COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

"...Only to watch it fall apart in July 2021 thanks to NSW.

Dunno about you but it would've been great for NSW to keep covid in their state during the June to September period or whatever it was. Really didn't need a lockdown all last winter?"

missing your lockdown winter 2022 already?

all butt hurt you don't get to dictate night time curfews and how and when people can work and live? ... all while you draw a full salary from the public purse for tinkering at home on your laptop...

2 years of lockdown is just never enough is it?

for some...

fukn unbelievable!

Nice sticking up for abusing women now. Canadian pm elbowed a women in parliament I posted the video few days ago. Crickets on that one now i know why.

bluediamond wrote:

More misinformation of police violence in Ottawa.
I'm not sure what the threshold is for what some consider violence..but yeah...
Only sharing via rebelnews because it was the first place i found it on and the reporter is with rebel.
https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_rebel_news_journalist_alexa_lavoie_at...

lMAO…ladies and covidiots, bd presents his important fairy story with evidence from rebel news.

Robo wrote:

Nice sticking up for abusing women now. Canadian pm elbowed a women in parliament I posted the video few days ago. Crickets on that one now i know why.

Sorry robo but your video was inconclusive af. I even watched it a few times and there’s no way you can see anything. That could explain the tumbleweeds

bluediamond wrote:

And yep, this thread should be shut down. This filth above shouldn't be allowed to have a voice on a website with a good reputation like SN's.
Fucked if i'm ever logging back into this thread again. Dark place with some people that probably belong on forums on non surfing websites. Disgusting. Don't support the mandates folks. The government and the 2 goons above plus their 3 man(ha!) entourage don't have your best interests at heart.

Great news, log out..go away and stay away…for your own mental health.

This thread shouldn't be shut because a few get triggered. Funnily enough many calling for it's closure are contributors to the tone it carries.

BD should as he suggests remove himself or be removed for his own benefit. Becoming more unhinged at more posters daily. It is pathetic and kind of sad.

Roadkill wrote:

This thread shouldn't be shut because a few get triggered. Funnily enough many calling for it's closure are contributors to the tone it carries.

BD should as he suggests remove himself or be removed for his own benefit. Becoming more unhinged at more posters daily. It is pathetic and kind of sad.

lol, says the unsympathetic toad, that's your game keep goating people to they loose it or give up, you and VL are the unhinged mental cases on here.

burleigh wrote:

Ahhhhh good old ACA showing Australia that the horse de-wormer has been approved as a treatment

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CaPFJ-fhsNB/?utm_medium=copy_link

haha

Alana_a wrote:

sypkan wrote:

adam12 wrote:

Sypkan,
Yeah, nah.
You have no idea how popular Dan is in this state and it has nothing to do with how weak the VicLibs are.
His popularity was cemented during the bushfire response and has only been enhanced by his pandemic response.
You sound like some half arsed NewsCorp journalist or SkyNews bobblehead in your little rant.
Victorians were proud that they got the virus under control during the first waves, they were prepared to do the lockdowns and were mightily pissed at NSW, Gladys and Dom when they didn't control it.
I've lived here under every premier going back to Henry Bolte, good and bad on both sides, and never seen a premier so popular. The reason he is so popular is because he is regarded as being very good at his job. In the upcoming election he will be returned with an even bigger majority. He will retire undefeated. Victorian voters an "odd bunch", "neoliberal progressive stooges", yeah, whatever you say. They have shown to be pretty astute over the years to me, but I only live here everyday, you must get a clearer view from 'I got the shitsville" or under that rock in some other State.

I dont doubt any of that adam12...

'viccos are an odd bunch'

really truly are...

like a really really big adelaide

but not as cool

If this bloke thinks he’s talking for all victorians then think again.
Make no mistake, viccos would be doing much of the same as the last two years if it wasn’t for the shining light of its north eastern neighbour. Much to viclocal , stok and Adams disgust.
Ol vicloc banging on and on about scomo and glady and the whole ‘let it rip’ brigade. It’s madness he said, the hospitals won’t be able to cope he said. Wait until 2 weeks time he said over and over again. You’ll see he said, pointing his make believe gun at us. The unvaxd need to be punished, face consequences and be held to account! he said. Fetch me another crown lager please roadkill, he said
Fast forward a few months and half of the world is also ‘letting it rip’. Fast forward a few more months and vic and co will eventually come out of hibernation but only for a few hours a day. It’s best to test the waters first he’ll say.

Well said, honestly it was such a relief when it got out of control in NSW, Dan would have been quite happy to continue with lockdowns for god knows how long, the guy is power hungry and dangerous.

Thank god we have now actually progressed and joined the world in having more personal freedoms and being able to travel again etc.

Robo wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

This thread shouldn't be shut because a few get triggered. Funnily enough many calling for it's closure are contributors to the tone it carries.

BD should as he suggests remove himself or be removed for his own benefit. Becoming more unhinged at more posters daily. It is pathetic and kind of sad.

lol, says the unsympathetic toad, that's your game keep goating people to they loose it or give up, you and VL are the unhinged mental cases on here.

Hey fool, stop excusing yourself from being a part of the thread standards. Own it also.

If you want to throw dirt, expect it to be thrown back...stop being a whinging crybaby victim. You anti vax clowns are so quick to pull the victim card.

UK you don't even have to stay home now if positive, you can come out from under your rock now toad.

Robo wrote:

UK you don't even have to stay home now if positive, you can come out from under your rock now toad.

see there you go, you just finished say "that's your game keep goating people" and then you do what you just said other do.

You are too stupid.

ps, In the context you used, the correct word is goading.

Robo wrote:

UK you don't even have to stay home now if positive, you can come out from under your rock now toad.

In place ready to go Robo
or still Subject to Parlimentry Approval ?

"lol, says the unsympathetic toad, that's your game keep goating people to they loose it or give up, you and VL are the unhinged mental cases on here."
goating robo? really robo?

udo wrote:

Robo wrote:

UK you don't even have to stay home now if positive, you can come out from under your rock now toad.

In place ready to go Robo
or still Subject to Parlimentry Approval ?

yes Ludo it's happening, stock up on your tissues and dunny rolls

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/people-with-covid-will-no-longer-nee...

indo-dreaming wrote:

Alana_a wrote:

sypkan wrote:

adam12 wrote:

Sypkan,
Yeah, nah.
You have no idea how popular Dan is in this state and it has nothing to do with how weak the VicLibs are.
His popularity was cemented during the bushfire response and has only been enhanced by his pandemic response.
You sound like some half arsed NewsCorp journalist or SkyNews bobblehead in your little rant.
Victorians were proud that they got the virus under control during the first waves, they were prepared to do the lockdowns and were mightily pissed at NSW, Gladys and Dom when they didn't control it.
I've lived here under every premier going back to Henry Bolte, good and bad on both sides, and never seen a premier so popular. The reason he is so popular is because he is regarded as being very good at his job. In the upcoming election he will be returned with an even bigger majority. He will retire undefeated. Victorian voters an "odd bunch", "neoliberal progressive stooges", yeah, whatever you say. They have shown to be pretty astute over the years to me, but I only live here everyday, you must get a clearer view from 'I got the shitsville" or under that rock in some other State.

I dont doubt any of that adam12...

'viccos are an odd bunch'

really truly are...

like a really really big adelaide

but not as cool

If this bloke thinks he’s talking for all victorians then think again.
Make no mistake, viccos would be doing much of the same as the last two years if it wasn’t for the shining light of its north eastern neighbour. Much to viclocal , stok and Adams disgust.
Ol vicloc banging on and on about scomo and glady and the whole ‘let it rip’ brigade. It’s madness he said, the hospitals won’t be able to cope he said. Wait until 2 weeks time he said over and over again. You’ll see he said, pointing his make believe gun at us. The unvaxd need to be punished, face consequences and be held to account! he said. Fetch me another crown lager please roadkill, he said
Fast forward a few months and half of the world is also ‘letting it rip’. Fast forward a few more months and vic and co will eventually come out of hibernation but only for a few hours a day. It’s best to test the waters first he’ll say.

Well said, honestly it was such a relief when it got out of control in NSW, Dan would have been quite happy to continue with lockdowns for god knows how long, the guy is power hungry and dangerous.

Thank god we have now actually progressed and joined the world in having more personal freedoms and being able to travel again etc.

As a triple waxxed individual I fully agree. NSW last winter was a kick in the ass we needed for the population to get vaccinated and move to the next phase. Heaps of people were fence-sitting on the vaccination, waiting it out because the perception of risk was so skewed and unrealistic.

Cheers Robo...i thought you were just making shit up again.....do you have any Figures on Unjabbed Arrivals that entered the country yesterday...?
All good fully stocked here with those items
And yourself and Team SAO lets not run out of Nibbles now eh ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soggy_biscuit

Robo wrote:

udo wrote:

Robo wrote:

UK you don't even have to stay home now if positive, you can come out from under your rock now toad.

In place ready to go Robo
or still Subject to Parlimentry Approval ?

yes Ludo it's happening, stock up on your tissues and dunny rolls

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/people-with-covid-will-no-longer-nee...

That is stupid. I have no problems with living with covid but known diagnosed cases whilst infectious should not be out and about. Same goes with the flu.

Roadkill wrote:

Robo wrote:

udo wrote:

Robo wrote:

UK you don't even have to stay home now if positive, you can come out from under your rock now toad.

In place ready to go Robo
or still Subject to Parlimentry Approval ?

yes Ludo it's happening, stock up on your tissues and dunny rolls

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/people-with-covid-will-no-longer-nee...

That is stupid. I have no problems with living with covid but known diagnosed cases whilst infectious should not be out and about. Same goes with the flu.

I agree, people should not go around while sick, the question is do you make it illegal? Leaving your home with the flu is not illegal but it is not recommended. Covid is the opposit. Snippet from the article below:

'Removing the COVID-19 self-isolation legal requirements and replacing them with voluntary guidance would bring the disease in line with how England treats most other infections.'

flollo wrote:

I agree, people should not go around while sick, the question is do you make it illegal? Leaving your home with the flu is not illegal but it is not recommended. Covid is the opposit. Snippet from the article below:

'Removing the COVID-19 self-isolation legal requirements and replacing them with voluntary guidance would bring the disease in line with how England treats most other infections.'

The end goal here is for it not to be illegal.

For testing to stop.

For vaccinations to not be mandated.

It will happen in good time.

flollo wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

Robo wrote:

udo wrote:

Robo wrote:

UK you don't even have to stay home now if positive, you can come out from under your rock now toad.

In place ready to go Robo
or still Subject to Parlimentry Approval ?

yes Ludo it's happening, stock up on your tissues and dunny rolls

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/people-with-covid-will-no-longer-nee...

That is stupid. I have no problems with living with covid but known diagnosed cases whilst infectious should not be out and about. Same goes with the flu.

I agree, people should not go around while sick, the question is do you make it illegal? Leaving your home with the flu is not illegal but it is not recommended. Covid is the opposit. Snippet from the article below:

'Removing the COVID-19 self-isolation legal requirements and replacing them with voluntary guidance would bring the disease in line with how England treats most other infections.'

Hopefully, people make the voluntary decision to stay home...some won't but most will. Would be pretty tough to make it illegal as to prove it, would be hard and a waste of resources.
Community and workplace pressure may play a big factor in making people choose to self isolate until non infectious.

indo-dreaming wrote:

Well said, honestly it was such a relief when it got out of control in NSW, Dan would have been quite happy to continue with lockdowns for god knows how long, the guy is power hungry and dangerous.

Thank god we have now actually progressed and joined the world in having more personal freedoms and being able to travel again etc.

Far out ID, you have some pretty sane takes on things but then you just roll out stuff which shows how manipulated by the Murdoch crew you really are.

VicLab always made it clear when vaccinations hit their targets we'd open up, and they did.

Labour, and Dan Andrews have actually performed well by managing expectations and not over promising. The idiot anti Labour press pounced on this and screamed 'Tyrant! He wants control forever!'. Complete BS. In a scenario such as this, where one can't accurately predict the future, having a more conservative outlook is realistic. Saying 'We need to stay locked down until we have this under control' is better than, 'Don't worry guys, I'm sure we'll be ok in a week, let's aim to open up then.'

One thing that did occur is it did give us the kick up the arse needed, as Flollo said. But that had nothing to do with Dan, and everything to do with NSW letting covid leak into our state.

Alana_a wrote:

Oh ok, so you thought it was possible to be COVID free in Victoria. I rest my case.

Haha! I love a good Lionel Hutz reference!

Well, it was possible. We had it late 2020, early 2021, and mid 2021. The rest of Aus had it.

As for your other comment:

"In your opinion stok would it then of gotten so out of hand if so many nurses/ doctors didn’t quit/ be told they weren’t allowed on site?"

I really don't know the answer to this, but I have the following thoughts:
1. I don't really believe that many nurses/doctors quit. I'm sure some did, but nurses/doctors are smart, and work alongside very smart people. In the medical industry. I'd highly doubt as a collective they'd be sceptical of scientific/medical research.

2. The ones that are sceptical, well, they probably should find another industry anyway. Could you image a pilot who differing beliefs to the field of aerodynamics? Would you trust them with your life?

3. I'd say the biggest problem was isolation/staff being sick due to covid. This is a direct knock on effect of covid becoming out of control. Keeping any infectious disease out of hospitals is a fucking hug priority. So it's not ideal, but absolutely needed.

Anyway.....

'Case closed'

sypkan wrote:

"...Only to watch it fall apart in July 2021 thanks to NSW.

Dunno about you but it would've been great for NSW to keep covid in their state during the June to September period or whatever it was. Really didn't need a lockdown all last winter?"

missing your lockdown winter 2022 already?

all butt hurt you don't get to dictate night time curfews and how and when people can work and live? ... all while you draw a full salary from the public purse for tinkering at home on your laptop...

2 years of lockdown is just never enough is it?

for some...

fukn unbelievable!

What are you on about? I don't want or think we need anymore lockdowns at all for covid?

Stok wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

Well said, honestly it was such a relief when it got out of control in NSW, Dan would have been quite happy to continue with lockdowns for god knows how long, the guy is power hungry and dangerous.

Thank god we have now actually progressed and joined the world in having more personal freedoms and being able to travel again etc.

Far out ID, you have some pretty sane takes on things but then you just roll out stuff which shows how manipulated by the Murdoch crew you really are.

VicLab always made it clear when vaccinations hit their targets we'd open up, and they did.

Labour, and Dan Andrews have actually performed well by managing expectations and not over promising. The idiot anti Labour press pounced on this and screamed 'Tyrant! He wants control forever!'. Complete BS. In a scenario such as this, where one can't accurately predict the future, having a more conservative outlook is realistic. Saying 'We need to stay locked down until we have this under control' is better than, 'Don't worry guys, I'm sure we'll be ok in a week, let's aim to open up then.'

One thing that did occur is it did give us the kick up the arse needed, as Flollo said. But that had nothing to do with Dan, and everything to do with NSW letting covid leak into our state.

Just curious , when did the ALP change to the Labour Party ? Anyone know? Anyone ? Bueller ?

One thing I've found amusing with the whole polarisation/debate side of things, is how the right and far right are treating this as a 'fight against tyranny'. This is certainly different to the modus operandi. People are saying stuff which just isn't true - dictators, authoritarianism, losing all your freedoms etc. etc.

On the left however, sure there's the usual politicking and mud slinging here and there, but there's no 'OMG the sky will fall down unless we get a left wing leader in!'. Noted the left are being quite reactive to the right and far right's attempt to destabilising things, but they're not leading the charge here, they're being reactive.

Generally, particularly in Aus, the differences between the right and left major parties on covid are not hugely different.

"Alana_a wrote:

Oh ok, so you thought it was possible to be COVID free in Victoria. I rest my case.

Haha! I love a good Lionel Hutz reference!

Well, it was possible. We had it late 2020, early 2021, and mid 2021. The rest of Aus had it...."

and then...

"What are you on about? I don't want or think we need anymore lockdowns at all for covid?"

you're all over the shop

or just plain delusional

"One thing I've found amusing with the whole polarisation/debate side of things, is how the right and far right are treating this as a 'fight against tyranny'. This is certainly different to the modus operandi. People are saying stuff which just isn't true - dictators, authoritarianism, losing all your freedoms etc. etc...."

delusional and all over the shop...

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-neoliberal-war-on-dissent-in?utm_so...

maybe just incredibly incredibly ignorant...

as well?

"One thing I've found amusing with the whole polarisation/debate side of things, is how the right and far right are treating this as a 'fight against tyranny'. This is certainly different to the modus operandi. People are saying stuff which just isn't true - dictators, authoritarianism, losing all your freedoms etc. etc."
Het stok, the most interesting thing is, as covid restriction ease the alt-right get more and more unhinged. Canada, Canberra, Wellington. Surely they should be out celebrating, and claiming "victory" rather than trying to overthrow tyrannical govts.
This mob, aren't about achieving results. It's all about the fight, keeping the gang together, and keeping the grift going. Look at the cooked crew on here. They are getting what they want but the whinging just gets louder and louder. They are finding problems for their solutions.
Oh and that fat bastard Palmer has covid like symptoms. Karma writ large.

udo wrote:

Cheers Robo...i thought you were just making shit up again.....do you have any Figures on Unjabbed Arrivals that entered the country yesterday...?
All good fully stocked here with those items
And yourself and Team SAO lets not run out of Nibbles now eh ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soggy_biscuit

I saw the story about the arrivals on a morning show yesterday, they were doing it from outside the new Melbourne quarantine centre, reporter said there was 10 unvaxed coming in yesterday. believe it or not.

Here you go ludo, don't you know how to use google, just type in Melbourne quarantine centre taking unvaxed travellers. or are you just being a smart arse.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10530257/Covid-Australia-Inside...

tell me straight vicvocal...

you honestly see no issue with trudeau freezing bank accounts?

you honestly think it is not a step too far to control which political causes people may support through gofundme etc.?

you're right restrictions are winding back, but there have been some serious lines crossed to get to this point

I never ever thought i would see the day, when the peope like the trucker protestors would actually have their bank accounts frozen in any western country at all, but here we are...

unlike you, I don't give a shit about their politics, its the precedent set that is the problem...

it is a scary road western governments are heading down

already down that road, and clowns like you are cheering it on

You gotta laugh at the triple jabbed being scared of the unvaxed, my aunts brother who is boosterd up, won't go near her and husband and 99 year old father incase he gets covid off them cause they are unvaxed.
Some People are just brain washed sheep.

Stok wrote:

Alana_a wrote:

Oh ok, so you thought it was possible to be COVID free in Victoria. I rest my case.

Haha! I love a good Lionel Hutz reference!

Well, it was possible. We had it late 2020, early 2021, and mid 2021. The rest of Aus had it.

As for your other comment:

"In your opinion stok would it then of gotten so out of hand if so many nurses/ doctors didn’t quit/ be told they weren’t allowed on site?"

I really don't know the answer to this, but I have the following thoughts:
1. I don't really believe that many nurses/doctors quit. I'm sure some did, but nurses/doctors are smart, and work alongside very smart people. In the medical industry. I'd highly doubt as a collective they'd be sceptical of scientific/medical research.

2. The ones that are sceptical, well, they probably should find another industry anyway. Could you image a pilot who differing beliefs to the field of aerodynamics? Would you trust them with your life?

3. I'd say the biggest problem was isolation/staff being sick due to covid. This is a direct knock on effect of covid becoming out of control. Keeping any infectious disease out of hospitals is a fucking hug priority. So it's not ideal, but absolutely needed.

Anyway.....

'Case closed'

Thanks for answering stok. I appreciate what you put out there

Golly Robo..10 unvaxxed came in ...
Out of 15 international Flights......
shows how many are Travellers are fully Vaxxed eh..?
Out of your 10 unvaxxed...all Medically Exempt one would think ?

udo wrote:

Golly Robo..10 unvaxxed came in ...
Out of 15 international Flights......
shows how many are Travellers are fully Vaxxed eh..?
Out of your 10 unvaxxed...all Medically Exempt one would think ?

yes there is a lot of stupid people out there ludo

Robo wrote:

You gotta laugh at the triple jabbed being scared of the unvaxed, my aunts brother who is boosterd up, won't go near her and husband and 99 year old father incase he gets covid off them cause they are unvaxed.
Some People are just brain washed sheep.

Oh stop goating the brain washed sheep robo.

Robo wrote:

udo wrote:

Golly Robo..10 unvaxxed came in ...
Out of 15 international Flights......
shows how many are Travellers are fully Vaxxed eh..?
Out of your 10 unvaxxed...all Medically Exempt one would think ?

yes there is a lot of stupid people out there ludo

OMG - -Yes about 3500 just on those flights alone

udo wrote:

Golly Robo..10 unvaxxed came in ...
Out of 15 international Flights......
shows how many are Travellers are fully Vaxxed eh..?
Out of your 10 unvaxxed...all Medically Exempt one would think ?

Medically exempt won’t be going to quarantine jail you peanut.

You sound like a real good boy doing everything your dictator asks. Just like a good doggy….. only not as smart

QLD no masks from March 4th, Victoria no masks (mostly) but grade 3 - 6 still need them. How do the enablers on here feel about this?

Nothing to do with science and everything to do with coercion to get the kids jabbed.

If you support this I hope you get faded on every good wave that comes your way

Where did i say they would be going to Quarantine
Robo said 10 unvaxxed came in.

The queen gets Ivavectrim for covid. ok lol

Vic Local wrote:

Robo wrote:

You gotta laugh at the triple jabbed being scared of the unvaxed, my aunts brother who is boosterd up, won't go near her and husband and 99 year old father incase he gets covid off them cause they are unvaxed.
Some People are just brain washed sheep.

Oh stop goating the brain washed sheep robo.

udo wrote:

Robo wrote:

udo wrote:

Golly Robo..10 unvaxxed came in ...
Out of 15 international Flights......
shows how many are Travellers are fully Vaxxed eh..?
Out of your 10 unvaxxed...all Medically Exempt one would think ?

yes there is a lot of stupid people out there ludo

OMG - -Yes about 3500 just on those flights alone

yep forced jabbed

Sypkan, as someone who has twice had my accounts frozen by the Australian government, in the '90's, I can say that power exists here and has for a long time.

Ivavectrim? Oh robo, are you goating people again, or on the piss? Geez I hope it's one or the other. If you're serious or sober publishing this absolute shit, there's no hope for you.

adam12 wrote:

Sypkan, as someone who has twice had my accounts frozen by the Australian government, in the '90's, I can say that power exists here and has for a long time.

Why did you get your accounts frozen ?

Imagine still making an appointment for a booster being under 60 years old thinking you’re doing it to protect the community.

udo wrote:

Where did i say they would be going to Quarantine
Robo said 10 unvaxxed came in.

Well seeming they were going to jail for 7 days that means they are un whacked.

You ok? Or has the booster made you even more stupid?

Blowin 'Why did you get your accounts frozen ?'
I was a protestor.
I protested tax assessments, long expensive story, won one lost one. They tried to bankrupt me.