COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
It's no wonder most people are so excepting to take the poison when you see all the other crap they put in their bodies, just drive past maccas/kfc and see the line ups, the processed food/drinks in their shopping trolleys, been killing themselves for years anyway, now it's come home to roost, can't even handle a cold/flu. Then rely on the drug companies to fix them all pushed by those with a skin in the game.
I'll take my chances with covid a 100 times over putting some shit in me that doesn't even work, at least if I have to take a Panadol I know it will work lol.
Under 60, only eat mostly organic food at home anyway, have eaten red meat about 5 times in 30 years, havn't smoked since a teenager, only drink organic preservative free red wine.
Have spent my whole life surfing, gym, running, swimming, triathalons, half Ironmans.
Last hospital visit was tonsils as a kid.
Start looking after yourself no one is spouting that in the MSM or from government. At least you will have a better chance with all diseases.
Anyway been fun guys, this thread is just going around in circles, don't need any more foul mouth abuse from viclocal (who should be banned but you can say whatever you want here) so I am out.
Picked up a brand new Nissan ST-X yesterday arvo so off to find a vacant beach break.
“Could” take a place in hospital. That’s the point of the asterix in my original comment. 1% of the 1% that catch it would, maybe even 5% of the 1% that catch it while visiting
But anyone “could” take up a precious hospital bed couldnt they? Even the vaxxed.
How about the Formula 1, are we canning that because of the real threat they could take up space in a hospital bed? How about Cape Fear? At some point we have to start genuinely living with it, that means stay at home if your sick, continue if your well. Same as the flu. Masks and social distancing but not banning people from our society
I concede their does need to be a compromise considering the upcoming hospitalisations wave, and I reckon Djokovic qualified with his natural immunity
Doesnt the science say natural immunity is better than everyone else’s waning vax immunity?
I just like rules that make sense, this is just a political move.
Anyway, go Rafa!!
indo-dreaming wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:shoredump wrote:The solution isn’t to lock Novax out, it’s to open the borders to all whether they are vaxxed or not. The virus is here already ffs there’s nothing much* to be achieved by locking them out
*1% of the 1% that catch it during their stay will add to hospital numbers (approx)
100%
Actually i take that back I overlooked one important thing.
If unvaccinated they might not provide a risk to community, but they are at more risk of becoming sick if get Covid which could lead to them taking up a place in hospital even a ventilator.
Interesting that Victoria is still recording a much higher Covid death rate than NSW, even though NSW has had much higher Covid numbers for over 3 weeks.
The obvious reason being Victoria possibly has a higher ratio of Delta to Omicron.
However i wonder if another possible contributing factor could be vitamin D levels, the further north you go the less likely people would be of having a deficiency.
Anyway decent read:
"Victoria has fewer COVID-19 cases than New South Wales, so why are more people dying?"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/victoria-covid-deaths-compared-to...
I think because I am so bloody old that as a kid it was mandatory to have multiple vaccinations as a baby/kid against polio/dyptheria/Tuberculosis etc.....they worked , so when I look at my life and see how much dangerous shit I have survived, the risk factor doesn't really come into it for me. Also paid a bit of a price for my former lifestyle and now have some underlying health conditions , so it really wasn't a question for me to vax...but I did have the AZ as the older technology and much maligned by other big Pharma Co's....
I get it that you really looked after yourself , and yeah most of society is now suffering health conditions because of their diet/stress etc...and rely on drug fixes instead of lifestyle adjustments , so we agree that a lot of what goes on is self induced because of poor life decisions , and mass marketing of unhealthy solutions.....
Fear has become such a factor in controlling the masses , with misinformation nnow permeating every part of our life...
My journey with cancer and /Diabetes has been a very positive one ...cleaned up dite , more exercise....dropped 10 K's , surfing better than I have for years.....so all good Robo....enjoy your surf....and getting called names on a forum Like VL/Burleigh/Blowin etc....just angry fear laden insults from people we don't know....LOL!!
Robo wrote:It's no wonder most people are so excepting to take the poison when you see all the other crap they put in their bodies, just drive past maccas/kfc and see the line ups, the processed food/drinks in their shopping trolleys, been killing themselves for years anyway, now it's come home to roost, can't even handle a cold/flu. Then rely on the drug companies to fix them all pushed by those with a skin in the game.
I'll take my chances with covid a 100 times over putting some shit in me that doesn't even work, at least if I have to take a Panadol I know it will work lol.
Under 60, only eat mostly organic food at home anyway, have eaten red meat about 5 times in 30 years, havn't smoked since a teenager, only drink organic preservative free red wine.
Have spent my whole life surfing, gym, running, swimming, triathalons, half Ironmans.
Last hospital visit was tonsils as a kid.
Start looking after yourself no one is spouting that in the MSM or from government. At least you will have a better chance with all diseases.
Anyway been fun guys, this thread is just going around in circles, don't need any more foul mouth abuse from viclocal (who should be banned but you can say whatever you want here) so I am out.
Picked up a brand new Nissan ST-X yesterday arvo so off to find a vacant beach break.
Two more triple dosed friends now have Covid. Both have unvaccinated partners who are covid free. When are we getting Novavax and we can get off this mRna crap.
Yeah it’s a good post Robo
The “on steroids” pro vax mob that shout down the “pro health” mob are flat out wrong. There is excellent merit in lifestyle choices to fight COVID. It’s better than the vax and the stats back it up
Personally I’m about both vaccine and health
I also noticed on the Sunshine Coast that the rules are not really being enforced. Lots of people are not wearing masks or checking in with the app. I can't even get the vaccine certificate onto my phone. No-one is really taking notice of anything or seems to care.
Appears to be just lip service and appearances from govts now.
Given the lack of enforcing, mixed messaging, fluid and arbitrary rules environment, and lack of anyone behind the wheel, I think we're now in a situation of using our own wits, common sense, judgement and thinking for ourselves to look after ourselves and stay safe, without relying on govts or even taking much notice of what they're saying.
I think a combination of getting vaccinated and healthy lifestyle choices, and taking personal and social responsibility, is very important right now and probably a good approach.
I hope everyone and their families stay safe and pull through this challenging period relatively unscathed.
I hope Australia has the courage to keep pushing through to the other side of this and we pull it off.
gsco wrote:I also noticed on the Sunshine Coast that the rules are not really being enforced. Lots of people are not wearing masks or checking in with the app. I can't even get the vaccine certificate onto my phone. No-one is really taking notice of anything or seems to care.
Appears to be just lip service and appearances from govts now.
Given the lack of enforcing, mixed messaging, fluid and arbitrary rules environment, and lack of anyone behind the wheel, I think we're now in a situation of using our own wits, common sense, judgement and thinking for ourselves to look after ourselves and stay safe, without relying on govts or even taking much notice of what they're saying.
I think a combination of getting vaccinated and healthy lifestyle choices, and taking personal and social responsibility, is very important right now and probably a good approach.
I hope everyone and their families stay safe and pull through this challenging period relatively unscathed.
I hope Australia has the courage to keep pushing through to the other side of this and we pull it off.
No one is checking apart from pubs owned by Woolworths or Coles.
Why would anyone turn away customers based on a discriminating law to punish people that didn’t partake in an MRNA experiment. Especially now when it’s proven to not stop the spread.
Vaccination in Australia is voluntary, always has been.
You do what’s best for you, I have no problem with that, the problem I do have is people being forced, Drs being silenced and the cover up of adverse reactions.
Don’t get me started on 5 - 11 year olds. If ANYONE takes their healthy kid to get vaccinated looking at what’s happening you should be charged with child abuse. If you’re vaccinated you’re “protected” don’t force your kid into an experiment when they only have a mild cold
Burleigh, vaccination was mandatory , all of us had to be vaccinated for TB/polio/smallpox...lined up at School and had first skin test then the Jab.........it worked!
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdi3...
So much still unknown.
Male athletes under 40 may be conflicted.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full
Should be ok. We think.
"But additional research is needed".
Girls concern this time.
https://scitechdaily.com/nih-study-covid-19-vaccination-associated-with-...
Should be all sweet for pre pubescent girls too ay? Only one way to find out !
brutus wrote:Burleigh, vaccination was mandatory , all of us had to be vaccinated for TB/polio/smallpox...lined up at School and had first skin test then the Jab.........it worked!
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdi3...
@brutus , the big concern for a lot of parents including myself is not so much vaccines in general but mRNA vaccines. Protein based vaccines are far safer ( as far as reactions ) but in Australia at the moment we don’t get that choice . There’s no way my kid who is 5 and healthy is going to be part of Pfizer’s experiment. Real world data coming through is very different to what Pfizer”s trials said .
Another report. Bloody tinfoilers.
Israel 7 national news headline.
"Heart inflammation risk rises dramatically for young with booster shots".
Interesting how a female tennis player entered oz unvaxed for covid. Same excuse as Novak. Given all clear. Couple warm ups at the venue. Good to go. Then the political stunt. Now she’s detained also…
We probably missed this in 2016.
The man behind Moderna.
That would be Mr "Boosters forever" man.
://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/
Decent video.
Please note: the views contained in the video are not necessarily the views of myself the poster, the video is posted for interest and discussion only, please consult a registered doctor for any medical advice on Covid.
I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
indo-dreaming wrote:Decent video.
Please note: the views contained in the video are not necessarily the views of myself the poster, the video is posted for interest and discussion only, please consult a registered doctor for any medical advice on Covid.
Haha love your disclaimer indo , I watched this a few days ago and it was interesting to hear what he had to say around schools and kids . This is the same guy that bagged the Rogan McCullough podcast , he did agree with some things but overall gave him a thumbs down. I would like to see him bring McCullough onto his podcast and challenge him , it’s what’s needed,open debate . Maybe have Rogan as the referee.
frog wrote:I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
The original was hardly the Bubonic Plague for those outside the main target demographic and now?
Probably more risk from a booster...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10358361/Omicron-nearly-100-TIM...
frog wrote:I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
because one wasn't cooked up in a lab?
correction... because one evolved naturally after maybe not being cooked up in a lab?
Im not talking about me btw, but the hard core anti-vaxxers are clearly on some nature trip... be that a hypocritical hippy one.... or a 'fuck you jack' im an ocd calorie counting fitness freak and you should all just live like me because I said so...
I feel and and respect both these positions above... a bit...
but I am neither
I am also vaxxed, as I weighed up the risk / benefit analysis, and figured Im happy with the risk... (of non mrna vaccines)
however, I do not believe the virus justifies mandatory vaccines and what has clearly been a huge overeaction generally
a huge overeaction powered by some very unscientific method, and very undemocratic even authoritarian practices...
as the 'truth' of the vaccines, and the convoluted marketing speak 'efficacy' of them now slowly seeps out... the piles of bullshit are only getting higher...
in my recent circumstances - living through a pretty significant virus surge in virus riddled shit hole hot spot - I would probably still take the vaccine if I hadn't already
but, with the bullshit that is flying around now... ie. we are expected to sign up to a never ending revolving door of (negligable) 3 monthly boosters, for a virus clearly waning in virility... hence making mandatory vaccines and all associated bullshit even less justified...
I am super suss and totally not on board... it's all just sounding like a dumb dog desperately chasing its tail now
Im willing to take my chances with the (new) virus and natural immunity.... as Im pretty sure I have had it anyway, and natural immunity seems the best defense... for most people...
frog wrote:I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say because the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting Covid? So putting an experimental toxin in your body when you’re fit and healthy is really not very smart.
indo-dreaming wrote:Decent video.
Please note: the views contained in the video are not necessarily the views of myself the poster, the video is posted for interest and discussion only, please consult a registered doctor for any medical advice on Covid.
Yep. Good video.
Omicron has moved so far and so fast a whole rethink of approach and perspective is required for everyone.
Fortunately, rapid replication in the upper airways is good for the virus (to out compete other variants) and seems much better for humans than dwelling deeper in the lungs.
It may be so effective at spreading and creating immunity of sorts that all the debate on policy masks, lockdowns and vaccines becomes redundant.
We may get what we all want - normality - thanks to natural selection.
burleigh wrote:frog wrote:I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say because the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting Covid? So putting an experimental toxin in your body when you’re fit and healthy is really not very smart.
So if two neutralised spike proteins are "toxins", what are 27 live ones - super duper 27 times worse toxins?
One logic follows the other.
Omicron seems to be less impacted by the vaccines as it is upper airways focussed - more superficially tissue involvement than earlier variants in the deep lung zone. So the game has shifted a lot but only very recently.
The vaccine mantra may well fade in the light an overwhelming transmission level and milder symptoms but it served a purpose for its time.
frog wrote:burleigh wrote:frog wrote:I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say because the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting Covid? So putting an experimental toxin in your body when you’re fit and healthy is really not very smart.
So if two neutralised spike proteins are "toxins", what are 27 live ones - super duper 27 times worse toxins?
One logic follows the other.
Omicron seems to be less impacted by the vaccines as it is upper airways - more superficially tissue involvement than deep lungs. So the game has shifted but only very recently.
In the face of zero fact, I’m guessing burleigh will again take a wild guess. Lol.
Hi Supafreak.....I am actually with you on vaccines for Kids...and even have my doubts on Pfizer now. Had a surf yesterday with one of my friends who happens to one of Australia's best surgeons, worked all over the World , very educated man, and complete socialist. When I told him I had 2 x AZ's and Moderna booster...he actually said well ate least you got the AZ and the Moderna has 3 times the anti-bodies than Pfizer...I asked him about kids , and he said that unless kids had underlying health problems.....no vaccines...and yes the Mrna vaccines were effective against Delta...but now the jury's out on Omicron....spoke to my daughter this morning she has 2 healthy kids 7 & 4....no need to vaccinate them!
Supafreak wrote:brutus wrote:Burleigh, vaccination was mandatory , all of us had to be vaccinated for TB/polio/smallpox...lined up at School and had first skin test then the Jab.........it worked!
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdi3...
@brutus , the big concern for a lot of parents including myself is not so much vaccines in general but mRNA vaccines. Protein based vaccines are far safer ( as far as reactions ) but in Australia at the moment we don’t get that choice . There’s no way my kid who is 5 and healthy is going to be part of Pfizer’s experiment. Real world data coming through is very different to what Pfizer”s trials said .
Roadkill wrote:frog wrote:burleigh wrote:frog wrote:I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say because the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting Covid? So putting an experimental toxin in your body when you’re fit and healthy is really not very smart.
So if two neutralised spike proteins are "toxins", what are 27 live ones - super duper 27 times worse toxins?
One logic follows the other.
Omicron seems to be less impacted by the vaccines as it is upper airways - more superficially tissue involvement than deep lungs. So the game has shifted but only very recently.
In the face of zero fact, I’m guessing burleigh will again take a wild guess. Lol.
Like the experts over the last 2 years.
You can’t make this shit up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-om...
So the known side effect of the vaccine is now a side effect of the virus killing 2 x 30 year olds.
I’ll bet that the unvaccinated man had recently had a jab, but within 28 days (or whatever it is) to be classed as un jabbed
A mild side effect when it’s from the jab but deadly when it’s from Covid.
Every single person that has taken the jab has been fooled.
Grow some balls, admit you have been conned and get on the right side of history.
Thanks for that video Indo.
Good one.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:frog wrote:burleigh wrote:frog wrote:I still don't get how the vax worriers think a vaccine with two "neutralised" spike proteins can be worse than covid with 27 fully active spike proteins.
If you don't like the two why so comfortable on getting the 27 live and kicking spikes with no predeveloped immunity?
Explain that logically anyone?
I expect to get covid but think a small taster beforehand can't be worse than the real thing.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say because the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting Covid? So putting an experimental toxin in your body when you’re fit and healthy is really not very smart.
So if two neutralised spike proteins are "toxins", what are 27 live ones - super duper 27 times worse toxins?
One logic follows the other.
Omicron seems to be less impacted by the vaccines as it is upper airways - more superficially tissue involvement than deep lungs. So the game has shifted but only very recently.
In the face of zero fact, I’m guessing burleigh will again take a wild guess. Lol.
Like the experts over the last 2 years.
Answer the question or admit you have nfi how to answer.
grow some balls ?? so people who have had the jab are fools and you think you are on the right side of history, just like you claimed there has never been mandatory vaccinations.......maybe you are right , the whole world is wrong ?
burleigh wrote:You can’t make this shit up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-om...
So the known side effect of the vaccine is now a side effect of the virus killing 2 x 30 year olds.
I’ll bet that the unvaccinated man had recently had a jab, but within 28 days (or whatever it is) to be classed as un jabbed
A mild side effect when it’s from the jab but deadly when it’s from Covid.
Every single person that has taken the jab has been fooled.
Grow some balls, admit you have been conned and get on the right side of history.
burleigh wrote:You can’t make this shit up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-om...
So the known side effect of the vaccine is now a side effect of the virus killing 2 x 30 year olds.
I’ll bet that the unvaccinated man had recently had a jab, but within 28 days (or whatever it is) to be classed as un jabbed
A mild side effect when it’s from the jab but deadly when it’s from Covid.
Every single person that has taken the jab has been fooled.
Grow some balls, admit you have been conned and get on the right side of history.
We're on an internet forum but shit, mate. Have some fucking decency. It's not for us mere medical mortals to speculate as to the exact cause of death.
aaron61 wrote:We probably missed this in 2016.
The man behind Moderna.
That would be Mr "Boosters forever" man.
://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/
I actually posted that link a few months back aaron but keep them coming please you have put some good ones up . The Israel one was good . This MD MPH explains the paper in your Israel link .
frog wrote:So if two neutralised spike proteins are "toxins", what are 27 live ones - super duper 27 times worse toxins?
One logic follows the other.
Crickets...
tbb owes apology for NSW cases not decreasing...
There is a major bump in this week's Data due to RATS.
VIc / NSW / Qld maybe others are midway switching to RATS.
Covid infected have been leaking & holding onto Home Results until online reporting
Today's Vic shock Example : 51, 356 cases is definitely not their Daily Total
Important! Do not buy into this rubbery figure!
Relax Victoria...this is simply another RAT plague!
Explanation!
Approx 50% are open Daily cases + another 5,000/ Home daily cases (RATZ) approx!
How so!
Because Victorians have been self reporting RAT Data since the start of the Week but kept on hold.
As tbb said...reporting yes! But not added to Daily cases until today.
Why today! Only today did Vic Rats come online...hence today's 25,000 RAT infestation.
(re: Qld can also report RATs from today...NSW mid next week!)
As with Vic ...many might be delaying reporting until Online open day.
We could see bumps tomorrow for Qld + NSW mid next week...so, account for that!
So Wotz Vic's real Daily Total for Today (Sat 8th Jan)
(Drumroll) = (Approx) 27, 000 cases...( eg: Tomorrow Vic should drop a lot > Not a cure! Nope! )
Happy to share!
Looking at the US and their mandates for university students and possibly military, many who are in the age bracket that has highest rate of myocarditis makes me think WTF. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-31/n-y-requires-boosters.... https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/12/10/pentagon-considering-covi...
scary and irony on steroids
https://m.
&feature=emb_title 11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Sssssshhhh, it disarms the narrative.
Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Plenty of doctors now saying different , why use a vaccine that can cause it when there are other safer vaccines ? Australia is locked in to mRNA ….. Why ?
Supafreak wrote:Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Plenty of doctors now saying different , why use a vaccine that can cause it when there are other safer vaccines ? Australia is locked in to mRNA ….. Why ?
FLCCC/Joe Rogan doctors don't count. Nor does Vinay Prasad, who is being heavily criticised by fellow MDs for his recklessness.
tomrnoir wrote:Supafreak wrote:Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Plenty of doctors now saying different , why use a vaccine that can cause it when there are other safer vaccines ? Australia is locked in to mRNA ….. Why ?
FLCCC/Joe Rogan doctors don't count. Nor does Vinay Prasad, who is being heavily criticised by fellow MDs for his recklessness.
Wrong.
Omnicron is weaker than Delta remember.
"An association between COVID-19 infection and myocarditis was observed in all ages for both sexes but was substantially higher in those older than 40 years. These findings have important implications".
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full
Is there a doctor in the house?
Ouch.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BreesAnna/status/1479563271032213508?s=09
So roadkill you again skipped my question, at least you’re consistent. And very interesting that doctors that actually treat patients don’t count . The games changed roadkill, omicron is different , you can’t base everything from the previous varients and apply it to omicron .
SF, imagine how many doses of Mrna Moderna/Pfizer the Govt has bought...well all govts....and now Omicron looks like she' developed an immunity.....I was blown way when I went get my booster there was an AZ booster....old tech......did you know there was an AZ booster?
Supafreak wrote:Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Plenty of doctors now saying different , why use a vaccine that can cause it when there are other safer vaccines ? Australia is locked in to mRNA ….. Why ?
brutus wrote:SF, imagine how many doses of Mrna Moderna/Pfizer the Govt has bought...well all govts....and now Omicron looks like she' developed an immunity.....I was blown way when I went get my booster there was an AZ booster....old tech......did you know there was an AZ booster?
Supafreak wrote:Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Plenty of doctors now saying different , why use a vaccine that can cause it when there are other safer vaccines ? Australia is locked in to mRNA ….. Why ?
Yes Brutus AZ as a booster is listed on the oz government website, it’s for those that had bad reactions to the mRNA , overall they recommended the mRNA as booster . In a leaked document from a South American country ( I think ) in the ‘ secret ‘ contracts with governments, if a cure is found for covid, the contracts still stand and no cancellations of orders. Petrovsky vaccine and novavax have submitted their vaccines to the TGA and even if they pass with flying colours it’s still up to the government what vaccines we get . Petrovsky has said he has made a vaccine for every varient so far and is currently making one specifically for omicron .
tomrnoir wrote:Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Sssssshhhh, it disarms the narrative.
You don’t think the person may had had a vaccine? Not fully vaxxed until 28 days after your second remember.
Governments and media lie, and you’re the fool who laps up the fear.
aaron61 wrote:tomrnoir wrote:Supafreak wrote:Roadkill wrote:11,174 new cases in QLD. 2 deaths. 1 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. Both deaths reported as myocarditis, from covid infection.
Everyone has more chance of getting myocarditis from covid than the vax.
Plenty of doctors now saying different , why use a vaccine that can cause it when there are other safer vaccines ? Australia is locked in to mRNA ….. Why ?
FLCCC/Joe Rogan doctors don't count. Nor does Vinay Prasad, who is being heavily criticised by fellow MDs for his recklessness.
Wrong.
Omnicron is weaker than Delta remember.
"An association between COVID-19 infection and myocarditis was observed in all ages for both sexes but was substantially higher in those older than 40 years. These findings have important implications".
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full
Wouldn’t bother with tomrnoir...Posts videos that are 2 years old and considers them "/relevant". Seemingly can’t answer straightforward questions, contradicts himself at each turn, nor can he remove himself from the echo chamber he currently resides in. Good to see the 20 something year old’s are refusing to think critically and discrediting medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to their respective fields as simply “people that don’t count” while demanding decency from others…same bracket as the three amigos, he has just been in incognito mode.
Here’s the relevant passages from a link provided earlier by Aaron61 (Think.Sorry I’d wrong):
“Importantly , the study found that not only were males under 40 at far higher risk for myocarditis from any of the vaccines than from COVID infection, multiple doses of all the vaccines appears to cause a cumulative effect in increasing risk for the heart inflammation condition.“
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/320052
BTW….TBB wrote a post earlier today in which he said that he was aware of crew who knew one of the unfortunate people to have died in Queensland ( 30 year old )apparently he was jabbed very recently and was not covid positive. The family is adamant it was the jab which killed him, not the virus.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia