COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Australia (Not so good news we never talk about!)
World #2 New Deaths (+17)
World #2 New deaths 0.7 / million
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
No Vax 2.32 deaths/day > Rollout 4.41 deaths/day (Rising faster with higher vax %)
The more Oz vaxes the faster we die! No! That's not a joke! It's alarming!
Vaccinated now account for 100% more deaths than non vaxed...all are too afraid to confront the truth!
https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-deaths/aus
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-ho...
Blowin wrote:Vic Local wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Craig wrote:In Sydney the lockdowns were very modest everyone was mingling and still out and about so nope, lockdowns didn't get rid of Delta. They slowed it but the vaccines helped stamp it right down.
Seeing as the vaccines were created for the initial virus, they did well against the Delta variant but seem to be way less effective for Omicron. Add in the much greater transmissivity of the virus regardless of vaccines etc and that's why it's spreading like wild fire. IMO.
That is not opinion, Craig. That is fact.
So don’t you think it’s absolute madness that premiers and experts are still promoting to get vaccinated to protect the community?
RK glad you think the border should not be there to QLD it’s nothing more than a political stunt now and apparently not going until QLD reaches 90% for a vaccine that does now not work.
vaccines protect the individual and also the community. fact.
vaccines do work. fact.For a healthy person under 50 the vaccine reduces the absolute chance of severe illness from covid by < 0.005% and diminishes rapidly with youthfulness.
Fact.
For Australians younger than 60 the survival rate is 99.9% minimum.
Fact.
Where the fck do you pull these stats from Blowin? And your last statement can NEVER be proven correct because 90% of the population is now vaccinated so you will never know if your wonderfully referenced factual information above is ever correct. You enjoy Blowin smoke out of your arse don't you!!!
I know where blowin the bullshit artist pulls his figures from don weather.
I will give you a hint. The correct answer starts with A, has 4 letters in it and ends in E.
Cool story bro.
Too bad I just put up a graphic from the Australian Government which backed up my statement.
Hey bloke…..shouldn’t you be trying to incite panic so you can get your hands on more sweet taxpayer cash handout contributions from your fellow Australians?
Remember yesterday when you said the Surf Coast was a CATASTROPHE so you could hope for a state of emergency declaration and you could start to resume milking your fellow Australians dry to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars?
Grift on bloke. Grift on!
Give it. rest blowin you imbecile.
The graph you put up proves your figures are still bullshit. You are still calculating death rates by ignoring people who actually died. It's laughable.
You also know there's no more business assistance for people getting financially screwed by covid. That of course doesn't stop you saying I would be claiming more tax-payer funded payouts.
Fair dinkum blowin, it's pretty obvious your New Years resolution wasn't "tell less lies."
Mcface wrote:Matilda noticed no one had responded to this. Given how heavily mutated the omicron is compared to the original virus (and other variants) it is almost certainly that it is an escape variant as you called it.
There has been some evidence to show vaccine efficacy wanes over time (more rapidly compared to other vaccines, many of which last a lifetime or only require a booster every 10 years) but the situation keeps changing to really know by just how much.
Seems the vaccines do sweet FA to prevent transmission of omicron (could be wrong though) but time will tell how effective they are regarding hospitalisation and death. One would expect there to be quite a big reduction in severe illness Vax compared to unvax. Fortunate that it is less intense than the big D but.
Given the big 3 vaccines are proven safe and billions of doses have been administered, seems crazy to me why you wouldn't roll up your sleeves especially in a pre-omicron context where the reduction in severe illness was estimated to be 93% (perhaps less important with the latest variant).
Cousins fiancée back in the uk under 30 years old with no underlying health conditions ended up in hospital for 10 days in seriously bad shape with omicron. He was unvaccinated. Just anecdotal I understand and there have been records of severe cases in vaxxed too. Not sure whether or not his position has changed on vaccination since.
Mcface I don't think your comment is up to speed with the growing shrill, complete lack of aggression, abuse, projection, certainly requires more words like fear, panic etc.
BTW I like your comment which is also a possible negative cheers.
Vic Local wrote:Blowin wrote:Vic Local wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Craig wrote:In Sydney the lockdowns were very modest everyone was mingling and still out and about so nope, lockdowns didn't get rid of Delta. They slowed it but the vaccines helped stamp it right down.
Seeing as the vaccines were created for the initial virus, they did well against the Delta variant but seem to be way less effective for Omicron. Add in the much greater transmissivity of the virus regardless of vaccines etc and that's why it's spreading like wild fire. IMO.
That is not opinion, Craig. That is fact.
So don’t you think it’s absolute madness that premiers and experts are still promoting to get vaccinated to protect the community?
RK glad you think the border should not be there to QLD it’s nothing more than a political stunt now and apparently not going until QLD reaches 90% for a vaccine that does now not work.
vaccines protect the individual and also the community. fact.
vaccines do work. fact.For a healthy person under 50 the vaccine reduces the absolute chance of severe illness from covid by < 0.005% and diminishes rapidly with youthfulness.
Fact.
For Australians younger than 60 the survival rate is 99.9% minimum.
Fact.
Where the fck do you pull these stats from Blowin? And your last statement can NEVER be proven correct because 90% of the population is now vaccinated so you will never know if your wonderfully referenced factual information above is ever correct. You enjoy Blowin smoke out of your arse don't you!!!
I know where blowin the bullshit artist pulls his figures from don weather.
I will give you a hint. The correct answer starts with A, has 4 letters in it and ends in E.
Cool story bro.
Too bad I just put up a graphic from the Australian Government which backed up my statement.
Hey bloke…..shouldn’t you be trying to incite panic so you can get your hands on more sweet taxpayer cash handout contributions from your fellow Australians?
Remember yesterday when you said the Surf Coast was a CATASTROPHE so you could hope for a state of emergency declaration and you could start to resume milking your fellow Australians dry to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars?
Grift on bloke. Grift on!
Give it. rest blowin you imbecile.
The graph you put up proves your figures are still bullshit. You are still calculating death rates by ignoring people who actually died. It's laughable.
You also know there's no more business assistance for people getting financially screwed by covid. That of course doesn't stop you saying I would be claiming more tax-payer funded payouts.
Fair dinkum blowin, it's pretty obvious your New Years resolution wasn't "tell less lies."
another liar lol, everyones a liar that doesn't agree with sirviclocal
Oh look, robo the liar is back too. He's the flog who used the tragic death of a 23 year old bloke to spread bullshit anti-vax propaganda. How low could anyone go.
You're a shit cunt robo.
QLD premier says today that although not finalised primary school kids will be delayed in returning to school for 1 - 2 weeks (when original holidays finish)
Here comes the nasty push to vaccinate your 5 - 11 year olds.
IMO it’s child abuse with absolutely nothing to gain but lots to loose.
Vic Local wrote:Oh look, robo the liar is back too. He's the flog who used the tragic death of a 23 year old bloke to spread bullshit anti-vax propaganda. How low could anyone go.
You're a shit cunt robo.
Coming for the guy who used the news of a girl getting bashed to push his agenda on anti vax protestors.
That one backfired didn’t it VicMoron? You’re as guilty as anyone.
Vic Local wrote:Oh look, robo the liar is back too. He's the flog who used the tragic death of a 23 year old bloke to spread bullshit anti-vax propaganda. How low could anyone go.
You're a shit cunt robo.
you'd be better of here with your mates you foul mouthed flog, wh even uses the C word anymore, you must be a lonely old man boomer
Robo][quote=etarip wrote:Robo wrote:Mate just rang to say he's positive, double jabbed and got it from the double jabbed only allowed at the cricket SCG.
Vaccine is working well.ok dipstick. he went the first day was sick on the second morning, stayed in his motel wife and son went to cricket, drove back to CC this morning had a rat test at home, positive.
You happy lol.
Dipstick? I’m happy with that insult. Very mild for these forums.
(Your still sure your mate couldn’t have picked it up anywhere but the cricket though…)
Telegraph UK - opinion pieces, good reads anyway:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/people-keep-getting-covi...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/06/novak-djokovic-useful-distra...
Not anti or pro vax pieces imo.
Robo wrote:Vic Local wrote:Oh look, robo the liar is back too. He's the flog who used the tragic death of a 23 year old bloke to spread bullshit anti-vax propaganda. How low could anyone go.
You're a shit cunt robo.you'd be better of here with your mates you foul mouthed flog, wh even uses the C word anymore, you must be a lonely old man boomer
C word?
Robo, have you ever read a blowin post? I notice you haven't pulled him up on the use of that word.
Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
Mcface wrote:Cousins fiancée back in the uk under 30 years old with no underlying health conditions ended up in hospital for 10 days in seriously bad shape with omicron. He was unvaccinated.
C'mon Blowin, throw us a stat/fact at this one!!!!
burleigh wrote:You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
I assume by your name you live in Qld are over the age of 16? If so, then please define "been out" cause walking down the street is not the same as going to a pub, cafe, restaurant, cinema, sporting event etc when it comes to COVID spreading.
And you'll notice I used the term "lock out" rather than "lockdown" for that exact reason. You're free to go outside and to essential services, but outside of that in Qld there's fck all you can do if you're unvaccinated at present.
donweather wrote:burleigh wrote:You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
I assume by your name you live in Qld are over the age of 16? If so, then please define "been out" cause walking down the street is not the same as going to a pub, cafe, restaurant, cinema, sporting event etc when it comes to COVID spreading.
And you'll notice I used the term "lock out" rather than "lockdown" for that exact reason. You're free to go outside and to essential services, but outside of that in Qld there's fck all you can do if you're unvaccinated at present.
To quote you “ Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising”
I’ve been to numerous cafes and even restaurants, major shopping centres, Bunnings several times, my life hasn’t changed.
If you believe that going to the pub (really the only thing you can’t do) is causing the transmission then you need to re-assess.
As I said, stick to surf forecasting, you’re good at it.
On the topic of dogs, ABC has just gone full next level on covid craziness by publishing an article reassuring us that our dogs will survive and even thrive if (when?) humans become extinct.
They even seem to be advocating the idea:
Hahaha.
well burleigh, you're lucky there are lots of vaccinated and masked people around you keeping you safe.
I take it you're not a student of social contract theory and the concept of the free rider?
chook wrote:well burleigh, you're lucky there are lots of vaccinated and masked people around you keeping you safe.
I take it you're not a student of social contract theory and the concept of the free rider?
Don’t ever rely on other people to keep you safe Chook. Quickest way to failure
In South Africa most people had no idea how they caught Omicron. Obviously the socialisers were fastest but the stay at home, mask up, be careful, types seemed to catch it too.
One stat i read is that 1 in 30 people in their 20s in Australia has it already.
It is coming your way and soon.
Roadkill wrote:I think it's time that qld border is removed. A waste of police resources now.
Totally agree.
donweather wrote:Mcface wrote:Cousins fiancée back in the uk under 30 years old with no underlying health conditions ended up in hospital for 10 days in seriously bad shape with omicron. He was unvaccinated.
C'mon Blowin, throw us a stat/fact at this one!!!!
Shit happens. There’s always going to be a few. But the exception proves the rule. You know how many Australians under 50 have died in two years of covid? 80.
That’s nothing to be laughed at but it is something to fully take the wind out
of your indiscriminate carnage doom fantasy.
Young people die of dementia too but you’re not panicking about that.
Guaranteed that more healthy young people in Australia get fucked up by dengue after Bali trips than end up stuffed by the virus. Are you locking yourself at home whilst triple nappy’d because of dengue?
frog wrote:Video below.
1. Suggests omicron evolved in mice and that we may have got lucky in that it evolved to be less harmful and seems likely to displace other variants and create rapid community immunity.
2. Mentions an anecdotal report from South Africa said it just flew through the country in one month to both vaccinated and unvaccinated.
- people often had no idea where or how they caught it (even those not out and about much caught it) - super contagious.
- people getting not much affect or equivalent of bad cold with severe body aches.
- assume vaccination helped with symptoms but not clear on that.The virus is playing its own fast paced game and cares nothing about experts or even previously successful strategies to contain it. It can be slowed and effects modified but it will do what it wants and fast.
Omicron could be the fastest new "vaccine" we will all get. Might end the vax debate!?
The peak will be in weeks, not months.
Watched this today, love his videos.
The mice things sounds far fetched but could end up being true, it was a peer reviewed paper too.
indo-dreaming wrote:frog wrote:Video below.
1. Suggests omicron evolved in mice and that we may have got lucky in that it evolved to be less harmful and seems likely to displace other variants and create rapid community immunity.
2. Mentions an anecdotal report from South Africa said it just flew through the country in one month to both vaccinated and unvaccinated.
- people often had no idea where or how they caught it (even those not out and about much caught it) - super contagious.
- people getting not much affect or equivalent of bad cold with severe body aches.
- assume vaccination helped with symptoms but not clear on that.The virus is playing its own fast paced game and cares nothing about experts or even previously successful strategies to contain it. It can be slowed and effects modified but it will do what it wants and fast.
Omicron could be the fastest new "vaccine" we will all get. Might end the vax debate!?
The peak will be in weeks, not months.
Watched this today, love his videos.
The mice things sounds far fetched but could end up being true, it was a peer reviewed paper too.
Watched this one, like his videos.
Fark I hope he is correct and by May Covid is done or rare ..
Wishful thinking maybe...
Indo, agree his vids are interesting and very balanced.
Mice are totally a possible host for the missing period where the mutations occurred. In poor areas they live everywhere in wall cavities etc and have numbers and concentrated living conditions to make covid very happy. Soweto...
In New York ghettos the interiors of walls are often full of decades of thick crystallised mouse urine. Yum.
“We are Canadian lawyers. In our country, civil liberties are under unprecedented attack. Governments, public health authorities, universities, public and private employers, municipalities, and businesses are trampling Canadians’ rights and freedoms. Our free society is at risk.
Covid rules restrict citizens’ abilities to work, shop, travel and socialize. They erode civil liberties strategically, attempting to not run afoul of the law or to trigger protections in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms such as liberty and security of the person, the freedoms of association, assembly, expression, conscience, religion, and mobility rights. Where Covid rules appear to have violated the Charter, courts have deferred to the state to take whatever measures it deems necessary, whether demonstrably justifiable or not.
Legislatures have passed statutes that delegate broad discretionary powers to unelected public health officials, who then create draconian legal restrictions by fiat, without public scrutiny or open debate. These directives give private and public employers cover to suspend and dismiss workers who insist on their right to decide their own medical treatments. In our system of law, no principle is more important than the right to control your own body and to make your own medical and health decisions. An anxious populace, swept up in a deliberate campaign of fear, now believes that individual liberties upon which our liberal democracy is founded are dangerous and selfish. A growing collectivism that demands safety at the expense of autonomy shapes public policy.
Courts have embraced the pandemic narrative, some taking judicial notice of the nature of risks of the virus and safety of vaccines to adults and children. But the facts are anything but settled. Courts are supposed to be neutral. On Covid, as on any other contentious subject, their mandate is to find facts exclusively upon the evidence adduced by the parties in the courtroom. Instead, courts appear to have taken a side on Covid. Access to justice and the rule of law are now at risk. Unvaccinated persons are banned from juries, throwing into question the ability of all to obtain a fair trial heard by a jury of their peers. Irrational policies born of panic affect no one more than disadvantaged communities who already suffer from lack of access to justice.
The right to privacy and control of personal medical information has been abandoned. Disclosure of vaccination status is becoming a requirement for working, travelling, entering public and private establishments, crossing the border, and sometimes medical treatment. Those who cannot or will not disclose face aggressive social disapprobation. Vaccine passports create the infrastructure for a global digital surveillance system. Institutions that last year were prohibited from collecting individual medical history now demand it as a condition of employment or admission. University and college students are being denied their education for refusing to disclose their own medical choices.
Medical regulators have become dictatorial. They have warned doctors not to express medical opinions that might conflict with official Covid policies, effectively censoring them, and directed them not to certify grounds for medical exemptions from vaccination requirements, rupturing the physician-patient relationship and breaching the principle that only a practitioner who has examined a patient is equipped to give a diagnosis. Human rights commissions, which until recently championed expansive interpretations of human rights, have issued edicts narrowing grounds for accommodations.
Covid rules are inconsistent and irrational. Authorities enforce them selectively and preferentially, coming down hard on common people while turning a blind eye to the privileged. Covid vaccines do not prevent people from becoming infected or from transmitting the virus to others, but only unvaccinated persons are banned or required to undergo testing. People who have recovered from Covid and therefore have natural immunity are still subject to vaccination mandates even though the purpose of vaccination is to mimic natural immunity. Governments, public health authorities and employers advise that Covid vaccinations are safe, but pharmaceutical companies have been granted immunity from liability and no employers will accept legal responsibility for side-effects or adverse events, whether minor or serious, suffered by their employees who take a vaccine that they do not want. The risks posed by Covid vaccines may be in dispute, but they are not zero. Particularly for children and healthy young adults, they may be riskier than the virus.
We fear the erosion of our free society. We question the single-minded fixation on a virus that poses little risk to most people. We protest the uncalculated harms that Covid policies are causing to people’s health, livelihoods, relationships, and mental states. We oppose the mass hysteria and anxiety that governments and the media are fuelling. Most of all, we object to the deterioration of our civil liberties and the failure of our legal institutions – legislatures, governments, administrative bodies, and courts – to protect them.
We are appalled by what is happening in our country. We call for the immediate end of vaccine passports and mandates. We propose a public inquiry into the handling of all aspects of the declared pandemic. Canadians should have control of their own lives and have the right to make their own decisions about their health, medical treatments, personal information, travels, and associations. Canada is supposed to be a free country governed by the rule of law. Restore it now or risk losing it for good.”
Is Canada gonna snap out of it?
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/worst-week-since-delta-spendi...
consumers withdraw and business suffers
there's been some eyebrow raising situations locally, and some venues are open one day, closed the next
burleigh wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
If he said it was raining you’d have to go outside and check
donweather wrote:burleigh wrote:You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
I assume by your name you live in Qld are over the age of 16? If so, then please define "been out" cause walking down the street is not the same as going to a pub, cafe, restaurant, cinema, sporting event etc when it comes to COVID spreading.
And you'll notice I used the term "lock out" rather than "lockdown" for that exact reason. You're free to go outside and to essential services, but outside of that in Qld there's fck all you can do if you're unvaccinated at present.
That means 10,000 vaccinated got it today and spreading it around, if i was in QLD I would be staying away from the vaccinated if doing essential shopping.
Vaccinated people should have something hanging around their neck so those that decided not to take the poison can avoid them, mark of the beast stuff if you know about that.
Let’s see viclocal blow his lid over that one lol
Robo wrote:burleigh wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
If he said it was raining you’d have to go outside and check
Donweather is a really good forecaster and someone i have seen in forums for a LONG time (burleighcam days) however his covid logic is way off.
Matilda noticed no one had responded to this. Given how heavily mutated the omicron is compared to the original virus (and other variants) it is almost certainly that it is an escape variant as you called it.
There has been some evidence to show vaccine efficacy wanes over time (more rapidly compared to other vaccines, many of which last a lifetime or only require a booster every 10 years) but the situation keeps changing to really know by just how much.
Seems the vaccines do sweet FA to prevent transmission of omicron (could be wrong though) but time will tell how effective they are regarding hospitalisation and death. One would expect there to be quite a big reduction in severe illness Vax compared to unvax. Fortunate that it is less intense than the big D but.
Given the big 3 vaccines are proven safe and billions of doses have been administered, seems crazy to me why you wouldn't roll up your sleeves especially in a pre-omicron context where the reduction in severe illness was estimated to be 93% (perhaps less important with the latest variant).
Cousins fiancée back in the uk under 30 years old with no underlying health conditions ended up in hospital for 10 days in seriously bad shape with omicron. He was unvaccinated. Just anecdotal I understand and there have been records of severe cases in vaxxed too. Not sure whether or not his position has changed on vaccination since.
Thanks Mcface its all very interesting and somewhat depressing the mental state of humanity. This forum is a good representation of it, so damn polarising. I'm 29 had delta over christmas and it was very mild for me i had a little fever and a cough for a few days then was good as gold luckily just in time for Seth. Weirdest thing was losing my smell for a few days pretty trippy but it came back. Hope your cousins fiancee doesnt have any long lasting effects.
"if i was in QLD I would be staying away from the vaccinated if doing essential shopping."
That's because you have absolute shit for brains robo.
I've sent things through a P trap with more critical thinking skills than you have.
seriously Robo...because you have been out and not caught Covid , means nothing.....it's like me saying I beat cancer 3 times so therefore cancer is totally beatable.....as over 90 % of people are vaccinated and Omicron has mutated where vaccines are less effective.....unvaccinated people have been not allowed to socialize like vaccinated.....all this is now a few weeks old...
vaccination was very effective against delta..over 60 %....over 90% for the first Covid..and now less again....
burleigh wrote:Robo wrote:burleigh wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
If he said it was raining you’d have to go outside and check
Donweather is a really good forecaster and someone i have seen in forums for a LONG time (burleighcam days) however his covid logic is way off.
Some sobering reading about the consequences of ignoring the experts and having an ideologue in charge of things. Perrottet should be tapped on the shoulder and told to stand down.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/07/dominic-perrottet...
Here's a vignette from inside Victoria's hospitals at present:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/daily-struggle-to-fill-shift...
Can we ring the bell on health system overload forecaster? Sage, as they say on the chans. Fwiw peak hospitalisations are projected today as being late Jan/early Feb.
Vic Local wrote:Some sobering reading about the consequences of ignoring the experts and having an ideologue in charge of things. Perrottet should be tapped on the shoulder and told to stand down.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/07/dominic-perrottet...
“While unvaccinated people make up only about 5% of people over the age of 16 that cohort remains over-represented among the 134 Covid patients in intensive care”
So Vicmoron, it’s gone from 94% to “over-represented” of unjabbed in ICU. If it was still a large percentage they would be screaming it at us.
Only 5% unvaccinated with over 100k positive cases in the last three days, I would say your vaccine that you were told prevents transmission is faulty.
/relevant
3 Central Goldie Vax stories from tbb's isolated world.
Skin Cancer Clinic demanded tbb reveal Vax Status before booking an appointment.
Dr Vax bashes tbb about gettin' the shot...see ya in the New Year.
Yesterday...tbb phones to double check for next week's bout with the "Mad Vax Doctor!" (*Good bloke!)
Clinic's Reply:
"Sorry! Your appointment is cancelled coz yer Doctor has come down with Covid!"
(tbb passed on best wishes!)
Recently confirmed 4th attempt at Hospital Sleep Wing...asked if it was still OK?
Nurse says why wouldn't be!
tbb : "Well ...like Covid & being unvaxed....today received 4th Hospital sleep cancellation!"
Honest truth! tbb phoned them back to agree with this latest bump...mid Vax crisis!
Catch up with Neighbour...just like tbb's Mum...Wants a Detox...get this shit outta me!
Common refrain: "Wish I never had the stupid Vax!"
Well might you ask!
Neighbour's partner's Family just lost a loved one to the Booster Shot on Sunday!
Pause! tbb could link any number of Qld News articles but all are fabricated...
{ GC first death after young man tests [+] for Covid }
Neighbour & Partner revealed the truth of their family friend's death.
True that the young man was in his 30's but he was also ultra fit...says tbb's super fit Neighbour.
Story goes he'd arrived home from his booster shot > too much for his heart.
Qld Govt were super quick to hush the family with Vax indemnity...(Friend's exact words)
Turns out the young lad never ever had covid nor even seen a RAT...
Crew may read the News articles & then read between the lines...they are fabricating a back story.
"It was believed the man was vaxed!" > (Reality) Qld recorded his Booster moments prior to death!
"Covid link to death was based on a [+] RAT....( Never actually says he took a test?) Coz he didn't!
Nothing to do with Covid...Friends say it was the Booster & nothing more about it...end of story!
Ask! How does a young fit man find an extinct RAT then suddenly die from least fatal Flu like result!
Even the CHO hams up the suss version of events...strange days are these.
{RIP} ...credit to his distraught friends & family in sharing his injustice...they're not happy!
Qld Premier : "My thoughts are with the Family!"
" It just goes to show that this Pandemic can have very serious consequences, so do the right thing!"
Top Shelf money for jam Gold Standard insensitive spin!
As Covid cases surge and a young man becomes the state's first casualty in nearly nine months ....
The Premier has 'issued a warning' for those who haven't received their Booster!
CHO said even full vaxed were still vulnerable to being infected, urging people to get the Booster!"
Govt won't release his name...but he won't die as a Vax Dose Number ! Not on tbb's Gold Coast!
Smash the Vax Police State.
Unmasked Bully Vaxer breaches 1,000 Anti Vaxers & cries that he can't get infected nor infect just one!
WHO just busted Lewis's arse for flogging off 14,521,311 Detox Units! (Gold Standard stupid!)
tomrnoir wrote:
Are you a DR?…yep, in natural therapies. Lol.
brutus wrote:seriously Robo...because you have been out and not caught Covid , means nothing.....it's like me saying I beat cancer 3 times so therefore cancer is totally beatable.....as over 90 % of people are vaccinated and Omicron has mutated where vaccines are less effective.....unvaccinated people have been not allowed to socialize like vaccinated.....all this is now a few weeks old...
vaccination was very effective against delta..over 60 %....over 90% for the first Covid..and now less again....
burleigh wrote:Robo wrote:burleigh wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
If he said it was raining you’d have to go outside and check
Donweather is a really good forecaster and someone i have seen in forums for a LONG time (burleighcam days) however his covid logic is way off.
No rules for those without the poison in NSW where most cases are, nice try though.
truebluebasher wrote:3 Central Goldie Vax stories from tbb's isolated world.
Skin Cancer Clinic demanded tbb reveal Vax Status before booking an appointment.
Dr Vax bashes tbb about gettin' the shot...see ya in the New Year.
Yesterday...tbb phones to double check for next week's bout with the "Mad Vax Doctor!" (*Good bloke!)
Clinic's Reply:
"Sorry! Your appointment is cancelled coz yer Doctor has come down with Covid!"
(tbb passed on best wishes!)Recently confirmed 4th attempt at Hospital Sleep Wing...asked if it was still OK?
Nurse says why wouldn't be!
tbb : "Well ...like Covid & being unvaxed....today received 4th Hospital sleep cancellation!"
Honest truth! tbb phoned them back to agree with this latest bump...mid Vax crisis!Catch up with Neighbour...just like tbb's Mum...Wants a Detox...get this shit outta me!
Common refrain: "Wish I never had the stupid Vax!"
Well might you ask!Neighbour's partner's Family just lost a loved one to the Booster Shot on Sunday!
Pause! tbb could link any number of Qld News articles but all are fabricated...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj2GfBXifXQ
{ GC first death after young man tests [+] for Covid }Neighbour & Partner revealed the truth of their family friend's death.
True that the young man was in his 30's but he was also ultra fit...says tbb's super fit Neighbour.
Story goes he'd arrived home from his booster shot > too much for his heart.Qld Govt were super quick to hush the family with Vax indemnity...(Friend's exact words)
Turns out the young lad never ever had covid nor even seen a RAT...Crew may read the News articles & then read between the lines...they are fabricating a back story.
"It was believed the man was vaxed!" > (Reality) Qld recorded his Booster moments prior to death!
"Covid link to death was based on a [+] RAT....( Never actually says he took a test?) Coz he didn't!Nothing to do with Covid...Friends say it was the Booster & nothing more about it...end of story!
Ask! How does a young fit man find an extinct RAT then suddenly die from least fatal Flu like result!
Even the CHO hams up the suss version of events...strange days are these.{RIP} ...credit to his distraught friends & family in sharing his injustice...they're not happy!
Qld Premier : "My thoughts are with the Family!"
" It just goes to show that this Pandemic can have very serious consequences, so do the right thing!"Top Shelf money for jam Gold Standard insensitive spin!
As Covid cases surge and a young man becomes the state's first casualty in nearly nine months ....
The Premier has 'issued a warning' for those who haven't received their Booster!
CHO said even full vaxed were still vulnerable to being infected, urging people to get the Booster!"Govt won't release his name...but he won't die as a Vax Dose Number ! Not on tbb's Gold Coast!
Smash the Vax Police State.
Shocking, people are being fooled and falling for it.
So robo ,what do you actually mean when you say "No rules for those without the poison in NSW where most cases are, nice try though.[/quote ?"
so the poison you talk about is the vax.......so please explain "No Rules?"
Robo wrote:brutus wrote:seriously Robo...because you have been out and not caught Covid , means nothing.....it's like me saying I beat cancer 3 times so therefore cancer is totally beatable.....as over 90 % of people are vaccinated and Omicron has mutated where vaccines are less effective.....unvaccinated people have been not allowed to socialize like vaccinated.....all this is now a few weeks old...
vaccination was very effective against delta..over 60 %....over 90% for the first Covid..and now less again....
burleigh wrote:Robo wrote:burleigh wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
If he said it was raining you’d have to go outside and check
Donweather is a really good forecaster and someone i have seen in forums for a LONG time (burleighcam days) however his covid logic is way off.
No rules for those without the poison in NSW where most cases are, nice try though.
brutus wrote:So robo ,what do you actually mean when you say "No rules for those without the poison in NSW where most cases are, nice try though.[/quote ?"
so the poison you talk about is the vax.......so please explain "No Rules?"Robo wrote:brutus wrote:seriously Robo...because you have been out and not caught Covid , means nothing.....it's like me saying I beat cancer 3 times so therefore cancer is totally beatable.....as over 90 % of people are vaccinated and Omicron has mutated where vaccines are less effective.....unvaccinated people have been not allowed to socialize like vaccinated.....all this is now a few weeks old...
vaccination was very effective against delta..over 60 %....over 90% for the first Covid..and now less again....
burleigh wrote:Robo wrote:burleigh wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
If he said it was raining you’d have to go outside and check
Donweather is a really good forecaster and someone i have seen in forums for a LONG time (burleighcam days) however his covid logic is way off.
No rules for those without the poison in NSW where most cases are, nice try though.
Besides mandates on some jobs you can do and go wherever you want not like QLD/NT, well except for a nursing home or hospital, but RNS won't let any visitors in anyway, have a relo in there now.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/federal-treasurer-josh-frydenberg...
Not much sympathy in the commentsLike thousands of Australians, I tested positive today to COVID-19.
— Josh Frydenberg (@JoshFrydenberg) January 7, 2022
I have the common symptoms and am isolating with my family.
My thoughts are with all those who have COVID - this is a difficult time but we will get through this.
Same here in Vic, there are still a lot of mandates where unvaccinated people can't go...but the reality is now none is checking.....so Omicron is spreading like wildfire everywhere, Governments have failed us both at State and Fed levels, Labor and Liberal all the same.
The saddest thing is the polarization of all of us, while our medical teams are buckling under the pressure , it's certainly getting worse , so we all have first hand stories of unvaccinated only getting mild symptoms while othere get smashed , same as people who are double vaxxed with boosters , some get nothing, some are really sick....there just doesn't seem to any uniform behaviour from Omicron....I have first hand stories from all over the planet that contradict a lot of what is being said....but we had let it rip ...so we sit back and live this new reality...and listen to the pollies just keep lying , and rolling out the smoke and mirrors!
Robo wrote:brutus wrote:So robo ,what do you actually mean when you say "No rules for those without the poison in NSW where most cases are, nice try though.[/quote ?"
so the poison you talk about is the vax.......so please explain "No Rules?"Robo wrote:brutus wrote:seriously Robo...because you have been out and not caught Covid , means nothing.....it's like me saying I beat cancer 3 times so therefore cancer is totally beatable.....as over 90 % of people are vaccinated and Omicron has mutated where vaccines are less effective.....unvaccinated people have been not allowed to socialize like vaccinated.....all this is now a few weeks old...
vaccination was very effective against delta..over 60 %....over 90% for the first Covid..and now less again....
burleigh wrote:Robo wrote:burleigh wrote:donweather wrote:Blowin wrote:The only healthy young person to sadly pass away was double vaccinated.
Seriously you are on drugs mate. There's been way more deaths under 60 than one double vac 23 yr old in Australia.
And you do realise that the unvaccinated in Australia are actually not currently allowed to do the same things as the vaccinated, hence currently the unvaccinated are less likely to catch COVID due to unvaccinated lockouts so to speak. Basically the only people out and about trying to get back some form of social interaction are the vaccinated and hence they're the ones getting COVID because of the socialising.
Anyway this argument has been going on for nigh on 2 years now and you guys keep coming up with the same old bullshit. You believe what you want to believe, just don't come whinging when you can't get a hospital bed when you're coughing up a lung.
You’re seriously out of touch with reality. I’m unvaxxed and been out and about every single day.
You think we’re all locked inside all day?
Stick to surf forecasting mate.
If he said it was raining you’d have to go outside and check
Donweather is a really good forecaster and someone i have seen in forums for a LONG time (burleighcam days) however his covid logic is way off.
No rules for those without the poison in NSW where most cases are, nice try though.
Besides mandates on some jobs you can do and go wherever you want not like QLD/NT, well except for a nursing home or hospital, but RNS won't let any visitors in anyway, have a relo in there now.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia