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adam12 wrote:zenagain wrote:Good post above TBB about Top-Cat.
Adam- luck?
Trump already had it in the bag, this just sealed it. Dunno about the end of American democracy right now though. Whatever that is.
@Zen, a sniper with an AR takes a head shot and hits his ear?
I'd call that pretty lucky. The man has had incredible luck all his life.
As for American democracy, they are going to dismantle it. I've read their plans.
Just watch.
Indeed. Plans in place to replace previous non aligned govt staff with full on hard core maga members. It’s a scary future.
hysterical...
I love ya adam... but seriously?
"So too is American democracy. "
how anyone can say this with a straight face is beyond me...
after 3 election cycles of democrat party 'process'...
and a doddering, cantankerous, plagerising, lying, unpopular, weekend at bernies candidate is STILL their candidate...
after russia russia russia, the laptop, impeachment 1 and 11 (failed), lawfare 1, 11, 111, 1V ongoing... (failed) ...after media bias, corrupted fbi, cia, SM censorship... on and on...
and you say...
"So too is American democracy. "
well fuck me...
you live in a different universe to me
goofyfoot wrote:Say what you want about Trump but Pretty visually impressive effort to get up off the ground with his fist up in defiance.
It’s the attitude you want a leader to portray.
Like any politician, you quickly learn to never waste a good photo opportunity.
Defiance may or may not be the attitude you want a leader to portray, but he clearly falls well short of the character and courage of JFK (PT109).
It's going to be an interesting ride....
USA, think they may have to rethink the U...
but yes
as the astute commenters say...
since television it's all about 'the optics'
now steroided up by the internet
the optics of that trump photo versus the jellyflater johnny cash vid above...
it would seem its in the bag
that photo reminds me of that famous WW11 photo, where the troops were propping up that amercan flag flagpole in a battlefield
american patriot porn
(all staged apparently)
but this one wasn't even staged!
a phenomenal captured moment in time
a democrat strategist was on abc yesterday, seemingly on the verge of tears, saying you couldn't write a worse script than the current one regarding the democrats party, joe biden, and their current predicament...
today... you couldn't write a better script for team trump...
the whole thing...
assasination... failed...
a bullet scrape... blood...
jumping back to his feet...
yelling, fight fight fight...
then that photo!
you gotta hand it to the big orange blob
he does great reality television
(coming from someone who never watched a single episode of the apprentice)
adam12 wrote:Hysteria and conspiracy theories aside. Trump by a landslide now.
How is this man's luck?
Amazing.
The contrast between a mumbling, vague Biden at the debate and that Iwo Jima like image of a defiant bloodied Trump, fist raised, with the flag flying in the sky behind him...the election's over. Doesn't matter who the Dems put up, Biden, Harris, Newsom...doesn't matter.
When Trump was President and got covid and did the staged helicopter return to the White House where he stood on the balcony and defiantly ripped off his mask there was a story going around at the time that Trump had wanted to wear a Superman costume under his shirt and wanted to tear open the shirt to reveal a Superman logo. Not sure how true it was.
He's Superman now.
Election over. So too is American democracy. A pivotal historic sliding doors moment, a matter of inches.
Unfortunately for us in Oz, all the Trump idolaters here will come out in force, MAGA capped and waving the US flag.
Unbearable.
hope kevin rudd sent a suitably sycophantic message, gonna have to kiss the don's ring a bit.
I know Adam 12 lives in my universe , but agree with sypkan .
American Democracy was thrown out the door when the DOJ , became Political .
That the Media allowed it to go under reported , was unbelievable .
If I was Trump , I would be firing his Head of Security .
I am no security expert , but surely they would check out every location , before Trump speaks to a crowd .
A bunch of buildings "200-250 yards " with unimpeded Views of the Stage , outside the Security Perimeter , is Snipers heaven .
Those buildings should have had at least one guard and/or drone , patrolling them , surely .
Trump has the perfect excuse , to cancel ALL political rallies and the people will understand .
I bet he doesn't !
I think it';s lucky for everyone in the US , that Trump survived the assignation attempt .
Imagine what would be happening now , if Trump was dead .
Mayhem !
andy-mac wrote:It's going to be an interesting ride....
USA, think they may have to rethink the U...
No need to change.
It now stands for Un-united
"Unfortunately for us in Oz, all the Trump idolaters here will come out in force, MAGA capped and waving the US flag.
Unbearable."
yep
dutton already jumped the gun with a pending trump re-election...
he bet the house on it!
now he'll fully release the hounds...
cringe
MAGA - Trump a true legend of his time. The way he stood up and raised his fist after being shot in the ear gave me goose bumps. I wish i could vote for him.
Finaly his bodyguards got a chance to say it !
and, speaking of optics...
not a good look ' how did you miss?' trending on twitter
with all sorts of deranged democrats indulging...
a bit disgusting actually
(when not even done in humour)
This unhinged leftist is having a meltdown because the sh**ter missed Trump. These people are deranged. pic.twitter.com/7UGmq2vNw6
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Trump was nearly assassinated today. Then one Seattle reporter posted this. ️ pic.twitter.com/ab8qH0rrvp
— Jonathan Choe (@choeshow) July 14, 2024
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Monstrous reaction to the attempt on Trump’s life. These people are completely unhinged. They are enemies of humanity. pic.twitter.com/Z9gWCQQ7Ts
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not even a scherrick of humour implied...
this shit ain't healthy for ANY society!
sypkan wrote:and, speaking of optics...
not a good look ' how did you miss?' trending on twitter
with all sorts of deranged democrats indulging...
a bit disgusting actually
(when not even done in humour)
This unhinged leftist is having a meltdown because the sh**ter missed Trump. These people are deranged. pic.twitter.com/7UGmq2vNw6
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
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Trump was nearly assassinated today. Then one Seattle reporter posted this. ️ pic.twitter.com/ab8qH0rrvp
— Jonathan Choe (@choeshow) July 14, 2024
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not even a scherrick of humour implied
this shit ain't healthy for ANY society!
Do you think if It was Biden and not Trump…the far right and maga would be acting and posting any differently?
(Faux outrage is trending on X)
basesix wrote:hope kevin rudd sent a suitably sycophantic message, gonna have to kiss the don's ring a bit.
Will be good seeing the dud getting sent home when trump wins lol ;)
Trump has a long memory.
Its going to be interesting to see who the shooter was and his history, social media etc
Those early claims of being an antifa member are really just rumours at this stage, although it would not be surprising.
I guess we wait and see.
Prediction for part of a future Trump speach
“I survived an assassination attempt. It was the worst attempt ever. Biden could never have survived it.”
Roadkill wrote:sypkan wrote:and, speaking of optics...
not a good look ' how did you miss?' trending on twitter
with all sorts of deranged democrats indulging...
a bit disgusting actually
(when not even done in humour)
This unhinged leftist is having a meltdown because the sh**ter missed Trump. These people are deranged. pic.twitter.com/7UGmq2vNw6
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
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Trump was nearly assassinated today. Then one Seattle reporter posted this. ️ pic.twitter.com/ab8qH0rrvp
— Jonathan Choe (@choeshow) July 14, 2024
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not even a scherrick of humour implied
this shit ain't healthy for ANY society!
Do you think if It was Biden and not Trump…the far right and maga would be acting and posting any differently?
(Faux outrage is trending on X)
actually I do...
sure, they'd be some, but as you say... far right and MAGA...
these are supposedly respected journalists, academics, and representatives posting about trump
and tbh, I don't think the MAGA 'uneducated' and 'deplorable' nobodies would do it at such a dangerous level of hate and vitriol
it's perverse
these people are literally not well
indo-dreaming wrote:Its going to be interesting to see who the shooter was and his history, social media etc
Those early claims of being an antifa member are really just rumours at this stage, although it would not be surprising.
I guess we wait and see.
appears it's not chubby antifa man looking at the corpse
but also appears it may just be they/them...
I don't really care what excuses and justifications anyone comes up with...
democrats have actively fostered this level of vitriol and general unwellness
Leftist cries actual tears because the sh**ter missed Trump. pic.twitter.com/7hxEXuNbVc
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
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They want to put you in the ground. This is the left. This is the woke mind virus, fully operational and weaponized. pic.twitter.com/X1tjjrDr8V
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) July 14, 2024
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I wonder if Joe is 'fuck it, why couldn't someone shoot at me, I coulda really used an assassination attempt right about now'.
burleigh wrote:MAGA - Trump a true legend of his time. The way he stood up and raised his fist after being shot in the ear gave me goose bumps. I wish i could vote for him.
Then move to the USA, try to get a job and citizenship before November.
Let us know how you go.
sypkan wrote:I don't really care what excuses and justifications anyone comes up with...
democrats have actively fostered this level of vitriol and general unwellness
Leftist cries actual tears because the sh**ter missed Trump. pic.twitter.com/7hxEXuNbVc
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
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They want to put you in the ground. This is the left. This is the woke mind virus, fully operational and weaponized. pic.twitter.com/X1tjjrDr8V
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) July 14, 2024
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You’re wrong. You can’t blame one side over the other. Both are equally to blame. Trump has actually fuelled the hate more so than Biden. Behind Trump and Biden are followers that have agendas they are pushing.
No side can take the high ground and say “it wasn’t us”.
Biden wants to get Don on the phone asap.
I'm guessing speaker phone.
zenagain wrote:I wonder if Joe is 'fuck it, why couldn't someone shoot at me, I coulda really used an assassination attempt right about now'.
Or “why not take out Trump?, I’ve got presidential immunity”
sypkan wrote:Roadkill wrote:sypkan wrote:and, speaking of optics...
not a good look ' how did you miss?' trending on twitter
with all sorts of deranged democrats indulging...
a bit disgusting actually
(when not even done in humour)
This unhinged leftist is having a meltdown because the sh**ter missed Trump. These people are deranged. pic.twitter.com/7UGmq2vNw6
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
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Trump was nearly assassinated today. Then one Seattle reporter posted this. ️ pic.twitter.com/ab8qH0rrvp
— Jonathan Choe (@choeshow) July 14, 2024
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not even a scherrick of humour implied
this shit ain't healthy for ANY society!
Do you think if It was Biden and not Trump…the far right and maga would be acting and posting any differently?
(Faux outrage is trending on X)
actually I do...
sure, they'd be some, but as you say... far right and MAGA...
these are supposedly respected journalists, academics, and representatives posting about trump
and tbh, I don't think the MAGA 'uneducated' and 'deplorable' nobodies would do it at such a dangerous level of hate and vitriol
it's perverse
these people are literally not well
Yet Trump, in his demonisation of Pence for not overturning the 2020 election result, actively encouraged the Capitol Hill rioters, who stormed the building shouting "Hang Pence".
Good Ol' Don, what a champion of democracy.
A Salty Dog wrote:sypkan wrote:Roadkill wrote:sypkan wrote:and, speaking of optics...
not a good look ' how did you miss?' trending on twitter
with all sorts of deranged democrats indulging...
a bit disgusting actually
(when not even done in humour)
This unhinged leftist is having a meltdown because the sh**ter missed Trump. These people are deranged. pic.twitter.com/7UGmq2vNw6
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Trump was nearly assassinated today. Then one Seattle reporter posted this. ️ pic.twitter.com/ab8qH0rrvp
— Jonathan Choe (@choeshow) July 14, 2024
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
not even a scherrick of humour implied
this shit ain't healthy for ANY society!
Do you think if It was Biden and not Trump…the far right and maga would be acting and posting any differently?
(Faux outrage is trending on X)
actually I do...
sure, they'd be some, but as you say... far right and MAGA...
these are supposedly respected journalists, academics, and representatives posting about trump
and tbh, I don't think the MAGA 'uneducated' and 'deplorable' nobodies would do it at such a dangerous level of hate and vitriol
it's perverse
these people are literally not well
Yet Trump, in his demonisation of Pence for not overturning the 2020 election result, actively encouraged the Capitol Hill rioters, who stormed the building shouting "Hang Pence".
Good Ol' Don, what a champion of democracy.
I think sypkan has selective memory and is happy to give a free pass to prior actions.
Roadkill wrote:sypkan wrote:I don't really care what excuses and justifications anyone comes up with...
democrats have actively fostered this level of vitriol and general unwellness
Leftist cries actual tears because the sh**ter missed Trump. pic.twitter.com/7hxEXuNbVc
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
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They want to put you in the ground. This is the left. This is the woke mind virus, fully operational and weaponized. pic.twitter.com/X1tjjrDr8V
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) July 14, 2024
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You’re wrong. You can’t blame one side over the other. Both are equally to blame. Trump has actually fuelled the hate more so than Biden. Behind Trump and Biden are followers that have agendas they are pushing.
No side can take the high ground and say “it wasn’t us”.
Not often I agree with you Roadkill, but this time 100%.
If you can't see that, it's not one side or the other, but US political discourse that's at fault, then you're only seeing half the picture.
What's worse, you're feeding the beast with the partisan energy it needs.
Keep that energy outta here and out of this country.
Doesn't belong in any country but there you go.
Btw, I reckon Syps memory is fine.
Can't hold a candle to Udo though.
Siri cant hold a candle to Udo.
Roadkill wrote:sypkan wrote:I don't really care what excuses and justifications anyone comes up with...
democrats have actively fostered this level of vitriol and general unwellness
Leftist cries actual tears because the sh**ter missed Trump. pic.twitter.com/7hxEXuNbVc
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 14, 2024
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
They want to put you in the ground. This is the left. This is the woke mind virus, fully operational and weaponized. pic.twitter.com/X1tjjrDr8V
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) July 14, 2024
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You’re wrong. You can’t blame one side over the other. Both are equally to blame. Trump has actually fuelled the hate more so than Biden. Behind Trump and Biden are followers that have agendas they are pushing.
No side can take the high ground and say “it wasn’t us”.
Yep....
I just wonder now if it has gone too far the extreme partisan crap and can be salvaged or if the USA is going to face some major civil unrest.
The election is going to be a shit show....
Sad.
I really hope Australia can avoid going down this path.
Australia will go down the same path, when you have people that hate their own country, culture, history etc its bound to happen.
indo-dreaming wrote:Australia will go down the same path, when you have people that hate their own country, culture, history etc its bound to happen.
No one I know hates this country
Me too, but I bet they're out there.
Surf's still pumping!
Roadkill wrote:Indeed. Plans in place to replace previous non aligned govt staff with full on hard core maga members. It’s a scary future.
And it looks like he is going to get to do it. I see a massive bonus for Russian expansion into Europe if this happens, just you watch.
goofyfoot wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Australia will go down the same path, when you have people that hate their own country, culture, history etc its bound to happen.
No one I know hates this country
Maybe i should have worded it different there is a growing anti western sentiment in the west including in Australia.
And things like being proud of your country and culture, patriotism and nationalism are being seen as bad.
Things are going to get much worse unless that whole attitude turns around, which it wont.
We will become much more divided, and it becomes even worse when we import large numbers of people with values, culture even religion that don't align with our own. (our religion being a mild Christian culture non beliver majority)
USA & Europe in a much worse place than us though, they are much further down the track.
Why haven’t the Democrats come up with their own version of Project 25?
Surely they’ve realised that more and more people are concluding that the system is rotten, rigged against them. Corporations and those who control blocks of corporations at the very least showing signs of severe oligarchical tendencies – antithetical to the interests of the vast majority.
Project 25 is a direct response to this sentiment. You’d think the Dems might have some empathy with those who harbour these concerns. Their once base. The Dems myopia is staggering. No one’s bothered to tell them that we’re not in Kansas anymore?
To paraphrase some smart fella – 90% of Americans are now hillbillies, rednecks, deplorables. And they’re not happy.
The Dems could start here – with the oligarchs - take the advice of this bright young up and comer. The irony is strong with this one.
goofyfoot wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Australia will go down the same path, when you have people that hate their own country, culture, history etc its bound to happen.
No one I know hates this country
There are plenty of NZ MPs that openly state that they hate what built our country. And you daily see tens of thousands of protesters burning the flags of their adopted countries, and stating that their laws don't mean a thing. Not such a preposterous statement from Indo, I reckon.
for the 100th time, just cos you criticise the democrats doesn't mean you support trump...
like, the 40% ...the (now) party-less...
look, trump has his shtick and he takes it to the extreme
he is... 'the disruptor and chief'
but his success was only because democrats provided such fertile ground... because the democrats had lost the plot...
trump's election should have been a correction... a blip... but it wasn't... it just made a certain cohort go harder...
they are literally the tds crew...
still... 8 fucking years on!
and their rhetoric is just plain nutty, they have fostered this thinking that any means is justified to achieve the end... their end...
the end = get trump
MAGA clearly have their nuts too... but I'd say they are a very small percentage... maybe running at 20% of republican voters max...
and they are essentially nobodies, nobody listens to them, and they possess very little influence...
the democrats nutters, I'd say are running at a healthy 50%+
the...
'whatever it takes' crowd...
they are not nobodies, they are media, academia, hollywood, the intelligence apparatus, the high end public service...
'the establishment'
and they generally set the rules
biden promised to unite the country - he has failed abysmally at this task...
that's democrats saying that!
yeh trump is the initial disruptor...
but it's how his opposition has 'reacted' to him that matters...
(very reactionary you might say...)
they have not endeared themselves to the ordinary voter
at all..
(despite bucket loads of $$$...)
they have not endeavoured to unite the country...
at all...
they have just sown hate and vitriol to what they perceive as an existential threat...
(MAGA)
they are totally delusional, both in their take on things, and the perceived 'threat'
poll numbers show this to be true - more than ever - despite the loathefullness most people feel towards trump...
they've won no one over in their four years term... no one!
they've only pushed more people to trump - despite his obvious flaws...
they are a failure in every sense of the word, not least in terms of appealing to, and appeasing ordinary voters...
the 'existential threat', ...is essentially to their power and nothing else...
america IS in a civil war right now...
but despite this,
despite the unrest...
despite the lawfare...
despite the hysterics...
despite the constant calls to arms...
despite the weaponisation of institutions generally...
despite the guns...
there is no war...
yet
there is peace in the suburbs
because most people are actually pretty sane and just get on with their lives
they see it for all that it is...
the deranged democrats however...
indo-dreaming wrote:goofyfoot wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Australia will go down the same path, when you have people that hate their own country, culture, history etc its bound to happen.
No one I know hates this country
Maybe i should have worded it different there is a growing anti western sentiment in the west including in Australia.
And things like being proud of your country and culture, patriotism and nationalism are being seen as bad.
Things are going to get much worse unless that whole attitude turns around, which it wont.
We will become much more divided, and it becomes even worse when we import large numbers of people with values, culture even religion that don't align with our own. (our religion being a mild Christian culture non beliver majority)
USA & Europe in a much worse place than us though, they are much further down the track.
Exactly, and they are not hard to find even a few on here.
indo-dreaming wrote:goofyfoot wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Australia will go down the same path, when you have people that hate their own country, culture, history etc its bound to happen.
No one I know hates this country
Maybe i should have worded it different there is a growing anti western sentiment in the west including in Australia.
And things like being proud of your country and culture, patriotism and nationalism are being seen as bad.
Things are going to get much worse unless that whole attitude turns around, which it wont.
We will become much more divided, and it becomes even worse when we import large numbers of people with values, culture even religion that don't align with our own. (our religion being a mild Christian culture non beliver majority)
USA & Europe in a much worse place than us though, they are much further down the track.
Agree, it's come through the unviersities via Frankfurt School teachings over a period of 60-70 years, the 'long march through the institutions' is over and now the anti-western sentiment is evidenced in institutions of state.
If you go back, the whole idea of 'colonialism' was actually promoted as a Soviet strategy that was useful in 'wedging' countries targeted for coups on the periphery of the cold war fault lines; and thus you saw western South African or Rhodesian forces up against Marxist guerilla groups that were sponsored by Russia, China, Cuba. Eg Angola War, Bush War. Now 'colonialism' as a ideological construct is the dominant ideology of our unis, and it divides cosmopolitan populations by race and perceived background of their ancestors. Like formenting a Spartacus revolt.
You might like this Indo:
It would be much, much better now if the western nations took a step back and looked at the ideological divide as a way to undermine them, rather than the vitriol. The division is to weaken them, and a big fight is coming - their enemies are converting their economies to war economies. Wake up!
"their enemies are converting their economies to war economies. Wake up!"
and our 'intelligentsia'
are more focussed on ' the enemy' within...
a perceived threat
absolute bullshit
meanwhile... countries that don't do self loathing...
are arming themselves to the teeth
I said a few weeks ago a Trump Presidency would be motivated by revenge.
"I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution." — Donald Trump
This Four Corners program should be interesting.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-09/retribution/104074770
Yes, to be fair Sypkan this is the biggest arms build up on all sides, since the 1930s. If you look at the PLAN, it's actually bigger and faster than the German High Seas fleet 1900-1914. It's massive. 2nd para on this one Sypy:
https://navalinstitute.com.au/more-needed-well-before-snn-aukus-arrives/
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indo-dreaming wrote:Australia will go down the same path, when you have people that hate their own country, culture, history etc its bound to happen.
That attitude is part of the problem is it not?
yeh
but is it intelligentsia approved?
quite the opposite I would argue
they are still arguing against it!
daily
praise the gawwwds it's happening despite our 'best and brightest'
rattling on about 'white domestic terrorism threats'
farkn clowns seem to be still spoiling for their long accepted chinese domination model...
still...
the dumb cunts will be the first to go if it ever happens
history tells us that
I love paul keating, but his little project has proven to be totally fanciful...
clowns like phillip adams and friends (who I also love) are living in a total dreamworld captured in a time about 3 decades ago...
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank