The Israel Palestine problem solving thread

hey Flopti, are all those dead kids from Palestine going to heaven?

Of course not, they believe in the wrong god.

This one?
(maybe @adam12s Jack Russell is onto something)

Optimist wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8GF4pdvYmQ
Some History.

What happens to the dead kids flopti?

Haha ;)
- flopti is now a 'youtube moron'

Not just a bible moron ;)
- the hypocrisy keeps flourishing ;);)

As for the little children, their blood is on the hands of Hamas and Iran...
....Their souls however are in the loving presence of their heavenly father...no more tears for them.

Optimist wrote:

When the Jews returned to their true indigenous home land in 1948 there was nothing there.
Barren wasteland that had been over run by Arab Bedouin cattle for many years.
Swamps so filled with malaria that the Jews suffered for years with the disease.
But…they worked hard and made the desert bloom. They drained the swamps and diverted the water for farming. They started collective kibbutz farms and worked as a team. They built an enviable society out of the leftover dust of their heritage lands.
They specialised in glasshouse farming and invented micro irrigation. They cultured new crops that could grow in salty ground. They also shared all their discoveries with their Arab neighbours so everyone would benefit.
This is the reality of Israel, not some manufactured bullshit you tube nonsense.
They came home, they fixed the place and they prospered.
The only people who were jealous were the Islamic jihad crowd because they actually produce nothing,.. they fix nothing …they do nothing but parasite off others until there’s nothing left then move on.
You don’t have to like bibi either as many don’t, but he is a soldier and he’s good at that and when you have a war you need a soldier not a bullshitting pollie.
I’m sure if and when this war is ever over, the Israelis will vote him out and get someone else, but until then they need an army guy with experience.
So, the reason Israel is a nice place, is because of the Israelis and their hard work and vision…nobody else wanted the place , it was a dump until they came along and transformed it. So teach your kids the truth as they are being used by fools.

The reason Isreal is a nice place is at the expense of largely the US middle class through aid paid for by US taxes. Now the reason they can still receive arms is because the US, the UK and Australia is providing safe passage. They’re best described as parasites as without so much foreign aid they’d be much much less. And their ability to conduct their settler colonial project would be greatly diminished.
Misinterpretation of religious rights provides them with the propaganda to justify their continued occupation.
Bibi’s is a bullshit artist of the highest order with clear and stated genocidal intent. He’s a bullshitting pollie dragging the world into another conflict for reasons based on deception lies and bullshit.

But that’s just what I think.

Hitler is not amused about Hamas being called the next Nazis. ;)

Yep .

https://michaelwest.com.au/houthis-israel-netanyahu-australia-war/

Wow.

"......They’re best described as parasites"

glad we are clear on what you think thanks soggy. adam may want to offer us all a history lesson on that antisemitic label. Best not mention the war.

How is describing Israel as parasitic on the west anti Semitic Bonza?
It’s an assessment of the facts. Nothing more nothing less. A parasite is detrimental to its host. Through the strip mining of taxes from a society in decline to the escalation of conflict dragging its host’s into the Frey.

It’s a well known ( I thought) antisemitic stereotype used through the ages.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_parasite#History

bonza wrote:

It’s a well known ( I thought) antisemitic stereotype used through the ages.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_parasite#History

Thanks for that link Bonza, I was unaware of the historical context of that stereotype...but found this interesting quote at the end

"We are a parasitic people. We have no roots in the ground, there is no reason under our feet. And we are parasites not only in economic sense, but also in spirit, in thought, in poetry, in literature, in our virtues, our ideals, our higher human aspirations. Every foreign movement sweeps us with itself, every wind in the world carries us. We ourselves are almost non-existent, which is why we are of course nothing in the eyes of other peoples."

— Aharon David Gordon

The contradictions within us all

And for some context:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._D._Gordon

Jeez, I’m glad someone brought it up. There might be hope for this thread.

thanks SG but did you read the intent in soggys use of that word to be in the same vein as Gordon's innocent quote? I didn't. Like I said I'll give soggy the benefit of doubt. The thing is that from day 1 this thread either intentionally or not has been peppered with numerous antisemitic conspiracies, lables and accusations some of which i have highlighted previously. Essentially it just seems to me that most commentators here don't see any legitimacy or right for israel to exist as a state. The "colonists" jews should just pull up stumps and exist only as a minority people, in an Arab Palestinian state. I'm sure that would work out fine.
That's antisemitism.

Israel might have received a lot of non military aid in the past, but you would expect almost all now is military aid?

And it only needs this military aid because it has to protect itself from its shitty neighbours.

Palestine also receives a shit load of aid and we all know in Gaza's case a shit load has been spent on tunnels and rockets with fat greedy Hamas leaders sitting safely in Qatar.

Too suggest Israel is only successful because of aid is clearly BS, Jews are one of the most successful hard working groups in the world, that's half the reason why many hate them.

If you want to boycott Jewish or Israeli companies the list is long and it would be a real pain in the arse.

And this is despite the fact they all through history they have been persecuted and screwed over, this whole intergenerational trauma thing is like water off a ducks back for Jews.

bonza wrote:

thanks SG but did you read the intent in soggys use of that word to be in the same vein as Gordon's innocent quote? I didn't. Like I said I'll give soggy the benefit of doubt. The thing is that from day 1 this thread either intentionally or not has been peppered with numerous antisemitic conspiracies, lables and accusations some of which i have highlighted previously. Essentially it just seems to me that most commentators here don't see any legitimacy or right for israel to exist as a state. The "colonists" jews should just pull up stumps and exist only as a minority people, in an Arab Palestinian state. I'm sure that would work out fine.
That's antisemitism.

No, that’s being critical of the Zionist project conducted by Isreal. Hate towards Jews as a religious ideology would be anti Semitic. They’re different Bonza. And that has been one of the big sticking points in the critical assessment of the current situation.

Seems like the war of words still going strong here.
Thanks for some of the replies above. Think I've had enough to say for a while. But reading thru I thought this thread is definitely missing something....needs something....then it hit me...
More cowbell...

(Saw Chistopher Walken, one of my all time favorite actors, talking about this skit once, said of all his roles he ever played this one got him the most public feedback. Waiters in restaurants would come up to ask if his meal was o.k. and say "does it need more cowbell?", people would yell it across the street at him, etc. Said he wished he'd never done it eventually, the "feedback" got so annoying.
Also that's Jimmy Fallon on drums, and I think you all would recognise who's on cowbell.
Hope that was a thread flusher. Carry on)

Bonza,

Far be it for me to speak on behalf of soggy, I don't believe that soggys' comment was based on antisemitism, more humanist intentions.

I personally have no problem with the existence of the state of Israel and for Israel to exercise its right to protect its citizens.

I do have a big problem with the disproportionality of response by the IDF facilitated by Netanyahu, a totally untrustworthy and duplicitous politician.

Lets cut the bullshit Soggy dog is 100% anti Jew anti anti Israel, his intent was clear.

So is Jelly brain and Seeds.

The shit Soggy dog has tried to spin is unbelievable and hard to take seriously like his idea Hamas toning down their charter and not including the bit about wanting to rid Israel of all Jews, actually means they have changed or something, or that a IDF military base below a military base is somehow the same as hundreds of kilometres of tunnels that focus on sensitive civilian areas like hospitals, mosque, schools etc not to mention all the other military infrastructure that is mixed in with civilian areas, rocket launching sites, rockets storage, bases, command centres etc.

Fuck off noinfo.

You're a serial bullshit artist ;)

Provide examples of a antisemitism, I've challenged u repeatedly to do so and u can't. Coz there are none ;);)

Calling out extremist Zionist ideology, the lies of bibi, and highlighting the killing of civilians is not anti Jew.

The fact you can't make a distinction this far into the thread just shows how fucked in the head you are.

Stop throwing out baseless accusations or back them up.

This thread has exposed:
- rampant racist antisemitism
- complete and willing lack of education and ignorance to world history
- a first impulse to jump to simpleton conspiracy theory “explanations” of world events
- widespread gullibility to toxic left ideology
- widespread gullibility to Islamic terrorist propaganda
- open willingness to be a mouthpiece for Islamic terrorists and go into bat for them and spread their propaganda, knowingly or otherwise

The only consolation is that this thread reflects a large portion of the general public and the whole political left.

Swellnet has done the right thing by allowing this toxic cesspit of Islamic terrorist propaganda to ride, just like Western nations have done with the idiotic people marching in support of Islamic terrorists in the streets, since it openly displays for everyone to see just how toxic, fucked up and deranged people and the left side of politics are, and in the interests of free speech and free assembly.

Hiya little buddy Olly. Good chat.

Jelly Flater wrote:

Fuck off noinfo.

You're a serial bullshit artist ;)

Provide examples of a antisemitism, I've challenged u repeatedly to do so and u can't. Coz there are none ;);)

Calling out extremist Zionist ideology, the lies of bibi, and highlighting the killing of civilians is not anti Jew.

The fact you can't make a distinction this far into the thread just shows how fucked in the head you are.

Stop throwing out baseless accusations or back them up.

The day after 7th October while everyone was in shock and horror you posted some Free Palestine rap video and ever since you have just posted endless propaganda full of blatant misinformation that Hamas would give a huge tick of approval too.

BTW. I said Anti Jew/Anti Israel which pretty much everything you post is.

oliver.ricci wrote:

This thread has exposed:
- rampant racist antisemitism
- complete and willing lack of education and ignorance to world history
- a first impulse to jump to simpleton conspiracy theory “explanations” of world events
- widespread gullibility to toxic left ideology
- widespread gullibility to Islamic terrorist propaganda
- open willingness to be a mouthpiece for Islamic terrorists and go into bat for them and spread their propaganda, knowingly or otherwise

The only consolation is that this thread reflects a large portion of the general public and the whole political left.

Swellnet has done the right thing by allowing this toxic cesspit of Islamic terrorist propaganda to ride, just like Western nations have done with the idiotic people marching in support of Islamic terrorists in the streets, since it openly displays for everyone to see just how toxic, fucked up and deranged people and the left side of politics are, and in the interests of free speech and free assembly.

100% very well said.

oliver.ricci wrote:

This thread has exposed:
- rampant racist antisemitism
- complete and willing lack of education and ignorance to world history
- a first impulse to jump to simpleton conspiracy theory “explanations” of world events
- widespread gullibility to toxic left ideology
- widespread gullibility to Islamic terrorist propaganda
- open willingness to be a mouthpiece for Islamic terrorists and go into bat for them and spread their propaganda, knowingly or otherwise

The only consolation is that this thread reflects a large portion of the general public and the whole political left.

Swellnet has done the right thing by allowing this toxic cesspit of Islamic terrorist propaganda to ride, just like Western nations have done with the idiotic people marching in support of Islamic terrorists in the streets, since it openly displays for everyone to see just how toxic, fucked up and deranged people and the left side of politics are, and in the interests of free speech and free assembly.

No gay or sexual slurs, well done mate!

Haha ;)
- noinfo, still got nothing but misdirected petty outrage ;);)

Says a lot if u endorse ollie the whack job.

… and if you’re happy to be pro bibi then lick away…
Carry on gumboot ;);)

- u got nothin

https://m.

;);)

….and credit to @andy-mac ;)
- this is brilliant

;);)

https://michaelwest.com.au/houthis-israel-netanyahu-australia-war/

The very fact you think im pro Bibi shows how clueless you are, as ive said before I think both him and Hamas need to go but Israel is a democracy so the people (including Arabs) will get a chance to vote him out.

I listen to lots of Israel news sources with all kinds of views and the common theme is most Israeli's think he should go, but its not at all based on how he has handled things post 7th October but more things before 7th October and allowing 7th October to happen.

BTW. there is only one reason people like you try to link Bibi to Hitler or Israel to nazis or whatever and its because you know its the lowest punch to Jews it the thing that inflicts the most pain or insult.

Maybe u meant pro bambi ;);)
- after all, most of what u say doesn’t make sense.

Carry on ;)

Haha… ( good ol ‘people like you’ ) whatever u reckon ;)
- your only strongpoints are assumptions and false accusations

Carry on ;);)

;);)

https://m.

oliver.ricci wrote:

This thread has exposed:
- rampant racist antisemitism
- complete and willing lack of education and ignorance to world history
- a first impulse to jump to simpleton conspiracy theory “explanations” of world events
- widespread gullibility to toxic left ideology
- widespread gullibility to Islamic terrorist propaganda
- open willingness to be a mouthpiece for Islamic terrorists and go into bat for them and spread their propaganda, knowingly or otherwise

The only consolation is that this thread reflects a large portion of the general public and the whole political left.

Swellnet has done the right thing by allowing this toxic cesspit of Islamic terrorist propaganda to ride, just like Western nations have done with the idiotic people marching in support of Islamic terrorists in the streets, since it openly displays for everyone to see just how toxic, fucked up and deranged people and the left side of politics are, and in the interests of free speech and free assembly.

olivergscogreenroom.
What do you think about 100’s of billions of US taxes being used to prop up a country that has far better social infrastructure than the US whilst still being able to afford to drop thousands of bombs on Gaza and your government can’t even provide adequate healthcare, public education or social safety nets for its own population. Shouldn’t that piss you off?

I’m assuming you’re a Seppo. I could be wrong though. ( on the seppo bit)

oliver.ricci wrote:

This thread has exposed:
- rampant racist antisemitism
- complete and willing lack of education and ignorance to world history
- a first impulse to jump to simpleton conspiracy theory “explanations” of world events
- widespread gullibility to toxic left ideology
- widespread gullibility to Islamic terrorist propaganda
- open willingness to be a mouthpiece for Islamic terrorists and go into bat for them and spread their propaganda, knowingly or otherwise

The only consolation is that this thread reflects a large portion of the general public and the whole political left.

Swellnet has done the right thing by allowing this toxic cesspit of Islamic terrorist propaganda to ride, just like Western nations have done with the idiotic people marching in support of Islamic terrorists in the streets, since it openly displays for everyone to see just how toxic, fucked up and deranged people and the left side of politics are, and in the interests of free speech and free assembly.

Hahahahahaha,

Sybil returns!
Fkn hilarious. Thought that clip I posted was pretty funny but laughed out loud at this effort by the resident schitzo right wing western crusader. He of the multiple boring personalities.
Preferred that Floridian "Y'all dude" greenroom one more though to be honest, he was one righteous dude that guy.
GSCO why you feel the need to cleave your personality to come on here is beyond me.
Be a man, have the courage in your convictions, stand by your words, good or bad. There are people here that have been here a long time on these threads and said things others vehemently disagree with and pull apart, been attacked, said both the stupid and the wise, sometimes in the same post. I'm on that list myself. But they (in general, a few notable exceptions) have the guts to stand in front of their words.
I've learned a lot by the experience, about myself and from others. made a fool of myself here plenty.
But this spinning off different versions of yourself. FMD. Even with an accent thrown in to somehow disguise yourself (didn't work once by the way, the attacks launched gave it away from the get go, every one of your "people inside my head", they all said the same fkn thing!)
If your bed ever starts violently rocking and your head starts spinning and you start throwing up green slime it might be time to DM @Opti and see if he knows a good exorcist.
Quite prepared to interact with anyone, but not you pal, not unless you can shut away all your other personalities, man up and have the guts to just be yourself.
Or maybe some of the geniuses that come here, @basesix comes to mind, can come up with more personalities for you to try on us, could be a fun little game. An English Lord, a Japanese Yakuza, I don't know.
And your oliver.ricci , this new one, he lacks detail in his abuse, just "anti-west uneducated", "brainwashed lefties" "Hamas sympathisers", "why don't you fly to Gaza and join them", you can do much better. Dig deeper cowboy.
So you get nothing but what I've just said from me. I want to talk to GSCO, is he in there? Let him speak.
Except I feel the need to point out those people, the many hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them, all over the world, that you accuse of marching for Hamas, well that just shows what a pig ignorant SOB you can be, or should I say ''all" of you can be.
They were marching because Palestinians are being slaughtered en masse, but you be you Sybil.It's kinda fun seeing how many "toxic, fucked up and deranged people" you got in there yourself.

indo-dreaming wrote:

BTW. there is only one reason people like you try to link Bibi to Hitler or Israel to nazis or whatever and its because you know its the lowest punch to Jews it the thing that inflicts the most pain or insult.

Oh FFS and you just yesterday lumped the people of Gaza as Jew hating Nazis or doesn’t that cognitive impairment you clearly have allow you to remember that far back?

Haha ;)
- everyone remembers the protest marches against the Iraq war…

Damn them!
- they were all pro sadaam mutha fuckas… every one of them ;);)

Optideluded’s clip from the 700 Club. What a foray into his historical beliefs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_700_Club
Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye were the first presenters on this gobbledegook TV biblical bollocking to the brain dead.

An old clip from the makers of 'Honest Government' adds.

GuySmiley wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

BTW. there is only one reason people like you try to link Bibi to Hitler or Israel to nazis or whatever and its because you know its the lowest punch to Jews it the thing that inflicts the most pain or insult.

Oh FFS and you just yesterday lumped the people of Gaza as Jew hating Nazis or doesn’t that cognitive impairment you clearly have allow you to remember that far back?

The conversation was about Hitler and Nazi's and related stuff found in Hamas possession.

And i joined the conversation and said "Its really not that far fetched though that some in Gaza might idolise hitler, i mean they do literally hate Jews."

Which somehow weirdly triggered you?

I did not post videos or memes or other garbage trying to link Palestines or Israeli's or IDF or whatever to Nazis or Hitler, like you see in the video posted and you see in silly memes.

Which are like i said just clearly put together by people who hate Jews trying to inflict as much pain on them as possible.

trying to write me off as a previous commenter is fucking imbecilic and boring, and a great deflection, Hamas fucboi. adam12 your recent novels in here sound “like so fantabulous and in tune with the cosmic vibrations” but are really just the factually incorrect, acid filled, schizophrenic ramblings of a psychopathic extreme leftie. And basesix just sucks up everyone’s arse in an orgy of group love, he’s no genius, fucking dull and unoriginal really.

That’s gold Tubeshooter.

oliver.ricci wrote:

trying to write me off as a previous commenter is fucking imbecilic and boring, and a great deflection, Hamas fucboi. adam12 your recent novels in here sound “like so fantabulous and in tune with the cosmic vibrations” but are really just the factually incorrect, acid filled, schizophrenic ramblings of a psychopathic extreme leftie. And basesix just sucks up everyone’s arse in an orgy of group love, he’s no genius, fucking dull and unoriginal really.

You're not a previous commenter but you put Blue Diamond at the top of your hit list..yet...not a single post from dead blue in this thread nor for the last year of so.. How does that add up.
Clearly GSCO and clearly not well.

oliver.ricci wrote:

trying to write me off as a previous commenter is fucking imbecilic, and a great deflection, Hamas fucboi. adam12 your recent novels in here sound “like so fantabulous and in tune with the cosmic vibrations” but are really just the factually incorrect, acid filled, schizophrenic ramblings of a psychopathic extreme leftie. And basesix just sucks up everyone’s arse in an orgy of group love, he’s no genius, fucking dull and unoriginal really.

Hahaha.
I'm not the only one here that saw through the charade Ollie. No deflection on my part, just don't think I'm talking to a rational mind is all. Seems Ollies' in control now. Oh, well, actually thought at one time GSCO was worth reading. Didn't agree much, but still worth reading.
Easy to accuse one of factual incorrectness, bit harder to be specific and show me where I've been so. Quite prepared to concede and correct. But don't bother, like I said, I'll talk to GSCO if he ever comes back. Ollie is just predictable and boring.
And to revert to the lowest form of debate for a minute, pedantry, "Hamas fuck boi" has a "k" in there somewhere, maybe you missed a letter while your head was spinning off or the other voices were talking to you, maybe the "k" on your keyboard got stuck flicking off too many emails to the "kkk" while your brain was in Florida that time.
Love to know or get a "Hamas fuck boi" quote or post I've made. Doubt you'd find one. Try, let the jury decide. Been very specific in my condemnation of them here, repeatedly. So find one or STFU.

mate ffs that green room weirdo mentioned blue diamond, not me, I haven’t noticed that commenter. southernraw I love watching you try so hard to sound like so informed, reasonable and academic to hide your antisemitism and pro terrorist stance

oliver.ricci wrote:

mate ffs that green room weirdo mentioned blue diamond, not me, I haven’t noticed that commenter. southernraw I love watching you you try so hard to sound like so informed, reasonable and academic to hide your antisemitism and pro terrorist stance

Can an anti semite have a Jewish girlfriend?
Fuckwit.