2022 Election
Well insiders should definitely be interesting on Sunday , will anything relating to FJ be asked ?
I’m wondering if Dutton will go ahead with his #Insiders interview on Sunday and whether he’ll be asked certain questions?
— Peter Klages (@PeterKlages) March 4, 2022
Supafreak wrote:Well insiders should definitely be interesting on Sunday , will anything relating to FJ be asked ? https://twitter.com/peterklages/status/1499594509482532869?s=21
Reckon he may have caught Covid again ...
Bloody hell. I'm not too naïve to ignore that this exists on both sides of the political landscape, but this is a prime example of why we need an ICAC with teeth and why the LNP are so desperate not to push for one.
If it was that easy just to uncover that one tiny example, can you imagine the depth of this shit that would be uncovered. It would keep a team of hundreds busy for years.
The sad thing is, this sort of shitfuckery has been going on for so long, they appear to be oblivious to the seriousness of it. It's just situation normal and don't even try to hide it.
Facto! Commenting like the DC you are.
Which is cool. Y'know, for a DC...
Carry on .....
In regards to FJ video; surprise surprise that the msm unless I have missed something have totally ignored it. Serious allegations concerning a Minister and Federal Police and not a thing. Only caught bit of interview of the said Minister on Insiders and our courageous Forth Estate seemed also to let opportunity go by.
Anyone surprised ?I am embarassed for #Speers..
— Su Dharmapala Voted Yes & #AI Chick (@SuDharmapala) March 5, 2022
as I was saying...
seriously, how can the whole media machine ignore it?
even if you think there is nothing there, given fj's notariety re. john barilaro... it's worthy of a mention or a giggle... even if that giggle is at fj's pending doom...
sypkan wrote:seriously, how can the whole media machine ignore it?
even if you think there is nothing there, given fj's notariety re. john barilaro... it's worthy of a mention or a giggle... even if that giggle is at fj's pending doom...
Actually it is really quite scary that media run such a protection racket for the LNP. Reminds me of when it was pretty common knowledge (Independent Australia and other outlets ran a number of stories) that the Beetroot wasn't being such a great family man, but story was ignored/ buried until after the election. Party of family values. Pfft.
Fark we need a proper ICAC ..
if it was fake news,u'd think they'd be nailing jordies ass to a cross right now for defamation.
I'm gonna temporarily abstain on judgement about Speers as the FJ vid only came out on Friday and the ABC would need to independently verify all the accusations before anything gets mentioned - even slyly alluded to.
If after a week or so nothing gets mentioned I'll assume the position...
I haven't watched this video everyone talks about, is it still available? I can't find it.
On MSM, I agree there is a reporting gap and they have a lot to answer for but to be honest, this guy says all sorts of stuff in his videos and it needs to be properly checked before going mainstream. I find it hard to distinguish between general ranting, hyperbole, and accusations. I need to watch his videos a few times to actually understand what he's trying to say.
Maybe one of the reasons why I love reading and generally avoid youtube videos.
Here it is, Flollo:
Usual LNP rorts the first half, devolves into something more sordid from the 13:00 min mark onwards.
Further to the above: Despite the severity of the accusations he still does the smarminess and silly voices, which I'm not sure what to make of. Does it detract from the work, or does it show he doesn't take himself too seriously..?
At any rate, and whatever you think about him, it's worth paying attention to what's happening as this is the new frontier of journalism, and he's out there on his own.
"We believe these cases go to the heart of a citizen's right to challenge, investigate and criticise politicians." - Xenophon Davis (who's representing FJ)
Yeah. I guess he see himself as a comedian too. You can see why some people might think he's just a shit stirrer. Pretty gutsy. Re Insiders, I guess Speers thought national security was more important with his limited time interviewing Dutton.
I watched the video and jeez there is a lot to process. I will need to watch it again to go through more details. Here are my first impressions:
1) ABC/Speers should not be blamed for not pushing Dutton in the interview. It is unrealistic to expect them to properly prepare in such a short timeframe. ABC is not a tabloid to jump onto random stuff on youtube and I agree with that. However, there are many tabloids who love reporting from social media and the question is why haven't they?
2) I am very curious about the AFD involvement. From their website:
"The AFP established the Fraud and Anti-Corruption (FAC) business area under the Crime Program in February 2013. The FAC business area enhances the AFP response to serious and complex fraud against the Commonwealth, corruption by Australian Government employees, foreign bribery and complex identity crime involving the manufacture and abuse of credentials."
So, they are the ones who need to investigate corruption. I know people are calling for ICAC (we obviously need them to keep AFD accountable as well as others) but we already have legal mechanisms to pursue these allegations. The question is why haven't they?
3) Offshore refugee centers and schemes around them need a thorough investigation. Huge amounts of money were spent. Even if it all ends up being legal someone should get sacked for not pursuing cheaper options. This story is not new though, it's been around and there are people fighting for it, Craig Foster comes to mind.
There's more in my head but I would need to consolidate it and keep pausing his video to review the evidence he's providing.
True that
Your not nice are you Facto….a bit sick I think….but that’s probably Morrison’s fault too.
Says the guy that thinks if you’re not a Christian you’re going to burn in hell.
Says the guy that wants a legal right to discriminate against gay people and the like.
Real nice guy
stunet wrote:I'm gonna temporarily abstain on judgement about Speers as the FJ vid only came out on Friday and the ABC would need to independently verify all the accusations before anything gets mentioned - even slyly alluded to.
If after a week or so nothing gets mentioned I'll assume the position...
Ok fair call leaving it a week before judgement if that is the actual case with media. The cynic in me does not believe this to be so, as was highlighted when it was common knowledge that Joyce had been having an affair and got his staffer pregnant. This was conveniently left out of any news stories in msm although was common knowledge by all the Canberra press gallery before last election.
Would have this happened if it was a Labor politician, especially one who had campaigned in the past on traditional family values??
A journalist could have least asked the question to Dutton; are you aware of the video recently released by FJ, and would you like to comment?
I hope I am wrong but reckon the whole thing will be ignored. I do question however why Green, Labor or other politicians such as Lambie are not mentioning it.
Regarding his dilevery style; I kind of like his smart arse abrasive attitude, but can understand others not liking. That however does not take away the seriousness of his videos and the corruption they highlight, especially his latest, his Bruz series and highlighting what scum bag Palmer is.
Really this should be the job of so called msm journalists, but is not happening. Unfortunately the ABC seems too timid to touch things now after their Four Corners exposy of Porter etc.
Still waiting to know what PM actually knew about the alleged rape next to his office.
Seems there is a pattern here of LNP pollies being let off hook.
Seeds, I don’t comment on hell because I don’t know about it and I don’t care what homosexuals do as long as they don’t enforce their ideology on Christian schools and people etc like Alan Joyce did.. Freedom of choice in this country is something to consider deeply when the next election comes around and something our Anzac fathers died for…to each their own.
You said you were a preacher. Don’t know about hell? Hmm confusing.
I don’t think Alan Joyce was pushing any ideology onto anyone. From what I read he was saying religious freedom shouldn’t have detrimental effects on LBGTQ persons.
And it’s obvious from your silly response to CBG you’re voting for Scotty’s team with his 2IC the beetroot. Two of the most conflicted Christians. At least Brutus called Scotty out for not passing the Jesus test
Optimist wrote:Seeds, I don’t comment on hell because I don’t know about it and I don’t care what homosexuals do as long as they don’t enforce their ideology on Christian schools and people etc like Alan Joyce did.. Freedom of choice in this country is something to consider deeply when the next election comes around and something our Anzac fathers died for…to each their own.
Homosexuals enforcing their ideology? You do realise being gay isn’t a belief right?
You think a homosexual is going to force their believes onto you and turn you gay? Lol
As Morgan Freeman said: you’re not homophobic, you’re not scared of gay people. You’re just an asshole
True that Burliegh!!!
Now go and get the jab hahahaha only joking
Optimist wrote:Seeds, I don’t comment on hell because I don’t know about it and I don’t care what homosexuals do as long as they don’t enforce their ideology on Christian schools and people etc like Alan Joyce did.. Freedom of choice in this country is something to consider deeply when the next election comes around and something our Anzac fathers died for…to each their own.
I guess the irony is missed , Optimist.
….do as long as they don’t enforce their ideology…
burleigh wrote:Homosexuals enforcing their ideology? You do realise being gay isn’t a belief right?
You think a homosexual is going to force their believes onto you and turn you gay? Lol
As Morgan Freeman said: you’re not homophobic, you’re not scared of gay people. You’re just an asshole
No Burleigh being gay isn't a belief as you so correctly pointed out!!! It's an ideology. Gay people know and believe they are gay. The proof of this is in the way they choose to live there lives, who to love and how to interact with other non gay people. It's a collective set of rules of how gay people live so to speak.
Now a belief is more of an airy fairy type of idea that sort of lacks evidence to support this idea (or belief). A bit like religion or conspiracy theorists. Make sense??
Bollocks. I’m heterosexual it just is. Homosexual. It just is. Not a belief or an ideology.
garyg1412 wrote:burleigh wrote:Homosexuals enforcing their ideology? You do realise being gay isn’t a belief right?
You think a homosexual is going to force their believes onto you and turn you gay? Lol
As Morgan Freeman said: you’re not homophobic, you’re not scared of gay people. You’re just an asshole
No Burleigh being gay isn't a belief as you so correctly pointed out!!! It's an ideology. Gay people know and believe they are gay. The proof of this is in the way they choose to live there lives, who to love and how to interact with other non gay people. It's a collective set of rules of how gay people live so to speak.
Now a belief is more of an airy fairy type of idea that sort of lacks evidence to support this idea (or belief). A bit like religion or conspiracy theorists. Make sense??
To say this you must believe you are superior to a homosexual human, this is simply not true. We are all equal.
I’ll believe what I want to believe because I’m a free man. I’ll let others do likewise. I’ll never enforce my views on anyone and I would expect likewise. I like the ancient biblical view rather than the modern one. I’m not scared of gays as my brother is one and we are good friends. He understands my beliefs and lifestyle and I his. I am also friends with his boyfriend who used to work in parliament. They like to party those lads. We agree to disagree unlike you fascist types. He would never try and impose gay teachers in a Christian school because he’s smart enough to know that wouldn’t work out. Alan Joyce destroyed a great footballers career after reading his private Facebook at the same time he was selling Qantas catering to the Arab Emirates people who kill gays….it’s all about freedom …but you don’t seem to understand that….and regarding voting…who said I’m voting for Morrison?… I’ll reserve my vote for the day and decide after all the cards are on the table then I will pick my choice for the best out of the ordinary bunch for Australia …again my free choice.
Your right about having an ordinary bunch to choose from.
I cant believe anyone in their right mind would choose to be a politician, with all the shit they throw at each other and getting made fun of by comedians etc. No way id do it.I guess there are benefits to it but id rather be a janitor in a school or something.
Hahaha true that
groundswell wrote:I cant believe anyone in their right mind would choose to be a politician, with all the shit they throw at each other and getting made fun of by comedians etc. No way id do it.I guess there are benefits to it but id rather be a janitor in a school or something.
I would never do it. Terrible job. Basically, you and your whole family have to live with incredible levels of scrutiny and a total lack of privacy. Unless you are Xi or Putin who can squash anyone. We are so keen to criticize our own and idolise others. However, I cannot really see Putin or Xi confronted live on air or ridiculed through insane memes etc.
Yeah true about Putin and Xi, havent seen anything about them on south park or similar and cant imagine that anything written about them would be funny.
facto's written some funny stuff about xi...
hilarious
Now that cracked me up Udo. lol
Sportsbet
ALP $1.27
LNP $3.60
GuySmiley wrote:Sportsbet
ALP $1.27
LNP $3.60
That is super odds..easy money to make. The ALP will lose.
Roadkill wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Sportsbet
ALP $1.27
LNP $3.60That is super odds..easy money to make. The ALP will lose.
What's big clive paying? haha
garyg1412 wrote:burleigh wrote:Homosexuals enforcing their ideology? You do realise being gay isn’t a belief right?
You think a homosexual is going to force their believes onto you and turn you gay? Lol
As Morgan Freeman said: you’re not homophobic, you’re not scared of gay people. You’re just an asshole
No Burleigh being gay isn't a belief as you so correctly pointed out!!! It's an ideology. Gay people know and believe they are gay. The proof of this is in the way they choose to live there lives, who to love and how to interact with other non gay people. It's a collective set of rules of how gay people live so to speak.
Now a belief is more of an airy fairy type of idea that sort of lacks evidence to support this idea (or belief). A bit like religion or conspiracy theorists. Make sense??
Is heterosexuality an ideology? Do heterosexuals know and believe they are heterosexual?
Optimist wrote:I’ll believe what I want to believe because I’m a free man. I’ll let others do likewise. I’ll never enforce my views on anyone and I would expect likewise. I like the ancient biblical view rather than the modern one. I’m not scared of gays as my brother is one and we are good friends. He understands my beliefs and lifestyle and I his. I am also friends with his boyfriend who used to work in parliament. They like to party those lads. We agree to disagree unlike you fascist types. He would never try and impose gay teachers in a Christian school because he’s smart enough to know that wouldn’t work out. Alan Joyce destroyed a great footballers career after reading his private Facebook at the same time he was selling Qantas catering to the Arab Emirates people who kill gays….it’s all about freedom …but you don’t seem to understand that….and regarding voting…who said I’m voting for Morrison?… I’ll reserve my vote for the day and decide after all the cards are on the table then I will pick my choice for the best out of the ordinary bunch for Australia …again my free choice.
Being indoctrinated isn’t being free.
GuySmiley wrote:Sportsbet
ALP $1.27
LNP $3.60
Someone the other day said last election LNP were paying about $7.00 we know how that went.
Even if ALP get in they are cooked long term a dying party here and in the UK.
Roadkill wrote:garyg1412 wrote:burleigh wrote:Homosexuals enforcing their ideology? You do realise being gay isn’t a belief right?
You think a homosexual is going to force their believes onto you and turn you gay? Lol
As Morgan Freeman said: you’re not homophobic, you’re not scared of gay people. You’re just an asshole
No Burleigh being gay isn't a belief as you so correctly pointed out!!! It's an ideology. Gay people know and believe they are gay. The proof of this is in the way they choose to live there lives, who to love and how to interact with other non gay people. It's a collective set of rules of how gay people live so to speak.
Now a belief is more of an airy fairy type of idea that sort of lacks evidence to support this idea (or belief). A bit like religion or conspiracy theorists. Make sense??Is heterosexuality an ideology? Do heterosexuals know and believe they are heterosexual?
I believe its like birds learning to fly or even eat worms...its all instinct and genetics.
But i also believe even hetero sexual men or women can have a slight homo impulse occasionally thats why so many homophobes exist, its fear of that impulse to be gay.
Hahaha that’s hilarious. Never did watch that movie. Will now.
The movie is very funny.
The Gayby section is gold too.
zenagain wrote:The movie is very funny.
The Gayby section is gold too.
Such a classic film....
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Sportsbet
ALP $1.27
LNP $3.60Someone the other day said last election LNP were paying about $7.00 we know how that went.
Even if ALP get in they are cooked long term a dying party here and in the UK.
Both parties are losing voters, not sure that you can be so sure that the ALP are dying.
As for the odds last election, the average was about $1.22 Labour to $4.00 Coalition a week out from the election.
https://www.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/what-the-betting-markets-te...
So yes the bookies can be wrong but they dont like losing money either. Cant see them making the same mistake twice.
When you say "we know how that went", it seems you forget that the Coalition only have a 1 seat majority. They didnt romp home. Plenty of slim marginals which could have gone either way.
The way things are panning out up north, and now in metro Sydney, could easily see a big swing against the bloke who doesnt hold a hose (or offer help it seems). We will wait and see I guess.
Reckon will put $100 on LNP... If they lose will celebrate losing money, if win will have some coin to buy some good quality booze to cry into...
Govt is formed by majority in House of Reps.
Currently LNP +1 seat but known electoral redistributions favour ALP a minimum of +2 seats.
With the LNP being on the nose everywhere except maybe in Tas and SA can’t see a LNP win but way more probable a big swing against.
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