The Israel Palestine problem solving thread
AndyM wrote:Roadkill wrote:“Nothing, not Hamas, not Oct.7, nothing can justify what they have done”
Well if they hadn’t attacked and murdered a bunch of innocent Israelis, none of the Palestinians would be dead.
Hamas and some Palestinians are 100% responsible for deaths in Gaza.
So biased and full of excuses and blame shifting is our adam.I don’t think you have the ability to take on or appreciate or even consider others views. Your hate shines through.
When you say “you’re out” you should stay out.
That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.
well, that reflects on only you. no big deal
Roadkill further proof never give a FRWNJ an inch. Ideology before truth that allows them to turn away from the worst humanity can throw up.
GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill further proof never give a FRWNJ an inch. Ideology before truth that allows them to turn away from the worst humanity can throw up.
guy, other than crying to stu, who ignores you..lmao. Is this all you have? Your input is basically zero
Well if they hadn’t attacked and murdered a bunch of innocent Israelis, none of the Palestinians would be dead.
Fact ^^^^
Roadkill wrote:“Nothing, not Hamas, not Oct.7, nothing can justify what they have done”
Well if they hadn’t attacked and murdered a bunch of innocent Israelis, none of the Palestinians would be dead.
Hamas and some Palestinians are 100% responsible for deaths in Gaza.
So biased and full of excuses and blame shifting is our adam.I don’t think you have the ability to take on or appreciate or even consider others views. Your hate shines through.
When you say “you’re out” you should stay out.
100% agree
Let's not forget Hamas wanted this they have been preparing 18 years for this, you dont build the tunnels they have for no reason at all, if you dont want a war simply dont start one, its all on Hamas.
Ha ha now Roadkill is right wing?....what cause he support Israel's right to destroy Hamas?
So Biden is now right wing too?
BTW. Where do Hamas and the majority of Palestine people fall on a political spectrum?
They sure aren't left wing, i mean for god's sake having a beer and being gay is illegal and women's rights a dirty word, im ten times more progressive than them.
I guess its all a type of Islamic fascism.
….and right on cue infowomble chimes in while ignoring a very genuine heartfelt post directed his way, as plenty here have asked over the years in more eloquent terms than I could ever muster just engage with this oxygen thief? Short answer you don’t.
Yeah like you engage in any meaningful discussion, you are nothing but at troll you have zero interest in this topic, you even admit to wanting this thread shut down.
Adam has his views and i dont agree with them whatsoever, a reply is pointless and only encourages further back and fourths, it's basically agree to disagree at this stage.
oh sweet baby jebus and you think that the cat shit you post is meaningful?? You’re toying with yourself
Piss off troll
Awww infowomble is getting feisty poor lil womble
Roadkill wrote:Well if they hadn’t attacked and murdered a bunch of innocent Israelis, none of the Palestinians would be dead.
Fact ^^^^
That's a pathetic and extremely juvenile way to excuse killing civilians.
I'd say the ICJ also has a problem with your logic.
AndyM wrote:Roadkill wrote:Well if they hadn’t attacked and murdered a bunch of innocent Israelis, none of the Palestinians would be dead.
Fact ^^^^
That's a pathetic and extremely juvenile way to excuse killing civilians.
I'd say the ICJ also has a problem with your logic.
Just pointing out where the blame lies and who is responsible for all deaths in Gaza. That you refuse to accept this fact is irrelevant to me.
Let’s not forget that October 7 was a well executed surprise military operation by Hamas that unexpectedly happen to have innocent Israeli civilians in the vicinity, most of which were actually killed by Israel’s initial response, yet Israel’s overall response is not a military operation at all but an intentional indiscriminate slaughter of innocent civilians and genocide of Arab Palestinians.
“Unfortunately, the scale of suffering and death experienced in Gaza is exacerbated not by genocidal intent, but rather by several factors, including the tactics of the Hamas organization itself which often entails its forces embedding amongst the civilian population and installations, rendering them vulnerable to legitimate military attack,”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/justice-barak-icj-ruling-based-on-scant-ev...
bonza wrote:“Unfortunately, the scale of suffering and death experienced in Gaza is exacerbated not by genocidal intent, but rather by several factors, including the tactics of the Hamas organization itself which often entails its forces embedding amongst the civilian population and installations, rendering them vulnerable to legitimate military attack,”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/justice-barak-icj-ruling-based-on-scant-ev...
Or, 15 out of 17 judges on the International Court of Justice agreed that "some Israeli actions in the war against Hamas may violate the Genocide Convention".
And even the Israeli judge agreed that Israel should do everything “within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip,” and furthermore Israel should implement “immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
Yep, nothing to see here.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/29/israeli-ministers-attend-c...
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AndyM wrote:bonza wrote:“Unfortunately, the scale of suffering and death experienced in Gaza is exacerbated not by genocidal intent, but rather by several factors, including the tactics of the Hamas organization itself which often entails its forces embedding amongst the civilian population and installations, rendering them vulnerable to legitimate military attack,”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/justice-barak-icj-ruling-based-on-scant-ev...
Or, 15 out of 17 judges on the International Court of Justice agreed that "some Israeli actions in the war against Hamas may violate the Genocide Convention".
And even the Israeli judge agreed that Israel should do everything “within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip,” and furthermore Israel should implement “immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
“May”. That’s an important distinction. Time will tell.
Meanwhile
https://www.memri.org/reports/south-africas-diplomatic-campaign-against-...
This is for the Jelly Guy and his other voices who like to waste their lives digging up old posts...
fairy tales you say....history and the book of revelation may prove your demons wrong....
.....an old post of my own...
soggydog wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/29/israeli-ministers-attend-c...
"We have to return home, because that is the Torah, that is morality, that is historic justice, that is logic and that is the right thing.”
Truly dangerous people, few things are as unhinged as religious fundamentalism.
Settlement brings security and, by that logic, arbeit macht frei.
;);)
https://m.
&pp=ygUZUGhpbG9tZW5hIGN1bmsgcGF1bCBqZXN1cw%3D%3DHahaha ;)
- flopti the storyteller still clutching at straws
…enjoy ya book of revelations and whatever else consumes ya peanut brain
- religious fanaticism and armageddon nut bag theories are for lost souls ;)
Don’t try talk about ppl and their supposed ‘other’ voices you fuckwit
- you are the one with an imaginary special hotline to baby jesus haha
…get a farkn life flopti u man child ;);)
Optimist wrote:This is for the Jelly Guy and his other voices who like to waste their lives digging up old posts...
fairy tales you say....history and the book of revelation may prove your demons wrong....
.....an old post of my own...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl_gemn9a9E
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Er……. I’m good to open my self up for a few barbs here. But yes, a lot of the things in that apocalyptic re-post seem to be coming to fruition. Australia is even moving towards a digital ID, completely voluntary, until it’s not. While I don’t agree with a lot of Opti says, in regards to the re-post. I’d say watch this space.
indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:“Nothing, not Hamas, not Oct.7, nothing can justify what they have done”
Well if they hadn’t attacked and murdered a bunch of innocent Israelis, none of the Palestinians would be dead.
Hamas and some Palestinians are 100% responsible for deaths in Gaza.
So biased and full of excuses and blame shifting is our adam.I don’t think you have the ability to take on or appreciate or even consider others views. Your hate shines through.
When you say “you’re out” you should stay out.
100% agree
Let's not forget Hamas wanted this they have been preparing 18 years for this, you dont build the tunnels they have for no reason at all, if you dont want a war simply dont start one, its all on Hamas.
Yes - Hamas wanted to provoke Israel and derail the Arab Israel peace talks, hopefully bring othetr groups into their murderous plans
The tunnels were built out of necessity https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/07/26/335332220/the-long-his...
Hamas is evil - they didn't form in a vacuum
Palestinians are not Hamas, any more than all Jews are IDF assassins
bonza wrote:AndyM wrote:bonza wrote:“Unfortunately, the scale of suffering and death experienced in Gaza is exacerbated not by genocidal intent, but rather by several factors, including the tactics of the Hamas organization itself which often entails its forces embedding amongst the civilian population and installations, rendering them vulnerable to legitimate military attack,”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/justice-barak-icj-ruling-based-on-scant-ev...
Or, 15 out of 17 judges on the International Court of Justice agreed that "some Israeli actions in the war against Hamas may violate the Genocide Convention".
And even the Israeli judge agreed that Israel should do everything “within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip,” and furthermore Israel should implement “immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
“May”. That’s an important distinction. Time will tell.
Meanwhile
https://www.memri.org/reports/south-africas-diplomatic-campaign-against-...
Super dodgy, expect a lot of money being paid to those high up in South Africa government.
The only real way to repair this is to convince the UAE somehow to run Gaza as a demilitarised zone and thereby use the incredible amount of money Gaza gets to rebuild a new type of Dubai on the sea.
The people in Gaza would love it, Israel would love it and anyone who wants to be in Hamas can move to Iran and plot against Israel there where the trouble makers live. The Gazans would become quite wealthy in a short space of time. Everyone wins.
No the only real way to repair this is the destruction and dissolution of the state of Israel, the genocide of all Jewish people, and then the dismantling and dissolution of the British colonial empire including the US and handing of land back to the “indigenous” people living there prior to the Industrial Revolution and expansion of the British and European empires…and then the full restoration of China as the Middle Kingdom with all other peoples as subservient communist tributary states under the central control of the Chinese emperor…
seems a monthly thing, these little outbursts of yours @olivia.ricci
year 12 history student, or bozo re-watching game of thrones..?
,,don't tell me, i like the mystery ; )
what…that’s what you, Jelly Flater and mates are pushing for. At least I’m not in online forums posting 20-30 comments per day under multiple profiles advocating for that outcome..
yup, a piece of shit has a thousand eyes, and we're all looking at yoooooooo.........
Haha ;)
- ‘multiple profiles’ hahaha
…says the nutter using the phrase ‘Middle Kingdom’ ;)
- exact same phrase brought to the fore by gsco
…haha green room was short lived tho ay duuuuuuuude
- but yet u live on still with the same anti communist paranoid hubris
#vanlifegrandsocialistconspiracyomen ;);)
https://m.
&pp=ygUSY3JhenkgYXMgYSBjb2NvbnV0 @Roady,
"When you say “you’re out” you should stay out."
Well I'm back again, just to say this to you little man.
The day I start taking advice from a puffed up little turd such as yourself Roady, will be the day they are taking me away to a padded cell somewhere and feeding me lithium.
Stick with your own little warped view of the world and the jibberish you back and forth with with your little friend(s) here, which to me sounds less perceptive but exactly like these two...
This wins the internet.. 😂
— Buitengebieden (@buitengebieden) January 28, 2024
Sound on pic.twitter.com/TBjz5ibYSm
Don't go stepping in my ring again, you aren't even a contender, probably one of the easiest bits of fluff on here to belittle tbh. The Goose AKA has stuck fast for now.
But you be you Goose, ring that bell if you like...
— spencer chundercock (@SChundercock) January 30, 2024
adam12 wrote:@Roady,
"When you say “you’re out” you should stay out."Well I'm back again, just to say this to you little man.
The day I start taking advice from a puffed up little turd such as yourself Roady, will be the day they are taking me away to a padded cell somewhere and feeding me lithium.
Stick with your own little warped view of the world and the jibberish you back and forth with with your little friend(s) here, which to me sounds less perceptive but exactly like these two...
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1751417533373002093Don't go stepping in my ring again, you aren't even a contender, probably one of the easiest bits of fluff on here to belittle tbh. The Goose AKA has stuck fast for now.
But you be you Goose, ring that bell if you like...
https://twitter.com/SChundercock/status/1752182310911504744
umm, What? babbling away to no one.
R U OK, adam?
Roadkill wrote:R U OK, adam?
Hahaha,
See what I mean Goosey.
Top comeback!
Did your mummy help you with that one?
While she's there, you might need to get her to refresh what's between your ears with this...
https://twitter.com/SChundercock/status/1752193115820368073
Seems what was already in there has been out in the sun too long, dried up and is turning to shit dust.
As for me, don't stress little wabbit, looks like I may be delaying going back to work after my annual three month summer break..looks like the season may get extended just for you...
— spencer chundercock (@SChundercock) January 30, 2024
Second warning Goose.
You're in the fish barrel.
Might have to be getting the guns down from where I tried to keep them hung up as far as the zombies on this thread were concerned.
You want me back?
Thought you told me you didn't.
Make up your dog shit mind and dig a bit deeper with your next one.
Grow some pubes on that little dick for once, not the fluff you are currently sporting.
Sheesh.
adam12 wrote:Roadkill wrote:R U OK, adam?
Hahaha,
See what I mean Goosey.
Top comeback!
Did your mummy help you with that one?
While she's there, you might need to get her to refresh what's between your ears with this...
https://twitter.com/SChundercock/status/1752193115820368073
Seems what was already in there has been out in the sun too long, dried up and is turning to shit dust.
As for me, don't stress little wabbit, looks like I may be delaying going back to work after my annual three month summer break..looks like the season may get extended just for you...
— spencer chundercock (@SChundercock) January 30, 2024Second warning Goose.
You're in the fish barrel.
Might have to be getting the guns down from where I tried to keep them hung up as far as the zombies on this thread were concerned.
You want me back?
Thought you told me you didn't.
Make up your dog shit mind and dig a bit deeper with your next one.
Grow some pubes on that little dick for once, not the fluff you are currently sporting.
Sheesh.
take a break, bro. You are becoming irrational.
Sound advice for all you guys Roadie.
I’m going to revisit this lie/line peddled here by the FRWNJs that just because Hamas started this war all deaths are down to them and by inference or otherwise the IDF are excused from being held responsible for any and all atrocities committed and the rules of war (oxymoron) somehow don’t apply.
Further, the other lie peddled here is that Israel is innocent of any wrongdoing leading up to the conflict and that the Palestinians have been fairly treated since the ‘67 war by the Israel government; ie Hamas have emerged in a vacuum.
Both lies reveal in their believers an extreme ideology where the opponents to their favoured side aren’t worthy of being treated like humans, that misery or death is their fate ; now what does history tell us about political or religious movements like that … and speaking of history those rules of war (oxymoron) that are being fragrantly broken now shouldn’t be so easily dismissed given the 100s of thousands killed in past conflicts when rules didn’t exist.
Come on cockroaches/wombles refute ^^^
'fragrantly broken'.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
In Guys mind
FRNJ= Israel and it supporters.
In reality= Israel and people like me support, one of the few democracies in the middle east, one of the most multicultural countries in the middle east, highest level of women's rights in the middle east, abortion legal, drinking alcohol legal, bars & night clubs even gay clubs, people can openly be gay, SSM recognised, a thriving LGBTQI community, complete with yearly mardi gra type parade, pot even decriminalised for social and medical use (leader in medical cannabis), gun laws not disimilar to Australia, although expect that to change as realistically people living near borders should have guns.
Meanwhile Guy and others defend a state/territory that hasn't had an election since 2005 and even then those who won(Hamas), murdered some of the opposition, being gay is illegal alcohol illegal, death penalty still regularly applied, women's rights, almost non existent.
Yep, saw that too late to edit, you’re welcome @zen glad to make your day:))
That's ok Guy. I should have said I liked your post and for the most part concur.
But I'm staying way away from this thread. Way too much hate on both sides.
Over there too.
Nice deflection infowomble now address the issues if you can that is
“Come on cockroaches/wombles refute ^^^”
If you ask like this, you don’t deserve a reply.
Cheers @zen
It's all been said before Guy, so i will put it a bit differently this time.
In the 80s Israel gave back the Sinai peninsula to Egypt in a peace plan, an area twice the size of Israel and rich in oil and gas, a lot to give up but it created a reasonable level of peace between the two neighbours at least by middle east standards.
In 2005 Israel did the same thing with Gaza, i guess hoping for the same outcome, but the outcome was totally different, not long after the deal, Hamas attacked Israel and have attacked Israel on and off ever since.
Both Egypt and Gaza made choices, but very different ones, unfortunately Gaza/Hamas choose war and destruction instead of peace and working towards prosperity.
Hamas have been planning for a war for at least 18 years that they wanted, its not a war Israel ever wanted and as they have shown with Egypt they can keep resonable civil relations if the other side does.
Yeah you will say, but what about the blockades and restriction's put on them and bullshit about Gaza being a prison, these things came latter a result of the fact they choose war, any country would do the same, even Egypt blockaded their border with Gaza, because they have had enough with terrorist.
@Roady, "take a break, bro. You are becoming irrational."
I was dippy, you were the one that reached out and started it.
Rode up on your little white pony and fired your cap gun at me.
Again, don't give me advice, particularly unsolicited. You ain't qualified.
Then when you get slapped back, respond with piss weak dribble like that, as per.
Perfectly lucid and "on" today keyboard pumped up papoose.
Take a fkn break yourself.
Just keep telling me what to do and I'll keep posting dogshit "your brain" memes at you' till the cows come home.
Like I said, step out of my ring, and GFY Goose.
You're a bantamweight.
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