Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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truebluebasher Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 3:15am

20 Sep 2023 Oz KP3 Covid Wave continued from above...
Recap...
tbb: "Sorry crew...hard to argue against 5 matching rising data spikes...looks like an outbreak!
Previous Vic Spring outbreaks (Often pause/drop 2 weeks before wave starts)".

Continues with Global / Interstate time stamping of that exact fore mentioned seasonal adjustment.
This was possibly the first near global Covid Hiccup as near all skipped a beat...
The only take on it is XEC challenged KP3 but backed down then partnered to team up as a dual wave.
tbb can only guess it spells the overlapping of real time flip seasonal dual global waves.
Mostly coz they adjusted at exact same time thru 100% open real time gateways.
eg: Sydney o/s Data is rock solid & shows exact same pause in Data to rise again.
This pause was across the board more amplified to our region as more identical.

What the data is showing is a Euro/Asia/NZ/Oz-States Pause/Reset Covid drop at end of Sept...
Then Asia/NZ/Oz-States mid Wave Covid peak at start of Nov 2024
NSW RSR Page 9 Other Surveillance Indicators
Can check this exact / extreme KP.3 / XEC Variants Dual / Drop & Rise here.
https://www.prevention.com/health/health-conditions/a62624904/xec-latest...
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/respiratory-...
Seem to amplify dual spike/drop new (vs) Parent Waves much earlier with Peak variants.
Shouldn't do that...( Learning real fast...)
Like peak mass transit racing new variants as existing Variants equally rebound on same return flights!
So we have this meeting of Old/New variants for longer permitted time = longer defined shared periods.
More like the Variants are accepting they must live & survive as one on same aircraft for instance!
Basically timetabling these gap seasons to be ever ready to flip at either World Peak Seasons

Another example being...
Spring Fever / Covid / Flu / W Cough / RSV / Shingles / M pox (One moderate rising Wave on now)
Kinda like a Viral Summit that none know about...going on right now under our noses...
Who gets to ravage which useless humans...reckon it's testing the Hospitals...
Like one of the 70's SciFi Insect invasion flicks! All goes quiet...then all the bugs / birds attack at once

eg: mRNA vax altering immunity > mutates all viruses to break thru at peak low immune Springtime!
Be interesting to Tally a Peak infection Period...coz right now is a good place to start yer research!
Q : Is right now our lowest Immune Period (vs) Multi virus Mutation Peak.(Whiteboard is showing such!)
We could be blowing our best chance at slowing or halting these Mutations with keen moderation.
Meaning : Have a look around...None dare speak of washing Hands post Peak Vax rollout...Why?
This is the one best directive that all agree upon...(Correct!) Well...Why aren't expects onto this...Huh!
Also interesting to note that many Shops / Med centres keep up the sanitizers...but very few use them...
How does tbb know that...Huh!...Well coz nearly everytime it's clogged & spits on me and...(Wait for it!)
Someone is ever ready to Laugh...like that Simpsons Kid...Ha! Ha! Whole world points...so all know this!
We are laughing away our only ever agreed upon basic Directive to ward off record Viruses!

Might get back to this...miles'n'miles of cost effective wasted opportunity goes begging & we all pay!

Covid Data Compliance of 234 nations
90(38%)Cases > 43(18%)Hospitalizations > 30(13%)ICU > 30(13%)Deaths
Note the cases reflect Emergency Testing + AV Scripts were recorded (re: Oz).

Covid Data ( Censor > Paused Data....)
*Germany are soon Axing Wastewater Data
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/10/28/haqq-o28.html

WHO (Possibly sample own branded Wastewater studies) Well! Ain't no one testing 20% Rats.
20% France / Corsica / Belgium / Swiss / Hungary
15% *Germany / Holland / Lithuania / Slovenia / Slovakia
15% Ghana / Kyrgyzstan (2 Low vax nations are WHO mandated Majority Healthcare Vaxed)

Note China / India (No case data of Note)
US (Rising States High) New Mexico (High) Maine / Oregon
Note : Dependent on Migrant Processing +
Which States received & bothered to register Biden's 1yr Expired RATs
Incidentally would have massively blew trust in Dem's Covid Cred Election Campaign
Many bloggerz were disgusted by Joe's scummy Year old Tests...timed with Ballot Mail outs!

WHO October (Month data) +
You'll get tbb bonus Extra Varied useful Oz / States Data by comparison...
Recapping these are all strictly capped Emergency Hospital Testing + GP Scripted [+] Cases
Often said to Represent around 2-4% of all current cases (No private / Outsourced Health!)

https://data.who.int/dashboards/covid19/cases?n=c
113k Russia
39.68k Australia Lab/AV > H 1,149 > ICU 18 (Deaths Winter 660 Avg/mth> higher than 2023)
37.8k Italy (Deaths 441 mth)
25.8k Czechia
25.3k Oz AV Scripts = 15.13% higher than Sept!
20k Italy H 7k Deaths 450 (Based on 2wks x2 Approx within 10%)
19.9k Poland
16.7k Greece
14.6k UK
10k Vic > H 395 rising (Freeze Censor @104wk) Said to be a Systems upgrade?
9.5k Vic AV (+33.8% on Sept 7,135)
8.6k NSW > H 262 (rising 12% wk)
7.7k NSW AV (+5.16% on Sept 7,338)
7.7k Lithuania 7.4k Croatia 6.3k France 5.6k Belgium 4.8k Swiss 3.9k Norway
3.6k Qld > H 262 (rising 12% wk )
3.6k NZ
Hosp/wk 15th Sep 76 >22nd 83 > 29th 105 > 6th Oct 107 rising ( Freeze Censor)
3.5k Malaysia
Hosp/wk 21st Sep 238 >*28th 287 >5th Oct 281 >12th 253 >19th 399 >26th 479 >2nd Nov 549
3.2k Qld AV (+11.5% on Sept 2,875)
3.2k Oz Aged Care (Oct a/c Deaths = 28)
3.2k Slovakia / Sweden

Oz States Waves Exactly the same as tbb's above seasonal pause/drop/rise forecast) Standard!
24th Sept Vic/NSW/Qld/SA > (Pause) 2nd Wk Oct > (All these States Waves now Rising)
Wkly Drop delay in this smaller / remote order ACT > Tas > WA (All these States Waves now Rising)
tbb has these States data if crew request...no anomalies or rank in Above Chart.
Not ruling out any spike in lead up to Xmas!

*Long Covid = Oz 10% US 20% US Marines 25% China 30%
Canada = 1x[+] 13% > 2x[+] 23% > 3x[+] 37%
(Covid Germans taking 20 sickies yr)
Holland 300mth registering with LC = 32,000
UK : 14,000 Teachers / day call in sick.

Oz Deaths : 2024 Oz Covid still killing 5x more than record high Flu Year (Victims)
Let it Rip (Articles)
https://archive.md/UL1zP
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/11/02/wiuv-n02.html
Oz Life Expectancy Drops 2 years in a row due to Massive ongoing Covid Deaths

News : Vic / Qld CHO's are leaving 2024

Summary : Malaysia / NZ / Oz / Wave is still rising
Happy to still be able to share a pretty decent relevant Covid Chart update!

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:28am

Thank you for all the data points there tbb

Here's the actuaries: mortality higher in 2024

https://www.actuaries.digital/2024/09/12/mortality-in-first-five-months-...

tbb's first most recent post

"Despite record highest pre vax Mandated record Testing to lowest ever Voluntary Testing
Just since Sep-Oct 2024 Cases tally higher than Total pre Rollout era.
Just Aug-Oct 2024 Hospitalization tallies above Total pre vax wards
Just April-Oct 2024 Oz lost more lives than total pre Vax Death Toll..."

In the pre-rollout era there were far more restrictions on transmission with lockdowns etc, and so less infections overall, and so lower cases/hospitalisations/deaths would be expected. This will not happen again as economy is now open and growing at 0.2% lol

Noted was the increase in NSW data linked 90 y.o. and above testing and confirming for covid, it's a sad situation for them as the aged care environment seems to have a high risk of infection for both residents and staff.