a free stay whenever,
but whadya reckon? a backpackers, or a glam airBnB?
..could always just leave it in mothballs, put it on the market later..
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I bags the lounge. I don’t need much.
Go the the Lions!!!!!
Dem Lions gona be in the big show.
Dem Lions gonna be in the big show.
When Lohmann missed that almost game sealing goal that would have put us 3 goals ahead I was gutted. Then Hipwood shit the bed on his preferred left foot at goal! Much swearing.
Edge of seat stuff after that.
Let’s hope we shine next weekend.
Ely Cathedral , The Ship of Fens , has an Ethereal Look , Feel and Sound , base 6 .
Must have been an incredible experience 4 the locals , 2 hear a Choir , Go Off there , 1000 odd years ago .
What a first live Big Gig , 2 Experience .
I heard the old Blood Sweat and Tears song , " When I die " , early this morning on PBS .
Probably , before your time , but the song has a Gospel Feel .
Some lyrics -
"When I die and when I'm gone .
There will B 1 more Child , in this world , 2 carry on . "
The song had me up and boogieing .
I reckon Opti would love the song , even though it's not pro or con religion !
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I miss Opti and reckcon he would B enjoying the Music . on this Thread !
pull up a pew @PoppaD.. this thread is great now!
an abandoned church, where Jelly and I just say hi to whoever turns up.. seeds bagsed the lounge room (greedy bastard knows that is 90% of the space, but you can get a morning sesh on his Tiger, when he's been up watching HBO) but if you wanna mow the grass or take the bins out occasionally, you're always welcome. someone should organise some bands for here.. I am enjoying reliving choir memories, but this building needs gentle repurposing. maybe philosurfizing could do the booking.
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mm, maybe you book thursdays @JF, that carbon-copy of Motörhead would be a stellar thing to have beers to the night before the working-week's last-day. PoppaD could go for schnitty and salad bar at the golf club that night.
anyone know a chippy who could make a decent jump ramp and quarter pipe for @seeds lounge?
(I'm working on a self-build home model, 1:87, based on some @Opti plans I found in the shed).
- from the congregation of the chippy shed ;)
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… & choir of the simply fantastic and spiritually plastic industrial (r)evolution
;);)
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yeh, I don't want the role of 'approver', but you can book tues and wednes too @JF.
I think seeds goes to his girfriend's midweek, but if he's home, we'll have to go acoustic.
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& some sacrilegious robotic devotion ;)
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mm, maybe suns and mons too, you're kinda fukn on it.
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welll..
If we have an abandoned church to house-share,
I'd foist a 3 buck thing on the collective, a 'living basil'
from woolies, veg section, soaked in water overnight,
then planted gives back! you'll get a couple dozen extra leaves.
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^ yep, fuk phil, if you can get 3 of any of those bands,
you can do saturdays, too @JF, I'll do nibbles.
… haha yesss
- sandwiches ;)
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I'll drop a little Aussie choir stuff maybe on the weekend @popti and @wax, but we kinda do 'spiritual' more so than 'religious' down under, in recent decades.. make of that what you will.. I would say most of the above choir pieces from OS ostensibly do the same - life's yearning for itself etc.- rather than it needing to be viewed as particularly texty religious affirmation..
but the line "at the hour of death" (from tavener's above "funeral ikos"), I agree, we have enough monkey dopamine and chemicals to make some stylised sense of the vanity of life, and embrace a fairly smooth transition to oblivion.
Local bloke, Ross Edwards, does this simply and clearly below, it is like a final-sleep memory of a starry sky, a windswept beach, making love, leaving, arriving, losing, receiving.. the pointless exquisiteness of it all. maybe as an Aussie I don't understand the subtleties of melancholy or ennui, but this is more than enough for me to peacefully drift off to midweek.
…all things ;)
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https://noxarcana.com/
Mysteries of the Night
One piece
Another
Found these guys through YouTube cathedral pipe organ music searches
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& one last audio opera choir inspired cathedral pipe organ prayer vigil tune
… a tribute to the ocean, and a homage to divine theatrical hymns ;)
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Fuck no I’m not getting in their car!
yeh, tots sunday pizza/movie night at the abandoned church @JF. may I suggest before This is Gwar (still see it for $5 at Cheap as Chips), we have a matinee of the doco Aerosmith Pump? and a kick of the footy between the two, to work out some of the Sunday morning rosé and scrambled eggs, and pretentious/precious/rockstar drivel, prior to the kinda warts and all look at how Gwar became what they did?
princesses gonna COONNTROOOLLLL>>>>
(man, in Aerosmith's Pump Doco, watching Tyler, all fingernails and silk scarves, sitting in a throne set up by the doco makers, justify 'swearing', through being like an artist having full access to his pallette, 'swears are like my mauves and my fuchsias..'. Wanna piss yourself laughing at what 'big' music is..? hahaha)
(hey churchies, I let the neighbours cows in this arvo, whoever said they'd do the grass hasn't, no dramas, the cow's are loving it, just letting y'all know there might be some cow-shit about.. I moved the boards that were lying on the lawn, they're in the shed)
^ thank u for the heads up @b666 ;)
- fellow churchies do, in fact, look after dancin’ fools
One can now divinely faith stomp amongst the cow paddies
…dancing senseless with a higher awareness of brown minefield mushrooms ;)
& when a devotee may head to the abandoned shed
- the grass will be done, and the cows tipped over
… and in peace and harmony we shall unite
- within the brine of z church of the open sky ;)
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^ hella worthy stuff.. wish the wicker faced outlast/hungersquid games/ catweazel peeps hadn't used a condenser microphone, or hadn't got their cool shit mastered by someone that uses brutal compression. pipes go south quick, reminds me of Clowns of Decadence first Nesci recording. Tabernis seem brilliant, though.
Gonna chuck these here, don't want to stall @stu's tunes thread flow. Getting my evening mellow on.
Soundtrack Openers that have a meaningful and ethereal for me, Out of Africa soundtrack (for incredible mornings) or Daft Punk's Tron: Legacy (for driving in gentle rain). They introduce EPIC soundtracks.
Here you go optimist
Not sure my motivation...my instinctive need to stick up for the underdog...my secret desire to be one day honoured rightfully with the role of Forum moderator (expecting a call any day)...
But anyway I couldn't help but read your troubles on another thread...unfortunately I found myself siding with everyone's posts...other than your own...except for the part where you were told you can't post here!
So I put my low IQ mind to coming up with a solution that suits all...and here it is...a safe place if you like
You can post anything you like about your beliefs...and no one has to read it unless they want! Easy peasy...
maybe you could even get Jesus, fat Buddha, Mohammed, and friends to converse in adult conversation here
Solving the world problems, one at a time...call it taking a shovel as a way of moving that mountain
All the best...brother
PS...I actually was born again once, but I grew up, and grew a brain of my own...and realised it was all a load of shit!