Interesting stuff
Rumour has it that Australia has become the only country in the world where a new strain of Coronavirus has been detected and it needs to be 'wiped' out.....it's called the Caromavirus.
IPCC 2022 report will actually include revised/vastly more in-depth solar/magnetic forcing in the modeling (not done previously), that will be of interest.
Freeride...most hardcore young surfers I knew either worked their slot off for a period or grew/ sold drugs.
It’s still possible to do both and if anything, the consequences have gotten less strident for the latter.
I do agree with you that it’s gotten harder. I think Australia has gotten much worse in that regard , but still youth doesn’t give a fuck. I know back then there was plenty of older people who thought I was a loser cause I prioritised surfing , bongs and girls. But youth doesn’t care .....or didn’t care.
Yep I spent 8 years OS and the thing that really played on my mind was the cost of housing, general cost of living and the increasing casualisation of the workforce back in Australia, and knowing that the longer I left it the more difficult it would be to deal with when I got back.
Aussie ingenuity in times of crisis when you're shit out of luck.
I was the opposite Andy.
I moved to WA and it was like my whole world opened up....I could be or do anything. No limits. Endless opportunity.
It was fucking incredible.
I didn’t even know such an amazing place existed till we stumbled on it. There was no internet or magazines blowing it out. It was like I had a life before and another life after . All of a sudden I somehow found myself steering a boat along the back of a tropical coral reef , trolling for fish as long as myself after surfing pumping reef passes and thinking to myself.....I’m not sure what I did to deserve this , but.....fuck yes !
The penny is starting to drop (literally!) re: travel insurance and the implications of getting stranded OS without it.
I just canned a Hawaiian trip due in a couple of weeks. My insurance through the credit card (bought ticket last year) has a 'epidemic/pandemic' clause. And you haven't been able to get any COVID-19 cover since end of Jan.
The virus itself doesn't phase me, and I'll be heading to Indo as usual, I reckon. Well, considerably cheaper, perhaps. BUT...who knows what's round the corner?
And will there be a COVID-19 epidemic to go with the usual gastro one up the NW this year?
The other week I almost pulled the trigger on a 9'0 Brewer for pick-up over there. This week pulling the plug on the whole operation!
And the Aussie dollar is shithouse.
Ah well, swings & roundabouts.
Nice VJ, interesting indeed.
I reckon that if you avoid the shitters then the North West would be a great option. Avoid the camps full stop and you’re only exposed going to town.
The more remote the safer you are .
That is very interesting, VJ. Not really consistent with their message to date.
And Blowin yes I've experienced it myself, experienced it up at Crescent Head a couple of years ago when the coastal sea breeze was keeping us cool at 24/25 degrees while Kempsey was baking around 47 with a fresh westerly.
Saw the small overhead clouds move offshore and me and a mate waited for it to kick in. First swirls and bursts of heat, pushed back by the sea breeze again until boom, it burst through and it was like the oven door was opened up. A record breaking day and driving home I was worried it would overheat with it stuck on 47.
I experienced it back in Adelaide this Christmas when most December records were broken, hottest overnight temperature around 34 degrees! That's the early morning overnight low! 47.7 degrees during the day.
When I grew up there 40 degree days were the scorchers now, it's consistently 40-45 range during summer and now hitting higher..
FWIW Craig and Blowin, will it make much difference in the overall projections? The influence of CO2 will probably remain, only we'll have better models. I was very excited early on (you can find the link to the IPCC page on the solar forcing thread in crystal ball) that it would change everything, but a more measured approach is that everything will add up to an overall influence and we'll be able to guess "everything" a bit better.
I wonder if we'll be able to see the current CO2 pause from China in any climate data?
The only other thing in that field that concerns me is the models using datasets that have been smoothed/manipulated, and all the crying foul that (for eg) the 1930's/40's got cooled. That's its own kettle of worms.
Pupkin, I've also cancelled international travel, it's a bummer but probably for the best.
I wouldn’t be going anywhere away from support systems/ family.
I reckon this virus is way worse than anyone is letting on. Sure , many people escape the worst of it but most stats are saying that the situation is serious ie hospitalisation in about 20 percent of cases.
This is no flu. I believe it’s man made and capable of all kinds of kinky shit that is not being broadcast. Organ failure, permanent dysfunction.....and that’s for those who survive. Don’t think that it’s a pass / fail scenario between catching it and living and catching it and dying.
If you think a few waves is worth it then good luck but I aren’t taking that risk.
If it’s like the Spanish Flu then the second wave will be the devastating period. Save your money . If it’s as hectic as it’s meant to be then the economy is going down and you’ll be needing every cent you’ve got.
And soon they will close the schools ......No surf trip for you , Stu .
Blowin', out of interest, what makes you think this virus is man made?
https://greatgameindia.com/indian-scientists-discover-coronavirus-engine...
vs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/02/02/no-coronavirus-w...
a battle for information, what to believe?
Travel ban on S Korea:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/coronavirus-update-live-australia-r...
Victoria in recession, no we can't have that:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/andrews-urges-stimulus-as-st...
Coronavirus buying panic spreads to alcohol
updated with 'tiny pocket of Sydney emerges as Australia's coronavirus epicentre'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8073127/Coronavirus-panic-buyin...
check the bootful in the pic, impressive!
Too suspicious.
Blaming it on eating animals which they’ve consumed for thousands of years.
Outbreak starts within a few hundred metres of the highest level biolab in China.
China destroying wet market.
China denying access to US Centre for Disease Control.
Chinese secrecy and obfuscation from day one
Heaps more if you look around. Maybe true , maybe not. I’m of the personal belief that it’s man made .
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/chinese-scientists-find-coronavirus-did...
Fair enough, thanks for that
I'm kinda inclined to believe there's more to it than eating some random bat too.
What I do know is that it's starting to cost me in terms of lost or deferred business.
Should I send the bill to the CCP?
The conspiracy tossers are having a field day with all this. apparently its all to do with the 5G network and Bill Gates, China unleashed it to quell civil unrest, World Governments want everyone to take a vaccine containing Nano bits to control our minds, they are bulldozing thousands of dead bodies into mass graves etc. etc.
The human race was getting smarter and then the internet came along. Cheers
Not sure if it’s man made or not, but if any early season Outside Corner swells pop up I’m not staying home just because of Corona Virus.
Surfing empty pumping OC fuck me that’s too good to refuse
Never surfed OC....is it any good ?
It looks sort of fat ? Surely there’d be a thousand other better waves in Indo to surf unless you just like the Bali/ Ulu vibe ?
I reckon freeride and blowin are both correct - in equal measure re. surfers... but I think there's much more going on...
I think a lot of the fear around this virus thingy comes form the uncertainty and the 'known unknowns' surrounding the virus
uncertainty has the power to shatter markets, relationships, alliances, and obviously confidence
the cover ups and misinformation coming from many governments and media is just undermining any credibility these institutions once had, creating massive uncertainty and fear
with this virus, first it was passed off as 'just a flu', two weeks later, even the guardian conceded... 'it's not just a flu...'
then we were told it's a virus passed on to humans by bats...
later we were told it came from the wuhan live meat market...
now, increasingly, it looks like it came from the high level disease facility in wuhan, ....but that possibility is barely mentioned in most media...
then, we were given 14 day quarrentine periods, only to find out it has a 28 day incubation period at least...
then, we were told it's not behaving like a 'normal' virus...
and, it's spreading in an unfamiliar manner...
can't infect kids, now infecting kids...
all this misinformation and mismanagement coming from the CCP initially, then other governments, and then conveyed to us by a complicit western media is just feeding the fear
the fear that there is much more going on than we are told...
the fear that there are cover ups happening across the world...
the fear doctors and citizens are being punished for trying to tell the truth...
the fear that this is not just a 'not normal' virus but potentially a man made / manipulated one...
the fear that this is possibly a weaponised virus that either escaped, or was released by someone with ill intentions...
scoff if you will, ...but it's really not that far fetched. especially considering the other dodgy shit going down in china ie. real modern day concentration camps, and possible mass genocide
literally nazi germany like shit going down in 'our age', on 'our watch', whilst the usual 'nazi this...' and 'nazi that...' chicken littles are suspiciouly quiet...
like it or not, we live in an age of fear and conspiracy. a zietghiest incubated and fostered by both sides of politics
this may all turn out to be 'just another flu', or just a naturally developing strain of virus, but until we find the truth, and governments start behaving with more transparency, the fear will only grow, ....justified or not...
this is the conspirational times we live in, and that feeling is justified, because governments, pundits, and a bunch of useful idiots from up down, left and right have created this environment, in a race to the bottom of mammoth proportions. people literally cannot trust the institutions that once served the public well, ...reasonably well anyway...
the trust is gone across the board, and there are many people, of all colours, stripes, and persuasions, that are to blame, many good people, as they all have gotten caught up in a race to the bottom in a hyper game of propaganda
trust is the real issue here, it's gone.. manipulated, misused, and squandered... crazy times ahead...
sing along...
'you don't know what you've got til it's gone...'
Fuck....I had no idea.
That Scardy fella freaking rips
Scardys G.land collection is gd.. U-tube
3:05pm
A man has been Tasered following a toilet paper dispute
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/coronavirus-update-live-australia-r...
Society beginning to fray at the edges... for TP
Only surfed it a couple of times but the waves I’ve had out there have left me wanting more.
It would of only been as big as the waves in Scardys vid.
It gets much bigger and hollower. I’d go as far as saying some of the biggest tubes in Indo have been ridden at Outside Corner.
And the bit I like the most about it is you can actually get set waves there. It’s not like Padang or Nias or Deserts, HT’s etc.
from what I’ve seen it doesn’t get crowded, and it’s Bali so it’s easy in regards to access, accomodation etc.
And you get to surf an 8-9ft board in quality, down the line incredible waves in boardies which doesn’t happen very often down here!
The gossip on the grapevine a few weeks back,the conspiracy theorist were claiming the virus was smuggled out of a lab from Canada back to China by the Chinese?They don't think the lab or technology was the Canadians?
It didn't come from the bats or the market.
Its SARS with a component of HIV?not saying its true just thought i'd share the conspiracy.......oh the tangled web we weave
something something empty Outside Corner something something
You had me at selamat datang
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Why would they want it to spread when they themselves or their family could be infected?
Edit: this was to blowins deleted comment above ^^^
I saw something a while ago a virologist was talking about the corona origin and that they understood its origin from the genetic data, wasn't a lab thing.
A scientist at the forefront of an international effort to track the deadly coronavirus outbreak has shot down claims about the disease’s origins, including that it escaped from a Wuhan laboratory after being genetically engineered.
Trevor Bedford, of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, rubbished stories circulating on social media that Covid-19 was created at Wuhan Institute of Virology or elsewhere in China, rumours that prompted the World Health Organization to warn of an “infodemic” of false news on the outbreak.
“There is no evidence whatsoever of genetic engineering that we can find,” he said at the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Seattle. “The evidence we have is that the mutations [in the virus] are completely consistent with natural evolution.”
https://www.ft.com/content/a6392ee6-4ec6-11ea-95a0-43d18ec715f5
Everyone aware of the pending ban on cash purchases above $10K ?
WTF ?
Legal tender is going to be illegal. Blows my mind.
The WHO.....classic .
The WHO.....classic .
Anonymous Swellnet poster:
Let's all laugh at the ludicrous fear-filled fools panic-buying toilet paper.
NEK MINNIT...
I think this virus is man-made and was deliberately released to collapse Western civilisation.
Jesus wept. Or pissed himself laughing. Or both.
"Everyone aware of the pending ban on cash purchases above $10K ?"
Yeah jailed for spending your own money in cash its where the rubber hits the ground in draconian government
All the while the right wing still screaming about invisible enemies turkeys voting for Xmas did someone say?
"we are all working together" said Somoko.
Yep, that's incredible, and also there's laws app that let them drop that amount easily as well.
Not good at all.. basically paying the bank to keep your money! Check this out..
Yet another undemocratic outcome in the endless line of collusion between the illusory dichotomy which is the ALP /LNP single narrative neoliberal party .
Dictated to by the IMF.
I think we mentioned this last year? Wrote to local member, apparently many did as they shelved it quickly. Is it back on the table? Observations follow, not financial advice:
Negative rates did some funny things when recently tried in Europe. For a brief while, they were paying people to take loans in one of the low German countries. ("Sweet! I get paid to take a loan! I love deflation!" However - the house I purchased with it just halved in value, but I'm up for the full amount...) So maybe the smart money might be smarter in paying the bank the -1% as they just bought 2 houses afterward...
Very important to note that negative rates see time consume the capital of a society, this will impoverish it (eats its surplus which can be invested or deployed to make/build real things) - IMO
Negative rates - and negative yielding Bunds/EU bonds - caused havoc and some of the world's larger financial institutions and famous hedgies were getting rooms made up filled with cash. Cheaper to do this. Others fled to crypto.
It's similar to if you store silver bullion, there is a fee per year to securely store it (and guarantees, etc). This is in effect a "negative rate". But what you are storing is something with intrinsic value (ie, it's a chunk of a metal) - not a digital fiat, again IMO
Maybe the guy who paid US120K for the banana on the wall was onto something... (subsequently it was eaten by a performance comedian, so hope he was insured)
It's funny how people are so opposed and get their hair up to policy that is basically just common sense.
If you are a government you obviously don't want people earning large amounts of cash (untaxed money) because obviously you lose tax revenue when people do and you don't want them making transactions with large amounts of cash because again you lose out on GST etc
And realistically other than criminal activity who is going to use such large amounts of cash to buy or sell anyway?
Even if you were to purchase say a second hand car/boat/caravan for say $10,500.00 from someone with a private sale, would you want to do it in cash?
Or would you do it through a bank account or PayPal etc?
It's much safer for both parties to have it traceable and it's better for everyone including me and you if the government actually earns money from it being taxed.
Sorry for being so logical.
Cash is freedom . Cash is independence.
Why should the government be a party to everything I do ?
Just because you don’t use cash doesn’t mean others don’t.
Here’s a secret Indo.....the government isn’t doing this to nab tax evaders. The largest amount of tax evaded by any measure is by the transnational corporations which pay ZERO tax. And the regular tax dodgers such as takeaways and tradies transact in sums less than $10K.
This is all about enforcing bank involvement in our society. They are aware that negative interest rates will see everyone withdrawing their cash and jeopardising the ability of banks to maintain their capital requirements. And the only reason that the banks would broach their capital requirements is speculative activity which creates instability in the banking sector ie they’re gambling with your money.
It’s about creating a cashless society so that every can be controlled remotely in the same manner as the Chinese Social Credit System......you don’t behave in the manner the government likes ( drinking too much , dissenting , breaching arbitrary social expectations, too many days surfing ) then the government restricts your access to credit and your life is .....over.
Fuck that , Indo. Have a little think about it mate.
It might be all well and good with your mate Scomo in power , but what about if Albo got in and started making decisions you didn’t like and you couldn’t say a word because they’d cut off your credit ? What if it ends up like China and you get offside with one of the local council members and your money gets cut off ?
Why would you give them your power ?
Exactly! And that will be just the beginning. After a period they will reduce it down to $5k, then $2k on their way to be a truly cashless society which is the end goal.
If you have cash you have control.
Btw, I deal mostly in cash and even when I come back home. I'm trying to minimise my digital footprint as much as possible.
Sorry sounds like conspiracy theory stuff, im sure Jim banks would agree with you.
Banks are involved in our life's anyway, pretty rare to come across someone without a bank account and most of us have loans or have had loans and credit cards etc.
A cashless society is going to happen no matter what, it's just a natural evolution, don't know about you but in Australia i rarely use cash im sure a huge chunk of society is the same, in time they will print less and id expect in time it will gradually be taken out of circulation, who knows when though 20 years 50 years?.
Chinese Social Credit System is interesting, just don't vote for the Greens and you wont have to worry about any type of system popping up in Australia.
Personally i dont have any fear of the government controlling me, maybe because i feel very free and independent now but when i was younger and on the dole for years they basically controlled my life, i had to jump the hoops for $$$ and was always worried id be get cut off or have to pay back money etc or attend interviews etc and they knew basically everything about me and then after a while you get trapped into a habit of dependency.
Yeah , you’re right Indo.
It’s Sci fi , fake Hollywood stuff. All made up.
Though I do hope your kids are as gormlessly compliant as yourself when they grow up .....or they are fucked.
Have it cunts