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Classic stuff Uppity, I think that chick from Promises was the product of many a schoolboy fantasy. Was for me anyway.
Being the big, raw-boned, strapping fellow that you are, I thought you would have preferred the Bananarama cover of 'Venus'?
indo-dreaming wrote:salt wrote:So what are you saying stu? Bands that start out on the Js don't have a chance at longevity? That's crap, I could name shit loads of bands that only got their break because of JJJ and are still going strong after 25 years, You Am I for one. What would have the new bands do? Pitch their music at Triple M, fuck those clowns don't play anything unless it was recorded in the 70s. One guy at work loves TripleM, fuck it drives me crazy, they are still playing the American Made album! Remember that, signs sign everywhere a sign, blocking out the scenery breaking my mind! Fuck now a got that song in my head! Thanks stu
Yeah I don't know if its fair to say if there played or broke on JJJ they don't have longevity, I don't really listen to JJJ these days but i think Australia music scene is better with them around or at least was through the 90,s -00,s.
Maybe its different now though IMO public radio has gone to the dogs and rarely support local bands during hot air time, and JJJ to me sound like every other radio station..or maybe im just getting old i even find myself listening to ABC radio..now that's sad.
Going off topic here but in case you missed it, you might find this interesting salty and indo. http://magazine.100percentrock.com/news/201401/40428
Pretty sure these guys were not on the J's playlist .... they did after this album was released find themselves amongst others ( including the dixie chicks ) on a NSA watch list ....
at a serious time , they produced a serious album and perhaps took Patriotism back to its roots for which they were not seen as the ideal US citizens .
Regardless LIVE they were awesome .
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"apologies for only audio , but there are other live vid's on the side bar . i think the production of this album ( and the time it was launched ) was what made it stand out from other material they have produced , for my ears anyway .
As for the Cherry Bar and James Young , I'm pretty sure ? i staggered out of there after a big night ; post GP day .... shit gets REAL there , and by the sounds of it , is staying real ....
Indo, I'm not saying YAI were discovered by the Js but they would never have had the national exposure if it wasn't for the Js. I didn't realise they supported powder finger early on. My first YAI gig had powder finger supporting YAI, admittedly this was a sound as ever tour, powder finger had only released parables at that stage. I'm not saying the Js are the be all and end all, if you don't fit into kingsmills definition of good music you are not played that seems to be the way it is. Anyway off to work now to play radio station changing wars with the TripleM bogan.....I'll hear barnsey, and farnsey and all those fuckin songs I have heard a bazillion times before.
This one's for you Salt!
And this one too Salty, because you probably haven't heard it in awhile-
(Cue evil laugh) Bwaaa ha ha ha haaaaa!!
Sheepdog wrote:Saw this guy live in Adelaide in the 90s ( can't remember the name of the venue - corner of West tce and Hindley)...
Fuckn unbelievable...... One of the best gigs ever...
Was at the infamous show late 80's when Henry still had post Black flag long hair.I think the support was Massappeal and the venue was Le Rox.Prior to going on Henry decided to play some James Brown over the p.a to which there was a response "Get that nigger music off"Now Henry must of heard this as by the time he came on stage he proceeded to batter anyone who came within 3m .At one point I remember him grabbing a full can of beer and exploding it on top of this guys shaved head till it crushed dead flat.Maybe it was the offending racist?Quite a spectacle for a underage minor at the time.I saw him a few times after but always seemed a bit lame after that.Best Black Flag frontman? Keith Morris
Fraser, I love this song. Pretty mainstream for 'ol Henry.
Zenagain... Bit of a "japanese" feel to this old classic ;)
As an aside I remember reading a review of Parables For Wooden Ears in rolling stone when it first came out. It was pretty disparaging , writing off Bernads voice and their whole approach and Didn't foresee much of a future for them. How embarrassing .
fraser-gordon wrote:Best Black Flag frontman? Keith Morris
Seconded. In fact, the quality of vocalists matches chronological order: Morris>Ron Reyes>Dez Cadena>Hank Rollins.
Stunet... I was more into the west coast/ fresno stuff.... Original Vandals, D.I, Nazi bitch and the j***, though Minor threat from out east were ok... (ps - note a really young "flea" from red hot chilli peppers in D.I clip from suburbia movie)
Hey sheepy seen some great shows at the Old Lion Cramps,Butthole surfers,Hard Ons,Beastie Boys But these guys take the honors for the best performance at that venue that I saw.Insanely loud but crystal clear my ears have never been the same.
Arigato sheepy-san.
Sore wa subarashi utadatta.
That's Incredible. Hill Street Blues. Dallas.
Quincy!
ha ha ha- classic.
Douitashimashite, Zen.....
Swell building here..... Swell building in alot of places around Oz....... Big waves deserve good amp up music..... This tune has awesome soft intro for mind pictures of dawn, waxing, slo mo paddling and big duck dives...... Then boom, take off, biggest sweeping bottom turn you've done in ages..... Fins zinging.... Oh yeah......
ACDC's "hells bells".... Fuckn spare me...... yeah yeah bells beach/ "Aussie" band... I get it.... But nothing beats early acdc (track 1)..... And track 2 below is a far better "bell" song .....
Danzig's a joke...the man & the band. At least The Misfits were intentionally funny and ridiculous (those lyrics!) and kinda knew it...'cept for Glenn of course. He has got some pipes but:
Rollins when he first came out here (aforementioned Adelaide Le Rox gig) was seriously psychotic. The first two Rollins Band albums LIFETIME & the live DO IT reflected this intensity. Everything after, meh. On an AC/DC tip, the last decent thing he did was the LET THERE BE ROCK cover with Hard Ons? Yeeeha, and those good ol' boys are still going!! Coming to a footy club near you!
Danzig ridiculous? Nay...
Hmmmm, sticking to a book/Danzig/Rollins theme, I'm sure everyone knows of this:
http://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/zines/3174/
& here's Henry's reaction:
http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/01/02/henry-rollins-awesome-response-to-...
& Glenn's reaction (apparently):
http://iglootornado.blogspot.com.au/2010/07/final-blow.html
Humour, kids, humour...it's what makes life bearable and saves us all in the long run.
merry Christ-Mass from Hank & Glenn!
Awe shatner...I was really hoping it was gonna be funny.. The first scene was good, then it died in the arse.....
yeah, it's pretty gay...literally.
not that's there anything wrong with that...
Whacked on 'Lost Souls' by Doves last night. What a cracking album.
Hey, shats!!!! Sorry man, but I thought your iron sheiks link was one of the lamest "punk songs" ever..... Try these out, might put some lead in ya pencil ;) 2 aussie tracks, and a track from the grandfathers of hardcore......
Been playing these guys a bit lately. I prefer the start on the version I have. This ones a little tamer.
Seeing this band tonight at my local pub
indo-dreaming wrote:Seeing this band tonight at my local pub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-v7nRiUMoU
Chuck a browneye for me, ID.
Yo Dawg, surely you jest? I mean about the Sheiks. I thought they'd be right up your alley, so to speak. Maybe I should have posted S.S.M.C (sex slave in the magic cave). With your extensive time hanging around the ol' new century & other Adelaide environs back in the daze, surely you must've seen 'em live? Ah well, maybe they're an acquired taste...like Grange or Southwark Stout or F.U.I.C. To each their own. A dash of vintage Septic Sawblades perhaps, or a later drop like Glen & the Peanut Butter Men? The question begs, what is punk??
As for your contributions, er, not really my cup of splosh, ol' bean. I never really got into the Pommy, sorry, Melbourne thing (Mommy?!). Perdition, Depression et al. The music, meh. And too much pfaffing about what with all the leather & mohawks & shit. How do you skate with army boots on, let alone run around if need be? Go for a surf and then change back into grimy jeans and leather? Might as well be a bikie. And like bikies, always seemed a little too try-hard in the tough guy stakes for mine.
And I could never really understand the 'hardcore' feminism of G.A.S.H. I mean GIRLS Against Sexual Harrassment. Isn't that kinda sexist? I guess WOMEN Against Sexual Harrassment doesn't really, ahem, WASH?
As for Discharge and other, what third generation Pommy punkoid bands (some say second, some disagree. Fluid definitions/classifications abound)? Nah. Crass, I could admire the politics, but the sound? Not for me. Not when at the same time the US thing was kicking off. Soundwise, Discharge vs Bad Brains? Exploited vs Black Flag (pre-Rollins)? Blitz vs Battalion of Saints? I admired the UK political bent as I said, but then DKs had it for me in that department there too. I like subversion as a political tactic, and humour works wonders in social/political engagement. And Plastic Surgery Disasters is a masterwork.
Not that I dislike UK punkoid stuff. Love first generation stuff. Liked The Stupids. Saw up close the madness that was Extreme Noise Terror & original Napalm Death. Now that is some kick-arse end-game shit! Discharge may have been an influence (couldn't really be grandfathers though?! Godfathers?) but so was D.R.I and The Accused.
I dunno, but having said that, get into this, Sheepdog, E.N.T: Work For Never!
Primal screeeeeeeeam!
Random fact - my first ever genuine pub gig was with the Iron Shieks at Le Rox, in about 1991 or thereabouts (I was still in Year 12 at the time.. dunno how we got all of our school mates in the door!). Their bass player Gerry McCaffery ended up mixing most of my bands through the late 90's and early 00's (one of the best mixers in town!).
Shats.... "The accused"????? Ohhh perlease...... We're talkin' Martha splatterhead accused, right??.... Mate if you think danzig was a joke, then I don't know what to say about the accused...... Yeah, they had one good song, that's it (Slow death)..... I infact have the album right here in mint condition... Don't know what I was thinking when I bought it.... Oh hang on,,,, that's right, I was young and stupid ;)..... Nah slow death is a good song, but all the other stuff is just so repetitive,,,so repetitive..... repetitive........ Also got Dks Plastic surgery disasters, Fresh fruit, In god we trust, went downhill after PSD.....
Dri..... meh......... But as I said pages ago, I listened heaps to west coast usa stuff...... Best thing to come out of east coast was minor threat......
As far as melbourne punk, couldn't give a fuck if they wore pink undies...... If it sound good, cool.... But when in Adelaide, I did notice an inbuilt hatred of all things victorian..... I thought the old canetoad/cockroach rivalry was full on, but fuck, couldn't believe the shit in S.A....
True story - I went to Vicco from Adelaide to see some friends. When in melbourne, I bought a car... Drove it back to Adelaide..... Anyway, the footy was on when I got back, so I drove out to west lakes cos' me mates had tickets..... The new afl side, the crows lost..... Went back out to the car park after the game, and my mirrors were smashed, broken aerial, scratched paint....... Fuck......Me S.A mates were sort of ashamed.... Not their fault.......Anyway, a couple of weeks later ( still hadn't changed the rego - silly me), on sat' night I was slowly cruising down Hindley st..... The crows had just beaten Fitzroy 1/2 an hour earlier...... Well........ Fuck me..... A bunch of yahoos blocked me in and started yellin', chuckn shit at the car..... Full on.... I jumped out of the car ( which shocked them) and stormed up pulling out my wallet....... I held up my drivers licence in the "leaders" face..... Their fuckn heads went down..... Toldem' I bought it over there and hadn't changed the rego over...... "Ohhhh fuuuckkk sorrrrryyy maaate".....
Yeah yeah..... Get a grip.....
As for your link, not into the death metal..... But at least we agree on Fresno/SF/LA....
As far as Adelaide bands go, I'll stick with what I said pages ago, and throw in "filthy scumbags" - lager drinkers from hell..... Classic....
Now, shats.... Because you don't like pommy punk, and because I'm a fuckn c***...... He you go mate... Enjoy...... ;)
Gordon Bennett, what a bleedin' 'orrible racket. Nothin' like some fourth division punky punk to get punk-drunk to.
And I don't know where you got that I don't like UK stuff from? Oh yeah, probably from not reading my post...I guess it was a bit long. Jeez, yours was all over the place like a mad-woman's shite, hey?
E.N.T death metal?? D.R.I (speed) & The Accused (vocal madness) not an influence on the nascent (pommy) grindcore bands like the aforementioned Extreme Noise Terror & early Napalm Death?? Minor Threat (of Washington DC) the best thing to come out of the whole east coast?? What about Glenn & the good ol' boys? I thought you being a big Where's The Pope fan you'd like Gang Green at least? No doubt about it, you CAN live without it?!
Bugger about your car. Where'd ya park it again? Wasn't a George Costanza effort was it? Gotta watch them uppity crows-supportin' spazztics!
And here's some DKs for ya...from their shit album FRANKENCHRIST...jeezus wept:
or these dudes, dunno where they're from but...east coast? South of no north?
or one of my fave punkoid songs ever
http://m.
&feature=kp Yessss Mr. Shatner D.R.I. classic stuff
soup kitchen, couch slouch, nursing home blues, how to act awesome stuff, in fact the whole dealing with it album, beginning to end,
Though if you didn't love when you were 19 you're not likely to love it now
Shatner'sBassoon wrote:Gordon Bennett, what a bleedin' 'orrible racket. Nothin' like some fourth division punky punk to get punk-drunk to.
And I don't know where you got that I don't like UK stuff from? Oh yeah, probably from not reading my post...I guess it was a bit long. Jeez, yours was all over the place like a mad-woman's shite, hey?E.N.T death metal?? D.R.I (speed) & The Accused (vocal madness) not an influence on the nascent (pommy) grindcore bands like the aforementioned Extreme Noise Terror & early Napalm Death?? Minor Threat (of Washington DC) the best thing to come out of the whole east coast?? What about Glenn & the good ol' boys? I thought you being a big Where's The Pope fan you'd like Gang Green at least? No doubt about it, you CAN live without it?!
Bugger about your car. Where'd ya park it again? Wasn't a George Costanza effort was it? Gotta watch them uppity crows-supportin' spazztics!
And here's some DKs for ya...from their shit album FRANKENCHRIST...jeezus wept:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP5tNX2KZ0
or these dudes, dunno where they're from but...east coast? South of no north?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBi3U123JxQ
or one of my fave punkoid songs ever
Washington Dc - about 20km inland from chesapeake bay, which last time I checked was on the east coast...... But hey, if we are gonna get into a semantic nit picking competition, I'm up for it ;)
As for your "And I don't know where you got that I don't like UK stuff from? Oh yeah, probably from not reading my post...I guess it was a bit long. Jeez, yours was all over the place like a mad-woman's shite, hey?" ------ Um, I did read your post, bloke..... Maybe you forgot what you wrote.... Alzheimers.......Go back and check your 28/4/14 10.13pm post....... 2nd paragraph 1st line - comparing melbourne punk (which you made quite clear you don't like) to pommy punk.... So, If you don't like "A", and then compare it to "B", I'd take it you don't like "B". Then of course there's your 3rd paragraph - "3rd generation punkoid bands", comparing pommy bands to USA.... So, you tell me where I got my opinion from re' your distaste to pommy punk........ And you reckon my post was like a mad womans shite lol... Well at least it didn't come across like a dementia patient doing stand up....... hehehe...
Yeah, got frankenchrist....Bedtime for democracy...... No comparison to early stuff....... Denial is a wonderful thing......
Bad brains jammn about reggae jehovah.... Hardcore man!!!!! Hardcore..... Give me "aint no feeble bastard no fuckn scapegoat" anytime.... Hardcore politics during the coal miners riots, Thatcher, and northern Ireland v narcissistic whinging about self abuse under the carter regime..... Says alot....
You're ok shats ;)
Sheepdog, you're not the proofreader for the Weekend Australian Financial Review are you?
"Minor Threat (of Washington DC) the best thing to come out of the whole east coast??" Yeah, we know where DC is, we also know it was its own 'scene', maybe I should've cap-locked WHOLE re: the east coast? Big call... No NY, Boston, even Jersey (Glenn!) or any other Eastern seaboard scenes in the mix AT ALL? Ah well...
Quoting myself again here (yawn):
"As for Discharge and other, what third generation Pommy punkoid bands (some say second, some disagree. Fluid definitions/classifications abound)? Nah. Crass, I COULD ADMIRE THE POLITICS, but the SOUND? Not for me. Not when at the same time the US thing was kicking off. SOUNDWISE, Discharge vs Bad Brains? Exploited vs Black Flag (pre-Rollins)? Blitz vs Battalion of Saints? I ADMIRED THE UK POLITICAL BENT AS I SAID, but then DKs had it for me in that department there too. I like subversion as a political tactic, and humour works wonders in social/political engagement. And Plastic Surgery Disasters is a masterwork.
NOT THAT I DISLIKE UK PUNKOID STUFF. LOVE FIRST GENERATION STUFF [like The Damned...previous link]. LIKED THE STUPIDS. SAW UP CLOSE THE MADNESS THAT WAS EXTREME NOISE TERROR [death metal?!!] & ORIGINAL NAPALM DEATH. NOW THAT IS SOME KICK-ARSE END-GAME SHIT!"
Easy to miss, I guess.
As I said, above and before, POLITICALLY, I'm simpatico with the UK stuff of any generation, punk or otherwise...from Stiff Little Fingers to Crass to E.N.T, let alone guys like Dick Gaughan, Bragg & the Red Wedgers, The Smiths! Thatcher's politics, along with Reagan's, is something we're all still dealing with now (Maggie's privatisation and union-busting & Cowboy Ronnie's trickle-down Reaganomics).
Tough times indeed under those two demagogues.
Melbourne, Australia, same period, roughly (early 80s onwards). Cain state government & Hawke/Keating federally. Hasn't got quite the same cache, I'd venture. Narcissistic whinging and self abuse about state abuse under the Cain regime, sounding like Chaotic Dischord, anyone? Anyone??
Give me Venom P., Cosmics, Powder Monkeys, Bored!, Splatterheads, any of Fred Negro's manifestations...any day of the not-working week! Horses for courses (Flemington in this case).
Hardcore politics, but, never goes astray...and punk's not dead!
Here's some (feel free to giggle...it's allowed & we're obliged):
Monk's not dead!
Shats....... Googling, researching, cutting and pasting... Love it..... Yeah, I work for the Financial revue..... lol..... Good to see you use inverted commas..... Must be a fellow member of APRA.......
Well that's right re' Cain/Fraser, Hawke..... Throw Dunstan - Bannon in as well...... But S.A and Vicco did have some good sounds..... I wont hold that against Where's the pope, or Depression, or Permanent damage..... At least the lyrics were controversial, political, confronting...... And Venom p were cool..... "We sat and talked all night....He said he likes people" ;) The birthday party are god like..... "Oh god please let me die beneath her fists"......
Re - minor threat... I just said they were the best..... Not the only...... They were quite original, pushing the short song thing, and not making a big deal about "I take drugs", which was quite brave for a punk unit.... Straight edge........There was other ok east stuff....I just found west coast more to my taste... Whether it be Sanfran, L.A, Diego, or Fresno .... And yeah, i know Fresno is inland...... So don't go anal on it :)
As far as Aussie punk goes, nothing beats the embryonic early Brisso scene....... 4zzz..... Sir Jo....... Getting arrested for fuckn walkn 2 abreast..... Good times.... Perhaps that's why I disregard some hardcore stuff that is lyrically wanting..... Growing up under Sir Jo was the closest thing any Australians had to living under a dictatorship....
Oi Shatner! And I don't mean "Oi you! Come ova 'ere", I mean "could I get your attention please."
You might be interested in this piece published on The Guardian yesterday. Kings of the Indonesian hardcore scene, Navicula, are doing some ol' fashioned rabble rousing, monkey-wrenching the domestic palm oil industry.
Sheeepy just had a vision of the Bra Boys........ sunday arvo boozy session on the beachfront at maroubra singing pig city .
Pig City!! Like it! Now, I'm all punked out...and so ends the great Swellnet early to mid 80s punk debate...across all states and continents.
Kind of like Zizek vs Chomsky...uh, maybe Norman Mailer vs Gore Vidal (I'll be Norman)??
Nah, more like Ron Casey vs Normie Rowe (For balance, Sheepdog, you can be Ron!)
Yes, Stunet, saw that article...good read and good stuff. Surf journalism! Someone stop that man!
Indo punk is definitely fighting the power and with the threat of real consequences! How about that story from a few years ago about the 're-education' of punks in Aceh, which included forced hair-cuts by the cops!? All power to 'em! Seen that doco THE ACT OF KILLING? Sheesh!
Now I need some soothing easy-listening muzak from Uncle Joe (not Stalin):
I'd recommend ''Take Your Love And Shove It'' & ''I've Got News For You''...listen with your significant other...bury them deep in love.
Diversity, Shats, luv it.....
Here's something from total left field re' "soothing"..... Complete lack of percussion.... Infact , the subtle use of background keyboard as a minor percussion device from 2.15 is genius... You have to strain your ears to get it.... a simple pulse.... All that is needed...... Lack of percussion throughout the track gives a ghostly feel, highlighting the reminiscent lyrics....
Bryan Ferry? The only Ferry man I like is Chris de Burgh, and you know I ain't paying that fucker.
Something from mid-centre-left field this arvo. The Gun Club, 'Sex Beat'. Southern fried goth voodoo with gyrating hips:
Ah, I'm refreshed, now back to the punk, a tribute to Jeffrey Lee Pierce from good buddy Keith Morris, OFF!
I don't belong!!!!!!!!!
good..... flashback........
Speaking of Keith Morris, if you're familiar with another one of his bands, Circle Jerks, you'd know their rendition of WILD IN THE STREETS. (this clip taken from the classic skate trash flick THRASHIN'. Worth a look in itself. See all the skate punks of the era like Hosoi, Alva, Eddie Reategui...a personal fave performance...as the Daggers! See a young Josh Brolin and a super fine Sherilyn Fenn before they were anything. Funny cheeseball shit.)
However, check the original WILD IN THE STREETS by Garland Jeffreys. He was over here at Bluesfest. Great stuff, cool clip:
FLIPPER! Now we're cooking with gas, dawg!
Right, I'm tapped.
Two albums got a good thrashing today - Helmet's "Betty" and Girls Against Boys' "House of GVSB".
Today I flogged the hell out of Bodycount's "Cop Killer" and Radio Birdman's "Radio's Appear" while stuck in a railway line maintenance machine...no escape from the machine so I took myself elsewhere with music.
Alright, time for some discussion on what yr all listening too. My iTunes inventory is getting a little stale so I'm up for some inspiration.
Currently loving The Drones' album "Havilah".. incredible songwriting and some of the best recorded guitars and drum I've heard in a long time. I'm a little late to the party with this album but it's on high rotation at the moment and will probably stay there a while. I've seen these guys live once (Fowlers, Adelaide) and fortunately they're incredible on stage too. Can't wait to see them again.