Interesting stuff
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"Indo just reported its first two cases of Coronavirus.
G Land to yourself !"
100% it will affects tourism in Bali and could even affect higher end surf resorts and even charter boat bookings especially surfers with family's or cashed up and a bit more fussy surfers..
But IMHO it will have little affect on the more roots style end thing, single travellers or more budget end of things think Nias, Lakey peak style etc
Those that will cancel will be filled up by guys either thinking it's going to uncrowded because of it or the cheap flights.
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100% for Bali, Bali is going to get hit real hard but Bali is different to other areas of Indo, it's tourism is really driven by non surfers, surfers are just the icing on top.
But other areas of Indo are driven mostly by surfers and surfers think differently and take different risk than the average person.
Will be interesting to see the affect, but I'm not expecting uncrowded waves, but i am hoping that upper market gets hit, crossing fingers some charter boats etc go bankrupt.
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Dunno if I'm indicative, but I'm watching it closely.
If the Woz pulls out of Plengkung then I'm in.
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TBH, right now I'm only thinking about empty Speedies.
Some measure of reality might seep in later on when I mention it to my wife.
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Thanks VJ, I don't think I'll ever lose that sense for adventure. And if you need any tips re backcountry skiing, camping etc, hit me up.
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Well, first I would marvel at the amount of, and size of, boats needed to transport hundreds of thousands or millions.
Then I would wonder how they will survive the fairly inhospitable places those boats would normally land.
Is this a trick question?
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A bit alarmist there Blowin?? A really shitty situation over that side of the world yes, but "hundreds of thousands - millions of military aged males" - not really!!!
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"“ NGOs” which are paid for by those who want to see a border less world"
Nah.
The NGO's are trying to get people out of harm's way as the likelihood of conflict increases.
I'm with Channel-Bottom: the premise is OTT.
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"what do you mean “getting them out of harms way “
As Turkey escalates war against Syria, is what I mean. Yesterday they openly declared war on al-Assad and the area is further destabilised.
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It's not an invasion. They're fleeing a civil war in their own country.
If there was no war, there'd be no movement of refugees.
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"You have to think of your family."
Blowin, few posts above talking about coronavirus.
Well what about the Syrians watching their country being torn apart, countrymen killed in droves, as they look at their loved ones and wonder what they're gonna do?
Get the fuck out any way you can.
Sure, the usual media suspects will attempt to convince you it's all aggressive youth, and they'll try to back that up with footage of said young men throwing rocks - caged animals lashing out. Dont be fooled, it's a demographic mix and includes families, young kids and women, who you think people should protect.
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"Look at those people. They should be defending their country not invading someone else’s."
Really...? You've experienced war and can vouch for how you'd act?
You understand all the intracacies and contradictions of the Syrian War and would tell people who they should lay down their life for.
C'mon...
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You've obviously never suffered gastro at the Bluff, Stunet.
Brutal.
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There's over three million Syrian refugees in Turkey, all who began fleeing for safety when the war started, now that Erdogan has relinquished his deal and escalated the war, they again seek safety.
To think that they're all young men....hell to even think young men are over-represented in the mix, is just a nonsense.
I know you're invested in the idea of non-porous borders, but people have escaped fighting to protect their families since time immemorial, there is nothing unique about this.
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Because of images from the camps over the years.
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Sigh....
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Guffaw.
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Ever met a refugee Blowin?
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@Blow-in,
Im half-Dutch, my grandparents escaped the fighting of WW2.
Wondering if, had you been around, you'd have shot them yourself or got someone else to do it?
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Blowin you began a post above stating that ‘you don’t get it’...
It’s the only comment of yours amongst all this that actually makes sense! ;)
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How do you define 'refugee'?
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Good way to not answer a question. That's not what I was asking.
How do you define 'refugee'? And have you ever met a refugee?
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I'll take that as no, you've never met a refugee and that providing a definition of one might make you contradict yourself.
Thoughts on ant parallels between the current Syrian refugee situation and those from the Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge era?
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You know, you've got a curiously subjective lens on the issue. When I mention news articles, you say they're curated and skewed, but when you mention them or show images, that rule somehow doesn't apply to you.
For years the Turkish refugee camps have been full of all manner of people: old, young, men, women - a displaced society. Now that their safety in the camps is no longer assured, I can't grasp why you think it'd only be young men who'd mobilise towards safety.
To side-step any prejudice I just typed 'Turkish, refugees' into Google, hit 'images' and started scrolling, checking shots from news sites of all stripes, and sorry to say, but there are many women and children. Sure, in some pics, young men massed around the head of the queue where the barbed wire is. I expect that'd be the case in any queue the world over.
But to look through all those shots and say they're all young men is an out and out lie. They show many women and children who can only be classified as refugees.
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Another Blowin blowup.
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We're all Reffos Now...
Today @ tbb's Local GP has Corona Surfluenza Judges Tent in the [Grotty Car Park]
Corona Isolation Booth comes with Coveralls / Gloves / Mask & Lotto Barrel.
Nothing Scary! 100 Alerts > Keep Away > Back Off Now > Detour > Isolation Unit!
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Alan Jones! Now there's a queer bird.
Hysterical. Flamboyant. Relentless. All day, every day; a one-man articulated outrage machine.
His fans love him.
They also turn a blind eye to the fact that he's, sexually, the biggest closet dweller in Australian public life.
Or they don't know or care. Does it matter?
Then again, why does Alan himself participate in this clownish charade?
Wouldn't he be happier letting it all hang out?
And is his constant and relentless rage connected to this farcical closeted performance?
Come out, Alan, and bask in the sunshine!
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Oh, and I'm guessing that being in the closet as a bonafide bigot on here would fuel much the same relentless, day in, day out, ultimately impotent, outrage, yes?
At least Alan gets paid, I suppose.
Don't worry, be happy!
Let it all hang out!
Have it cunts