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Hiccups, I quite enjoy your work however when your onto a good thing stick with it. Your previous avatar was brilliantly mesmerizing.....
Haha. I may go back Rabs. Just on a Kenny Everett kick atm.
Hey Hiccups yes you got it it’s the censorship that worries me because it’s a tool of the authoritarian. You could be right about the story being a non story, or as Orwell would say, an anti story.
Why would it be censored and suppressed if it’s a nothing story though. That doesn’t add up to me, I know next to nothing about it though, and I agree with you about all the intelligence agencies being worthy of the highest level scepticism possible. They were put off side with Trump when the James Comey thing happened though, I definitely wouldn’t be confident that they, FBI etc, want Trump over Biden. Quite the contrary but that’s just my opinion and I am not an expert on that stuff.
For me it’s not a case of a no media cover because the story had no merit and was bogus. The DNC media would surely have licked it up like all the other BS they report. It’s a case of a censored story. Why is it censored? That is what I would like to know.
Last thing.... the fact Glen Greenwald’s was on Tucker doesn’t prove it as FOX news right wing narrative to me considering there would not be another news program that would go near it because of their party affiliations. FOX is the only TV outlet Glen could go on to tell his story which, unlike the Hunter Biden story, is bulletproof IMO. For the record I always thought the HB story was just a Trump, Giuliani, Bannon chunk of BS, until the recent developments started getting censored. That’s when my alarm started ringing.
Nice post mate I reckon we probably would agree on far more than we would disagree on.
Yeah RabbitI that face of Hiccups was freaky In a truly silence of the lambs kinda way. You drink Chianti Hiccups?
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US Post Polling Day - End Vote Counting by Date / State (credit to NCSL)
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3rd Nov { Polling Day }
(Noon) Alabama
(5 pm) New Hampshire
(Close) Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, Wisconsin, Wyoming.
4th Nov
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5th Nov
New Jersey
6th Nov
California, Kansas, North Carolina, Virginia
8th Nov
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9th Nov (Following Monday Rule)
Iowa
10th Nov
Columbia, Nevada, New York,
13th Nov or (* 5 business Days)
Alaska, *Mississippi, Ohio
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Illinois, Utah
(Open) Nov
Maryland, Washington
2020 Covid Postal Voting
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Early_voting_US_Stat...
*2016 Largest Postal Vote States
8.5m California /3.3m Washington /2.8m Colorado + Florida / 2m Arizona + Oregon
*2016 Postal Ballot Rejection by State & Race...credit to Wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_voting_in_the_United_States
re: (Georgia + Florida examples apply to Reservations & / or Project Cities).
Apply standard Racial Profiling % to each of the State's segregated communities.
tbb: Sorry! Only these States are given as examples...(re: Wiki List)
Crew are smarter than most to form a general overview...of what's going on here.
Add % as shown = (#1) 40% > (#27) 15% = US avg. Racial Rejected Postal Ballots
eg:
(#1) 6% Georgia + 14% (Hispanic / Black ) +20% ( Young Indian +Asian / Pac )
(#2) 6% Arkansas > % > %
(#3) 6% New York > % > %
(#4) 6% Kentucky > % > %
(#5) 4% Louisiana > % > %
(#27) 1% [ USA ] > 5% > 10% = (15%) ( Base US Racial Profiling Vote Rejection )
(#34) 1% Florida > 5% Hispanic + Blacks > 9% Indian (Reservations) + Asia / Pac'.
As said...the profiling is an example that varies by state Housing.
All up to date on what level of Postal Vote Rejection & by which state & race.
tbb has tipped off 150m False Positive Covid Tests to further quarantine by race.
You can also rig the Football with the False Positives...to make a fortune!
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/16/world/covid-coronavirus#false-po...
Postal Vote Racial Profiling combines with False Positive quarantine to deny Voting in Booth.
Also note, that one can't leave isolation to cast a postal vote.
Just recapping on current pre Election ramping of US Covid Testing...
False Negatives are for Herd Immunity, Smashing Borders & Opening Airports!
False Positives are for Racial Cleansing of Vote Booths & Fixing Sports Matches!
Considering you can now own a soul for $5...Trump reckons that's great value!
Pretty sure the crew are onto that by now! (Please! No more conspiracies! Shh!)
See wiki for complete John West list...tbb thought it was too bleak to list the lot!
That was actually a digitally altered image of my own foul head.
TBB why are the postal votes getting rejected? Or what is the reason they quote for rejecting them?
WOW Covid just keeps getting better all the time. You try to be optimistic about humanity, then you read some stuff that makes the hermit life look pretty good. Hasn’t exactly brought us all together has it, when scum use it as a weapon to twist things to their advantage.
"That was actually a digitally altered image of my own foul head."
Haha! It was pretty unique alright.....
I feel really sorry for the honest, hardworking people of the US and I hope that after the election, somehow, they forget their differences and embrace what they share - an amazing country with an inspirational vision, described so well in their Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Even though they never achieved its lofty goals they had moved towards them, sadly ATM they seem to be moving away from them.
“We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by the Creator, with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”
This is a snippet from a great podcast. Eric Weinstein and His brother Bret Weinstein are amazing to listen to if you are interested in the state of things in the US. It’s worth a listen IMO. Lex Fridman is equally impressive. All these names listed have their own podcasts and all are worth tuning into.
Is the US headed towards civil war?
"JQ - I refuse to accept your defeatist attitude and I also refuse to accept your position that the Australian public is so entirely gullible that , in this day of diverse media outlets AKA the internet, there is no way for a rational vision for Australia’s future to be put forward by the ALP."
hear bloody hear to that!!!
"Can you write a single post without getting insultingly personal ?
Go compare your posts with the other posts on this page and spot the difference. You pretty much destroy any chance of a worthwhile conversation."
and hear hear tto that too!
aside from being void of context, nuance, and any creative thought or intelligence, his posts are just bloody toxic, and only serve one purpose, to shut conversation down
and sadly monorail doesn't even realise what he's doing...
at least facto understands the toxicity he spreads
I think...
good convo from stunet and blowin re. neoliberalism, but like jq stunet, you're just way too bloody defeatist
pretty clear most agree the problem is oz went too much all in down this path. yes there were some good years there for a while, but do we really need to continue to 'sell the farm' (yet again...) when its so blatently obvious where all this is heading?
and tbh, to continue to sell our children's futures for 'a few good years' because we're too entrenched in some form of subconscious self sabotage is way way too defeatist for my liking. defeatist and selfish, to our children...
labor and the left really don't need to change much to gain back a solid base of voters. they're incredibly stubborn to change, but it really wouldn't take that much
and it would start by redeeming themselves for throwing the lower working classes to the wolves. they thought it was a good bet. to ignore traditional voters, and concentrate on minorities and aspirationals, in their envisioned unbeatable rainbow alliance. no doubt they calculated the collaroral damage would be low, because hey, where else are the working class going to go?
well, we've seen the results of that...
you push people away long enough, funny enough they leave...
but it really wouldn't take much to get them back, or wouldn't have... it may actually be too late now...
but at the core of getting them back is to quell the toxicity that has engulfed certain parts of the left. quit the outrage industry, quell the toxicity, quell the sanctimony, cut the condescending tendencies, and let the purveyors of such behaviours suck it up for a while, because hey, where else are they going to go?
that is happening now to a certain degree, but frankly, clearly some people just didn't get the memo...
interesting little snippet sickaz, I have no idea who this weinstein guy is, but seen him getting around a bit, I like his style
no idea about other guy either, but I feel for him, that man is carrying some weight...
very pertinent last couple of minutes. I don't think the democrats could possibly have found a better example of privelage and the need to cut dead wood than their man, ...joe biden...
it really is beyond belief they have the old white guy, from 'the top' of the bottom of his class, a serial liar, a segregationist, a wishy washy career politician, that'll go anywhere the wind takes him, and do whatever it takes, to fulfill his litany of bad judgements agenda centred around empowering himself
weinstein said the power needs to be taken away, and suggested we are already in a revolution. that is plain to see for me the way things are unfolding
when trump got in last time I said this is a revolution of sorts, a bloodless one (relatively, at that time). and that the left don't like to think they missed the biggest revolution of their lifetime, but they did. we are in a huge challenge to the current power structure atm, be it successful or not...
it could be the biggest bloodless challenge to the current power structure ever. or it could end in civil war...
to avoid the latter, the left needs to realise they've been hoodwinked. lulled into a false sense of security. they've been tricked into doing the bidding of billionaires. they've become the playthings of social media, they've been eased into a culture of censorship through academia. and they've been corrupted and compromised through the privatisation of social causes, thanks to the neoliberal model. a model that makes slave labour companies like nike palatable if they throw a few shillings to causes like blm
the whole system has been corrupted. everything, bought up and compromised by the clinton cash model...
unless the 'dirtbag left' and the woke folk can find a common enemy, I fear some version of a civil war is inevitable ...unfortunately...
and unnecessarily...
Have to feel for shop owners in USA, they have already been hit this year with Covid and 1 billion in damages and losses from BLB riots & looting, and now many are getting ready boarding up shops for more riots & looting.
Nah, not defeatist, Sypkan, realist. Seems you guys have an extremely limited appreciation for how much Australia has changed in the last two decades. Simply throwing up ideas of the past and expecting them to work today is a fools errand.
I think JQ was onto something when he said you guys propose these ideas more to create villains. I mean, politics is messy, it's a game of compromise, especially now that Australia is a radically diverse nation, the voter that wants a major party to represent their will (and only their will) to a tee falls for the 'perfect is the enemy of good' trap.
It may surprise you to know that I would like Australia to take the course that Blowin proposes, but I disagree with his method.
The only way a society drastically changes course is through bloody revolution. Every other way is slow and frustrating, sometimes two steps forward for one back, it shifts sideways, assumes false priorities, takes missteps along the way, but change from within requires a consensus that's continually tested, so it's creeping and inefficient, yet that's the way it has to be if a diverse group of people want to move forward together.
Unless, that is, you think America is proving a good model to adopt...
At the last election, I didn't agree with much of what Labor campaigned on, but I recognised it as a generational platform, the kind that, unless it was followed up, we're unlikely to see ever again.
And I'm absolutely adamant of that now: Australia will never again see a major party attempt to redress inequality and slow the effects of neoliberalism like Labor did in 2019.
Nothing anyone can say could convince me of that. That was the last-minute shot....and it missed. Hooter's gone, thank you very much.
After the last election I joined the local Labor party and attended a few nights, read lots of election breakdowns and the various soul-searching treatises from Labor identities, some of them utterly brutal.
I tend to think that Labor's influence, at the national level, is now too weak to ever get into power on its own. Labor's best bet is to ditch its major party standing, hold onto some ideologies and hopefully retain enough voters (a bigger gamble than it sounds), and then pitch for a unity ticket with another minor party.
But from here to the middle-distance it's LNP all the way, unfortunately. And if people keep expecting the political party they vote for to match their needs entirely then it's LNP until way over the horizon.
Some serious food for thought there Stu, whether one agrees or disagrees with your various points.
Ditching major party status and looking for a coalition is a suggestion I haven't heard before, and is especially telling from someone reasonably close to the action.
I was talking to a young kid the other day, he was about 18 and had a healthy interest in politics. It was his belief that an elected party should essentially have free rein of legislation, without hinderance, so the electorate can see what they really stand for.
I disagreed strongly with his idea (Senate blah blah) but maybe we're going to get a version of his proposal anyway - all the way with the LNP.
As for "Australia will never again see a major party attempt to redress inequality and slow the effects of neoliberalism like Labor did in 2019", I think they might, the just won't be so upfront before an election.
I think it's the frank discussion before the election (and more broadly) that's been shot to shit.
Maybe get elected then tell the people what they want.
Yep, unlikely though for a long time.
In what way were the ALP treatises brutal ?
Brutally honest or brutally wide of the mark ?
Was your perspective represented by many leaders attended the meetings ?
Did you raise your voice to contribute ?
I don't think its about villians at all, its about offering a glimmer of hope. and the more of the same (huge migration, more privatisation) with a large dash of ip offered at the last election was not a glimmer of hope!
...it was a proposal full of the ridiculous...
"At the last election, I didn't agree with much of what Labor campaigned on, but I recognised it as a generational platform, the kind that, unless it was followed up, we're unlikely to see ever again."
I just can't see this, I know we've been over it before, and don't wish to go back there, but it does my head in that some of you think their offerings were so significant. there was some good stuff in there (though much of it an election too late!), but everything they offered would have been eaten up and more, by the other stuff they offered...
"I tend to think that Labor's influence, at the national level, is now too weak to ever get into power on its own. Labor's best bet is to ditch its major party standing, hold onto some ideologies and hopefully retain enough voters (a bigger gamble than it sounds), and then pitch for a unity ticket with another minor party."
geez, that's bleak, not disagreeing, but surprised you went there and see it as so done and dusted...
"But from here to the middle-distance it's LNP all the way, unfortunately. And if people keep expecting the political party they vote for to match their needs entirely then it's LNP until way over the horizon."
I agree, in a way...
but shit, Im not willing to accept that, please please not 12- 15 years of scomo and lnp!!!
Disagree Syppo, modern popular discourse is predicated on creating villains, us and them. You see this in the mainstream media, social media and personal interactions, at least around where I live and I don't expect it's any different elsewhere.
And I think Labor were actually offering a change but for me, it was too late considering their track record.
Yeah I think it's bleak times ahead politically, and also for renters and potential home owners who are getting shunted out to fuck-fuck-whoop-whoop because of decades of neoliberal policies.
American-style haves and have nots and if you're "falling behind" it's nobodies fault but yours.
@Blowin,
Brutally honest. Not kidding themselves why they lost. But they're snookered too.
There's the belief that Labor has to "back the workers", but when you get past the platitude it's hard to pinpoint what that means in a de-unionised and diverse, 24/7 work economy, and also how changes could be structured to benefit workers without detriment to business, keeping in mind how the employer/employee ratio has changed over the years, the explosion of sole traders and micro-business etc. It's possible but it's extremely messy and slow, and also easily argued against by shock jocks who jump on the scary words and yell them at their listeners. That route already has many bodies buried by the roadside.
Cutting immigration is an external measure, but that'd mean chasing tax dollars from elsewhere in the economy to support an aging population, and the LNP - aided by Murdoch - are deadly effective in their "Labor wants to tax everything" campaigning. They'd be signing their own death warrant. Labor would die on their feet, and you might think that's a good thing, an honourable death etc., but the LNP would have no credible opposition anytime in the near future.
Similarly, any ideas around class action are enthusiastically jumped on by right-leaning journos and social media twits who wouldn't know Karl from Richard yet are quick to accuse Labor of Marxism and make them look like a throwback to another century. Again, it's possible but it requires long and persuasive debate, and it gives the opposition the easiest of tasks: Just yell "politics of envy" - job done!
Felt like my views were represented. Never piped up and probably wouldn't. Was only curious how it all worked after the results of May 2019.
"Wouldn't know Karl from Richard"
Love it.
no doubt villians are created out there in media land andym, but I think it's a long bow to say that's what me and blowin are doing and looking for
yes the media narrative is all 'looney left' and 'leftards' etc. but that doesn't mean me and blowin are looking for villians just for criticising the left
I think you can agree, the left has developed some serious shortcomings for themselves across the board of late. some people of the left take any criticism of their shortcomings incredibly personally, and just assume if you are not with the left on every one of their petty causes you are a 'RWNJ' and against them
sorry, but this thinking is so dumb its ridiculous, we see it on here constantly, some are too thick to see the nuance, but others are so partisan and zealoty they just cannot take any critical thought at all
I think this is a huge problem for the left, they've created so many wedge issues for themselves catering to whims, they cannot possibly cater for any semblance of a broad coalition. fuck even jonathon freedland hinted at it in one of blindboy's articles
criticism does not make someone the enemy, yet the left have gone all rabid with this 'you're either with us or against us' mentality
I hate to go all jordan peterson, but he suggests that people, politics, and groups, need to call out their crazy women rather than indulge them. I know that's gendered language, and jordan won't win me any friends, but this is sooooo true for the left, they seem to have an over abundance of crazy women and are willing to indulge them at every opportunity
you and freeride admitted as much the other day about that guadian article and the outrage industry
sure give crazy women a voice, but that voice should not have the power to silence all others
It's not that bleak for Labor.
The corrupt, divided, and incompetent LNP only got back in on the back of Murdoch, Hanson and Palmer.
Palmer and Hanson are politically gone. People have worked out they are shonks.
The LNP have got so much more corrupt during covid and people are fucking sick of it. Labor doesn't have to do much to win next time around. They could start with three very simple concepts. Provide genuine retraining opportunities, so blue colour workers have a future in a rapidly changing world. Introduce serious criminal penalties (including jail time) for wage theft. And crack down on franchisors screwing franchisees. (Yes even to the point of having a Minister for franchisees.)
After getting back in, Labor could introduce an ICAC that has the power to investigate historical corruption, and they could send a bunch of LNP bums to prison and expose the full horror of their crooked ways.
Labor could easily govern for the next decade, especially because the power of Murdoch is declining.
thick, bias, void of nuance
hanson ain't goin anywhere
Pauline got smoked on Saturday Skypan. Labor's outlook is not so bleak. Very popular Vic. and Qld. State governments.
Totally disagree that I’m looking for villains.
I just want representation in modern Australian politics. It’s not that hard.
It seems the main argument against reformation of the ALP is that they won’t be able to communicate their message adequately whilst the evil Murdoch empire undermines everything they say. I’m afraid I don’t swallow this line. They just need to get creative and a bit more resilient than collapsing into a fit of vapours when Rupert raises an eyebrow .
Friendly Jordies has a subscription of over 500K within a couple of years of getting political. What other possible avenues may arise given half a chance ? The ALP are already established. They already have a voter base willing them to do something, ANYTHING substantial to stem the tide of neoliberalism.
They need to :
1/ Find a leader with presence and leadership abilities. Not the androgynous rabble they currently favour. Man or woman doesn’t matter just someone with charisma. The Empty Chair Albanese is the first thing that needs to hit the pavement.
2/ Address the taxation of multinationals. This will not be popular with multinationals and will lead to a situation where donors drop Labor like a hot pie. Good. Just like the DNC , the donors are a liability not a strength. They bastardise the party’s integrity and its electability.
3/ Address the elephant in the room which is the Big Australia shitfight.
Convey its rejection in terms people understand. Explain the plain fact that if we care to show any custodianship towards the country we live on then the endless expansion of humans into its limited capacity will just push it evermore into ruin.
Explain how endless supply of labour into the labour market means that no one ever experiences security of work or remuneration commensurate with a living wage at the middle to lower tiers of society. Explain that the reason 7/11 can exploit workers is because continuous mass immigration means there will always be ten workers queuing up for the $2.30 an hour that someone else rejects due to too many workers competing for too few jobs.
4/ Unite multicultural Australia. At least make steps toward recreating a society instead of the economic zone we all exist in now. People want to feel included, they want to be part of a community. Make Australia the tribe. Immigrants come to this country wanting to be a part of Australia let’s provide an idea of who we are and who we want to become. We need to focus on unifying the people.
ALP just needs to be bold. That meeting you attended should be taken to a public location during the daytime. Treat the reformation like an election campaign. Be like Trump and his election rallies. Set up stalls at markets. Talking on soapboxes . Whatever it takes. Use the internet in bold ways and this will generate its own momentum. Be creative and have a go for a start.
Is anyone surprised that QLD government got up again ?
I’m not privy to QLD state politics but if I was getting free government money , the sun is shining, the border is closed to the pestilential hordes from down South and COVID is something that happens somewhere else I’d vote for more of the same too.
Same as WA . The population was safe without being locked in their houses as a result of massive government fuck ups. Life was good = voting for the crew who made it happen.
I’d be surprised if Gladys doesn’t get in for the same reason even though she’s overseen enough corruption and scandal to kill a brown dog.
she still ain't goin anywhere
she's been smashed a heap of times
labor governments seem fine at a state level, well except for andrew's selling his soul, but that's melbourne's issue..
federal labor just goes from bad to worse with shorten to albo...
don't know how that's even possible, ...so that's an achievement in itself I guess...
"Is anyone surprised that QLD government got up again ?
I’m not privy to QLD state politics but if I was getting free government money , the sun is shining, the border is closed to the pestilential hordes from down South and COVID is something that happens somewhere else I’d vote for more of the same too.
Same as WA . The population was safe without being locked in their houses as a result of massive government fuck ups. Life was good = voting for the crew who made it happen.
I’d be surprised if Gladys doesn’t get in for the same reason even though she’s overseen enough corruption and scandal to kill a brown dog."
exactly!
that's an analysis with a little objectivity and nuance
and spot on re. federal ALP
they're currently scared of their own shadow, aside from being no way to live, it just makes them look pathetic and void of any hope, principle or vision
the ground is there for the taking!
like the US democrats, they've backed themselves so far into a corner it's all darkness, the only way out is to throw all caution to the wind and release themselves from their psychological hell
speaking of hope...
https://mobile.twitter.com/omriceren/status/1322997874658054144
now that's a development!
Jesus skypan.
"I hate to go all jordan peterson, but he suggests that people, politics, and groups, need to call out their crazy women rather than indulge them. I know that's gendered language, and jordan won't win me any friends, but this is sooooo true for the left, they seem to have an over abundance of crazy women and are willing to indulge them at every opportunity"
= Jordan Peterson is crazy and heavily indulged, but because he's a right wing, white, male, boomer, that's allowed.
dunno what you are on about hiccups, so you're gonna have to explain
I like sraight language mate, you call it what you want, I call this unhealthy...
https://m.
in so many ways
Crazy cat ladies actually run the world. It's the conspiracy none of you dare admit...
What's the point of that random video skypan? There's crazy idiots everywhere, right, left, black, white, men, women. Idiocy does not discriminate. You said "I hate to go all jordan peterson", which suggests to me that you know he's a fool, yet because he's not a woman he can be as crazy as he likes. The whole wOmEn ArE cRaZy thing is such a BS misogynist trope.
there is so much in that video hiccups, soooo much!
its not... "The whole wOmEn ArE cRaZy thing "
its some women are crazy
just like some men are crazy, it's humans
it's human
Yeah. I just said there's crazy people everywhere, but you only mention women. Specifically women who don't align with your political opinions because yer a misogynist.
"she still ain't goin anywhere
she's been smashed a heap of times"
100% One nation/Pauline's popularity is always up and down just depends on the issues around at the time, if what happened in Vic happened in QLD it would be completely different, one nation vote would be super high.
Overall @ 12:28 Blowin summed the whole thing up perfectly.
Why make changes when they aren't needed, especially when people in other states are just thinking thank fark we aren't Victoria.
There's been plenty of times over the years when Pauline's popularity has been up I've thought "Thank fark I'm not in Queensland."
Hanson is gone, the only thing that could resurrect her political career is a DD election and a shit load of luck.
Too many scandals, too much stupidity, and too few results. After a decade in parliament there's literally nothing that women could point to and say "I did that, and it improved the lives of Australians".
Voters have also worked out that if Hanson got here way re covid 19, the consequences would have been lethal.
Apart from getting stuck on a rock she was told not to climb, what exactly has that fucking idiot achieved? She doesn't solve problems, she doesn't create opportunities, she just breeds (and harvests) poor white trash resentment.
She achieved getting me to my first political demonstration in 1997, aged 17. Thanks Pauline.
Well played Hiccups. Nice link.
I am just glad that the ALP is not an elitist institution like the US Dems. At least they have a chance of gaining the trust of the common man and balancing out the seesaw.
Some of the more partisan posts on here give me the impression that make me wonder if the people who wrote them consider that the left to right political spectrum is like the ying and the yang, each side balancing out the other and each side with elements of the other within it. Surely for the political left/right conflict to best serve the people, the fulcrum of the seesaw needs to be as close to dead in the middle as possible.
If you are a member of a political party or always vote for the same end of the spectrum I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
you didn't explain yourself re. jordan hiccups
and, geez the woman at work love me for being such an ugly mysoginist, not fabio style thing love me, but you know, genuine love me for being me, they tell me, so your petty little name calling exercises mean absolutely nothing to me, sorry
and just so you know, it's largely 'women's work' that this big ugly brute of a mysoginist does... hence all the women...
definitely no fabio thing
for better or worse...
"and, geez the woman at work love me for being such an ugly mysoginist (sic),"
wow. Does that mean the gay bloke loves you too because you call him a faggot?
Just between you and me sypkan, women tend not to enjoy "ugly misogyny", especially at work.
I don't call him faggot, but he does love me
and just between you and me, most of the women at work hate all the shit you carry on about
they think it's all kind of simplistic and dumb, and even dangerous, ...funnily enough...
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank