The Israel Palestine problem solving thread
Not toying with you info but if you’re bothering do try to answer the two issues I raised not offering up Israeli claptrap
adam12 wrote:@Roady, "take a break, bro. You are becoming irrational."
I was dippy, you were the one that reached out and started it.
Rode up on your little white pony and fired your cap gun at me.
Again, don't give me advice, particularly unsolicited. You ain't qualified.
Then when you get slapped back, respond with piss weak dribble like that, as per.
Perfectly lucid and "on" today keyboard pumped up papoose.
Take a fkn break yourself.
Just keep telling me what to do and I'll keep posting dogshit "your brain" memes at you' till the cows come home.
Like I said, step out of my ring, and GFY Goose.
You're a bantamweight.
Hang on…that was a slap back..hahahahahahhaha
I have zero idea what you are on about. Hang, let me go check if I care.
Nope, I don’t care.
@Indo,
saw this as I was leaving" Egypt they can keep resonable civil relations if the other side does."
Agreed, but those 'other sides' mostly have big armies and air forces and high grade military stockpiles, which may aid the motives to keep peace.
Just sayin'. Now leavin'.
Hope you are good.
Roadkill wrote:Nope, I don’t care.
1.Bullshit, otherwise you wouldn't have had your little thrill ping to start it.
2. Good now shut the fuck up about me.
@saltman "Hamas is evil - they didn't form in a vacuum"
Spot on the money with that comment
Any guesses as to who said: “Whoever opposes a Palestinian state must support delivery of funds to Gaza because maintaining separation between the PA in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza will prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.”
"There's been a lot of criticism of Netanyahu in Israel for instating a policy for many years of strengthening Hamas and keeping Gaza on the brink while weakening the Palestinian Authority," said Mairav Zonszein of the International Crisis Group. "And we've seen that happening very clearly on the ground."
"(Hamas and Netanyahu) are mutually reinforcing, in the sense that they provide each other with a way to continue to use force and rejectionism as opposed to making sacrifices and compromises in order to reach some kind of resolution," Zonszein told CBC News from Tel Aviv.
Yuval Diskin, former head of Israel's Shin Bet security service, told the daily newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth in 2013 that "if we look at it over the years, one of the main people contributing to Hamas's strengthening has been Bibi Netanyahu, since his first term as prime minister."
Netanyahu's critics say that Hamas — with its bloodthirsty rhetoric, open antisemitism and stated intention never to share the land — played into the hands of a prime minister who also wanted to be able to tell western governments that Israel has "no partner" for peace.
Supporting Hamas rule in Gaza, those critics say, allowed Netanyahu to confine the Palestinian Authority to the West Bank and weaken it, dividing the Palestinians into two mutually antagonistic blocs.
In a remarkable speech last week in Houston, Saudi Prince Turki bin Faisal unleashed on Hamas for its atrocities and obstructionism. But he also had words for Israel.
"I condemn Hamas for further undermining the Palestinian Authority, as Israel has been doing," said the former Saudi intelligence chief and ambassador to the U.S. "I condemn Hamas for sabotaging the attempt of Saudi Arabia to reach a peaceful resolution to the plight of the Palestinian people.
"I condemn Israel for funnelling Qatari money to Hamas."
Mustafa Barghouti, a physician and member of the PLO Central Council, was a key figure in talks between Hamas and Fatah that sought to unify the Palestinians in a single bloc that could negotiate a two-state peace.
"Each time we moved toward unity, Netanyahu would launch a campaign claiming that (Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud) Abbas is cooperating with terrorists," Barghouti told CBC News from Ramallah in the West Bank.
"But each time Netanyahu was asked, 'Why don't you negotiate with Abbas,' he would say, 'I can't negotiate with a Palestinian Authority that doesn't represent all Palestinians.' And so he would use Hamas and this division to justify his absolute objection to any negotiated peace agreement."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-i...
adam12 wrote:Roadkill wrote:Nope, I don’t care.
1.Bullshit, otherwise you wouldn't have had your little thrill ping to start it.
2. Good now shut the fuck up about me.
Yep, not a bantam weight, you are a heavyweight keyboard warrior.
You are triggered..unbalanced….try
https://www.beyondblue.org.au/
Roadkill wrote:adam12 wrote:Roadkill wrote:Nope, I don’t care.
1.Bullshit, otherwise you wouldn't have had your little thrill ping to start it.
2. Good now shut the fuck up about me.Yep, not a bantam weight, you are a heavyweight keyboard warrior.
You are triggered..unbalanced….try
https://www.beyondblue.org.au/
Gotta have the last word i don't you?
Hope it's getting your rocks off Tiny Cowboy.
I'm not the one that thought it was necessary to look up Beyond Blue, think you probably have it saved in your 'favorites' yourself, pretty quick to find it'n'all.
You don't trigger me at all, takes a bit more than you, but do get a laugh out of you if that counts. maybe you are confused with the name of your little buddy here, now FFS, ride on, end it, come calling another day, it's boring now, for me and everyone else I imagine, feel free to get the last word again DGAF.
— spencer chundercock (@SChundercock) January 30, 2024
soggydog wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2gIQLhvT_j/?igsh=MWh3dTBuMnR4YjVuYQ==
Yep, put very simply and accurate....
Farken hell, some still calling it as Israel having the right to defend itself...
lol. The Houthis have “killed no one”!
https://www.thejc.com/news/israel-was-behind-9-11-shock-report-exposes-d...
The guy hates Jews.
Critical Israel by all means but ant least try and reference sources, people and arguments that aren’t antisemitic.
An Irish Jew hater…promoted by people with no idea as some sort of authority…andy but but but was so fast to jump on the wagon.
One of old mates better lines,
“The Houthis humanitarian intervention in the Red Sea”
Roadkill wrote:An Irish Jew hater…promoted by people with no idea as some sort of authority…andy but but but was so fast to jump on the wagon.
Yep, criticism of the Israeli Govt and IDF and their actions is anti-Semitic....
Thought we had moved on from this puerile nonsense.
Guessing those Israeli Jews in Israel and the Jewish diaspora throughout the world criticising this IDF military slaughter are all anti Semites also.
Grow up kook.
andy-mac wrote:Roadkill wrote:An Irish Jew hater…promoted by people with no idea as some sort of authority…andy but but but was so fast to jump on the wagon.
Yep, criticism of the Israeli Govt and IDF and their actions is anti-Semitic....
Thought we had moved on from this puerile nonsense.
Guessing those Israeli Jews in Israel and the Jewish diaspora throughout the world criticising this IDF military slaughter are all anti Semites also.
Grow up kook.
Do you hold everyone in this thread to that standard?
Grow up kook.…yet there you go being purile?
“ criticism of the Israeli Govt and IDF and their actions is anti-Semitic....” no.
“ Guessing those Israeli Jews in Israel and the Jewish diaspora throughout the world criticising this IDF military slaughter are all anti Semites also.” only if you want to be ridiculous.
https://michaelwest.com.au/israel-lobbyists-target-doctors-media-business/
Worth a look.
Bonza, didn’t really know the background of the guy but I think the content is spot on. The article to counter the IG post didn’t have an author and was quite inflammatory and given the Zionist lobby doesn’t mind attempting to ruin peoples lives for being critical of Isreal I might be dubious about that one too. I could be wrong
Be good for RK and Indo to read the article and be aware of what they’re barracking for. And just remember lads. If the Jewish Lobby doxxes you for social media posts and then goes on to strong arm employers to terminate your employment, it’s all Hamas’ fault. And it wouldn’t have happened if they didn’t invade on Oct 7. Is that rite RK?
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"Michael West is a Walkley award-winning journalist who has worked as a stockbroker and business editor.
He started his career with the Financial Review and worked most recently with the Sydney Morning Herald where he conducted investigations into multinational tax avoidance and bank fraud among other things"
https://independentaustralia.net/profile-on/michael-west,588.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Michael West (born 28 August 1962) is an Australian investigative journalist. He is the founder of Michael West Media, a news website specialising in investigative journalism in the areas of business, finance, tax, and energy.[1][better source needed]
Early life and education
West is the son of the late Rod West, a former headmaster of Trinity Grammar School in Sydney.[1][2] His sister is Catherine West, a British MP.[1]
Prior to journalism, West worked for a number of years as a stockbroker.[3]
In November 2016, he received the honorary title of adjunct professor from the University of Sydney.[3][4]
Journalism career
West's career in journalism began at The Australian Financial Review.[3] He later wrote a column at The Australian newspaper titled 'Margin Call',[5] for which he was praised by the founder of Crikey, Stephen Mayne; as being 'one of the few financial journalists out there having a go at some of the business practices employed by the likes of Macquarie Bank and Babcock & Brown'.[6] In 2005, he won the business journalism Walkley Award for his article at The Australian titled "Allstate".[7][8]
He later became business editor and commentator at the Sydney Morning Herald. At the SMH his writing was particularly focused upon the Australian tax interests of multinational companies including Twitter, Google, and Facebook.[9] His stories about tax evasion by multinationals, and corruption in the Australian electricity sector[10] contributed to the establishment of two Senate Inquiries.[3]
In May 2016, West was part of an estimated 30 forced redundancies made by Fairfax Media.[9] In an interview, West described the situation at Fairfax as 'grim' and accused the publisher of pursuing a click-bait strategy.[1
Put up your CV ollie, or whatever you call yourself these days before you go defaming people.
Let the readers compare the pair.
soggydog wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2gIQLhvT_j/?igsh=MWh3dTBuMnR4YjVuYQ==
Ha ha is this real or satire?
Surely its a pisstake?
re: Michael West
Careful, those ex-stockbrokers and business analysts are notorious left wing extremists.
I’ve never tagged West as a far left conspiracy theorist.
What a weird way to describe him.
AndyM wrote:re: Michael West
Careful, those ex-stockbrokers and business analysts are notorious left wing extremists.
Yep, and unlike some, and fortunately for old mate @oliver.ricci, he's not a prolific social media defamation action hero. Otherwise one may be tempted to forward an email his way.
Tho' fucked if I know who he'd be serving the writ on. Range of "identities" that one, maybe just list the
defendant as "Sybil c/o Swellnet".
West was by far one of the only straight finance journalists that caused real anger amongst company CEO's for exposing their frauds during reporting season was very very good.
I focus wrote:West was by far one of the only straight finance journalists that caused real anger amongst company CEO's for exposing their frauds during reporting season was very very good.
Joe Aston being another.
soggydog wrote:https://michaelwest.com.au/israel-lobbyists-target-doctors-media-business/
Worth a look.
Bonza, didn’t really know the background of the guy but I think the content is spot on. The article to counter the IG post didn’t have an author and was quite inflammatory and given the Zionist lobby doesn’t mind attempting to ruin peoples lives for being critical of Isreal I might be dubious about that one too. I could be wrong
Be good for RK and Indo to read the article and be aware of what they’re barracking for. And just remember lads. If the Jewish Lobby doxxes you for social media posts and then goes on to strong arm employers to terminate your employment, it’s all Hamas’ fault. And it wouldn’t have happened if they didn’t invade on Oct 7. Is that rite RK?
Thanks soggy.
I thought the content in the IG had at least 2 red flags supporting the Jew hating Iran supported militias. But that’s just my take.
If you think the article, I posted is somewhat corrupted by the Jew / Zionist conspiracy because it had no author (? Really? ) then all you need do is type Mick Wallace in your browser for a choice of range hopefully non jew infected articles.
Is that why you responded with a MWM article? To confirm Wallace’s position on the conspiracy of secret Jewish power that controls our media and politicians?
Fair enough.
MWM has done some great stuff – I seem to recall stuff on watergate and LNP corruption in general which was great.
All power to them. Very important work. Corruption. Lobbying. Cronyism.
Why a medical professional should be referred to APHRA for voicing their freedom of speech on an issue that doesn’t concern, relate or impact their profession or duty of care I don’t know. So yeah on face value I agree that’s fkd. Why do that? For a flight attendant - maybe the employer is just trying to keep people chilled 40,000 ft up in the sky. Can you imagine why?
When in comes to the media and the Lattouf issue I strongly disagree. I don’t think sacking was unfair – rather appropriate.
I should think that’s an obvious one. If you are a legit reporter you have a duty to remain, or at least be seen to remain, impartial. For a public broadcaster that responsibility matters a hell of a lot more. That may not be fair but if you are a public servant - Perception matters. Keep your views private or get another job. This issue came up before Lattouf (I understand she was warned prior to her SM post to keep opinions neutral? Happy to be corrected), with that open letter of impartiality back in November by the pro Palestinian journos. That shitted me.
I acknowledge that this issue and my view is compromised by some media editors who are sponsored by pro-israel groups for their visits and their judgement. I think that is wrong.
The following article says it better than me https://theconversation.com/at-a-time-when-journalism-needs-to-be-at-its...
@soggy. The other thing I forgot to mention is in the interests of fairness, did MWM apply similar standards when it came to, for example the CCP lobby shitfuckery? The CCP who actually have been exposed on a number of examples of attempting and succeeding in influencing & corrupting our institutions, democracy and policy makers?
I find that interesting given the severity of that CCP issue over that last 10 years. Do you?
Thats the thing about Israel. Standards don’t matter. Jews are different.
Sorry bonza I was writing a reply and the old phone went flat. To be honest I just skimmed the article you posted this morning. Sorry if it appeared like I was giving you crap replies, that wasn’t my intention. I was just throwing shit up. Like I said I’ll re read the article and give a mor thoughtful response.
Yes mate, I find all matters of foreign influence in Australia to be of concern, none more so than the current society in decline that has for a long time through economics, espionage and conflict had a hold on Australia and influenced it course to the detriment of Australians.
And on the last post the IG one. It was only the content of the video not the posters rant that I support.
adam12 wrote:@Indo,
saw this as I was leaving" Egypt they can keep resonable civil relations if the other side does."
Agreed, but those 'other sides' mostly have big armies and air forces and high grade military stockpiles, which may aid the motives to keep peace.
Just sayin'. Now leavin'.
Hope you are good.
I cant see how Hamas having a proper army would give them any motive to keep peace?
They are radical jihadist they dont live for life in this world they live to die for a better life in the next world, and that's the real problem, they don't value life in this world, thats why they can have such disregard for their own people.
all good soggy. i didn't think your replies were crap. I know you mean well.
GuySmiley wrote:@stu, can you please explain why this topic is back on the front page again when,I think, for at least 24 hours you had moved it to the back pages
Not sure what he is doing? he moved it to the back page again
And must have seen my post and quickly moved it to the front page...he is playing games with us Guy
it just drops off the bottom, when people post on other threads dunnit?
there's 8 spots, in order of latest at the top.. I've never gotten this confusion.. do you guys on phones have a different set up?
I soo hope yr being funny, and having a dig @indo. I assume you are, but you never know ; )
basesix wrote:it just drops off the bottom, when people post on other threads dunnit?
there's 8 spots, in order of latest at the top.. I've never gotten this confusion.. do you guys on phones have a different set up?
@Basesix @IndoDreaming.
I concur, from outside the Forum window looking into the Forum nuthouse, it appears as you state B6 that when other threads of interest under the banner of WAX OFF gain popularity relative to the current discussion , the threads with the least amount of running commentary automatically disappear until they have more comments incoming than those current, it appears as though it’s just a numbers or percentage factor, I could be wrong but thats how I see it. Hope the both of you are well.AW
basesix wrote:I soo hope yr being funny, and having a dig @indo. I assume you are, but you never know ; )
Yeah i was just taking the piss.
indo-dreaming wrote:basesix wrote:I soo hope yr being funny, and having a dig @indo. I assume you are, but you never know ; )
Yeah i was just taking the piss.
noideaGuy has already filled admin inbox with emails demanding it is immediately moved back to the back page. :)
Sticking with the comedy theme
This one is perfect, it's scary because its really not that far from the truth in a weird way.
One of the main starts of the movie “Gaza surf club”
Let’s humanise the innocent people of Gaza
Haha… are facts getting you down ;)
- try …ummm …definitions
…for dummies and dilluded deadshits ;);)
…just …ummm …derrrrp haha
- sticking with the …ummm …comedy theme ;)
Genocide has never been so funny.
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