COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

Government needs to investigate Petrovsky vaccine, it could well be the safest , most effective, long lasting vaccine yet .

Given what’s happening in Europe as we speak don’t be surprised if lockdowns start to occur in Australia next winter. Winter will coincide pretty damn close to when most Australians 6mth vaccine effectiveness will have waned. That is unless we all continue to have 6mthly boosters. Pfizer must be rubbing their hands together!!

Over 50% full vaxed Europe has just skyrocketed past No Vax era covid peak > infinity & beyond...
Longest highest continuous spread of Vax / Covid / death (Choose Either!)
https://who.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/ead3c6475654481ca51c248d52ab...

Vax has proved kind to the Pandemic! All Hail Vax! (Cough!)

30th Jan -8th Dec 2020 Pre Vax Europe (Avg/day) : 69,231 case/day + 1,486 Deaths/day
8th Dec 2020 -13 Nov 2021 > Europe Rollout (Avg/day) : 174,411 cases/day + 3,048 Deaths /day

14 Nov 2021 - WHO Hans Kluge (Europe)
"Vax is doing as promised, preventing severe forms of the disease, and especially mortality!"

Not sure if this daft bloke reads his own WHO Vax Chart, that doubles the Covid Rollout death Tally
WHO Rep : "Preventing" (vs) WHO data "100% increase" in death? { All Hail the WHO Expert! }
No apology...just kicks the Skulls aside..#Crunch # Damn! They're my signature Dasek Safari Boots!

Sadly these record peak numbers are being monstered by a new wave of 50+ Mass Vax era infections.
Vax has poked the stick to arc up a stronger Covid > Last Week 2,136,907 cases + 28,309 deaths

Fully Paid up Vax Experts : "Vax is looking up...finish the year on a high! All say aye! Here! Here!"
Pollies : "VIP passes & Xmas Bonus for super Vax Wanerz boosting a record Covid Peak!"
Bully Vaxerz : "Can we kick the fuck outta that last creepy Vax Hesitant locked up in Fritzl's Basement!"
WHO : "Yer getting Masks for Xmas!" Mush! Vaxan, Vaxen, Vaxin, Vaxon, Vaxun ~ wHO! wHO! wHO!
Interplanetary Craft : "Luv to help, but your ruthless World Dictator Dan is threatening to probe us!"

If they’ve got any skin left on them!

Here’s a current insight into the way big pharma does business.
Drug dealers first and foremost with extremely questionable ethics.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-13/sleepy-town-secretive-drug-centre...

If the propaganda campaign against marijuana hadn’t happened in the 20s- 30s and instead if science had looked at its potential for various treatments plus the other uses for hemp , it could be a whole different world.

The cigarette companies would have got hold of it and pumped it full of nicotine to make it addictive.

I laugh when i look into some friends Mull bowls ..very little Greenery in there...70% Tobacco in the mix
Pull 2 or 3 Billys for the Ultimate Nicotine Rush...
These people are NoN Ciggie smokers.

Michael Adam wrote:

I do not fear covid or the “vaccine”.
I do fear the government authorities and their supporters’ actions in response.

What in particular are you afraid of Mike?

Most of my life the U.S has been at/in a war of some kind with somebody.
Interestingly they pulled their last troops out of Afghanistan on Feb 29, 2020, around about the same time C19 hit the streets. Incidentally the US spent 780Million on military in 2020. It must suck to have all that money invested in something that isn't being used. I wonder how the government can afford to not be at war, being the big industry that it is.
Anyway, interesting timing. I guess wars can catch corona virus too.
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55 teens ages between 12-19 in VIC have developed myocarditis after Pfizer jab. Not even the mainstream news can hide it anymore https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/victori...

So do you have the actual data on that. The link is blocked
And if the Herald Sun said the sky was blue I would go outside and check.

Thats pretty bad shortnism. Also this one....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-14/afl-carlton-covid-19-liam-jones-a...
Interestingly his missus also plays AFLW and retired because she refuses to get the jab. She's also a registered nurse. Seeing alot of healthcare workers losing their jobs lately based on their values.

Missed this whole debate and tried to sit on the fence but this is what I have witnessed first hand ; missus is a nurse, just handed her notice in .Went in to do this and their were lots of tears ie her co workers having to resign,long term patients devastated to lose the nurses they have built a strong rapport with.Who will replace them?Management too.The reason they are resigning(the ones that can afford to and plenty would if they could afford it)is the reactions to the jab being swept under the carpet.The horror stories are endless, heart conditions,fluid in lungs, rashes, stroke, miscarriage etc etc.:Listening to them relay stories of the victims is gut wrenching.I'll leave it at that and see how this unfolds.....Slater is correct in what he is saying (his own mother having bad reaction), the vast majority of reactions are not being reported and if they are it is voluntary for doctors to pass the info on, most don't.

Ha ha ha you are making stuff up now. You should always remember......bullshit stinks!

Would be tough to walk away from a career as an AFL footballer. Pretty much the dream job, although he was 30. Still, players are usually pushed before they would jump. That can't have been an easy decision.

Hey shortenism, you do realise myocarditis is also very treatable. It's also 6 times more common in people getting covid than getting the vaccine.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-...
Only an idiot would refuse to take the vaccine due to fear of myocarditis.

Vic Local wrote:

Hey shortenism, you do realise myocarditis is also very treatable. It's also 6 times more common in people getting covid than getting the vaccine.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-...
Only an idiot would refuse to take the vaccine due to fear of myocarditis.

hahahahaha, this is a joke right?

hahahahaha, this is a joke right?
Not at all Burleigh. Read the link.
Or this one. https://www.ajmc.com/view/pfizer-moderna-execs-explore-covid-19-vaccines...
"Cases of myocarditis following a COVID-19 vaccine are rare, typically mild, and tend to resolve quickly—a far cry from myocarditis and other complications that stem from the virus itself"
Like I said before, you'd be an idiot to refuse to take the vaccine due to fear of myocarditis.

Hey Vic. I agree with you, specifically here on this point regarding myocarditis. I have been in agreement with you in a general way in content. Tone is another thing. I understand your frustration. But you just called Burleigh an idiot. Without weighing in on that (can't really.. don't know the man), i will say that two things are obvious, to me. One, throwing links at each other is a bit like throwing little #facts grenades over an imaginary wall at each other. It only inspires each side to dig in and load up their ammo. Think of the Mark Twain quote on statistics, and then replace "statistics" with "#facts." Two, a better approach is to invite said person (whomever) to have a conversation with their healthcare provider. If they do not have one, try to invite them to gain one. Not that easy, i know, what with all the mistrust that has been sown. If you fail on these fronts, let it go.
Sorry to say this to you publicly. Would rather have spoken in private, but i won't get that opportunity. Has everyone surfed today? When these forums get to be too much, i go out for exercise. Can't always surf, but can hike, walk, go to gym (yuck, tho), go for a freshie swim, etc...
Anyways, my two cents.

( Double Trouble Boil and Bubble )
"Pfizer Boob Jobs are a thing..chix boobs grow by 2 cup sizes..
Yes! More than a few blokes had balls swell up...
Lymphs swell 2x from 7mm> 14mm for up to 6 months or more.
This in turn blows up yer Speens 2 x ...even more so in Lab Rats
Hearts swell up...as crew is saying...
Quite a few had complete organs swell up...most of which died but one or two youth survived...just!

Note when Vaxer's immunity fights off infection...the same swelling is presented.
Vaxers call it Marshmallow Head.
Blood rushes to Balloon yer Head to protect yer Brains
Blood swells up yer Tongues to rid pits & Narrow infection opportunity via airways
Yer Eye Balls Swell Up & go bloodshot to block Virus entry & cry out the Virus
Nostrils engorge to block & trumpet out Sneezes & Lymph drainage (Dripping Nose)
As said ...Lose sense of Taste & Smell while Lymphs / antibodies are in play..2wks > 6 months.

Logical to assume the Virus ramps twice as hard to infect a vaxer then sneezed out twice as fast.
Then we have a twice as fast infectious airborne virus infecting twice as many twice as fast (re:2x cases)
See Melbourne Cup do 15 vaxerz one gig...quick as ya like. (Common Vaxer Outbreak) Only natural.
Experts do agree on faster Virology with Vaxers leading to well documented faster larger outbreaks.

tbb is at high / highest risk from both Vax reaction & Covid...for many reasons from birth
High DHT > activates the Covid Spike Protein
https://skindoc.com.au/why-baldness-is-linked-to-coronavirus-infection/
Being a Twin + also being born prem comes with underdeveloped Covid fighting core essentials...
Up to 70% are now born Prem & will face a harder time fighting off new viruses...( How / Why?)

Pregnancy must proceed to full term for offspring to gain fully developed organs.
Every week or month sooner hides inner less developed organs that reduce yer life span.

Example! Most prem babies are born with Reflux whereas Full term mostly aren't...( So! )
This is because a fine band called a (Sphincter) can't grip enough to regulate the Esophagus (So!)
So this means most people (Prems) allow air into the Gut when Drinking /Talking / Eating...
Experts say the Sphincter can develop fully thru life but it don't...perhaps for a lucky few.
It's just that babies grow stronger into teen years then it returns to unknowingly rule yer life.
Only now do Experts hint Reflux is genetic & from prems thru life...you live with it! (Not a TV Ad)

Air turns yer guts into an acid bath so Babies / Big Cry Babies Yawn more to cry out the Acid.
This acid rises and Esophagus opens & air is swallowed when sleeping > Aerophagia! "Eating Air!"
eg: Chewing Gum / Straws / Soft Drinks will also bring it on in healthy folk but not during sleep.

Sleep apnea is a direct result from rising Reflux
CPAP balloons guts of refluxers to literally rip yer Stomach Open (Diastasis recti) tbb has 6cm gap.
As rollout banned all Outpatient access tbb had to self diagnose a worsening dangerous ailment.
Doctor & Physio thought tbb was mad...as this is not yet in text books or online.(Nothing like it!)
tbb went to great detail & gave them a demo of sleep routine & all are on board...now a priority!

Closed CPAP system ramps any fuel you pump into the mix > Like Vax! (tbb's doctor understands!)
No! It's not on "THE LIST" Don't want their stupid Exemption as tbb don't wanna leave the house!
So tbb doesn't get a standard dose but a Steaming Hot Milk Shake of Acidic Vax masked & restrained.
Like a Bond Film...
Yes! Clenched fists / toes / teeth / Shoulders...wake like ya fought off 100 more than the night before.
Requires a Pillow ramp / Mouth Guards / Wrist splints / Chin Straps / Cradle Harness / Mask / 4 x Pills.

Experts say Reflux number (10-20%) that would openly invite Covid into their Organs!
Just by being out'n'about eating / Talking / Drinking as opposed to others. (Vax won't help much!)
Well not unless it can re-educate our DNA to regulate our Sphincter to close out the Virus. Can it?
Experts could convince us to take it ...but can't fool us into thinking we can't eat the virus...coz we can!
They'd know shit about that..trust tbb on that one!
https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/coronavirus/study-peo...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10162835/Bizarre-study-finds-de...
No shortage of Antacid formulas to fight off Covid...
For the record! We sufferers are "Naturally" hesitant with Covid Vax
In China 50% reflux sufferers refuse Vax / World 20% refuse Vax outright...tbb awaits approval...
Call it gut instinct...we just know what rocket fuel will boil us up inside & blow us apart.
Perhaps crew can see that we view the Vax as a danger equally to Covid...not more so or less!

No! No "Common" reflux patients were included in Vax Trials (Despite known ultra high virus risk!)
Nor Kids / Preggos / Elderly / Frontline / Disabled + No screening or excluding of previous infected. Lazy!
Also light on Blacks / Indians ( Wealthy white menopausal Woman were over represented )
Experts claim Vax is not population control to protect only Lazy wealthy mid life infertile white / Asians.
Just trying to cut down on ICUs.

Crew are smart enough to suss it out!
Usual Vax trial Phase 4 of (Seniors & At Risk / Frontline) was bypassed or was it?
Rollout Phase 1 (Seniors / At Risk / Frontline) was in fact an open Phase 4 Trial > Hence High casualties!

The usual nonsense.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59283128. Austria is placing about 2 million unvaccinated people in lockdown from Monday amid record infection levels and growing pressure on hospitals.

Our full vaccination rate across the whole population is about 66%. A lot depends on how much we can boost that in coming months. If a child vaccine is approved and available early next year we should get to a significantly higher figure before winter rolls around. I think we need to recognise that even the best case scenario will involve brief limited local lockdowns.

Thanks wax24. I understand your point but changing the minds of conspiracy theorists who don't want to change, and aren't being logical, is extremely difficult. They need professional help.
My comment about being "an idiot to refuse to take the vaccine due to fear of myocarditis" isn't aimed at the hard core anti-vaxxers. It's aimed at the procrastinators and waiverers. I have zero tolerance for racists and covid conspiracy theorists. because if their ideas spread, it harms everyone. It would be nice if the conspiracy theorists just went back to fake moon landings and Area 51, Those nutty ideas are pretty harmless.

Gee, imagine if Australia tried this!!

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2021/11/15/europe-covid-austria-lo...

B.B.Blitz wrote:

the vast majority of reactions are not being reported and if they are it is voluntary for doctors to pass the info on, most don't.

Just on this point in Australia its up to the individual to report online your health status, adverse reactions, you get asked 3 or 4 times after the Vax and its very straight forward.

I focus][quote=B.B.Blitz wrote:

the vast majority of reactions are not being reported and if they are it is voluntary for doctors to pass the info on, most don't.

B.B.Blitz is basically saying most doctors are part of a giant conspiracy to conceal negative health impacts on their patients.

What a fucking insult. GPs and other doctors have been busting their butts for the last 2 years and you're accusing them of compromising their patients health for some non specified reason. Back in the box you shit human being.

Vic Local][quote=I focus wrote:

B.B.Blitz wrote:

the vast majority of reactions are not being reported and if they are it is voluntary for doctors to pass the info on, most don't.

B.B.Blitz is basically saying most doctors are part of a giant conspiracy to conceal negative health impacts on their patients.

What a fucking insult. GPs and other doctors have been busting their butts for the last 2 years and you're accusing them of compromising their patients health for some non specified reason. Back in the box you shit human being.

Vic, Dr's have been silenced by APRA since the beginning of the roll out. This is facts. So if they wanted to speak out they face serious fines or even being deregistered. There is a reason nurses and drs all over the world have taken a stance against this jab and now find themselves out of a job. This isnt fantasy, this is facts.

MSM have a new narrative about downplaying side affects, which is the dribble that you are now sharing. MSM and the government are in bed together, surely you understand this.

Well Burleigh, I'm just going to put you in the scum bucket with all those other people who like to yell "facts" with zero evidence to back it up. You can't handle medical professionals not vomitting out your preferred anti-vax agenda so you accuse them of a giant cover up. That is so deeply offensive to people who care deeply about their patients' health.
Fuck off clown. You'll get no respect from me.

Here is an actual doctor reading the letter Vic

Also to back up my facts regarding frontline workers, you can use google or look at any protest over the last 6 months.

Using insults only makes you look like a fool.

Vic Local][quote=I focus wrote:

B.B.Blitz wrote:

the vast majority of reactions are not being reported and if they are it is voluntary for doctors to pass the info on, most don't.

B.B.Blitz is basically saying most doctors are part of a giant conspiracy to conceal negative health impacts on their patients.

What a fucking insult. GPs and other doctors have been busting their butts for the last 2 years and you're accusing them of compromising their patients health for some non specified reason. Back in the box you shit human being.

I guess at best you can say its interesting... here in WA there has been some hesitancy likely due to no virus and life carrying on as per normal unless you want to enter the state but sooner or later COVID is coming for all of us
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In discussions with people still deciding I usually offer the advice "go see your GP he / she will act in your best interests no matter what."

Without exception GP's have urged their patients to get vaccinated.

Anyone know what percentages of frontline health workers have taken a stance against this jab and now find themselves out of a job?

ABC radio said I think it was less than 5%?

Does that sound right?

Burleigh, do you have any numbers?

Not having a go, serious question.

I focus][quote=Vic Local wrote:

I focus wrote:

B.B.Blitz wrote:

the vast majority of reactions are not being reported and if they are it is voluntary for doctors to pass the info on, most don't.

B.B.Blitz is basically saying most doctors are part of a giant conspiracy to conceal negative health impacts on their patients.

What a fucking insult. GPs and other doctors have been busting their butts for the last 2 years and you're accusing them of compromising their patients health for some non specified reason. Back in the box you shit human being.

I guess at best you can say its interesting... here in WA there has been some hesitancy likely due to no virus and life carrying on as per normal unless you want to enter the state but sooner or later COVID is coming for all of us
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In discussions with people still deciding I usually offer the advice "go see your GP he / she will act in your best interests no matter what."

Without exception GP's have urged their patients to get vaccinated.

I don't doubt that a high number of Dr's do believe that vax is the right option, however the ones that don't have been silenced by their governing board (see the video above)
On the Today show last week they were interviewing a medical officer (sorry i don't have his title or credentials right now) he basically said that ANY doctor that provides an exemption to the vax will be audited and fines or deregistration could apply.

freeride76 wrote:

Anyone know what percentages of frontline health workers have taken a stance against this jab and now find themselves out of a job?

ABC radio said I think it was less than 5%?

Does that sound right?

Burleigh, do you have any numbers?

Not having a go, serious question.

Sorry mate, i don't have numbers. QLD health says that 4000 people have been stood down but i think that includes all staff, not just nurses & drs) There have been frontline workers at rallys openly speaking out against it. The border rally had a head nurse from Murwillumbah and there were nurses at the huge rally in Melbourne over the weekend.

Based on this it looks like less than 1% of doctors and nurses. It could be much higher amongst ancillary staff but that is less of a problem.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hundreds-of-hea...

Based on this it looks like less than 1% of doctors and nurses. It could be much higher amongst ancillary staff but that is less of a problem.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hundreds-of-hea...

Did I miss something in that vid?

it was about mental health from lockdowns?

Nothing to do with vax?

freeride76 wrote:

Did I miss something in that vid?

it was about mental health from lockdowns?

Nothing to do with vax?

I watched that video a few months ago and it had the Dr reading her letter from Ahpra regarding towing the line with Government vax rollout. Sorry if it wasn't in there, i will find it later today. Im doing things on the run right now

It might have been, I could have missed that bit.

freeride76 wrote:

Did I miss something in that vid?

it was about mental health from lockdowns?

Nothing to do with vax?

Ok i got it. From 31 Minutes on. Let me know your thoughts

burleigh is just another one of those cooked units, who, when pushed to provide some evidence to justify his wild conspiracy theories comes up with the following: some bloke on Today Show last week (I forgot his name), another unnamed nurse from the northern rivers, and some complete BS about nurses being a major part of the Melbourne protests.
Every single nurse, doctor, and allied health professional I know has complete and utter contempt for anti-vaxxers. My ER nurse friend desperately needs a holiday and she can't get leave because they have to treat a stream of anti-vax fuckwits.. This puts her in danger and compromises the treatment of every other patient in the unit.
burleigh, your opinions are complete and utter garbage. Nothing more than unverified drivel from someone with zero medical training. Fuck off clown.

BTW, has anyone seen Burleigh and blowin in the same room?

Vic Local wrote:

burleigh is just another one of those cooked units, who, when pushed to provide some evidence to justify his wild conspiracy theories comes up with the following: some bloke on Today Show last week (I forgot his name), another unnamed nurse from the northern rivers, and some complete BS about nurses being a major part of the Melbourne protests.
Every single nurse, doctor, and allied health professional I know has complete and utter contempt for anti-vaxxers. My ER nurse friend desperately needs a holiday and she can't get leave because they have to treat a stream of anti-vax fuckwits.. This puts her in danger and compromises the treatment of every other patient in the unit.
burleigh, your opinions are complete and utter garbage. Nothing more than unverified drivel from someone with zero medical training. Fuck off clown.

Hey Vic, If you want to be taken seriously tone it down with the attempted insults.

In this video you can hear Dr Carolyne Bosak read her letter from Ahpra. from 31 minutes. If you want a serious conversation you will listen to this.

And the guy on the Today Show was Prof Chris Perry - President of AMAQ

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All you've proved there burleigh is you have completely cooked sources for your completely cooked opinions.
You're actually asking me to take tiktok videos seriously while ignoring my sources that include respected medical journals like The Lancet.
If you want to jump down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, go ahead fool, but don't expect to publish your crap here without getting mocked as a mouth breathing imbecile.

Vic Local wrote:

All you've proved there burleigh is you have completely cooked sources for your completely cooked opinions.
You're actually asking me to take tiktok videos seriously while ignoring my sources that include respected medical journals like The Lancet.
If you want to jump down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, go ahead fool, but don't expect to publish your crap here without getting mocked as a mouth breathing imbecile.

Fools want to remain fools, only because the truth requires change. Goodbye Vic im out of the conversation with you.

burleigh, the video is rubbish. A brief comment about self harm edited and therefore, being out of context, irrelevant. Then a rambling question from an unidentified bloke who has nothing but anecdotal evidence and does not appear to accept that expert medical opinion might be more accurate than his view.....and that's the first 2 minutes. Sorry but I'm not enough of a mascochist to watch the rest.

Haha far out Vic tell us how you really feel mate!

Expletives aside, it seems a real stretch to say that such a huge proportion of doctors would go against their Hippocratic oath and not report genuine serious side effects. As a professional in a different line of work I can say that myself and all of my colleagues take their ethical responsibilities very seriously and I can only imagine doctors to be even more serious given they literally have people's lives in their hands. Not that it would be everyone - I'm sure there are some doctors with unscrupulous motives but to suggest that serious adverse side effects are not being passed on by a significant portion of doctors just seems too far out there, and as Focus said it's really easy to report adverse side effects, so anyone not reporting them you would have to question whether it's that serious.

blindboy wrote:

burleigh, the video is rubbish. A brief comment about self harm edited and therefore, being out of context, irrelevant. Then a rambling question from an unidentified bloke who has nothing but anecdotal evidence and does not appear to accept that expert medical opinion might be more accurate than his view.....and that's the first 2 minutes. Sorry but I'm not enough of a mascochist to watch the rest.

The video was for the reference to the Ahpra letter only. starting at 31 minutes.

So what's the problem with the letter? It states the obvious, doctors are responsible for the advice they give their patients and may be held to account if it is contrary to well established evidence. The same applies to public statements made as a medical practitioner.