Interesting stuff
Absolutely goofy, and worse/different is if the brother comes back a changed man and the way one relates to their very kin changes - sometimes not in a good way. You may not be able to relate and they may not be able to convey. Malaria and PTSD.
Zen, the Kamikaze, the divine wind. Formerly given to the great typhoon that wrecked the Mongol fleet of Kublai Khan that was on its way to invade Japan in 1274/1281... Then became young pilots, turned into cruise missiles which were terrible and effective. Perhaps this revealed the bankruptcy of the strategy that started at Pearl Harbor, once their carriers had been destroyed by the sheer scale of the US response. The bit that gets me is Yamamoto knew this before attacking.
Interestingly, the US 3rd fleet sailed into a truly large typhoon while off the coast of the Philippines in 1944, but their ships were steel and up to 900 feet long so most survived... then the admiral went on to sail it into another large Typhoon off the coast of Japan in 1945.
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/when-a-typhoon-nearly-wipe...
That divine wind really looks after the Japanese. (or tries to)
Also Zen, we have an excellent book called "One Magic Square" (gardening in 1 sq metre lots) written by a Dutch woman who as a child lived in war torn WW2 Holland - no food, all the trees stripped of bark, no animals left, no birds, etc etc. The introduction makes for chilling reading. But it's so easy to follow to grow nice veggies.
Cheers VJ- every cloud as they say.
Here we go.....
And when any of the hundreds of thousands of returning Chinese students are found to have the virus we can just put them in the Australian hospitals that we’ve been told won’t even cope with the medical needs of Australian patients.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-05/nsw-uni-students-temporarily-evic...
“If they are suspected of having COVID-19 they will be moved to a medical facility.”
And the cost of the medical treatment will also be borne by taxpayers as travel insurance doesn’t cover Coronavirus. Better tell your ageing parents not to get seriously ill because no hospital beds will be available as they’ll be used by imported University cash cows who have never contributed a thing to our country.
Is everyone aware that NSW has only 65 assisted breathing units and only ten isolated ICU beds ? Plenty to spare when hundreds of new cases start popping up in a few weeks......probably caused by the influx of Chinese students.
The Universities should be criminally and civilly liable when this gets pair shaped. Not that it’ll make up for a single life lost.
Wonder what will happen with the Quikky Pro at end of March with the spread of the virus.
Business as usual....Michelle Bourez readies for the seeding round .
Truth Time : If forced into an unavoidable decision, would you rather ...
Owe the banks $800K and spend your life shuffling back and forward to your job from your Lakemba home
OR
Be stung by a box jellyfish
Looks like Michel is prepared for the box jelly fish option!
On a 400m2 block no less
“The national median house price”
I thought this must have been a typo or maybe some sly sales spin, but no, it seems that Australia’s median house price is $809,349 and Sydney’s is north of $1 million.
Fuckin hell.
Box jellyfish. You ever been to Lakemba @blowin
Well, both the sting and the house would give you a sense of doom...
Is it true that when someone wins at auction in Lakemba they confiscate their belt, neck tie and shoe laces ?
I’d go the box jellyfish option.
Seriously.
Or to borrow from Mark Sutherland, I’d rather poke a live mud crab up my arse with a burning stick.
Anyone want to hazard a guess at what's next?
The $160k deposit to avoid LMI would probably prevent most of us getting to the stinging stage anyway.
Just before Xmas I bought into a 9 acre block (with sea views!), with a couple of mates, that cost 65K in total.
I also just bought a unit in a town with better surf than yours in all probability, where my mortgage repayments are less than $400 a fortnight.
And where to rent a unit is $350 a week.
Seek and ye shall find! No East coast jellyfish required.
Was there an actual bell that they got you to ring or is that just an urban myth ?
You know ....the bell which signals the absolute top of the market. Just before prices go backwards.
I just had a look at my copy of 'Public Safety and Aquatic Rescue, 34th edition" and if I were near first aid/accessible ambulance, Box Jellyfish is the answer.
Signs and Symptoms
"Instant and severe burning skin pain, with what looks like whip or burn marks on the skin.
Adherent tentacles often still present, especially if severely stung.
Patient may rapidly lose consciousness and stop breathing"
Treatment
"Call ambulance
Remove Patient from water and restrain if necessary
Follow DRSABCD
Flood stung area with vinegar for at least 30 seconds
Pick off any remaining tentacles
Referral is required for all major stings, especially in children"
Or, you could live in cool water locales...
https://www.yourinvestmentpropertymag.com.au/top-suburbs/nsw-2195-lakemb...
If median household income 849pw (assuming current) that's 44K p/a (I know, tax etc) - but that makes the house cost 18 times median income! A far longer sting awaits...
Lakemba citizenry praying for negative interest rates
Gloria, your slip is showing.
Again.
Facto thinks it’s racist to infer that the citizens of Lakemba are Muslim....even though the majority are actually Muslim *. This is how the useful idiots of the fake left are programmed to think. Cry “ Raysist !!!” At any time for any reason , because their role model is Simple Jack and they can’t conceive of an insult that isn’t based on the PC faux moral high ground which no thinking person gives a fuck about .
And he infers the insult with a taint of homophobic slur.
People who think this way need to be nuked from orbit. It’s the only way to ensure the end of them.
*In the 2011 census, the most common responses for religion were Islam 51.8% (8031), Catholic 13.4% (2072), Eastern Orthodox 6.2% (959), No Religion 5.3% (828) and Buddhism 4.3% (666).
Population: 17,023 (2016 census)
LGA(s): Canterbury-Bankstown Council
Federal Division(s): Watson
Location: 12 km (7 mi) inner south-west of Syd...
Lakemba, New South Wales - Wikipedia
In more disturbing news, the toilet paper crisis didn't need this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-05/toilet-paper-truck-catches-fire-b...
And the worst bit is that some poor town with surf “better than where you live “ has just become home to a Guinness Book of Records sized shitstain.
Talk about bad timing.
That Syd uni article, so:
Aus citizen in Wuhan - off to Christmas island and quarantine
International coming via 3rd country - take 2 weeks in a 3rd country, risking them. I hear Thailand is nice on the beach.
Uni international - come right in quarantine on campus.
So... do they all come in at once? Or, in staggered numbers? Do they use communal kitchen/toiletries areas? If they come in staggered, do they infect each other - a new arrival passes it on 1/2 way through someone uninfected's 14 day quarantine, who then develops symptoms 7 days after being released into the student body, and is infectious without showing symptoms shortly after first contact... (remember, in HK someone was infected 10 floors below with a leaking pipe) (Could the latency be longer than 14 days?)... Inquiring minds wish to know...
Besides, isn't it out in Sydney now, with the nursing home and 4 different cases who live within 4kms of each other? (got told that last night)
Food for thought..
The economic loss is going to be massive and it will be amazing what goes up in price or simply becomes unavailable.
Abalone, crays and trout exports all down the gurgler, coming into winter sporting events = empty stadiums for afl nrl and hits to all who supply goods or services to these events, heavy traffic where you live? well that's only going to get worse when people drive instead of public transport, fuel prices go up with extra demand, you're car breaks down, bad luck we can't get parts in, mining, gas and petroleum will freeze up as people become infected and parts can't be ordered to keep machinery and fixed plant running, you took a risk and went to your sisters/brothers wedding up in qld for a long weekend, high temperature, your now quarantined for 2 weeks, but where do you go, who covers cost of accommodation? you were only there for 3 days....
Going to be some big snowball events once people start to become infected.
this podcast helps explain why craig. exxon’s scientists, and exxon had confirmed human-made climate change in the 70s and it was bipartisan policy in the US up to the 1980s to do something about it (interesting listening to george bush snr campaigning on it back in the day). then exxon had a change of heart ...
Not to mention the huge decrease in pollution, CO2 etc as China (and then everyone else) taken off line. As Bruce Dawe wrote
"The earth exhales"
Think of all the happy crayfish, only the occies to worry about
Craig....So far the vast majority of climate change has been theoretical. Good luck trying to impress the gravity of a situation based on modelling. Or it’s based on chances of something occurring ( such as a cyclone or drought ) MIGHT be a certain percentage more likely......too much uncertainty and ambiguity which creates room for doubt.
Bit easier to understand body bags stacked up in a morgue . It’d been harder to argue with climate change if it was visible and delineated to the average person. Get told that the ocean is rising and will drown us for the past two decades then go down the beach and it looks no different from 1995.
You’ll know by July school holidays if Coronavirus is a wash out ....Christmas at the latest. Climate change drags interminably into the distant future.
If surfers of the 70s explored Indo (mostly) without anti-malarials, yet copped the odd bout in the quest for good waves, why are modern surfers so fearful of the virus which thus far has proven to be mild, and even asymptomatic, in fit young people?
Sure, economy, old people, bog paper, but empty waves in Indo during prime season..?
Is the threat being overstated?
I threw the question out a few days ago but I'm still wondering...
seems to me more the threat of no insurance and getting stranded, rather than getting the virus itself.
surfers have got jobs and responsibilities now, the days of feral with months long open ended Indo schedules are long gone.
Theoretical? A warming world, ocean, atmosphere has been theoreticised since the 1800's, hypothesised and then proven in 1938, modelled there onwards and consistently validated.
This ain't no theory, it's proven science!
Yet we're getting a clearer picture now, and that is one of an illness whose symptoms for fit young people are no worse than a cold or flu, if people even recognise they have it all.
Getting a flu in Indonesia is shit, I know, I've had it, but you're hardly gonna get medivacced for it.
I was faced with that very situation.
Most importantly I couldn’t go surfing with a clear conscience whilst others who may be affected were left vulnerable in Australia. They need support.
Then there is the fact that malaria is avoidable for the most part. I was in an epicentre of malaria recently ( so were you ! ) and I didn’t get bitten by a single mosquito. It was the Malarial version of Wuhan . And it wasn’t an issue if you prepared correctly.
Whilst the virus is everywhere and anywhere. The food you eat , the air you breathe .....everywhere. Get in someone’s car.....virus. Sleep on someone’s pillow....virus . Share a room .....virus.
Whatever , Craig.
Stroll down Manly right now and report back on the visible and undeniable effects of climate change over that 200 years. Nearly everyone , unless they were an expert in a particular field , would need someone to explain to them what , if anything, has changed in that time DIRECTLY and SOLELY as a result of climate change . I bet most lifelong locals can’t point to much change with utmost certainty.
But go to Manly now and then return in 9 months and you will be able to tell if Coronavirus is real or not.
And that’s the other thing, there’s still plenty of people who think that Coronavirus is a hoax.....because they haven’t seen it with their own eyes.
We’ve had the “ models as irrefutable evidence “ discussion before .
probably right Stu.
I think getting stranded in Asia or having no insurance coverage is what deters people.
we'll see, might be very short lived effect.
Freeride .....do you really think that surfers don’t do the long haul due to increased responsibilities ?
I dont think it’s got anything to do with responsibility. It’s got to do with attitude. The crew who previously did months long stints weren’t the mortgage/ family demographic anyway . They were young and free.
The young and free don’t seem to have the mojo these days. Different mindset. Not the young Australians anyway.
there's much fewer young and free crew now compared to 70's/80's/90's.
kids in their 20's have got far more responsibility and overheads now compared to when we were young.
I could spend years travelling and know I could come home and find a roof over my head for $50-100/wk.
You ain't getting a roof over your head for less than 200-300 now.
Freeride....I don’t reckon that’s true. The defining trait of people from the 70/80/90s - as far as I am aware - was that they didn’t think of consequences or what happens when the party ends. They just did what they wanted and rolled the dice.
Young crew can still do that if they’ve got some go. They make their own luck. Just as people did then. Might not be able to do it on the dole in extravagance but I didn’t know anyone who was having a good time back then who wasn’t either supplementing the dole with something else or doing it with mates to share the expenses.
The lifetime dairy farmer I had dinner with a few weeks ago didn’t think that climate change is theoretical. It’s making real changes now to farm management that are clearly beyond dealing with normal seasonal variation.
The young and free are in old Hi-Ace vans in our local beach carpark, or playing musical chairs with street parking to sleep the night
And FR - that roof over the head in Lakemba was $520pw on average...
$520pw / $800,000 also = lol yield
Same as they ever were.
Aussies seem to be less motivated now. Plenty of internationals getting around Indo and Oz. Far more young foreigners than Aussies in the North West.
They’ve lost their drive. A lot of young East coast guys seem happy to ride their crutch boards in shit surf instead of chasing quality. Not all but most.
Lol yield !
Classic.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/qantas-staffer-stood-down-after-raisin...
"Last night a Qantas flight due to depart Sydney and fly to London was cancelled after a passenger onboard tested positive to COVID-19."
D'oh.
yeah, backpackers.
but not the hard-core feral surfers.
It was a different world though Blowin. Much greater consequences now for blowing things off for a few years/decade.
And it's not like you can just step back into life the way we could.
Most of that comes to cost of housing.
'74 and you'd be paying 10 bucks a week for an old farmhouse here with free milk.
That lasted, moreorless right through until the early 2000's when real estate boomed.
Those farmhouses are now (if they haven't been demolished) multi-million dollar properties with huge rents.
Sure, mindset has something to do with it, but I reckon basic economics is most of it.
Have any of you driven in an 80's Hi-Ace recently? It's scary. There's your risk taking youth. You feel like you are going to tip forward through the windscreen and if trying to stop on gravel going down hill, you wonder if it will actually stop. And that's before the ride/handling "balance".
Sure , Wally . Like I said ...an expert in their field might recognise the change. But what about yourself ? You live on this Earth too but you felt the need to refer to someone else’s experience.
You know why ? Because you aren’t definitively positive. If you’d never heard or read a word about climate change would you be walking around worried about rising seas ? No , you wouldn’t.
That’s the difference with people believing “ the science “ of climate change and the science of Coronavirus.....because people don’t need to believe the science of Coronavirus. They see people in a China getting welded into their apartments due to contamination and say “.....wait a minute. WTF ! “
Until people start dropping amongst us soonish then Coronavirus is living on hype and crew won’t swallow that for long.
Have it cunts