COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

Vic Local wrote:

https://twitter.com/chachac87311797/status/1458305151731523588?s=21
One of shortenism’s fellow travellers was in Bendigo today.

One of the smarter ones…

I cant believe it!!!*

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16659587/brits-booster-travel-quarantine-s...

* Said no one ever

Institutional Child abuse. This madness needs to stop.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-child...

Blowin wrote:

Institutional Child abuse. This madness needs to stop.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-child...

You seem more cooked than normal today blowin. Long night on the gear or early start?

Who you calling cooked. Hopefully you haven't bred VL, if you have and think this is ok you are more bat shit crazy than I thought.

Yep those crazy conspiracy theorists suggesting that a 3rd shot would be required to maintain 'freedom'... No stopping at 3.

There’s only two things Vic Local can’t stand :
1/ People being selfish

2/ When people won’t inject into their children an experimental substance which has serious health risks for young people, because his own irrational fear of a virus with over a 99% survival rate leads him to believe that his own two doses of the Magic Vaccine still leaves him unprotected.

100% survival rates for kids.

Deaths for under 18 years is rare. Most but not all have an underlying health condition.
100% survival rate is just wrong

No the survival rate for children is not 100% . Many children have died in both the US and UK. While some US states have run out of paediatric ICU beds. As Australia opens up unvaccinated children will be at risk of serious disease. The fact that the risk is much less than for adults does not mean that children should not be vaccinated.

The only thing less reliable than a Scott Morrison plan is a Blowin statistic.

But we all know princess snowflake doesn't deal in truth

"The fact that the risk is much less than for adults does not mean that children should not be vaccinated"

What a load of crap roadkill. Children should definitely NOT be vaccinated with an experimental vaccine ever. You nor anyone else has any idea what effects it could have over the longer term. Leave the kids alone.

Ha ha says the bloke whose knowledge of the subject is........below the threshold of measurement. Give us a laugh shorty quickly off the top of your head explain how an mRNA vaccine works.

Give us a laugh Blindboy….explain how exposing a child to potentially fatal heart inflammation to “protect” against a virus which has almost no serious effects on children is justified.

Also noted that the “vaccine” doesn’t prevent infection, transmission, illness or death from the virus anyway.

More fear mongering from another instant eggspurt who wouldn't know a B cell from a Q cell! On the basis of trials the vaccine has been approved for over 5s in the US. Child covid admissions to ICUs, generally considered as "serious" are high in some states and numerous children have died. In Australia, thanks to high vaccination rates, lockdowns and masking, we are in a much better position and can afford to wait until we have the data from the US roll-out. Approval will almost certainly be given next year as the side effects on the heart have been rare generally mild and easily treatable.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/covi...

I heard blowin has a magical chicken..that croaked...did it turn into a frog?

So blowin's chicken was waundering around outside doing what chickens do..cluck cluck cluck. And through an open window it heard blowin mumbling...vaccine...covid...death...so it cocked it's head..looked confused and carried on..cluck cluck covid? Cluck cluck vaccine? Cluck cluck cluck crooooooooak.....it fell over dead. Even blowin's chicken died because of the covid vaccine.
No doubt blowin will try and convince us chickens have a 100% covid survival rate.

Roadkill wrote:

I am undecided yet on the necessity to vaccinate young kids, i think once we get to 90%+ vaxxed over 16 years old and more data is captured around the world..it may just not be necessary. It could be 10 and over get vaxed or something else. Still thinking this bit over.

Happy to be corrected if I am wrong and happy to have every person vaxxed if that is the correct and best thing to do.

Shortism, you dumb fuck. I posted the above a few days back.

You are definitely not the expert that will convince me what is right.

Again, you read what you think I say, rather than what I do say.

Quick question BB…..why do you believe you’re a medical expert when you are a high school teacher?

Is it the three years of uni you did 50 years ago confusing you? You sound like someone who did a bricklaying apprenticeship five decades ago trying to pass themselves off as a structural engineer.

Ah roadkill here comes that rage again.. Don't smash too many plates, beat up your wife or give yourself a migraine.. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just feeding you rope.

I don't give a shit what you wrote a few days ago your post was very clear on your stance, which is again generated by fear and suggestive that kids should be vaccinated. I take as a direct threat to them. Leave them alone creep.

Off course you don't give a shit...that would mean you would have to read what people say.(before you post irrationally stupid stuff)

Quick answer. Not an expert but know enough to find expert opinion. Also after 30 years of teaching senior Biology, I know quite a bit more than the basics across, genetics, disease the immune system, and human biology generally. Your memory is going mate I have explained this several times before. As for what I studied 50years ago, Biology has changed rapidly and constantly over that whole time and those changes have been reflected in frequent curriculum updates. And since you question my qualifications what stage did you leave school?

I did four unit science in year 12 so that’s pretty much everything you’ve got to impart.

Hey….we’re both experts!

Sorry to disillusion you mate but from memory 4 Unit Science was only one quarter Biology. So if you got 100% (ha ha ha)....you might know a quarter of what I know....then again, what year was that? So, no not even that, probably 20 years behind the times.

I like when you said that thirty years of teaching disinterested 14 year olds about how to use a Bunsen burner you claimed to have learnt “ more than the basics of genetics, disease, the immune system and human biology in general”.

Goldmine of lolz there bloke.

I suppose Kerry Chant has you on a red phone hotline in case they need a “bit more than the basics about genetics”?

Got to be honest….I was pissing myself writing that last line. Tell me you didn’t just allude to being a geneticist! Amongst other medical sciences of course. I did my HSC 30 years ago( sweet Jesus!) so you’ve probably made huge leaps in your contributions to genetic science since then.

That’s hilarious.

Think I might have to start calling you Elon.

Mate you really are desperate aren't you? Not many 14 year olds in HSC Biology and knowing how to use a Bunsen burner doesn't get you a Band 6 result which many of my students achieved. If you feel inadequate why not apply your abilities, which you apparently rate highly, to some formal study? There are lots of opportunities to study online at whatever rate you like.

blindboy was a teacher! oh thats priceless. im glad i saw this thread!

I thought about formal study but completely lost interest when I considered possible outcomes. Become a marine biologist alongside a million Germans who’ve never seen an ocean and cry at the sight of a dolphin?

Then I might land a job counting jellyfish if I’m lucky or raising fingerlings at some hatchery….fuck that. I want to be amongst nature not writing reports for 90% of my week or studying cells through a microscope.

So Temet nosce and all that, I considered getting a skippers ticket and becoming a pro fisho but the love of fishing dissipates pretty quick once you become an industrial scale fish killer.

So I’m just happy observing nature at my pace and of my own volition. Surf, watch the ocean. Go out in my little boat and work on improving my knowledge of nature and improve my catch at the same time. That’s enough for me.

Yesterday I even took a six pack around to the legendary old boat mechanic here who is retiring and he was kind enough to teach me how to strip and repair my outboard. That’s a pretty handy skill to obtain.

Formal education in the form of a degree has little appeal except for perhaps language.

So I guess it’s up to you to be the resident genetic specialist on Swellnet.

And proud of it mate. Proud that hundreds of my ex-students were so well prepared for the pandemic and immune to the bottomless pile of bullshit that has emerged during it.

loungelizard wrote:

blindboy was a teacher! oh thats priceless. im glad i saw this thread!

Could you not tell by his relentless tone of condescension and assumed authority? That’s the voice of a bloke used to standing in front of squirming young kids and telling them how things are going to be. That’s why he is always astounded when the same tone has zero effect on adult surfers who grant him no superiority.

Blowin education, however you get it, is its own reward.

BB, I do read what your write. And calling you a creep on reflection was a bit harsh. I know how nicknames can stick in the classroom. Sorry, I was in a rage. But pls leave the kids alone.

Retired now shorty.

Germany joins the list of countries suspending Moderna for under 30s , and Australian TGA is considering it for 5-11 yo https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-recommends-only-biontechpfi.... And again each country stats differ on both Pfizer and Moderna

Fella gets shot by cops in NZ and dies. Tests positive for COVID at the post mortem and gets added as a COVID death.

Taiwan halts 2nd-dose BioNTech vaccinations for ages 12-17 amid concerns of myocarditis. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4340862

Thanks for the article Supa, will never happen here.

Latest advice has been published this week and continues to disregard the option of not having a 2nd vaccine if you get a form of carditis from the first shot. I'm trying to be reasonable as I digest the information, but there is just no conceivable medical reason to insist that someone continues down the vaccination path if the stats are as low as they say they are. Extrapolating the numbers, there'd be a couple of hundred people across Australia that end up unvaccinated.

Kids are over 10 times more likely and we have no clue what long term damage we might be doing to their heart, regardless of whether they develop acute symptoms.

Problem is they are demanding it, because all teenagers care about is getting back to normal. A 14 year old girl passed out at my kids school yesterday and ended up in ED a couple of hours after the jab. Apparently, she's fine now.

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/11/covid-19...

Highest vaxed nations feature as highest spreaders of Infection & death.
Rollout shows more vax equals more Covid devastation.

Qld CHO "We'll be bringing in Virus thru the borders in vaccinated people!"
Qld Premier "This Virus will hunt you down!"

Qldurr tbb is rightly scared of Double Dosed Southerners so checked up on Vic / NSW Health stats.
NSW / Vic (Over last 2 months Unvaxed drop 5-10% each week to below 50% infections
(Double Vaxerz) keep increasing their spreading rate of 3% week over 2 months (30 Oct) 21.4%
1dose + 3weeks ( 9.2%) + 1 dose > 3wks (25%) (Sept read had them above Unvaxed & Very Hot!)
Oz Vaxerz are or soon 50-60% of cases (Can ask Vic / NSW for well overdue tally!) Just a Joke!

Evil Experts have set loose their fastest VIP spreaders to ramp Mass Covid World Wide.
We see here that Wealthiest Healthiest Fastest Rollouts are spewing record covid over the poor & sick.
The Vaxerz Covid spreading rate grows faster beyond belief...
Vaxerz kill off poor people's slower Covid strains to breed premium strength more diabolical strains.
Every vaxer presents as a walking time bomb that lights up the room. One Sneeze > Kaboom! As in that Cup Do!
Vax Rate > Infection Rate > Death Rate (All "Race Leaders" are pulverizing Non Vaxed)

Vaxed Crew can save heaps by buying a one way ticket to these Top Vax Hot Spots...no one ever leaves!

1.(117.1%) Gibraltar > 1/5 Infections > Covid is ramping & death (1/344)
2.(99%) Palau Rollout ended (May) > All 8 cases were post rollout
3.(98.7%) Cook Islands (Zero Covid cases pre rollout + 1 imported case post rollout)
4.(96.1%) Maldives > 1/6 infections > Covid cases + deaths rising (1/2250)
5.(89%) Isle Man > 1/8 infections > Covid cases + deaths rising (1/1427)
6.(88.6%) Chile > 1/11 infections > Covid cases ramping + deaths (1/510)
7.(90%) UAE > 1/14 infections > Dumped Vax > Cases dropping - deaths (1/4693)
8.(87%) Portugal >1/9 infections > Covid cases + deaths keep rising (1/557)
9.(86%) Belgium > 1/8 infections > Covid is ramping + deaths ( 1/444)
10.(85.9%) Denmark > 1/14 infections > Covid is ramping + deaths keep rising (1/2120)
11.(85%) Singapore > 1/26 infections > Covid & death are at record peaks (Stats are racing)
13.(84.25%) Canada > 1/22 infections > Covid cases are rising + deaths hold high (1/1306)
14.(84.1%) Netherlands > 1/8 infections > Cases pushing a record high + deaths rising(1/922)
15.(83.56%) Italy > 1/13 infections > Covid cases rising fast + deaths rising (1/455)
16.(83.52%) Malta > 1/12 infections >Covid rising + death is constant (1/959)
17.(82%) Cayman Islands > 1/19 + massive 1,528 cases > Volcanic eruption disruption
18.(81.5%) Australia (Mass Peak Vax = Mass Peak Cases are still way up high!)
19.(81.2%) Iceland >1/23 infections are ramping record highs > deaths never rise over 3/day
20.(80%) Spain > 1/9 infections > deaths 1/534 (Calm before the storm as cases are rising!)
21.(79.8%) UK > 1/7 infections 1/480 Be excused for thinking UK is an actual Covid Factory
22.(79.2%) NZ (Mass Peak Vax = Mass Peak Cases-death period stretching longer)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

(40-80%) Is just an extension of more & more equally infected Vax Covid Landscapes as seen above.
Crew wouldn't let their Mum fly out to these High Vaxed Nations...most are VIP covid graveyards
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(40.2%) World Rollout 542,166 cases/day > 10,196 deaths/day (Pre vax comparison below)

WHO keep crying for Wealthy Bullies to spread their Super charged Virus over poorest Nations.

Each time WHO rollout Vax in poor nations they spike a massive Covid Outbreak.
Vax Spikes in PNG / Benin / Somalia were not welcome & possibly ended future WHO Vax schemes.
World Salutes the poorest lowest vaccinated nations for defeating Covid & WHO.

0-10% nations mop up 1,000's cases/day to Zero Covid in record speed without spending a dollar.
We could sack our experts & adopt proven grassroots leading examples to rid our virus in no time.
Lowest Vaxerz are famous for reducing Covid cases...Poorest hesitants are #1 Covid removal specialists.
All of these Poor Nations have way lower Covid rates than Leading Vaxed Nations & Oz (No Contest)
(3-4%) Sierra Leone / Malawi
(2-3%) Somalia
(1-2%) Benin / Tanzania / Nigeria / Burkina Faso / Mali / Sudan / PNG > (Yes! Lower Covid rate than Oz)
(0- 1%) Burundi / Congo / Haiti / Chad / South Sudan / Yemen / Madagascar / Guinea Bissau

Back to the beginning before the Experts fucked up our Planet & locked in Covid Boosters 4 Life.

(0.00%) World without Vax 219,996 cases/day > 5,279 deaths/day (See Above for Current Covid)

There is no Vax Mandate ...Never was! Never will be! #1 Lie in History told by our most trusted people!
All data which ever way points to Vax spreading & killing more + now more than ever...it's gotta stop!
Please lock down this evil before it destroys our Planet!
Aussies should hire these darn clever poor folk to mop up our Expert's outta control Vax mess! NOW!

shortenism wrote:

Fella gets shot by cops in NZ and dies. Tests positive for COVID at the post mortem and gets added as a COVID death.

BS..gets added as a shooting death with covid.

Fuck, you really are an idiot.

From Tbb:

“Highest vaxed nations feature as highest spreaders of Infection & death.
Rollout shows more vax equals more Covid devastation.”

Any thoughts on this one?
And the rest of Tbb’s post?

If your asking Roadkill, he’ll call tbb a moron and you one for even querying it and then go on to demonstrate his inability to accept anything other than what the morning show told him just now. So avoid him. I’m sure other rationale ppl will have a view.

shortenism wrote:

If your asking Roadkill, he’ll call tbb a moron and you one for even querying it and then go on to demonstrate his inability to accept anything other than what the morning show told him just now. So avoid him. I’m sure other rationale ppl will have a view.

lol. At least try to have some semblance of truth to your posts. It ain’t hard for those with half a brain…which explains why you struggle.

tbb is the most reliable source of misinformation, distortion and outright lies on the site. Best ignored.

The truth? Hahaha you can’t handle the truth.

I got better things to do with my Friday morning than an online slinging match with a traumatised retired teacher called roadkill.

Will check in later to go through no doubt comment after comment of you hammering home the ‘truth’.

Good explainer on the new antivirals.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03074-5?utm_source=Nature+Bri...

Tbb?
You must have got those numbers from somewhere?

blindboy wrote:

misinformation, distortion and outright lies

almost a good name for a band

that's my contribution to what has become an absolute toilet of a thread

Riffing on The Damned's live album 'Mindless Directionless Energy'

Yeh I think Eric Clapton and Van Morrison are thinking of using it for the collaboration they are supposed to be working on.

The warnings in that article are a tad too late for us BB. The Aust Govt has just spent $300m purchasing the Merck pill. A single 775 person drug company funded trial, no longitudinal safety info, can’t be used in pregnancy or those who might get pregnant, unknown drug interactions, scant details on contraindications.
Plenty of good evidence for a whole host of other repurposed drugs having efficacy as early treatment.
Money well spent you reckon?

"Plenty of good evidence for a whole host of other repurposed drugs having efficacy as early treatment."
Such as?

tyler the government quite rightly got slammed for not taking a punt in buying more vaccines when the opportunity was there. This time they decided that it was worth the chance that the drug will come through the trials and get approval. If it did and they hadn't bought it, they would be in the same position as they were with the Pfizer vaccine, at the back of the queue.

"Money well spent you reckon?"
That of course depends on the objective of the purchase.
Given what we know about sports rorts, car park rorts, rural development rorts, dollars for CCS, this shitful govt spends money to win elections and repay their mates.
I'd suggest Scumo spending the tax dollars on covid treatments is mainly about making him look good and deflecting attention from his shitful performance in procuring vaccines. If this Merck treatment actually works, well that's just a bonus for these rorting scumbags.