COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
@roadkill , do you believe the WHO and FDA are straight shooters ? Do you believe them to be beyond corruption and influence ? Serious question.
Vic Local wrote:Well drink drivers who crash their cars don't get an insurance payout. It's exactly the same principle. Sensible people (ie vaccinated) should not have to subsidise dickheads who are too stupid or too chicken to get a vaccination.
Vaccination is voluntary Vic. Don't ever forget that. repeat it over and over again.
Vic Local wrote:Well drink drivers who crash their cars don't get an insurance payout. It's exactly the same principle. Sensible people (ie vaccinated) should not have to subsidise dickheads who are too stupid or too chicken to get a vaccination.
What about obese people that abuse their body everyday with putting shit food inside it that get heart disease. Do you believe they should be denied hospital treatment or sent the bill?
Thats the real pandemic.
NSW Former Premier Carr + Top Economist > "Charge Non Vaxed for Medicare Costs."
Lowest Vax Rates > Aboriginal TTI > Pregnant > Kidz > Prisoners > Teens > Outpatients > Disabled
Pretty sure UN would make light work of uncaring VIP White Trash Hodads!
NSW (Pre Vax Era) 30 Jan 2020 > 20 Feb 2021 (Average/Day/wk) = 39.1 cases/day > 1 death/wk
NSW 20 Feb 2021 > Now 93.4% Vaccinated (Average/Day/wk) = 270 cases/day > 14 deaths/wk
NSW Health Vax Rollout has spiked a 590% more infectious virus that proves 1300% more deadly.
(Takes all of 5 minutes to verify #1 NSW Health Fact on any site or device you can dream up!)
So how come all Oz experts combined can't trip over these #1 Covid Facts that boss our lives? Huh!
Some / Most / All Experts claim Vax is less infectious & deadly than No vax ...WTF...(Biggest ever lie!)
No Tricks! UK infected Vaxers % rises above National Vax% (Again! Vaxerz are #1 spreaderz...durr!)
As clear as day but Experts & MSM keep ignoring the Biggest Vax stats of our era...not very bright!
NSW Health frontline Pfizer Vax Wane
March/April > June/July Mass Wane begins by Aug > 1,429 Staff Isolating (Over 50% Full Vaxed)
We see this same Mass Wane play out in Europe! Again...how do Experts miss biggest Frontline wane?
NSW Health weekly Covid Cases
13-16th Nov 2021 (Most recent 'matching' Full Data Sets)
NSW Health "Covid-19 Risk monitoring Dashboard -Healthcare Settings" 17 Nov 2021
https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/critical-intelligence-unit/dashboard
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NSW Health "Covid-19 Weekly Surveillance in NSW"- 13 Nov 2021
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-sur...
Takes all of 2 seconds to clearly read there's 1,000s more Vaccinated patients in NSW Health Care
Home Care Flow Portal (Unregistered) is "Essentially" reserved for 'Double Vaxed' Patients.
https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/670528/ACI-Car...
1 Full Time carer aka (Not Gran!) But a Drug Dealer, part Tablet Guy ($200/day) re: (Scripts / Zoom)
Telehealth Costs [ Hospital ] Call $200 / GP-Specialist $100 / Consultant - receptionist $50
re: 15 days [+] 1-2x Calls/day + 5x GP calls / Specialists 2x + Consultants 7x = $6,000 per Vax Patient.
[ Telehealth ] Is owned by Chinese 30% / US Tech Corps / OZ Resources > (No Oz Health $ returned!)
Codes permit Big Tech backdoor access to MyHealth Private Data & breach of GP confidentiality!
NSW Home Care > Double Vax - 2397/wk (27,000/wk at Peak) No! You wouldn't read about it...durr!
NSW Hospital (Full Vax - Risk) 67/wk
NSW Hospital (1 dose > 3wks - *200 min)+(1 dose + 3wks 80) + ICU 12 ?
Hospital (No Vax) > (*195 Max) + ICU 8 ?
No effective Dose *395 = re: 1 dose > 3wks as highest % and increasing as with ICU?
Sept- NSW Health dumped skyrocketing 1 Dose data onto declining No vax stats...to stop the rot!
Other NSW Premier: Get off my cases > Eyes up here! Check out my Vax 92.4%
(Current) NSW Health Care Figures 93.4% Vaxed cases (vs) 6.6% Unvaxed cases
NSW Health : Vaxers over represent in Healthcare (vs) Unvaxed under represent in Health Care.
Don't take long for Aussies to figure that out...
Experts promised to share Vax data as they get it...(2 day delay they said!)
This most recent full set is 13 days old...tbb is not fussy & will salute any NSW Data that rings true.
Oz #1 Biggest Health Crisis in History
Multi $ Billion Rollout Staff get paid Double of frontline Hospital Staff
Rollout killed off Tier one Surgery & Cut all Oz Outpatient appointments for 2021 & beyond.
Hesitants are denied Outpatient care but required to Vax...now the Bullies deny our last health rites!
Forcing Oz Sickest People to Vax without care...only brews up more faster mutant viruses.
Oz Govt #1 Covid Symptoms > Short -Difficult Breathing / loss of mobility / Confusion / Chest Pain.
None can legally consent to Vax if they have these symptoms...that being most Outpatients...Correct!
The Govt exempts untreated Outpatients by default...otherwise 100,000's would Vax! No Brainer!
Healthy people are not to know such & we isolated sick don't wish ACA to kick our doors down.
Keen Vax Doctor, just this week instantly agreed with tbb...you must present healthy to Vax! (Naturally!)
Not even the ill can lie on Vax Consent forms...if yer ill with described systems > You must not Vax!
Bully ex Premier & Numbers Guy need to grow a heart and a brain....
Bullies withhold Medicare to 1st Nation, Pregnant, Kidz, Prisoners, Teens, Outpatients, Disabled...
Hesitants long surrendered their healthcare & pay for Private health while Rollout bosses State Health.
Should we Hesitants start demanding Medicare Rebates for bailing out Mass Vax Health Care.
No! It's Unaustralian + we're too ill to bother about it! Govt forced them to Vax..not their fault!
PS: (Quite often 10x unregistered infections > patients in Home care than on Cartoon TV tally.)
State Health only consults > removes Hot Vaxers off State Books onto 'Confidential' GP Telehealth.
To calm the waters & paint the desired Landscape.
9th Sept (re:) Public reads Vic Hospital 143 cases > Unregistered Off Grid Home Care 1,600 (Shh!)
Breaky TV is none the wiser & would be the last to wake up to the truth!
SA have run 900 unregistered Home Care...reckon that's more than their Breaky TV has toyed with!
Yes! Of course...sadly Vaxerz also die in Covid home care NSW > 11th Sept > up to 15 deaths
Original Model was set up early-mid 2020 by ADF / IT as a gift to Scomo's Gal.
Vic has one running since early this year...Qld as SA also run home models...
New Oz Homecare Model is being fine tuned by ( RACGP ) > [ Telehealth ] > { Healthline }
Not saying it's being privatized...user pays model...(Yet!) only that it pleases the States no end.
10x Vax Infections swept off the radar...everyone is happy to pretend there's zero Vax outbreaks.
Breakthrus > Waning > Hot Spots > Exposure Sites all become invisible in a Fully Vaxed cartoon society.
Paves the way to paint targets on most vulnerable for bullies to poke sticks at & don't they luv it!
sypkan wrote:dude seriously, I'm avoiding you and your self righteous pigheadedness, thar's all
it really is all in gsco's post
big tech, big pharma, legacy media, various governments, their privatised corrupted by private money departments, a corrupted academia, various ngo's and scientists that have been riding the public / private grants system for decades... the neoliberal order basically...
it's been on life support for some time... and been in a propaganda battle literally for it's life since bernie sanders and trump came along...
corona just exposed another level of corruption, like the WHO, the WEF, and all the dodge stuff they have been supporting for decades
various government and global good guy bodies have just shown they're no better than the IOC and FIFA... corrupted to the core...
if you really cannot see it, this conversation is not for you, hence me avoiding you and your blissful ignorance and nothing else
So that’s a no answer…you have to rely on another posters explanation…weak. But again, as expected.
Supafreak wrote:@roadkill , do you believe the WHO and FDA are straight shooters ? Do you believe them to be beyond corruption and influence ? Serious question.
No, both are not beyond corruption and/or bad influence.
“Are you ready for a change to come?
There’s already one, already one”
- Phil Jamison
Rip David
Reported adverse reactions from the jab on the 16th November including 2 deaths (reporting is 2 weeks behind)
Just because it didn't happen to you, doesn't mean it's not happening.
Still going to anti-vaxxer instagram accounts for your covid news burleigh.
That is embarrassing on so many levels.
burleigh…I hear TikTok is also a good source for covid vax info….they even do a little dance whilst giving advise.
Perfect for you.
TGA? Instagram? Hahaha! Blinded by rage....@ vic(toughguy)local
Boosters in UK for the vulnerable now being advised at 3 months not 6 .
HAHAHAHAHAHA! We told you.
— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) November 29, 2021
Boosters in the UK will now move from 6 months to 3 months. pic.twitter.com/xJsI50PBfH
Roadkill wrote:burleigh…I hear TikTok is also a good source for covid vax info….they even do a little dance whilst giving advise.
Perfect for you.
Ha Ha. Well played roadkill.
Hey @Burleigh, I guess if they published the TGA's recorded adverse events from vacccine on channel 7, Dickvocal might believe it.
Wondering why there's been no big 'investigations' into it by ACA, Four Corners...60minutes!!! Mustn't be real news.
Good on ya Burleigh. You've got more patience than me dealing with those two muppets.
"So that’s a no answer…you have to rely on another posters explanation…weak. But again, as expected."
dude, I provided you a list of people with common interests, a common goal...
a list i have posted several times in context, as entities cooperating, colluding even, to present a certain picture... geez some of them even have a formal agreement!
but you don't do context, you are not interested, you are too busy trying to paint me as this conspiracy theorist pucture you've cooked up in your head for 6 months or more because it suits your interests
it ain't that simple einstein, the world is full of contrasts and competing interests, but you want it all either / or to suit your lack of processing capacity
you really are a peapod with your simpleton mate
actually, more like a pair of smelly lycra clad ballsacks, somehow chaffing on anything that dares come within sniffing distance
Oh no the sky is falling......
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-30/victorian-government-pandemic-bil...
There's really two, very polarised sides to this forum, and the wider discussion around covid & associacted vax.
It's either you understand enough about the nature of pandemics, the danger, the urgency, the unknowns and the need to act quickly. When I say enough, I mean enough that a non-subject matter expert should know.
Or, you reject that understanding and you refuse to believe in pandemics. You fall the traps of sub beliefs such as your immune system is fine for everything, that vaccines/mandates are part of some evil plan or potentially that this is the great reset/move to global communism/hell. If you fall in this category, generally you feel that you know more than the people believing in the need to respond to pandemic through a consistent, well led approach. Essentially, you fail to see the extent of your own knowledge limitations, and are blind to your biases regarding what you wish the world would be like (i.e. no pandemics, freedom to do what you want whenever.).
Vic Local wrote:Still going to anti-vaxxer instagram accounts for your covid news burleigh.
That is embarrassing on so many levels.
Its an instagram page, yes. The post is screen shots from the TGA website with no edits. You really will bury your head in the sand and try ANYTHING to discredit things wont you? Deaths, miscarriages, heart issues are just some of the adverse reactions listed on that page, but you and roadkill are happy t discredit it because its posted on instagram?
Look at the age brackets (where listed) these people are doing it not for themselves, but for ungrateful people like roadkill who thinks the world owes him something.
Stok wrote:There's really two, very polarised sides to this forum, and the wider discussion around covid & associacted vax.
It's either you understand enough about the nature of pandemics, the danger, the urgency, the unknowns and the need to act quickly. When I say enough, I mean enough that a non-subject matter expert should know.
Or, you reject that understanding and you refuse to believe in pandemics. You fall the traps of sub beliefs such as your immune system is fine for everything, that vaccines/mandates are part of some evil plan or potentially that this is the great reset/move to global communism/hell. If you fall in this category, generally you feel that you know more than the people believing in the need to respond to pandemic through a consistent, well led approach. Essentially, you fail to see the extent of your own knowledge limitations, and are blind to your biases regarding what you wish the world would be like (i.e. no pandemics, freedom to do what you want whenever.).
Your immune system is science. Just not the science that generates huge $$$.
Look after it, treat your body the way its meant to be treated, dont abuse it with drugs, shit food and alcohol, then it will look after you.
Not once have i seen anyone on tv telling you to look after your body, put down the KFC and go exercise. Its just jab jab jab.
A patient cured is a customer lost for big pharma.
burleigh wrote:Stok wrote:There's really two, very polarised sides to this forum, and the wider discussion around covid & associacted vax.
It's either you understand enough about the nature of pandemics, the danger, the urgency, the unknowns and the need to act quickly. When I say enough, I mean enough that a non-subject matter expert should know.
Or, you reject that understanding and you refuse to believe in pandemics. You fall the traps of sub beliefs such as your immune system is fine for everything, that vaccines/mandates are part of some evil plan or potentially that this is the great reset/move to global communism/hell. If you fall in this category, generally you feel that you know more than the people believing in the need to respond to pandemic through a consistent, well led approach. Essentially, you fail to see the extent of your own knowledge limitations, and are blind to your biases regarding what you wish the world would be like (i.e. no pandemics, freedom to do what you want whenever.).
Your immune system is science. Just not the science that generates huge $$$.
Look after it, treat your body the way its meant to be treated, dont abuse it with drugs, shit food and alcohol, then it will look after you.
Not once have i seen anyone on tv telling you to look after your body, put down the KFC and go exercise. Its just jab jab jab.
A patient cured is a customer lost for big pharma.
Would you say vaccines are broadly unnecessary?
Nailed it Stok, and then Burleigh's response just reinforces your comments. Face palm!
I agree that the government have missed an opportunity to push the eat healthy, exercise etc message but even the fittest/healthiest can be susceptible to this virus, no matter how strong you think your immune system is.
Craig wrote:Nailed it Stok, and then Burleigh's response just reinforces your comments. Face palm!
I agree that the government have missed an opportunity to push the eat healthy, exercise etc message but even the fittest/healthiest can be susceptible to this virus, no matter how strong you think your immune system is.
Craig, you're also susceptible to the virus fully jabbed, however being jabbed you're also susceptible to the adverse reactions.
Sure i can still catch the virus, but you can't compare me or my family who don't drink or smoke and eat healthy/exercise daily to another obese family of the same age. Ive given my body every chance it has to fight off serious infection and reduce my chance of needing medical treatment.
That is incorrect Burleigh.
We are both susceptible to it, but I am more protected and likely to produce less severe symptoms/complications.
I'd say we are both similar health wise so you are at more risk (even though small at our ages - not sure your age) to be hospitalised.
This risk oh hospitalisation from COVID is greater than hospitalisation from the jab and that's the end of it.
If you want to think otherwise then fine but just admit you are going against all the stats and science. Ie being selfish and not looking out for the greater good.
nah stok
one can listen to and respect medical experts ...and also know there are vested interests and bigger forces at work...
it's the system that is broken, it was broken well before covid, hence the political unrest well before covid...
so answer me one thing stok...
is 'the great reset' a thing?
or just a 'conspiracy'?
burleigh wrote:Sure i can still catch the virus, but you can't compare me or my family who don't drink or smoke and eat healthy/exercise daily to another obese family of the same age. Ive given my body every chance it has to fight off serious infection and reduce my chance of needing medical treatment.
And thus the problem is that the community consists a wide range of people of varying health.
That, along with everyone's internal bias against the status of their actual health ("I'm as fit as a fiddle!", says the moderately overweight footy-Dad who hasn't been for a checkup in ten years, and has no idea whether his cholesterol is elevated, or his blood pressure is high, let alone diabetes, prostate/bowel cancer), means self-assessment of Covid-19 vulnerability is a risky proposition.
Craig wrote:That is incorrect Burleigh.
We are both susceptible to it, but I am more protected and likely to produce less severe symptoms/complications.
I'd say we are both similar health wise so you are at more risk (even though small at our ages - not sure your age) to be hospitalised.
This risk oh hospitalisation from COVID is greater than hospitalisation from the jab and that's the end of it.
If you want to think otherwise then fine but just admit you are going against all the stats and science. Ie being selfish and not looking out for the greater good.
We dont have the stats on hospitalisations for adverse reactions, their health status etc so its an unknown.
I have chosen what i deemed best for me and my family considering our age (im in my 30s) & our health choices. This is not just better for Covid hospitalisation but better for hospitalisation in general considering heart diseases is 1 in 20 (1.2 million) people in Australia.
sypkan wrote:so answer me one thing stok...
is 'the great reset' a thing?
or just a 'conspiracy'?
I don't know.
I also will never be in a position to 'know enough' to know if this is a conspiracy or not.
i recognise that if I start rejecting more widely adopted narratives, start digging in to this and researching/looking for answers myself, I'm prone to manipulation. There's too many experts at manipulation these days, and the platforms they have, the echo chambers that exist and the algorithms make it pretty much a one way street to crazy town.
Craig wrote:I agree that the government have missed an opportunity to push the eat healthy, exercise etc message but even the fittest/healthiest can be susceptible to this virus, no matter how strong you think your immune system is.
The whole stay at home messaging and closure of gyms I think gave people the fuel for 'it's not about your health' rhetoric. Which is an unfortunate lesson learnt.
Not saying I disagree with those restrictions, but perhaps when restrictions were easing there should've been a real push to get people moving again.
@burleigh , there’s been plenty of cases of healthy young sports stars contracting covid and unable to get back to their original level of fitness. I’ve posted links before of young US NBL stars that have suffered from long covid. We are all a little bit different and you have some valid points. It’s a bizarre disease in that some have no problems and don’t even show symptoms and others regardless of fitness and health get smashed . I’m against mandates personally and a hospital in NY recently had to close its emergency department after not enough staff due to being unvaccinated. https://www.newsweek.com/staff-shortages-force-new-york-hospital-close-e...
My 2cents on two things I keep seeing repeated:
1. regarding weight related health issues - I'm sure if there was a vaccine which reduced risk of hospitalization from heart attack/diabetes etc. we would be taking it. As it stands there isn't and the only way to mitigate your risk is through good diet and exercise - much more difficult to enforce and I don't think anyone here would advocate for strict enforcement of this. Like most however I would still say there is improvement to be done in this space.
2. Many of the anti vaxxers here keep mentioning that those on the other side are living in fear. However from where I sit it seems the antivaxers are irrationally fearful of getting their choice of 3+ possible vaccines available which are all demonstrably safe (compared to the risk of covid), so it seems a bit rich to me that they are the ones crying that we are living in fear. Seems a bit weak to me.
and fwiw, I don't really fear it or the 'communism'
but I do fear the mass public gaslighting project that's currently underway...
https://m.
Mcface wrote:My 2cents on two things I keep seeing repeated:
1. regarding weight related health issues - I'm sure if there was a vaccine which reduced risk of hospitalization from heart attack/diabetes etc. we would be taking it. As it stands there isn't and the only way to mitigate your risk is through good diet and exercise - much more difficult to enforce and I don't think anyone here would advocate for strict enforcement of this. Like most however I would still say there is improvement to be done in this space.
2. Many of the anti vaxxers here keep mentioning that those on the other side are living in fear. However from where I sit it seems the antivaxers are irrationally fearful of getting their choice of 3+ possible vaccines available which are all demonstrably safe (compared to the risk of covid), so it seems a bit rich to me that they are the ones crying that we are living in fear. Seems a bit weak to me.
This is the problem, and exactly what is wrong with the fucking world. People would rather take a medication to stop heart disease when all you haver to do is exercise and stop eating shit.
TBB = minority of keyboard warriors recognising #1 Public Health rule: never, ever conduct mass vaccinations during a pandemic. Why? Because it is likely to accelerate viral resistance resulting in #1 Big Problem in Public Health - 'superbugs'.
In the words of TBB, "durr": https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/the-last-post
Fortunately for everyone, effectiveness of vaccines is waning fast-enough (we hope) that vaxxed will have some resemblance of a broad spectrum immune response when covid superbug hits -now???
Healthy hesitant heathens to become saviours of inherently stupid centralised health care system? Next on the violence channel:
- health care brought to you by Brawndo -it's got electrolytes!Pay attention, sing along, stay healthy!
Yep Supa, Lewis Hamilton one of them, would have to be one of the fittest around.
burleigh wrote:Stok wrote:There's really two, very polarised sides to this forum, and the wider discussion around covid & associacted vax.
It's either you understand enough about the nature of pandemics, the danger, the urgency, the unknowns and the need to act quickly. When I say enough, I mean enough that a non-subject matter expert should know.
Or, you reject that understanding and you refuse to believe in pandemics. You fall the traps of sub beliefs such as your immune system is fine for everything, that vaccines/mandates are part of some evil plan or potentially that this is the great reset/move to global communism/hell. If you fall in this category, generally you feel that you know more than the people believing in the need to respond to pandemic through a consistent, well led approach. Essentially, you fail to see the extent of your own knowledge limitations, and are blind to your biases regarding what you wish the world would be like (i.e. no pandemics, freedom to do what you want whenever.).
Your immune system is science. Just not the science that generates huge $$$.
Look after it, treat your body the way its meant to be treated, dont abuse it with drugs, shit food and alcohol, then it will look after you.
Not once have i seen anyone on tv telling you to look after your body, put down the KFC and go exercise. Its just jab jab jab.
A patient cured is a customer lost for big pharma.
This is about as fucking stupid as can be.
It's not as easy as eating healthy and exercising.
Plenty of fit healthy people develop various diseases through no fault of their own.
To ignore genetics and predisposition to disease etc etc..is so fucking wrong. You are a real ignorant fuckwit.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Stok wrote:There's really two, very polarised sides to this forum, and the wider discussion around covid & associacted vax.
It's either you understand enough about the nature of pandemics, the danger, the urgency, the unknowns and the need to act quickly. When I say enough, I mean enough that a non-subject matter expert should know.
Or, you reject that understanding and you refuse to believe in pandemics. You fall the traps of sub beliefs such as your immune system is fine for everything, that vaccines/mandates are part of some evil plan or potentially that this is the great reset/move to global communism/hell. If you fall in this category, generally you feel that you know more than the people believing in the need to respond to pandemic through a consistent, well led approach. Essentially, you fail to see the extent of your own knowledge limitations, and are blind to your biases regarding what you wish the world would be like (i.e. no pandemics, freedom to do what you want whenever.).
Your immune system is science. Just not the science that generates huge $$$.
Look after it, treat your body the way its meant to be treated, dont abuse it with drugs, shit food and alcohol, then it will look after you.
Not once have i seen anyone on tv telling you to look after your body, put down the KFC and go exercise. Its just jab jab jab.
A patient cured is a customer lost for big pharma.
This is about as fucking stupid as can be.
It's not as easy as eating healthy and exercising.
Plenty of fit healthy people develop various diseases through no fault of their own.
To ignore genetics and predisposition to disease etc etc..is so fucking wrong. You are a real ignorant fuckwit.
I would say the real ignorance comes from people like yourself that want to jab healthy children and opening them up to adverse reactions to keep old grumpy people like yourself safe.
Quite literally The Great Reset is just an initiative of the World Economic Forum to take the opportunity to use the "pause" in our lives due to covid rethink the structure, operation and governance of the global capitalist economy.
I personally warmly welcome the idea.
My understanding is that the conspiracy side of it is that people seem to believe that covid was actually either a hoax fabricated by, or an actual virus created by, people in the World Economic Forum and its partners in order to bring down the global economic system, and some people go so far as to say in order to replace it with communism.
That's well out there.
It's one thing to say that the media, big tech, big pharma, political groups, etc, all just simply took covid as an opportunity to profit and advance their political and commercial agendas and interests, 'as they do' and in the usual way they know how within the global capitalist economy. And the result was the usual sensationalisation, commercialisation and politicisation of covid to the point of significantly upping the confusion, uncertainty, misinformation, unknowns, propaganda, etc, factor.
That's just how the global capitalist system works and it's just what executives are taught in their MBAs from Harvard, Penn Wharton, MIT Sloan, etc: to anticipate global trends and position oneself to profit from them, and while doing so try to influence the trends in one's favour as much as possible.
In that sense covid has put the global capitalist system naked on centre stage for everyone to very clearly see its faults. Addressing these faults is what The Great Reset initiative by the World Economic Forum is all about.
But it's another thing to say that covid was intentionally fabricated or created in order to bring down the global system and replace it with communism. I see no hard evidence of this.
I personally warmly welcome the conversation...
but how can we possibly have the conversation, when some are trying to sneak it through the back door denying its very existence?
which has resulted in people like stok and others thinking it's a conspiracy theory indicative of a paranoid imagination...
it's a classic example of, ...a damning example of... there is barely any 'shared reality' of facts anymore... so how can we possibly face the big problems of the future, when we cannot even agree on what is real, facts, and the commensurate problems?
the propaganda media model is broken
and the corresponding big tech. censorship isn't helping anything
Victoria first with mRNA luckily we still have some unvaccinated to do the trials https://www.doherty.edu.au/news-events/news/victoria-makes-australias-fi... Meanwhile Professor Petrovsky synthetic protein vaccine gets nothing. Should we be again , be throwing all eggs into one basket ? https://www.shdc.com.au/podcasts/covid-19-vaccines-nikolai-petrovsky/
Back to the Ballina rally - excerpt from article by George Monbiot - link to follow.
''But much of what we are seeing at the moment is new. A few years ago, dreadlocked hippies spreading QAnon lies and muttering about a conspiracy against Donald Trump would have seemed unthinkable. Today, the old boundaries have broken down, and the most unlikely people have become susceptible to rightwing extremism.
The anti-vaccine movement is a highly effective channel for the penetration of far-right ideas into leftwing countercultures. For several years, anti-vax has straddled the green left and the far right. Trump flirted with it, at one point inviting the anti-vaxxer Robert F Kennedy Jr to chair a “commission on vaccination safety and scientific integrity”.
Anti-vax beliefs overlap strongly with a susceptibility to conspiracy theories. This tendency has been reinforced by Facebook algorithms directing vaccine-hesitant people towards far-right conspiracy groups. Ancient links between “wellness” movements and antisemitic paranoia have in some cases been re-established. The notion of the “sovereign body”, untainted by chemical contamination, has begun to fuse with the fear that a shadowy cabal is trying to deprive us of autonomy.
There’s a temptation to overthink this, and we should never discount the role of sheer bloody idiocy. Some anti-vaxxers are now calling themselves “purebloods”, a term that should send a chill through anyone even vaguely acquainted with 20th-century history. In their defence, however, if they can’t even get Harry Potter right (purebloods is what the bad guys call themselves), we can’t expect them to detect an echo of the Nuremberg laws.
I believe this synthesis of left-alternative and rightwing cultures has been accelerated by despondency, confusion and betrayal. After left-ish political parties fell into line with corporate power, the right seized the language they had abandoned. Steve Bannon and Dominic Cummings brilliantly repurposed the leftwing themes of resisting elite power and regaining control of our lives. Now there has been an almost perfect language swap. Parties that once belonged on the left talk about security and stability while those on the right talk of liberation and revolt."
"I believe this synthesis of left-alternative and rightwing cultures has been accelerated by despondency, confusion and betrayal. After left-ish political parties fell into line with corporate power, the right seized the language they had abandoned. Steve Bannon and Dominic Cummings brilliantly repurposed the leftwing themes of resisting elite power and regaining control of our lives. Now there has been an almost perfect language swap. Parties that once belonged on the left talk about security and stability while those on the right talk of liberation and revolt."
yep
but that's what you get with betrayal...
did the leftist elites really think they could walk both sides of the fence when they adopted corporatism?
...well actually... i think they could have... but instead they showed nothing but contempt for the traditional working classes, going 'all in' on their little corporate rainbow alliance...
well how's that working out for ya?
betrayal's a bitch...
when ya eventually reap what you sow
26 year old dead after the jab. Please don't mention Lewis Hamiltons long covid again.
Another instagram story from an anti-vaxxer group, and burleigh treats it as a gospel truth.
The story teller even used the letter "v" instead of "vaccine' because she feared her story would be spiked if she used the word "Vaccine". If that's not a red flag for tin foil hat wearers, nothing is.
And of course, they've got the hand out for donations.
It's all getting a little silly burleigh. Time to put on your big boy pants and grow up a bit.
Critical Literacy 101
Module 1: Scrutinising the Credibility & Veracity of Sources
Module 2: Case Studies - Instascam and Fakebook
It seems that even highly educated, intelligent people are susceptible to misinformation. A close family member of mine who vehemently opposes the covid vaccines recently boasted about the advanced research skills he has acquired throughout his academic and professional career. When I asked for an example of one of the sources he has discovered via his advanced research skills, he sent me a link to a Bitchute video! As a non-medical professional, he has also developed the habit of lecturing to doctors in his family, including his own father! The arrogance is breathtaking.
burleigh wrote:26 year old dead after the jab. Please don't mention Lewis Hamiltons long covid again.
“I believe my fiancé was a victim of adverse cardiac reaction caused by the ‘v’
The media attention we received was overwhelming and unwelcome.
26year old male, died 17 November.
The comments section say he was a New Zealand. Yet, there is zero info anywhere on NZ media on a 26year old male dying due to covid vaccines. None in Aus either.
So, zero info anywhere on a Rory that died 17 november.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia