The Israel Palestine problem solving thread

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stunet started the topic in Tuesday, 17 Oct 2023 at 10:45am

Because the world would be a better place if leaders only listened to Swellnet commenters, we've created a forum that makes it easy for them to gather our thoughts.

Today's shit talk is tomorrow's policy.

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Pop Down Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 7:46pm

The terrible destruction of Gaza seems to be coming to a quicker completion than most imagined .

All the Arab world are watching Israel and each other.

They are not surprised by the IDF’s actions , Hamas declared War !

They have tested both sides resolve .

Not sure why Hamas don’t just give up now .

At least finish this mess with a merciful surrender .

The Palestinian people deserve that imho

The Japanese were willing to fight till last man standing .

They would never hide behind women and children .

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Israel took a huge risk by throwing the proverbial sink at Gaza .

Put the rest of the country in an , almost , unprotected position .

The Arab world knew this and , for some reason , hasn’t pulled the trigger , yet ?

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southernraw Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 7:54pm
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False incorrect simplistic nonsense….and if you mess with Israel you mess with Gods global plan.

Farkin jeeebus!!
This one takes the cake.

btw...while we've all sat here comfortably procrastinating....22,000 Palestinians, mostly innocent, mostly women and children, have been slaughtered. Not died, slaughtered.
Apparently its something to do with baby jesus or something...i dunno.
Great post again Adam 12.

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southernraw Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 8:05pm
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@ Adam

Ive learnt to try not to waste my time with you, because you are insane and abusive.

Well i'd say that too if i wanted to avoid addressing the points that he brought up.
Carn Indo.
Some pretty huge points made there that undermine Israels military and government severely.
Surely you have an argument for that....as you always seem to have.

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southernraw Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 8:10pm

Most people on this planet right now are sympathising with Palestinians.
Not out of support for Hamas, but outrage for the slaughtering of innocent people...especially those confined within a prison with nowhere to escape to.
Even my dear grand mother, who fled Austria during the holocaust cannot understand Israels brutality right now and has a heavy heart for the Palestinian people.
That's someone that's lived through this kind of terror.
Think about it folks.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 8:54pm
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indo-dreaming wrote:

@ Adam

Ive learnt to try not to waste my time with you, because you are insane and abusive.

Well i'd say that too if i wanted to avoid addressing the points that he brought up.
Carn Indo.
Some pretty huge points made there that undermine Israels military and government severely.
Surely you have an argument for that....as you always seem to have.

Really can you cut and paste the points?

All i saw was the same old same old complete with loaded words and then his typical personal abuse.

Ive got no time for people that throw pointless personal unprovoked insults and look down on others, they dont deserve my time.

And BTW when did homophobic slurs become acceptable on Swellnet?

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basesix Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 8:57pm

to be fair @indo, the '16 year-old girl' thing could go, too. I assume your lass will be getting there soon, and will be an engaged, well-rounded thinker like mine was.

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Pop Down Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 9:13pm

Southern
My mother lived through a war .

She also has sympathy for the terrible slaughter of Palestinians !

If I asked her , am guessing she has not much sympathy for Hamas .

Edit

For 500 years , the Dutch have had no sympathy for War Mongers !

Fought an 80 year war , to prove it !

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Southern , do u think Hamas should surrender and stop this war ?
Now ?
Guessing Indo does .

Edit whatever

Adam 12 , what do U think ?

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 9:00pm
southernraw wrote:

Most people on this planet right now are sympathising with Palestinians.
Not out of support for Hamas, but outrage for the slaughtering of innocent people...especially those confined within a prison with nowhere to escape to.
Even my dear grand mother, who fled Austria during the holocaust cannot understand Israels brutality right now and has a heavy heart for the Palestinian people.
That's someone that's lived through this kind of terror.
Think about it folks.

Maybe the Arab world and the left and weak politicians , but others are sympathising with Israel and the kidnapped, remember them?

You know on the 7th October a terrorist/Jihadist group attacked Israel raping, murdering and kidnapping anyone from babies to old people.

Hence what triggered a war to finally deal with a terrorist state that has openly said it want's to rid Israel of all Jews.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 9:08pm
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to be fair @indo, the '16 year-old girl' thing could go, too. I assume your lass will be getting there soon, and will be an engaged, well-rounded thinker like mine was.

Huh?

Sixteen year old girls or even boys are generally young and naive, they dont understand the world yet but think they know everything, they think in simple terms, war= bad, cant have war.

They are the ones at protest chanting from the river to the sea, having no understanding of what river or what sea or that its a call for genocide (the real type)

But as we grow up, we learn and understand things aren't that simple, war is just part of life, always has been alway will be, when you try every other avenue and you keep getting attacked like Israel has, sooner or latter you fight back, then you have war.

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basesix Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 9:08pm
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It's insane that you and others are old farts, but think like 16 year old school girls.

just, if you are going to accuse others of schoolyard gibes, maybe avoid gender putdowns, maybe just say '5 year olds'. I think you are underestimating a couple of things in the phrase you used. That's all, doesn't matter.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 9:09pm

Ha ha really...j

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 9:16pm
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Southern , do u think Hamas should surrender and stop this war ?
Now ?
Guessing Indo does .

Its crazy that people dont suggest this more, this war could end tomorrow if Hamas surrendered and handed over those kidnapped.

You know why they never suggest this right????

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 10:28pm

Going back to the boats, missiles, chokepoints to global trade once again: did you know there's another clandestine shipping artery that has been constructed by very clever phantom brokers and mystery shipping companies?

One navy task group in the Laconian Gulf is all it would take...

But until then, the spice must flow.

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southernraw Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 10:42pm

@indo/pop....
Mind meltingly mental.
Indopop! ha.

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southernraw Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 10:44pm

far out, you two don't even make sense.
Not even simple logical, step by step sense.
I feel like it's a hot white torch to my brain attempting to read your comments.

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southernraw Saturday, 30 Dec 2023 at 10:52pm

Indo speaking on behalf of the world about who actually cares for the Palestinian women and children getting slaughtered and their families. Properly categorizing the groups that care and the groups that don't.
Fighting the good fight.
You legend!

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Pop Down Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 8:30am

Southern
Indo pops up really well, on this thread .

As his posts ( and mine ) are Melting your mind with a White hot torch ( lol ) , I think I will Pop Down even more .

Jokes about German Boot licking , I thought , went out Last Century .

This thread is Mind Numbing me , as well .

I thought my one question for U , with a simple yes , or no , was relatively simple :)

Edit

Roady- I am a bit slow , these days:)

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 8:28am
Pop Down wrote:

Southern
Indo pops up really well, on this thread .

As his posts ( and mine ) are Melting your mind with a White hot torch ( lol ) , I think I will Pop Down even more .

Jokes about German Boot licking , I thought , went out Last Century .

This thread is Mind Numbing me , as well .

I thought my one question for U , with a simple yes , or no , was relatively simple :)

Pop down, you should know by now SR demands answers with simple yes or no…but can’t answer a question with a simple yes or no.

Generally SR will answer a question with, I’ll answer your question after you answer this question…he is a known, not to smart hypocrite. :)

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andy-mac Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 9:44am
Roadkill wrote:
Pop Down wrote:

Southern
Indo pops up really well, on this thread .

As his posts ( and mine ) are Melting your mind with a White hot torch ( lol ) , I think I will Pop Down even more .

Jokes about German Boot licking , I thought , went out Last Century .

This thread is Mind Numbing me , as well .

I thought my one question for U , with a simple yes , or no , was relatively simple :)

Pop down, you should know by now SR demands answers with simple yes or no…but can’t answer a question with a simple yes or no.

Generally SR will answer a question with, I’ll answer your question after you answer this question…he is a known, not to smart hypocrite. :)

https://www.healthline.com/health/projection-psychology

SR is about as far as I know with 'skin in the game' so to speak having an ex living in Israel, so I would guess he is following this more than most. Sorry SR if my assumption is incorrect.
His comments are generally considered, thoughtful, sensitive and sensible, not just Fox Murdoch MSM talking points as some seem to sprout on this thread.
Fark the whole situation is grey and some seem to only have cognitive ability to see either black or white..
Now I guess I'll be called a Hamas terrorist supporter... ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠∵⁠ ⁠)⁠┌

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basesix Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 10:08am

haha, "100%", you're a "woke, naïve, jihad-supporting, terrorist-sympathising, hamas-loving, anti-semitic, traitor to western civilisation". Here's some reading for you to educate yourself, @andy-mac:

"Extreme or Absolute Language makes an exaggerated, overblown, and probably untrue claim. It admits of no exceptions, and it seems to forbid doubt or questions. Clues such as: every, all, always, indisputable, unarguably, never, none, totally, -est comparative form (smartest), perfectly, entirely, etc." www.nlsd122.org

https://socialworktestprep.com/blog/2023/july/17/aswb-exam-tips-spotting....

; )

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 10:08am
andy-mac wrote:
Roadkill wrote:
Pop Down wrote:

Southern
Indo pops up really well, on this thread .

As his posts ( and mine ) are Melting your mind with a White hot torch ( lol ) , I think I will Pop Down even more .

Jokes about German Boot licking , I thought , went out Last Century .

This thread is Mind Numbing me , as well .

I thought my one question for U , with a simple yes , or no , was relatively simple :)

Pop down, you should know by now SR demands answers with simple yes or no…but can’t answer a question with a simple yes or no.

Generally SR will answer a question with, I’ll answer your question after you answer this question…he is a known, not to smart hypocrite. :)

https://www.healthline.com/health/projection-psychology

SR is about as far as I know with 'skin in the game' so to speak having an ex living in Israel, so I would guess he is following this more than most. Sorry SR if my assumption is incorrect.
His comments are generally considered, thoughtful, sensitive and sensible, not just Fox Murdoch MSM talking points as some seem to sprout on this thread.
Fark the whole situation is grey and some seem to only have cognitive ability to see either black or white..
Now I guess I'll be called a Hamas terrorist supporter... ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠∵⁠ ⁠)⁠┌

Hey nice story..but it didn’t even get close to addressing what I said. Which is 100% true.

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 10:13am

An ex is hardly skin in the game. And doesn’t give SR more insight or more rights to spread his biased take.

“Now I guess I'll be called a Hamas terrorist supporter... ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠∵⁠ ⁠)⁠┌”

I love how he goes full victim mode to close out his posts…it’s much easier to do that than admit things.

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 10:15am

Ps…how do you know SR has an ex in Israel? He tells everyone, again and again and again and again and again….

Lots of us have some connection to Israel…but highlighting it for drama is not what we all do.

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southernraw Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 10:16am

haha. Yeah righto popdown. You tell yourself that.
You're out asking questions now?
Wasn't it you who asked twice for this thread be pulled down by SN...for...err...what again?
Not sure what you're still doing here relenting on a thread you don't want on here.
As for Roady. Sorry fella, i've already given you my last chirp for the year.
Cheers @andymac. Happy New year to you..and to all good crew.

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Pop Down Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 10:41am

SR

I like things in three’s .

Please , anybody , turn this Mind Numbing thread off .

The Israel’s and Russian’s seem to be really turning up the heat , atm .

Perhaps a sign that things are coming to a head .

The Russians have now , achieved their objectives .

Perhaps a Peace Deal on Russian terms can be negotiated , despite NATO !

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 11:25am
Pop Down wrote:

SR

I like things in three’s .

Please , anybody , turn this Mind Numbing thread off .

The Israel’s and Russian’s seem to be really turning up the heat , atm .

Perhaps a sign that things are coming to a head .

The Russians have now , achieved their objectives .

Perhaps a Peace Deal on Russian terms can be negotiated , despite NATO !

Go away pop down. No one forces you to read the thread and no one forces you to post comments, then ask for the thread to be closed down.

I have learnt quite a lot from most contributors in this thread, I may not agree with everyone but they do make me think about stuff from different angles.

Don’t like the thread…then don’t open it.

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Pop Down Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 11:51am

A lot of threads go a bit mind numbing but still will pop in if I feel like I have something to say .

This is a Religious War .

I am not religious and can’t take sides .

Even if I was , I wouldn’t want to jump in and separate them .

It’s their fight .

So many on this site throw hands in the air with outrage at what either side have done today , yesterday , the day before etc etc

Watch a few old War Movies .

All this armchair sympathy, for both sides .

A we are all Spectators , shouting from the sidelines .

Hamas and Israel are fighting again !

This is a very old fight !

I have seen it before and I am very tired of it .

I desperately want it to stop !

Edit
Roady - guessing I would have suggested the covid thread get closed down to .

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adam12 Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 12:18pm

@Indo,
The reason you can't reply to me isn't because "you've learnt I am insane and abusive", That's just you projecting again.
The reason you can't answer is because I am right and I point out how flawed, narrow and one sided you are and you can't answer it. So you run away. Then you start accusing others of behaving like !6 year old girls. Again, projection is your only defense.
Now you are putting out propaganda connecting Palestinians to Nazis. FMD.
Meanwhile the IDF slaughtered more innocent civilians overnight, and you come on here cheering them on.
Israel was created by terrorism. It's terrorists became the IDF. They have been terrorising Palestinians for a century. That's how Israel became a state.
You seem to think the terrorists are only on one side.
You think being critical of Israel is supporting terrorists.
I point out to you the terrorism Zionist Jews undertook to get their state.
You accuse me of being insane and run away.
Now who is behaving like a child?
The truth is that both sides have terrorists, both sides commit atrocities and they both deserve condemnation for it. You taking one side, because it fits your "Don't be woke, I'm a hard core conservative gaylord" persona, and accusing others of supporting terrorists, ignores that truth.
When your ignorance is made clear to you...you run away.
The gutless gaylord.

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soggydog Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 12:21pm
Roadkill wrote:
Pop Down wrote:

SR

I like things in three’s .

Please , anybody , turn this Mind Numbing thread off .

The Israel’s and Russian’s seem to be really turning up the heat , atm .

Perhaps a sign that things are coming to a head .

The Russians have now , achieved their objectives .

Perhaps a Peace Deal on Russian terms can be negotiated , despite NATO !

Go away pop down. No one forces you to read the thread and no one forces you to post comments, then ask for the thread to be closed down.

I have learnt quite a lot from most contributors in this thread, I may not agree with everyone but they do make me think about stuff from different angles.

Don’t like the thread…then don’t open it.

Amazing, because the tone of your posts would suggest you refuse to learn anything and are here to shit stir mainly.
Maybe it’s a Christmas miracle.

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andy-mac Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 12:28pm
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haha, "100%", you're a "woke, naïve, jihad-supporting, terrorist-sympathising, hamas-loving, anti-semitic, traitor to western civilisation". Here's some reading for you to educate yourself, @andy-mac:

"Extreme or Absolute Language makes an exaggerated, overblown, and probably untrue claim. It admits of no exceptions, and it seems to forbid doubt or questions. Clues such as: every, all, always, indisputable, unarguably, never, none, totally, -est comparative form (smartest), perfectly, entirely, etc." www.nlsd122.org

https://socialworktestprep.com/blog/2023/july/17/aswb-exam-tips-spotting....

; )

Cheers, but victim was left out!!! (⁠•⁠‿⁠•⁠) Ha

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 12:34pm
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Roadkill wrote:
Pop Down wrote:

SR

I like things in three’s .

Please , anybody , turn this Mind Numbing thread off .

The Israel’s and Russian’s seem to be really turning up the heat , atm .

Perhaps a sign that things are coming to a head .

The Russians have now , achieved their objectives .

Perhaps a Peace Deal on Russian terms can be negotiated , despite NATO !

Go away pop down. No one forces you to read the thread and no one forces you to post comments, then ask for the thread to be closed down.

I have learnt quite a lot from most contributors in this thread, I may not agree with everyone but they do make me think about stuff from different angles.

Don’t like the thread…then don’t open it.

Amazing, because the tone of your posts would suggest you refuse to learn anything and are here to shit stir mainly.
Maybe it’s a Christmas miracle.

Soggybiscuit, I thought you said you were out of this thread?

You are also a hypocrite…lmao. I suggest you go back and read what you have posted, what you have called me and others with different opinions to yours, and the tones you have used.

At least be man enough to own your posts rather than being the snivelling little coward that darts in to point the finger.

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Pop Down Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 12:47pm

Adam 12
Guessing your Disestablishmentarianism and Anti Monarchy Natural style and nature has not been diminished by you moving from Law to Farming .

With your definition of terrorism State Creation , 99% of States are possibly in trouble .

Eg England , France , Turkey …..Australia ?

Just saying :)

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soggydog Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 12:48pm
Roadkill wrote:
soggydog wrote:
Roadkill wrote:
Pop Down wrote:

SR

I like things in three’s .

Please , anybody , turn this Mind Numbing thread off .

The Israel’s and Russian’s seem to be really turning up the heat , atm .

Perhaps a sign that things are coming to a head .

The Russians have now , achieved their objectives .

Perhaps a Peace Deal on Russian terms can be negotiated , despite NATO !

Go away pop down. No one forces you to read the thread and no one forces you to post comments, then ask for the thread to be closed down.

I have learnt quite a lot from most contributors in this thread, I may not agree with everyone but they do make me think about stuff from different angles.

Don’t like the thread…then don’t open it.

Amazing, because the tone of your posts would suggest you refuse to learn anything and are here to shit stir mainly.
Maybe it’s a Christmas miracle.

Soggybiscuit, I thought you said you were out of this thread?

You are also a hypocrite…lmao. I suggest you go back and read what you have posted, what you have called me and others with different opinions to yours, and the tones you have used.

At least be man enough to own your posts rather than being the snivelling little coward that darts in to point the finger.

The post “ I’m out “was referring to Indo and further conversation on this thread. Because as we’ve seen, Indo engages in wilful ignorance when his ideas are challenged. So there is no discussion just a to and fro of who’s right. Which is this and many other threads.
You are the chief sniper of trivial shit in posts on this thread. I suggest a bit of self reflection.
Yeah I may have said a few nasty things, but do you notice how I don’t cry like your self and Indo over that shit. I concentrate on the content of your argument then ad the critical observations. (What you call abusive names)
Any way on my way for a wave.
LEB roadkill LEB.

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yvdreh Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 1:16pm

49 pages????? Go for a surf ya silly billy's.

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Pop Down wrote:

Adam 12
Guessing your Disestablishmentarianism and Anti Monarchy Natural style and nature has not been diminished by you moving from Law to Farming .

With your definition of terrorism State Creation , 99% of States are possibly in trouble .

Eg England , France , Turkey …..Australia ?

Just saying :)

@Pop, well it wasn't straight from law to farming, you left out a few of the lucrative career changes
made along the way, but yeah the angry ant survived. Some of these fuckers grind my gears and get me coming in off the long run, I shouldn't give two fucks and it shits me that I do.
Anyway, Happy New Year brah, hope we both get a lot of waves in'24, time's running out for both of us, gotta make the most of what's left.

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adam12 Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 3:58pm

@Pop,
Your brother keeps hassling me to do one last surf trip. Indo, Maldives or maybe Hawaii. I'd love to do JBay, always been on my bucket list and it's got that "point" section down the end for us old boys when supers gets a bit hectic. We should organise something. Like I said, the clock's running.

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Pop Down Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 4:19pm

lol

As I am 3 years older than U2 , I am organised and not able to wait .

Apparently your surfing travel buddy just plays golf .

Let me know when you’re ready to book .

Planning on the North Shore in Jan 2025 and have already organised a Wing Man .

Last time I surfed there ( with J ) we surfed , what we thought a challenging break .

We found out , at the pub , it was called Kiddies .
I will , hopefully , not surf there , again .

Edit

As my guide is a Professional and , probably , looking for other idiots like me , Barton Lynch has agreed to a zoom to see what a different and difficult ( probably dangerous ) person I can be lol .

Bon Chance Barton .

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 4:48pm

Supporting peace since never. Same old side at it again.
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/propalestinian-protester...

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 5:26pm
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@Indo,
The reason you can't reply to me isn't because "you've learnt I am insane and abusive", That's just you projecting again.
The reason you can't answer is because I am right and I point out how flawed, narrow and one sided you are and you can't answer it. So you run away. Then you start accusing others of behaving like !6 year old girls. Again, projection is your only defense.
Now you are putting out propaganda connecting Palestinians to Nazis. FMD.
Meanwhile the IDF slaughtered more innocent civilians overnight, and you come on here cheering them on.
Israel was created by terrorism. It's terrorists became the IDF. They have been terrorising Palestinians for a century. That's how Israel became a state.
You seem to think the terrorists are only on one side.
You think being critical of Israel is supporting terrorists.
I point out to you the terrorism Zionist Jews undertook to get their state.
You accuse me of being insane and run away.
Now who is behaving like a child?
The truth is that both sides have terrorists, both sides commit atrocities and they both deserve condemnation for it. You taking one side, because it fits your "Don't be woke, I'm a hard core conservative gaylord" persona, and accusing others of supporting terrorists, ignores that truth.
When your ignorance is made clear to you...you run away.
The gutless gaylord.

Mate pretty much all your post directed at me are full of unprovoked personal abuse and name calling so why on earth do you think you deserve a proper reply or ongoing conversation????

Id much rather spend my energy on replies to people that can have a proper conversation and only get abusive when the conversation starts getting heated, which is understandable.

And honestly this gaylord homophobic slur thing is just bizare, im a conservative and even i left that kind of shit back in the 90s

BTW. Im happy to address any of your points if they come from someone that isn't abusive like Andy-Mac, Superfreak, Southern Raw, i asked Souther raw to cut and paste what he though was a good point to address it., but i diont see him do so.

That said much of what ive seen in your post is the same same, like they arent going to get rid of Hamas, and just creating terrorist, but nopbody has provided a realistic alternative on how Israel should have reacted after 7th October, or how on earth you deal with destroying an enemy without taking out civilian's when Hamas has spent 15+ years on a strategy of mixing its military infrastructure with civilians.

Even now Hamas is shooting rockets from within safe zones area's where historically Hamas hasn't fired rockets from.

And people are also ignoring the fact that Israel has already tried pretty much every other avenue before, even going as far a giving the whole of Gaza over in a peace deal. (which now seems crazy, but you cant say they didn't try)

And no the truth IS NOT that both sides are terrorist, one side is a respected army, the other is a seen by most of the developed world as a terrorist group, they are polar opposites.

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 5:49pm

I find this projecting bs the pro Palestine psychologist group in here use to try and shut down discussions pretty funny and very lame.

Just a diversion tactic.

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Roadkill Sunday, 31 Dec 2023 at 5:54pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
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@Indo,
The reason you can't reply to me isn't because "you've learnt I am insane and abusive", That's just you projecting again.
The reason you can't answer is because I am right and I point out how flawed, narrow and one sided you are and you can't answer it. So you run away. Then you start accusing others of behaving like !6 year old girls. Again, projection is your only defense.
Now you are putting out propaganda connecting Palestinians to Nazis. FMD.
Meanwhile the IDF slaughtered more innocent civilians overnight, and you come on here cheering them on.
Israel was created by terrorism. It's terrorists became the IDF. They have been terrorising Palestinians for a century. That's how Israel became a state.
You seem to think the terrorists are only on one side.
You think being critical of Israel is supporting terrorists.
I point out to you the terrorism Zionist Jews undertook to get their state.
You accuse me of being insane and run away.
Now who is behaving like a child?
The truth is that both sides have terrorists, both sides commit atrocities and they both deserve condemnation for it. You taking one side, because it fits your "Don't be woke, I'm a hard core conservative gaylord" persona, and accusing others of supporting terrorists, ignores that truth.
When your ignorance is made clear to you...you run away.
The gutless gaylord.

Mate pretty much all your post directed at me are full of unprovoked personal abuse and name calling so why on earth do you think you deserve a proper reply or ongoing conversation????

Id much rather spend my energy on replies to people that can have a proper conversation and only get abusive when the conversation starts getting heated, which is understandable.

And honestly this gaylord homophobic slur thing is just bizare, im a conservative and even i left that kind of shit back in the 90s

BTW. Im happy to address any of your points if they come from someone that isn't abusive like Andy-Mac, Superfreak, Southern Raw, i asked Souther raw to cut and paste what he though was a good point to address it., but i diont see him do so.

That said much of what ive seen in your post is the same same, like they arent going to get rid of Hamas, and just creating terrorist, but nopbody has provided a realistic alternative on how Israel should have reacted after 7th October, or how on earth you deal with destroying an enemy without taking out civilian's when Hamas has spent 15+ years on a strategy of mixing its military infrastructure with civilians.

Even now Hamas is shooting rockets from within safe zones area's where historically Hamas hasn't fired rockets from.

And people are also ignoring the fact that Israel has already tried pretty much every other avenue before, even going as far a giving the whole of Gaza over in a peace deal. (which now seems crazy, but you cant say they didn't try)

And no the truth IS NOT that both sides are terrorist, one side is a respected army, the other is a seen by most of the developed world as a terrorist group, they are polar opposites.

The gay slurs are about the level of 14 year old school kids. That someone is stuck at that level is embarrassing. Wake up adam12. Get a bit more creative.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 1 Jan 2024 at 7:28am

This is surprising and interesting, not bad for an apartheid state. (sarcasm)

"New data issued by the Health Ministry in a 2020 report on health care personnel show that the Arabs and Druze in Israel, who make up about 20 percent of the country’s population, constitute almost half (46 percent) of recipients of medical licenses; half of the new nurses, male and female (50 percent, as compared with just 9 percent in 2000); and more than half the dentists (53 percent) and pharmacists (57 percent).

Of 40 students in the physics-electronics track, about 30 are doctors. Very few went into other fields. The feeling is that the glass ceiling is to be a doctor or a lawyer, and few people turn to engineering and high-tech.

In addition to the fact that Arabs comprise a vastly larger proportion of the medical field than their share in the population, this meteoric surge within just two decades has transformed the face of medicine in Israel. Besides the leap of more than fivefold in the number of Arab nurses since the start of the century, there has been a fourfold increase in the number of Arab physicians, the number of Arab dentists has more than doubled and the overall proportion of Arab pharmacists has almost tripled, from 21 percent in 2000 to 57 percent in 2020."

*Druze are an ethnic group/religion similar to Arab/muslims in Israel but different.

Mentioned in this video too.

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adam12 Monday, 1 Jan 2024 at 11:12am

For the sensitive gaylords on this site
"Meaning:Lively, high-spirited. Gaylord is a masculine name of French origin. It stems from the word gaillard, which means lively and spirited."
If I wanted to homophobically slur the sensitive psychopath I would have chosen a homophobic slur.
You boys need to expand your vocabularies, and @Roadkill are you really sure you want to play Goose to this half wit Maverick?
And the human shields have a message for you @Indo

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Pop Down Monday, 1 Jan 2024 at 12:26pm

Adam 12 has called me a Gaylord .

Just saying .

I was shocked when first heard it to and thought I might hit him .

He quickly told me the fn definition .

His definition of things is , I find , a bit haphazard , so now check , before giving him MY Look !

Edit

I lived in Sydney for 10 years and stayed single , the whole time .

Lots of people there , thought I was Gay , to !!!

Edit 3
It was , actually , quite handy people thinking I was gay .

Woman came up and chatted to Me !

Must have thought I was safe , am guessing .

I didn’t dress up or put on a funny accent , though !

Edit 4
If U ever visit a really Gay bar ( or Lesbian ) U can walk up to the gayest person ( deep voice and occer accent ) and say “I am not gay , but had to say hello and how wonderful u look “ .

Edit 5
Actually , don’t say that in a Lesbian bar !

Edit 6
Adam 12 also had another career !
Student Agitator .

Edit last
Burley , who are u calling a Dill below , other than me ?

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Roadkill Monday, 1 Jan 2024 at 12:01pm
adam12 wrote:

For the sensitive gaylords on this site
"Meaning:Lively, high-spirited. Gaylord is a masculine name of French origin. It stems from the word gaillard, which means lively and spirited."
If I wanted to homophobically slur the sensitive psychopath I would have chosen a homophobic slur.
You boys need to expand your vocabularies, and @Roadkill are you really sure you want to play Goose to this half wit Maverick?
And the human shields have a message for you @Indo
https://twitter.com/missfalsteenia/status/1741526424056447065

lol. You used as a gay slur, knowing it would be applied as a gay slur. Now you are making excuses.

No one is overly sensitive, no one is really offended and for Indo it’s probably water off a duck’s back.

It just shows what level you carry. You are still butthurt when named a failed wannabe lawyer come painter.

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Roadkill Monday, 1 Jan 2024 at 12:07pm
adam12 wrote:

For the sensitive gaylords on this site
"Meaning:Lively, high-spirited. Gaylord is a masculine name of French origin. It stems from the word gaillard, which means lively and spirited."
If I wanted to homophobically slur the sensitive psychopath I would have chosen a homophobic slur.
You boys need to expand your vocabularies, and @Roadkill are you really sure you want to play Goose to this half wit Maverick?
And the human shields have a message for you @Indo
https://twitter.com/missfalsteenia/status/1741526424056447065

When not making propaganda videos, if you asked those kids what do they think of Jews? They would say death to Jews and every Jew should be exterminated.
The children of Gaza are indoctrinated with hate from their parents and their hijacked religion.
The gaza population is a corrupted.
No other Muslim nation wants them because they know trouble and hate would follow.