Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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Jelly Flater Friday, 16 Aug 2024 at 6:08pm

....to ummm vaccinate or not hahaha
- one must edumacate thru transmission of gerbil infection ;)

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Jelly Flater Friday, 16 Aug 2024 at 6:13pm

- one must also continue keithing in good faith
...the urban warfare of infwomayshin eggspurts ;)

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indo-dreaming Friday, 16 Aug 2024 at 6:33pm

Ha ha whoops wrong thread, trying to do to many things at once :D

Re posted here in correct thread https://www.swellnet.com/forums/politico

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Richard Cheese Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 7:29am

"The link between nagalase and autism has led to the development of treatment options aimed at reducing nagalase levels in individuals with autism. One such treatment is the use of VDTP, which is responsible for activating macrophages in the immune system. VDTP treatment has been found to ameliorate autistic symptoms in some individuals. Dosing of VDTPis recommended based on previously reported response curves adjusted by the treating clinician for age, weight, and nagalase levels. While VDTP treatment has shown promising results, further research is needed to fully understand its effectiveness in reducing nagalase levels in individuals with autism."

https://healingoracle.ch/2023/10/22/nagalase-and-autism-understanding-th...

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udo Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 7:40am

Gaza's first case of type 2 polio in 25 years has left a 10-month-old baby paralysed, the World Health Organization has confirmed.

The type 2 virus (cVDPV2), while not inherently more dangerous than types 1 and 3, has been responsible for most outbreaks in recent years.

Two rounds of a polio vaccination campaign are set to begin in late August and September 2024 across the densely populated Gaza Strip.

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AndyM Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 11:18am

Paging Burleigh to the green room.

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AndyM Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 1:44pm

Nah don’t vaccinate, leave the kids alone, right?

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burleigh Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:13pm
AndyM wrote:

Paging Burleigh to the green room.

Yet you’ve said nothing about all the dead kids killed by Israel rockets??? Concerning.

Great they will vaccinate the Gaza children with an actual confirmed case not just sifting through someone’s shit like London last year when you wet you pants for no reason.

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AndyM Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 8:14pm

Rockets? This is a thread about vaccinations.

Hey do you realise they found type 2 poliovirus in samples collected from wastewater in Gaza a couple of months ago, just like they found type 2 poliovirus in samples collected from wastewater in London?

But might as well wait until a baby has a confirmed case before acting, right?

Mate you've got this all wrong, surely you can understand how this works?

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burleigh Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 9:49pm
AndyM wrote:

Rockets? This is a thread about vaccinations.

Hey do you realise they found type 2 poliovirus in samples collected from wastewater in Gaza a couple of months ago, just like they found type 2 poliovirus in samples collected from wastewater in London?

But might as well wait until a baby has a confirmed case before acting, right?

Mate you've got this all wrong, surely you can understand how this works?

You’re familiar with the metaphor about the broken clock right?

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AndyM Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:17am

Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:02am
AndyM wrote:

Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

More speculation from the best of the bed wetters. You’re going to hate RKJ being Trumps secretary for health. Have you read the Fauci book?

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Richard Cheese Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:23am

"The first US county to ever experience a decrease in childhood autism rates has been pinpointed, says economic researcher Toby Rogers, who explains that starting in 2000, parents in Marin County, California began to do something differently.

What happened next has left researchers stunned, as Rogers explains."

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/marin-county-defies-cdc-vaccine-schedule-repo...

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AndyM Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:52am
burleigh wrote:
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Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

More speculation from the best of the bed wetters. You’re going to hate RKJ being Trumps secretary for health. Have you read the Fauci book?

What, Ross Klarke Jones??
Howie the Yowie ?

The man’s got such a broad range of talents.

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 12:03pm
AndyM wrote:
burleigh wrote:
AndyM wrote:

Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

More speculation from the best of the bed wetters. You’re going to hate RKJ being Trumps secretary for health. Have you read the Fauci book?

What, Ross Klarke Jones??
Howie the Yowie ?

The man’s got such a broad range of talents.

Exactly what a man with nothing would reply. zzzzzzzzzzzz

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AlfredWallace Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 12:31pm
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http://icbseverywhere.com/blog/2015/03/the-psychology-of-vaccine-denial-...

Udo. Hi. Thanks.

A good read and insight. AW

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Pop Down Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 12:36pm

Thanks Udo

As Rebecca pointed out , Peoples belief that Governments took away their health Choices , with Covid Vax's , has probably , lead to Vaccine Denial and a general lack in Trust in Medicine and Government .

A terrible State of Affairs !

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 12:48pm
Pop Down wrote:

Thanks Udo

As Rebecca pointed out , Peoples belief that Governments took away their health Choices , with Covid Vax's , has probably , lead to Vaccine Denial and a general lack in Trust in Medicine and Government .

A terrible State of Affairs !

thats not a belief, thats facts.

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Pop Down Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 2:20pm

Fauci recently caught the West Nile virus , poor chap , no cure or vaccine .

He has NO idea , how he caught the Ultra rare disease , must have been "thin air " stuff .

He just got over his 3 bout of covid and was fully vaxed , with 6 booster shots .

He helped fund Gain of Function research , is willing to be a Live experiment and WAS the Tsar of Covid's effective treatment .

IE , everything went wrong .

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 2:34pm
Pop Down wrote:

Fauci recently caught the West Nile virus , poor chap , no cure or vaccine .

He has NO idea , how he caught the Ultra rare disease , must have been "thin air " stuff .

He just got over his 3 bout of covid and was fully vaxed , with 6 booster shots .

He helped fund Gain of Function research , is willing to be a Live experiment and WAS the Tsar of Covid's effective treatment .

IE , everything went wrong .

Poor chap? he won't be getting sympathy from many, The guy should be in jail.

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southernraw Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 5:26pm
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Wtf
https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/india-seeking-death-penalty-for-who-scientist...

If these stats are true, it's staggering more aren't sent to the gallows.
"Research studies from India reveal that states that used Ivermectin had much better outcomes and far fewer deaths from Covid-19 than Indian states that did not use Ivermectin.
In Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand and Goa regions cases fell by 98%, 97%, 94% and 86% respectively."

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udo Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 6:36pm

Click on Videos and see where it takes You...He He

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seeds Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 6:49pm

Seems legit. ;)

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AndyM Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:14pm
burleigh wrote:
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Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

More speculation from the best of the bed wetters. You’re going to hate RKJ being Trumps secretary for health. Have you read the Fauci book?

Burls if you think the benefits of vaccinations are "speculation" then you really are incredibly ignorant of history.

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AndyM Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:23pm
burleigh wrote:
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Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

More speculation from the best of the bed wetters. You’re going to hate RKJ being Trumps secretary for health. Have you read the Fauci book?

"On Call" or "The Real Anthony Fauci"?

I wouldn't bother to read anything by RFK.

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southernraw Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:30pm

Glad i put a caveat on that @udo haha.

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:32pm
AndyM wrote:
burleigh wrote:
AndyM wrote:

Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

More speculation from the best of the bed wetters. You’re going to hate RKJ being Trumps secretary for health. Have you read the Fauci book?

Burls if you think the benefits of vaccinations are "speculation" then you really are incredibly ignorant of history.

Gaza is very different to London AndyM. You’ve never once said what happened in London after your panic attack.

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:34pm
AndyM wrote:
burleigh wrote:
AndyM wrote:

Haha, yeah Burls, no similarities there whatsoever.
Anyhoo, London would’ve been relatively happy for the high rates of vaccination coverage there.
Gaza obviously less so for their situation.

More speculation from the best of the bed wetters. You’re going to hate RKJ being Trumps secretary for health. Have you read the Fauci book?

"On Call" or "The Real Anthony Fauci"?

I wouldn't bother to read anything by RFK.

I’ll buy it for you: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-real-anthony-fauci-robert-f-kennedy...

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AndyM Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 8:05pm

Even his family have distanced themselves from his conspiracy theories.

"Kerry Kennedy called his comments about a genetically engineered Covid-19 virus “deplorable and untruthful,” his brother Joseph Kennedy II told the The Boston Globe the statements were “morally and factually wrong” and a “play on antisemitic myths and stoke mistrust of the Chinese” that “in no way reflect the words and actions of our father, Robert F. Kennedy.”

His nephew, Joe Kennedy III, called the statements were “hurtful and wrong,” tweeting “I unequivocally condemn what he said.”

His wife, actress Cheryl Hines, who introduced him on stage in Philadelphia Monday, said his “opinions are not a reflection of [her] own,” in a tweet last year after he compared vaccine mandates to Nazi Germany."

I'll pass thanks.

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 9:02pm
AndyM wrote:

Even his family have distanced themselves from his conspiracy theories.

"Kerry Kennedy called his comments about a genetically engineered Covid-19 virus “deplorable and untruthful,” his brother Joseph Kennedy II told the The Boston Globe the statements were “morally and factually wrong” and a “play on antisemitic myths and stoke mistrust of the Chinese” that “in no way reflect the words and actions of our father, Robert F. Kennedy.”

His nephew, Joe Kennedy III, called the statements were “hurtful and wrong,” tweeting “I unequivocally condemn what he said.”

His wife, actress Cheryl Hines, who introduced him on stage in Philadelphia Monday, said his “opinions are not a reflection of [her] own,” in a tweet last year after he compared vaccine mandates to Nazi Germany."

I'll pass thanks.

Conspiracy theories. LMAO you can do better than that.

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AndyM Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 9:55pm

You're in deep Burls, take it easy.

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burleigh Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 10:17pm
AndyM wrote:

You're in deep Burls, take it easy.

right back at ya

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burleigh Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 7:50am

More conspiracies hey AndyM:

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AndyM Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 8:39am

Not sure what your point is Burls, can you lay it out for me.

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burleigh Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:56am
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Not sure what your point is Burls, can you lay it out for me.

Thought it was pretty obvious. You’re written someone off completely because of what you deem conspiracy theories (you never actually clarified what they were) part of his speech is about making kids healthier.

You care SO much about injecting kids for their “protection” but yet you don’t care about kids being generally healthier in life. Which is what he wants

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AndyM Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 10:15am

Haha jesus christ Burls, what a massive assumption!

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burleigh Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 10:21am
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Even his family have distanced themselves from his conspiracy theories.

"Kerry Kennedy called his comments about a genetically engineered Covid-19 virus “deplorable and untruthful,” his brother Joseph Kennedy II told the The Boston Globe the statements were “morally and factually wrong” and a “play on antisemitic myths and stoke mistrust of the Chinese” that “in no way reflect the words and actions of our father, Robert F. Kennedy.”

His nephew, Joe Kennedy III, called the statements were “hurtful and wrong,” tweeting “I unequivocally condemn what he said.”

His wife, actress Cheryl Hines, who introduced him on stage in Philadelphia Monday, said his “opinions are not a reflection of [her] own,” in a tweet last year after he compared vaccine mandates to Nazi Germany."

I'll pass thanks.

it was only yesterday champ.

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soggydog Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 11:36am

If you listen to RFK he’s not anti vaccine, but he does explain vaccine schedules for children. What vaccines are for kids and what vaccines are put on the schedule because of funding. That’s all.
And “The Real Anthony Fauci” is a good read. RFK has done more for working class people as an environmental lawyer and health advocate than most of the other grifters put together.
He’s worth listening to Andy. Even if it’s to test your biases.

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soggydog Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 11:36am

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old-dog Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 12:11pm

Didn't RFK claim covid was designed to be race specific and target Caucasians and blacks and most Chinese and some Jews were immune.
He also claimed big Pharma was throwing money at the Dems when in actual fact they have favored the Republicans in 14 of the last 16 elections.
Also, that US gun ownership is on par with Switzerland. ???

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burleigh Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 1:00pm
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Didn't RFK claim covid was designed to be race specific and target Caucasians and blacks and most Chinese and some Jews were immune.
He also claimed big Pharma was throwing money at the Dems when in actual fact they have favored the Republicans in 14 of the last 16 elections.
Also, that US gun ownership is on par with Switzerland. ???

No more internet today for you old-flog.

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old-dog Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 1:47pm

Hi Burls, you don't have to look far to see some strange stuff about RFK. Like the abnormality in his brain, he said was caused by a parasitic worm eating his brain, (which could explain a lot), or leaving a dead bear in central park, which he was going to take home and skin and put the meat in his fridge but changed his mind. Who could forget that one. His words, not mine. He said he would eat any meat except human, dog and monkey.

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burleigh Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 2:05pm
old-dog wrote:

Hi Burls, you don't have to look far to see some strange stuff about RFK. Like the abnormality in his brain, he said was caused by a parasitic worm eating his brain, (which could explain a lot), or leaving a dead bear in central park, which he was going to take home and skin and put the meat in his fridge but changed his mind. Who could forget that one. His words, not mine. He said he would eat any meat except human, dog and monkey.

find any positive stuff about him or that doesn't interest you?

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old-dog Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 2:52pm

You could probably find something positive about Adolf Hitler or Jack the Ripper if you tried hard enough, but you would never look for anything positive about vaccinations hey champ. ;)

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Jelly Flater Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 2:55pm

^ the intricacies of safe and effective murder ;);)

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burleigh Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 4:12pm
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You could probably find something positive about Adolf Hitler or Jack the Ripper if you tried hard enough, but you would never look for anything positive about vaccinations hey champ. ;)

You really comparing RKJ to Hitler or Jack the ripper...... insane.

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