The United States(!) of A
VL show me a GOP state that allows abortions up to and including when the woman is dilating at full term.
If a woman has reached 40 weeks pregnant how could it be of any benefit to her to mental health to kill the baby? Anyway the law allows it which is disgusting. The video is DNC delegate Tran answering questions about her amendments to the abortion laws of VA. And she admits that her bill would allow the termination of an otherwise viable baby at the point of the mother dilating.
You are not seriously defending this are you, you thinks it’s ok for ONE unspecialised doctor to determine that a viable child, about to be born, can be murdered because if for some reason the baby was born her mental health might suffer. Jesus Christ. Good luck, you might want to check those morals.
I’m not waffling about the stupid shit Orange man spews which can equally be matched by his counterpart. I’m talking about a party ideology that thinks that it’s ok MAKE IT LEGAL to kill a full term viable baby about to be born, for any reason. Who needs protecting more in that situation, the woman or the child. I can’t believe you are arguing about it.
Sweet Jeezus, Sicko, you're really out there.
Member of the Surfside Church, brother?
You a subscriber Facto ?
Another insult . What’s wrong with you ? You’re a very sad individual. Hopping around the internet looking for people to tease.
Tell me how you are any different from the Nazi flog in the short film ?
Do you act like this in person bloke ? I’d say that’s a definite no.
How else are you supposed to get the adrenochrome sickaz?
Funny, I was a subscriber at one time. Then I got mysteriously 'disappeared', along with various relatively innocuous comments*, and so I cut it off.
I say 'mysteriously', because the biggest fucking idiot on here - the fucking sickly narcissistic bigotted gronk that is you, BLOWIN - 'mysteriously' remained unimpeded, despite whatever rubbish was spewed up by said biggest fucking idiot on here. Weird homosexual innuendo, stalking enquiries, ludicrous handbags-at-dawn threats of violence. Name it, and you crapped it out. And that's not even considering your usual boorish, bog standard bigotry, and general wilfully ignorant ultracrepidarianism.
Jeez, I even offered to rejoin one time when you spat your dummy and melodramatically threatened to cancel your subscription and mince off into the empty void from which you sprang. Actually, 'mysteriously', that comment of offer was 'disappeared' too.
So there you have it.
Protection racket? Sheltered workshop? Snowflake safespace? Take your pick, Blowie.
Who knows, maybe this actual comment will be 'disappeared' too?
Ho fucken hum.
*relative to the vituperative slurry pumped out by the one & only Blowhard.
What would it matter if I did go to church? I am not religious, the only time I have been to a church service besides wedding was once, to skate the old indoor ‘god park’ near Wanneroo for free when I was a broke student. It wasn’t for me, or my mates and we left early. But hey I am not going to judge anyone for going to church.
And no I would not be up for aborted baby adrenochrome.
Donald Trumps adrenochrome.... well that would be quite an undertaking. Like him or loath him or want him dead. You can’t deny the guy has energy, that would be turbo charged adrenochrome. Which is why I made the comment. Plus I was reading Hunter S Thompson. Only drugs I take these days are alcohol and ibuprofen, back in my twenties I partied with the best of them. Then I started a family and watched my bro’s life fall apart with drug induced psychosis.
Fun to think about but no chance I would be brave enough to try anyone’s adrenochrome.
I would imagine that's the best adrenochrome though sickaz. Does that stuff even actually do anything? I thought its effects were all but fictional?
As far as I know it’s real, from your pineal gland?, same gland that squirts DMT into your brain when you die, I think anyway, it could be a myth. DMT is not a myth though I can vouch for that.
Sickaz- that ibuprofen isn’t much better for you than the piss. Both make life a bit more enjoyable at times but I can say from experience that ibuprofen isn’t the best thing for your gut.
Sad to hear about your brother and the drug induced psychosis. A bit of that gets around too. None of it good.
Hunter S Thompson’s description of it in Fear and Loathing makes it seem like perhaps the most intense chemical experience out there. Again though I am no doctor and I have not done the research on it besides googling it when I read Fear and Loathing a couple of years ago.
Facto - Maybe not following crew around like a little lost creep and needlessly hassling them might lift your image ?
You ever thought of that ?
98 percent of your contributions are post hoc insults of crew just stating their opinion. It’s the varying opinions that make Swellnet interesting. Disagreements are to be expected. Someone perpetually trolling around the site with a false sense of entitlement to endlessly berate others because of those opinions is neither expected , wanted or enjoyable for anyone except the silly old flog doing the trolling. Take that shit elsewhere.
I’ve spent the afternoon giving you a taste of your own medicine after you did my head in and I feel dirty for it . Just give it a rest.
Wouldn't want to seem too heretical here, but I feel like fear & loathing may have taken a touch of artistic licence. At any rate based on that gentleman's real life intake, his memory might be a bit hit and miss.
Agreed, I would use Fear and loathing as a solid reference either. I know what I am gonna research in a few hours though. Hopefully soon I will have some valid information.
(Mega record breaking stats that media knew nothing about)
No matter how punters unravel the stats ...History won't lie!
Voters may reward Trump on greatest ever outcomes in US History.
Massacres : (All 100% Record Reductions)
School Shootings = 0
Uni Shootings = 0
Religious Shootings = 0
Coal Reduction = 20-30% (Record reduction)
Reduced Carbon footprint = 30% (Record reduction in April)
2020 Election : 150m -100 yr record turnout- Greatest support for US Democracy!
Pretty sure that is a Democrat tick list... then all just voted for Trump!
Mega record achievements ignored by Media & Trump.
Zero Voting influence on largest US issues of 100 years & nothing whatsoever!
World Record best Democracy! Guns deaths ! Pollution! All failed the top 1,000.
2020 Election : 150m US voters (65%) 100 year record (vs) UK 67.4%
A sitting President only needs to win the Ballot Day count to retain power.
Challenger is not afforded that equal right.
50m will vote on Polling Day ...Republicans 42% (vs) Democrats 36%
These affluent voters reward Trump his Victory Day Declaration.
Trump stripped 1,000's of booths from Black Counties & continues to rort votes.
Poor Black States have 1 booth / county of 20,000 voters & queue 12 hours to vote.
It's impossible to have their vote count on the day! (Trump labels them cheats!)
The former staff boost more "Covid Booths" in affluent Republican Poll Day Booths.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/opinion/trump-election-day.html
Republicans long instructed they'll create chaos at the booths to invalidate votes.
Trump Train is locking down USA Cities in mass scale voter intimidation.
Ironic as the same morons campaign to open city borders. ( A new breed of stupid! )
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/02/new-york-new-jersey-t...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump...
The White House is being caged off...in preparation for Trump's fake declaration.
Trump & supporters now have a Wall inside a Wall inside a wall...(USA is Fucked!)
https://www.tmz.com/2020/11/02/white-house-board-up-wall-fence-barrier-b...
He tried the Trump Fireworks, White House Pandemic , Covid Test Drug Store.
Trump now bunkers off peoples palace as a dictator's fortress.
tbb said it! Trump wants the world to see that he can shit on Govt & Democracy.
God Bless America! ... The gloved Dr No has entered the Building!
Ain't no coming back from this real life Planet of The Apes.
"Trump declares victory!" Orders National Guard to lock down 25 swing states.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/11/02/can-president-trump-call-in-troop...
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1730120/national-guard-troops-election-day/
Aussies are calling for Peace...just chill Team USA.
Trump did warn Democrats 1,000 times to not vote via snail mail.
Trump did warn Democrats 1,000 times he will not count stupid lazy postal votes.
Trump's Emergency Powers control supply & call the shots (re: Covid Tests)
Pre Election (Trump's Emergency Priority)
Covid Tests = 100,000 [+] Blacks/day > extra 10 isolate =1m less Black votes/day.
Post Election (Trump's Emergency Priority)
US Mail prioritises Emergency Covid Tests over lazy voter's ballots. (All say Aye!)
Trump's 100% Postal Governors + 50,000 Marshals officiate with 8,500 lawyers
2020 - 100 million (66%) > Pre Poll votes. (Record)
2016 election guide...
Postal Votes by Party > Dems 48.3% - 49% (vs) Republican 26% - 41.5%
Invalid Postal Votes -300,000 (vs) 2020 prediction > ( 1million )
Denied votes add up to 40% by Race
States lose by the minute > hour > day > as law defaults to the ruling Government.
Trump merely needs to uphold the law whereas Dems must challenge every law.
Ask! How many Lawyers to bring down the biggest Political institution?
Trump swore never to concede!
The Atlantic have exampled Coups & post election outcomes.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/how-trump-could-att...
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refus...
"MAKE IT LEGAL to kill a full term viable baby about to be born, for any reason"
Stop talking absolute shit sickaz. You're just embarrassing yourself.
How do you explain it VL and don’t try a take my quotes out of context so it looks like I am advocating killing full term babies like you are. It might be cool with you but not me. Just to reinforce what I am talking about, watch the video, again, I gave you a longer version. It’s not partisan journalism, It’s a video of a DNC delegate’s testimony about her proposed amendments to VA abortion laws. Anyway, like facto you are a troll, at least you attempt to explain yourself but you fail incessantly. I know I have been fodder for you guys so VL say what you want but I will not engage you again, not because I’m scared of you, it’s because repeating myself just gets tiring and well, your a jerk, it’s not worth my time.
Anyway this is what I’m talking about. See y’all. The Pandora’s box of dead babies IMO.
JQ you were right to be sceptical. Adrenochrome is real though and seems to have an effect similar to mescaline. So it’s a powerful upper with hallucinogenic effects. Hunter S Thompson did seem to get artistic with aspects of it including that it needs to be harvested from the adrenal gland of a living person, which it doesn’t, it can be synthesised. Might still be possible to harvest it from a living person but I’m not sure. I admit it was this that grabbed my attention. Wikipedia has a pretty brief page on it which is a decent 3 minute summary.
It has featured in the work of some epic writer’s, HST, Aldous Huxley and Anthony Burgess which no doubt added to it’s mythical character.
Hahahahaha.
Fuck off Blowie.
Apart from yet more of your infamously spurious mathematical analyses (aka bullshit), it's only a certain disingenuous gronk, that bragged that politics is boring (both Oz and US), and that they don't really know anything about US politics in general, and Trump in particular, yet nevertheless feels the desperate need to stink up threads that deal with both with their daily and incessant 'dead cats' - a disingenuous gronk that is you, Blowie - that really cops it from me.
Info is low hanging fruit that is more to be pitied than anything else. And the last of the 3 stooges, young Seppo, is just a confused mess really, and getting worse. I kinda hope Trumpy wins just for his mental wellbeing.
The jury is still out on Fake Shemp...at the mo.
Here's an idea, Blowie, sweetie, stop writing crap in bad faith, and stick to what you kinda know. Ever heard me commenting on your numerous fish tales (the ones not involving batons) or the state of your vegetables?
Easy peasy.
And stop bullshitting.
#ThereIsAlwaysAComment
Thanks Blowin, good on you for a healthy and positive message. I know the ibuprofen isn’t good for you, better than Tramadol though. I have some new engineering in my spine and am currently close to bed bound which is the reason I am on here so much the last couple of weeks. All good though, recovering well.
And my bro, he went hard on meth, which is a drug I never got into thank god. If anyone reading this is young, Mark my words, don’t mess around with meth, it is the beast. Don’t ever try it, it can change your brain chemistry for ever and rob you of your life. My bro is gonna be on anti psychotics for life but is on a good trajectory now and getting his life back together. Good on ya Mum.
Trump's miracle aborted fetus elixir is now selling from The Whitehouse Gift Shop!
tbb : 'Will you please don't joke about that!'...Who's Joking!
Open the White House Fortress fridge & grab a ... [ pepsi zero sugar ]
https://bakersfieldbside.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/pepsi-abortion.jpg?...
Don't blame ya! That's just sick...who drinks pepsi...
No worries! Can also get yer aborted fetus hit from Mountain Dew, Gatorade
From Whitehouse Dead Baby Snack Bar if you like...Cadbury, Nestle, Lifesavers,
White House Garrison Mess Hall Menu.
Breakfast : Uncle Tobys aborted Oats
Pandoras Box Dead Baby Cafe
Rush hour Coffee Hit : Starbucks dead baby blend
Lunch menu : Spread Kraft fetus over yer Sangerz
Afternoon Snack : Anyone for fetal finger licking Doritos or Lays
Dinner time : Campbell's Chunky dead baby soup or Maggi extra slurpy Noodles
Plenty of Placenta Gums...with flavour burst.
We can all chow down on Trump's immaculate aborted fetus.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/killuminati-soldiers/comprehensive-list-o...
Govt health warning.
These Artificial Snacks have no nutritional afterbirth flavouring.
Jelly Babies, Red Skins, Chicos are just plain sick & may make you vomit.
If the ALP had half a ball and weren’t totally up to their necks in Chinese compromise they’d wedge the LNP by declaring support for throwing tariffs on iron ore and metallurgical coal exports to China straight to 60 percent minimum.
Introduce it as a way to raise government income whilst simultaneously sending the message to the evil empire that we aren’t their vassal state bitch.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/australian-exporters-to-china-face-6-b...
Wrong thread?
A-fucking-gain?!
Then again, another day, another dead cat...and another sub-Trumpy style triple down from the Swellnet blowhard.
But of course...
Yew!
And sterling work as always, TBB.
do you think the ALP being so cosy to and compromised by china is just people falling for a corrupt easy dollar?
like the lnp...
or does it run much deeper, where they actually have an ideological softspot for china?
like facto...
I honestly cannot work out which one is worse...
post corona that is
seriously cannot
this is the best they've got to be leader of the free world?
seriously embarrassing, on so many levels
poor obama, the hardest turd polisher in the business...
https://m.
https://usafirstreporting.com/watch-jill-biden-startles-joe-biden-at-fin...
https://mobile.twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1323739903994306565
embarrassing and dangerous
I know that you know it Sypkan... The DNC had a few excellent, truly respectable candidates with vision running to be the candidate in the primaries.
I’m not a Bernie Sanders fan, but I like him better than Biden. Remember after the primary debates when everything was Bernie, Bernie, Bernie. And then like magic Biden was endorsed. Same thing happened in 2016 with Bernie and Hillary. Their establishment shows nothing to their true supporters but arrogant contempt.
The ‘democratic’ party doesn’t stand for democracy anymore. They are an elitist establishment quickly becoming the antithesis of a democratic institution - an ideological authoritarian power. They don’t want to represent and lead the people, they want to control them.
Compare that to the GOP primaries in 2016. They also had at
East one excellent candidate in Ted Cruz and the GOP establishment were panicked by the thoughtful of Trump leading them. But the republican voters wanted Trump, so the establishment sucked it up, let democracy make the decision and started get on with their job and got behind their new leader.
At least "one excellent candidate in Ted Cruz"?!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
And here I was thinking you were one humourless dude, Sicko.
Good one.
Speaking of humour, Newman knows...
The Guardian: "With about 80% of votes in, Joe Biden leads by just 0.4% in the pivotal swing state of Florida, with the later votes expected to favor Donald Trump."
NYT: 95% chance Trump has won Florida.
Glad we have that clarified.
Better late than NEVER.
SBS delivers the goods*
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/this-is-how-the-us-voting-system-actually-wo...
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/unlike-in-australia-people-don-t-have-to-vot...
*for the readers out there.
From Crikey:
Chaos as democracy: here’s what’s going on behind the scenes as America decides.
On paper the US electoral system seems complicated. In practice it's even more chaotic.
The oddest thing about US elections you need to know before watching today’s results is: no one’s in charge! US voting is decentralised right down to the county with rules that vary from state to state and town to town.
In Australia, we’re used to elections run and reported by independent election commissions. In the US, it’s a battleground of competing party, state and local boards and players. The ballot itself is supervised by politicians, perhaps themselves candidates in the election they’re overseeing.
So look behind the curtain. Here are the seven things you need to know:
Who counts the votes?
Lots and lots of counties. Texas has 254 counties. Even Wyoming has 23. Houston’s Harris County covers 4 million people. Loving in far western Texas has a population of less than 200.
In most states people vote in their local precinct. The numbers are reported to the county where they’re tallied with pre-poll and mail votes. (This pandemic year, early votes could be two-thirds of all votes. Some states are almost entirely vote-by-mail.)
Where are the figures?
Most counties put their numbers online, some don’t. Some states tally their counties. Some don’t.
Some report early votes on the night. Some, like Florida, North Carolina and Arizona pre-count and announce them when polls close.
Some count them in the weeks after. In Alaska they start counting them a week later. Some count post-marked votes that arrive after election day. Some don’t.
Voting is voluntary, so turnout is a guesstimate. The county vote percentage reported through the night is the percentage of finalised precincts, not votes. Big precincts come in late.
Into this mish-mash steps the media.
Historically, the broadcast figures came through Associated Press. Since 2018, the major networks (including CNN) have been using Edison Research, while Fox has its own data unit.
The data is drawn from county websites with added research. AP, for example, has 50 journalists around the country tracking the smaller counties as well as its local journalists in the larger county tally-rooms.
There’s competitive and professional pressure to get the numbers right. Famously Fox had its own reality TV moment in 2012: when Republican commentator Karl Rove disputed the figures, presenter Megyn Kelly walked the cameras into the data room so lead analyst Arnon Mishkin could explain why they were right and Rove was wrong.
How is the winner announced?
Here’s the norm: the networks and aggregators have a “decision desk” of data scientists, academics and journalists. They assess the data, together with exit polls, pre-election polls, estimated turn-out, demographics and previous elections.
Once the desk is confident of a state outcome, the network (or AP) will “award” the state’s electoral college votes to one candidate or another. Once one candidate has been awarded 270 electoral college votes, the election is called.
It’s a thoughtful process — yes, including by Fox. It’s rarely wrong, despite Fox’s notorious call-and-take-back of Florida votes in the 2000 Bush-Gore election. Public acceptance, professional caution and television’s love of building tension pressures the desk to wait until they’re sure.
So that’s that?
Of course not. This is television. It’s entertainment. The official count goes on in the counties for days, before votes are tallied and certified at the state level and the official winners declared. In most states, this won’t happen until late November.
It’s just a norm.
Enter the norm-breaker.
Donald Trump understands that television makes reality. Australia’s own Jonathan Swan reported in Axios on the weekend that Trump is prepared to bypass the network’s caution and declare himself the winner if media counting shows he’s ahead. He’s said he’ll send in “the lawyers” to stop counting.
The networks have said they’ll be cautious about broadcasting claims, and both Facebook and Twitter have said they’ll label them as unsubstantiated. There’s plenty of nervousness about whether the Fox commentariat will be equally reticent.
So, would that be a coup?
Certainly a gulp! But Trump needs: the election to be close, Republican states to go along and courts to waive him through.
To be close, he needs to be ahead in all the swing states with Republican legislatures where polls say he’s behind. So watch Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Arizona and Georgia (plus too-close-to-call Texas, Iowa and Ohio). His campaign is working to block mail-in votes (with mixed responses from the courts) and right-wing activists are looking to disrupt election-day voting in Democrat-leaning precincts.
Right now the polls say Trump won’t have the numbers. But if he is ahead, keep your eye on what the Republican commentariat — especially on Fox — start saying.
So it's close?
Close is good, better to loose on a close one than get blown out of the water.
Hope Trump wins, but expect unlikely.
Close is terrible, irrespective of who wins and loses.
The American system is so ad hoc - see Crikey explainer article above - that it leaves lots of wriggle room for legitimate gripes and for sour grapes.
The only chance for calm after the election is a decisive win by one party or the other so the vanquished pull their heads in and the winners can speak with the unequivocal voice of the majority.
I’d love to think that if Trump won it wouldn’t need to lead to four years of resistance and Russia dribble. Fingers crossed it won’t be like last time if he gets up and just let’s him go about the job of presidency without the stupid trolling in the background.
Got to admit, the US slide into shit show dictatorship looks like it's going to continue. Trump looks like he is going to win this one, even though he will lose the popular vote again, and rely on voter suppression to get across the line. One of the first things this bum will do is pardon all his ex-administration criminal mates who are currently in jail.
It looks like another four more years of corruption, thuggery, and idiocy. This is how democracies die.
Australia should be looking at ways of taking advantage of the inevitable brain drain out of the USA, but I don't think Scumo will make that happen.
Really VL? I've not been watching as I think the result could take a little time to see. Oh now I'll have to bring up the news sites...
I've noticed that depending on the side of news site, you get completely different odds/electoral college predictions, so all are worthless
Been scraping around the finance blogs to see if any of the hedge fund smart cookies would drop a crumb over what their research showed
Yeah...maybe...though I'd also like to think Trump would act with a modicum of predictability and principle rather than the salesman who simply tells you what you want to hear right now, try and lead for the whole country rather than just his base, the result of that shortcoming an increasingly broken 'united' states, stop picking unecessary fights on Twitter, or sounding off about things he knows nothing about, adopt a skerrick of 'presidential' decorum, disclose his tax returns, end the reign of nepotism, same goes his Putin-style contempt for American political conventions such as the recent Supreme Court promotion.
What's the chances?
zero
Yep. Nada.
There's this recurring line from right wing folk that Obama let everyone down with his 'hope' campaign. Aside from everything else, using hope was false advertising or something. 'How did that hope work out for you?'
I wonder if the same people reflect on how 'great' America is now? (Ironic quote marks in full effect).
Perhaps they say, 'it's left wing folk who've stopped America achieving greatness these last four years'.
As if right wing folk didn't block Obama at every turn.
Not really going anywhere with this, just curious how blind partisan politics can be.
Not much chance of that I guess.
But then again he might be the sort of bloke who just digs his feet in and spites the enemy when they never back off. We have literally not seen a single day of Trump presidency when he wasn’t under spurious attack of some description. I’m not talking about bemoaning his policies , I’m talking about the relentless four years of Russia dribble , the impeachment double dribble etc etc .
This sounded counterintuitive and astounding to many but I reckon if he was shown a bit of respect he’d become way more respectful . I’m sure there’ll be an emotional outcry about my proposition but that’s how some people operate. In a combative environment they’ll remain steadfastly combative and act in ways they never would if they had a modicum of support around them.
If he wins four more years he deserves to be allowed to serve his final term without the perennial distraction of petty partisan politics. Constant antagonism brings out the best in no one
It’s not even about Trump it’s about bringing America together and trying to strive for the best the nation can achieve.
"...spites the enemy.."
Who we talking about here?
The people he's presiding over, or a rising foreign superpower?
Judging from some of the absolute clowns who have been elected / re-elected on the GOP side, there's very little hope for sensible governance over in the USA.
They voted in a fuckwit who did a Hitler history tour which was on "his bucket list" and another full on Qanon nutter.
How do you negotiate with that type of idiocy.
Yeah VL, that shit beggars belief. For me, all optimism for America righting the ship was lost when I heard that. It's only gonna get worse.
False equivalence Stu.
Obama never experienced a single moment of the type of antagonism that Trump has faced for his entire term.
Public declarations of resistance, attempts to delegitimise and impeach and obstruct at every turn.
The whole sorry Russia bullshit . Protests at the inauguration. Staged civil insurrection. Virtually an entire legacy media and Big Tech colluding against him . It’s been a relentless shit show .
Obama was - and still is - treated like a golden god because he appeared statesmen like and because he was black . Apart from those two factors he was a very , very ordinary President who was lifted above his station by a fawning media.
Come on Stu . Are you being disingenuous on purpose ?
The media , big tech and all the TDS sufferers who rejected democracy by not respecting the result of an election and persecuted the president from day one of his term. They were literally his enemy....self declared.
You didn't read it correctly.
Obama said hope, he didn't deliver.
Trump said great, he didn't deliver.
So if the critics diss Obama, then they have to diss Trump too.
(But if you want some reading about "obstructions at every turn" check senate leader Mitch McConnell's resume. Makes Tony Abbott look like a Miss Congenial)
Not disengenuous, Trump has many media backers in America, including Fox of course, who I think are the biggest in America.
Hardly like he's on his own.
Part of his schtick, adopted from Bannon, was to create the villain, stir it up, because he (they) know their followers like that stuff. And it worked wonders - the media bought it, the populace split - to the point he's now verging on cult status with all the rubbish QAnon theories entering the fray.
It's transparent as cellophane, or at least I thought it was.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank