COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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Roadkill Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 5:44pm
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overthefalls Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 5:45pm

There’s been too much bad news about covid, so here’s some good news: climate change is a hoax! The majority of the world’s scientists are just making us live in fear to perpetuate their academic tenures. If you don’t believe me, just check out some Bitchute videos and some Instagram pages. It’s all there for everybody to see. Don’t believe the mainstream narrative. Wake up, open your eyes and think for yourselves. Does this sound ludicrous?

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Roadkill Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 5:51pm

There is some real dodgy shit.
You tube has multiple Rory Nairn posts with Indians speaking and candles.

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Craig Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 5:59pm

Surprise surprise.

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 6:52pm
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Found this though.

https://ans-wer.com/who-was-rory-nairn-dunedin-nz-plumber-death-cause-an...

This is nothing. Nice try though. this is all covered in the original post. From his partner

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 6:48pm
Roadkill wrote:

There is some real dodgy shit.
You tube has multiple Rory Nairn posts with Indians speaking and candles.

Again. absolutely nothing. keep trying though fool

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 6:51pm
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Another instagram story from an anti-vaxxer group, and burleigh treats it as a gospel truth.
The story teller even used the letter "v" instead of "vaccine' because she feared her story would be spiked if she used the word "Vaccine". If that's not a red flag for tin foil hat wearers, nothing is.
And of course, they've got the hand out for donations.
It's all getting a little silly burleigh. Time to put on your big boy pants and grow up a bit.

Keep trying Vic. There is no link for donations. nice try to discredit though

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Roadkill Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 7:11pm
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There is some real dodgy shit.
You tube has multiple Rory Nairn posts with Indians speaking and candles.

Again. absolutely nothing. keep trying though fool

You would have to be one of the gullible fools they are targeting. Funny stuff.

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Roadkill Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 7:13pm
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Another instagram story from an anti-vaxxer group, and burleigh treats it as a gospel truth.
The story teller even used the letter "v" instead of "vaccine' because she feared her story would be spiked if she used the word "Vaccine". If that's not a red flag for tin foil hat wearers, nothing is.
And of course, they've got the hand out for donations.
It's all getting a little silly burleigh. Time to put on your big boy pants and grow up a bit.

Keep trying Vic. There is no link for donations. nice try to discredit though

The post next to it has a woman with kids…she has a gofund me…no doubt you will be contributing?

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etarip Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 7:36pm

I like it how one of the the anti-vax tactics is to call people out for being ‘scared’ of the virus…

Then post multiple links to stories about vaccine ‘injuries’… presumably to scare people into NOT taking the vaccine.

It’s a pointless game. For every anti-vax story there’s probably 100 sad tales of covid deaths.

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Vic Local Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 7:35pm

Hey burleigh, I got myocarditis after the jab. Had to take a month off work and can't pay the rent. Can you send me your credit card details so I can take a donation out of your account.
Thanks in advance. VL.

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 7:43pm

Boosters every 3 months in the UK now. Because it works so well right?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/29/covid-booster-jabs-to-be-o...

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Vic Local Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 7:49pm

Vaccines do work well burleigh. Very well but you want perfection.
Do you wear seatbelts dopey? They work well in car accidents but they don't guarantee you'll survive all car accidents.

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:03pm
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Vaccines do work well burleigh. Very well but you want perfection.
Do you wear seatbelts dopey? They work well in car accidents but they don't guarantee you'll survive all car accidents.

As we discussed a few days ago dopey, The vaccine is like putting sticky tape over your seatbelt. But now you have to replace your stickytape sooner, all while the sticky tape manufacturer is getting very rich and free from any liability when his sticktape fails.

But he knows people are dopey and will keep putting it over the top because channel 7 told them so.

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lostdoggy Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:02pm

I had friends in Europe return to Australia after having covid (they were fine) unvaccinated - told to wait 6 months for a vaccine but now aren’t allowed to do anything even if they have antibodies because they’re not allowed to get the vax yet?

This does not compute in my head, what’s the go? I assume they have antibodies from recovering from covid.

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:06pm
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I had friends in Europe return to Australia after having covid (they were fine) unvaccinated - told to wait 6 months for a vaccine but now aren’t allowed to do anything even if they have antibodies because they’re not allowed to get the vax yet?

This does not compute in my head, what’s the go? I assume they have antibodies from recovering from covid.

Because antibodies are not the science that gets people paid. Take your jab people and dont ever question it.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:08pm
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I had friends in Europe return to Australia after having covid (they were fine) unvaccinated - told to wait 6 months for a vaccine but now aren’t allowed to do anything even if they have antibodies because they’re not allowed to get the vax yet?

This does not compute in my head, what’s the go? I assume they have antibodies from recovering from covid.

This is part of the shitstorm in the US , covid recovered medical staff that can’t work if unvaccinated. Makes zero sense to me .

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lostdoggy Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:09pm

Yeh, I’m pro vax but there’s a lot of complete dumb shit happening.

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:12pm

Here is an undercover video of a Pfizer scientist talking about natural antibodies.

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Hiccups Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:13pm
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Vaccines do work well burleigh. Very well but you want perfection.
Do you wear seatbelts dopey? They work well in car accidents but they don't guarantee you'll survive all car accidents.

As we discussed a few days ago dopey, The vaccine is like putting sticky tape over your seatbelt. But now you have to replace your stickytape sooner, all while the sticky tape manufacturer is getting very rich and free from any liability when his sticktape fails.

But he knows people are dopey and will keep putting it over the top because channel 7 told them so.

Why does this, and every other one of these turds, assume that everyone who disagrees with then watches channel 7, Kochie, etc? So dull.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:17pm
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Yeh, I’m pro vax but there’s a lot of complete dumb shit happening.

My neighbour’s in the same boat , volunteered last year to do one of the last Qantas flights to South America before it all stopped. Got covid, said it was pretty horrible ( not hospitalised )but made full recovery then laid off by Qantas. Went to doctor last month for testing of antibodies and results showed a very strong amount. Now is being penalised on where he can go , doesn’t really want the vax now as what’s the point. He got covid in March or April 2020 .

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Vic Local Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:19pm

sticky tape? oh dear.
When it comes to vaccines you either take it or you don't. It is so painfully obvious to everyone except the anti-vax cookers, that taking it is a much better option for you health.
Not only is it a better option for your health, it's a better option for everyone else's health. Being an anti-vaxxer puts other people at risk and that's why there are consequences for idiotic choices.
Anti-vaxxers: stupid, selfish and so arrogant. Burleigh, tell us exactly why you are right and the vast majority of medical experts who specialise in viruses are wrong.

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Hiccups Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:45pm

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Roadkill Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:49pm
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Fully vaccinated nurse has died of Covid.
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/emergency-nurse-jill-demp...

Watch the anti vaxers use her death for their bias.

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Vic Local Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 9:01pm

"Fully vaccinated nurse has died of Covid."
Vaccines aren't perfect dickhead.
How many times do I have to explain this to you burleigh?
And there's a good chance she caught covid from some anti-vaxxer flog.
What sort of arsehole uses the tragic death of a nurse, doing the right thing, to promote medical misinformation that is dangerous to people's health.

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burleigh Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 9:32pm

ive posted 2 x deaths today. 1 Vaccine related & 1 Covid related. Both equally tragic & sad.

Yet, the first death you had a completely different tone and tried to discredit.

Why?

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 9:34pm

18 of the World's wealthiest & highest vaxed nations 'in a race' to spread Omicron across the Planet
Vax Experts teamed up to impossibly trip over Omicron from half a world away.
Are they all equally the most pathetically stupid Pandemic Scientists of this & next millennium!
Can we now finally tear up their Expert Cornflake Pack Degrees! (Seems that no one cares anymore!)
No one notices the little stuff...Omicron only attacks Rich White High Vax Nations! (Not Important!)

Crew may believe Expert Vax nations raced to collect Omicron samples before Travel Ban hooter!
Note! This is how WHO spread the first lot, even detailing on how to export the virus to Labs!
Imported samples for even faster Covid spreading Vaxes or "Blind" Outbreak Trials for Mass Vax Race!
Experts should be jailed for repeatedly & knowingly spreading more Covid...(Pure Evil!)

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Stok Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 9:54pm
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The anti-vaccine movement is a highly effective channel for the penetration of far-right ideas into leftwing countercultures.

Thanks for that post H2O, very interesting stuff.
To me this is as much fascinating as it is infuriating.
Watching the growth of the far right, and fairly extreme seppo republican identities seep into our political landscape.

On a side note, ant covid vax and pro-freedom has been binge worthy media for me of late. I've actually been browsing it on Instagram quite regularly (more so just out of shock value - as in how stupid can one get?). Checking in with the usual Victorian suspects (the well known ones, the ones who went down the rabbit holes, and the newcomers).

Now my instagram search page is hilarious - full of far right and conspiracy propaganda!

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Vic Local Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 10:26pm

Stok,
anti-vaxxers and the far right are a natural fit.
You're basically looking at a bunch of "victims" looking for an excuse.
The boneheads are just too lazy or too stupid to make something of themselves so they point their fingers at immigrants and say "they are to blame".
The anti-vaxxers / pro freedumb mob are the same. Yes times have been tough with covid, but rather than pivoting, these people have just had a massive tantrum blaming anyone but themselves. They are addicted to "victimhood", and are still demanding their freedumbs, even when life is more or less back to normal. They will find a new thing to sook about when the pandemic bill passes. This pack of arseholes will need another excuse for being shit at life soon.
Probably a bit harsh. Obviously some of the anti-vaxxers have serious mental health issues and hopefully they get professional help.

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bluediamond Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 11:00pm

Angry disturbed individual @ dick(toughguy)vocal.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 6:31am

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-moderna-ceo-says-vaccines-055048321.html. UPDATE 1-Moderna CEO says vaccines likely less effective against Omicron - FT

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Supafreak Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 6:57am

FRANKFURT, Nov 30 (Reuters) - BioNTech and Pfizer's (PFE.N) COVID-19 vaccine will likely offer strong protection against any severe disease from the new Omicron virus variant, BioNTech's Chief Executive told Reuters, as the firm weighs the need to upgrade its commonly used shot. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/biontech-ceo...

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shortenism Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 7:26am

Yep bitterness and anger spews from VLs mouth constantly. but who can blame him. He’s a victim of programmed abuse by the system and we are witnessing the all to often occurrence of the victim radically defending their abuser.

It’s messed up I know. All we can do is be a sounding board i’m afraid.

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Vic Local Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 7:27am

Or you could say, I just don't tolerate fools well, hence my annoyance with you and that pillock burleigh.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:02am
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Blowin Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:19am

Far better assessment than that steaming pile of shite unloaded by Monbiate (?) in the Guardian.

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Blowin Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:31am

People were talking about the best comparison for Australia’s covid situation. Not Florida.

Try Niger

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/niger/

Similar population size. Dry, warm country with population concentrated in a few urban areas. Virtually no vaccination. Severe nutrient and poor diet amongst population. No covid mitigation such as lockdowns, masks, social distancing.

Perfect parallel with Australia. Niger statistics and case fatalities will no doubt be sky high and display just how necessary our mitigation effects have been….

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Craig Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:39am

Wow, high death rate there Blowin.

259/7,007 = 3.7/100 ie approx 1/30...

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Vic Local Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:40am

Only an idiot would think Niger (rather than NZ) is a sensible Covid comparison for Australia.

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shortenism Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:47am

And the 41 staff are vaccinated..? Are these jabs really offering the freedom we were promised.. Scamwatch!

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john_c Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:50am
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Yep bitterness and anger spews from VLs mouth constantly. but who can blame him. He’s a victim of programmed abuse by the system and we are witnessing the all to often occurrence of the victim radically defending their abuser.

It’s messed up I know. All we can do is be a sounding board i’m afraid.

Mate I am guessing the vast majority of people that frequent this site feel frustrated with the delusional anti vaxers on here. Hats to off to VL, Roadkill, etc for calling them out. Not sure why I keep checking this thread out, quite the freak show at times, so it does have some entertainment value. It also provides an insight to the thought processes of the 'special' 5%.

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Blowin Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:56am
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Wow, high death rate there Blowin.

259/7,007 = 3.7/100 ie approx 1/30...

Lol.

What about the overall case and fatality rates? The fact of a high percentage of deaths says a lot more about the Niger health system don’t you think.

Unless you’re inferring that Niger has a particularly deadly strain of covid…..which kills hardly anyone.

259 dead despite zero mitigation.

10 deaths per million people doesn’t sound as scary does it?

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bluediamond Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:54am
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Yep bitterness and anger spews from VLs mouth constantly. but who can blame him. He’s a victim of programmed abuse by the system and we are witnessing the all to often occurrence of the victim radically defending their abuser.

It’s messed up I know. All we can do is be a sounding board i’m afraid.

Not so sure Shortenism. I think in the case of VL it goes much deeper...does this article sound exactly like that poster?
'First, based on the results of psychopathy and sadism, we understand the internet troll as someone who is callous, lacks a sense of personal responsibility and enjoys causing others harm.
The significance of psychopathy in the results also indicates trolls have an empathy deficit, particularly when it comes to their ability to experience and internalise other people’s emotions.
On top of this, the interaction between high sadism and high self-esteem suggests trolls are not trolling because they have low self-worth. In fact, this is quite the opposite. The more someone enjoys hurting others and the better they feel about themselves, the more likely they are to troll.'
https://theconversation.com/new-research-shows-trolls-dont-just-enjoy-hu...
Anyway, enough of my time wasted on that particular matter...just defending myself when someone say's they'll 'keep coming after me', even after repeated attempts to keep a conversation civil and polite....

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Craig Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:57am

I'm just going off the data you linked to Blowin which is the total reported cases/deaths as far as I'm aware?

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Craig Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 8:59am
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10 deaths per million people doesn’t sound as scary does it?

Also your maths is wrong.

3.7 deaths out of 100 = 37,000 out of one million..

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Johknee Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 9:03am
bluediamond wrote:

Anyway, enough of my time wasted on that particular matter...just defending myself when someone say's they'll 'keep coming after me', even after repeated attempts to keep a conversation civil and polite....

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Angry disturbed individual @ dick(toughguy)vocal.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 9:06am

Niger is a very poor Third World Country, with very limited global people inflows and a mostly subsistence, village culture which would not have much to do with each other.

Wouldn't that be the opposite of a modern country like Aus or state like Florida?

IE, terrible conditions for a virus to spread.

I think the demographics are very young too.

So not at all like Aus or Florida.

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bluediamond Wednesday, 1 Dec 2021 at 9:08am

Can't i defend myself against constant vicious attacks from an obvious protaganist. This offends you? Everyone who participates on these forums is aware of this guys continual belittling and anger, never lets the conversation go freely, attacks anyone who challenges his view of the world, and when he comes after me and says 'i'm gonna keep coming after you', you single that one tiny thing out, which if you go back through all my posts before he started attacking me, you'll see i've been nothing but pleasant. You should take a good look at yourself too dipshit.