Health, fitness and wellbeing
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Personally my goal is to paddle against the strong currents in the surf spots here faster and for longer, get to my feet quicker in steep waves and get my libido a bit better.
I dont know if this will get me banned but back in my late teens i had a problem of not lasting longer than five minutes in the sack.
This may be obvious to other people on here and they may have not have had that trouble but what got me out of that rut was a "wank and strangle".
Every time you feel it coming on have a strangle of your knob, wait a few seconds and do this until a wank lasts at least fifteen minutes. After a while if you do it a lot you can last an hour in the sack.
You can also control when you finish so finish at the same time as them. Also go again a few times if your girls horny enough.Dont have much libido at the moment though and look at porn about once every three months.
As for surf fitness, well im struggling with that but ill try to get out there every time my local b or c grade wave breaks in clean conditions. A good diet, exercise and surfing every time it breaks, paddling against the strong current should get me back to surfing ok.
Unreal eh...bit of Groundswell Gold to start the thread off ...
a "wank and strangle".
Haha! Brilliant :-)
Go well young man.
Choking poultry is frowned upon in some circles. Your tangents as always are funny hahaha
Cut the alcohol out completely, exercise enough to get your heart rate right up at least a few times a week, skip a meal, eat a balanced diet rich in greens, look after your mental health with some increase in self awareness, create and work towards long term goals, put learning ahead of money, do the above consistently, not rocket science IMO
Off to a flying start there GS, some solid advice.
Gold.
Excellent kick off.
I admire your candor GS .
"After a while if you do it a lot ......"
I'm sure some young fella out there will find those tips very handy.
Thanks fellas but just a slightly negative question about someone who was in my boat,
why didn't Michael Peterson ever surf again after being diagnosed with Schiz?
Was it the meds back then were worse than now?
Or he didnt like Thrusters? or just way worse off mentally than i am?
Thanks Udo great read.
As soon as I read “I don’t know if this will get me banned” I started smiling hahaha
Another one laughing. Brilliant, GS!
No booze is a huge one. It will open up so many opportunities for you.
Sleeping better you will wake up feeling fresher, which will give you more energy to surf and train.
I train every day with a push/pull mix:
Pushing: chest, shoulders, and triceps
Pulling: back, biceps, and forearms
At the end of each day i get out the battle rope for my paddle cardio. Its hard yakka on the back/shoulders but i paddle faster and harder than most and i now look forward to a sweep as it really sorts the crowd out.
Nutrition there are plenty of options for you to explore, Whole foods is what i would recommend but still allow yourself a little treat every now and then.
I've been completely off the piss for months now. In addition to what Burleigh said another plus is the added lead in your pencil.
I'm back to holding up a wet beach towel and my sweetheart is not complaining.
Yep to no alcohol. Health and fitness is so much better. Alcohol eventually catches up to you if you do drink a bit.
Some of my wife's friends have hit 45 and wow the effects of alcohol has done them zero good.
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zenagain wrote:I've been completely off the piss for months now. In addition to what Burleigh said another plus is the added lead in your pencil.
I'm back to holding up a wet beach towel and my sweetheart is not complaining.
Now all you need to do is to follow groundy’s “strangle” method and you’ll be lasting longer than ever before
hahahahaha
To much of Groundys Strangle the Mongrel will result in a bad case of Peyronies
I bet I am not the only one that had to use google after udo's post.
Hey GS. One of my sons 34 yrs, has your condition , became manifest about 12 years ago so I know a bit about it. Have tried for years to get him into surfing, inducements such as boards to no avail. You have the advantage of being able to surf and still wanting to. One of the best things you could do I reckon.
can we rename the technique from "wank and strangle" to "wrangle then strangle"
aside from that, interesting reading about everyone off the piss. coincidently enough, was thinking about going cold turkey on it. so much excess drinking. the seesaw is heaving on the con side
Nick Bone wrote:can we rename the technique from "wank and strangle" to "wrangle then strangle"
aside from that, interesting reading about everyone off the piss. coincidently enough, was thinking about going cold turkey on it. so much excess drinking. the seesaw is heaving on the con side
By far the best thing I ever did was give up the piss. Very hard when you’re entire friend groups revolve around it however the pros outweigh this by far.
I could talk about it for ages, the struggles and the love from giving it up
Nick, I was a habitual drinker. Every night after work, crack a beer and have a few more. Maybe a cleansing cocktail to finish. I love alcohol and sad to admit, we have a lot of alcoholism past and present in our extended family.
I just wanted to see if I had the self-discipline to make it through a month. Surprisingly, wasn't that hard. I would have been so down on myself for being weak and failing so that's what motivated me. One month turned into two, then into three and now six.
I don't miss it. Go to bed early, get up early, clear as a bell and have saved a stack of cash which I can justify on a new board and fins. Plus, my wife is loving it. As said before, more lead in the pencil and harder.
I'm having a hard time seeing a downside.
"Sobriety?.....sobriety is boring as fuck"
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mattlock wrote:"Sobriety?.....sobriety is boring as fuck"
Whilst being a lifelong terminal drunk is so glamorous and enchanting!
I don't think it was a matter of that. Moreso just taking control.
Can't say I'll never drink again because I reckon one of lifes pleasures is enjoying a few drinks. I just don't want alcohol to define me or guide me.
Note the quotation marks DSDS.
Yup. Very big drinking culture down here. My drinking's not getting any better and rather get on top of it before it spirals out of control. Aside from close friends, I don't to well in social situations and will tend to liquor myself up just so I don't be so withdrawn and can mingle easier. The more I drink the more I find I rely on it.
A trademark would be to get boozed before a uncomfortable social situation then drink to excess and get sloppy/slurry etc. Be on another level to everyone else for no reason.
Going to see someone about my social "uncomfortableness" which should help out with not relying on the drinking. I want to see if I can go cold turkey but I'm not gonna scorn myself for one here or there.
Edit: I guess this fits under the Wellbeing umbrella and can be posted here haha
Really interesting to read about other people's health battles.
I nearly choked on my dinner when I read the opening post from groundswell! Top shelf stuff but in reality it's just expressing all too common problems many men experience and battle with every day. Nothing to be ashamed of.
For many years I went not knowing I was a coeliac. I was always a skinny, sickly looking kid with bad skin rashes and other issues. I used to get massive hangovers from beer, even just a six-pack.
After a couple failed years seeing doctors in my late teens, I went on an elimination diet and realised bread was making me sick. Then I got officially diagnosed.
After changing my diet I put on weight and muscle, and returned to full strength and health, and I didn't know life could be so good and that this was what it was like to be normal.
I'm not a big drinker but can handle a gluten free beer anytime with no issues.
Used to be a bit of a drinker up until bout a decade and a half ago. Mostly encouraged through work related (fishing) mates and it got to the point where I become dysfunctional for a while, not a proud time of my life. In the commercial boating world reputation is everything , and the glass monster had to go.
Having said that I still enjoy an evening ale most nights, but generally only a couple of mid strengths these days. All the best to anyone trying to pull the reins in.
Sounds pretty familiar Nick. Good to see you doing something about it. Good luck.
How much drinking are we talking when you say it’s problematic?
I love whisky. I like a beer on a hot day. I like good wine. I never wake up feeling hungover or tired, except for one or two days around Christmas.
When is a little bit too much? When is concern just wowserism?
I would also smoke a few Sampoerna a week, if I could get my hands on them, yet I’m pretty fucken fit and healthy for almost 60yo.
The amount of times I have said to myself "right thats it, I'm having a month off the piss (or 3 months 6 months whatever) and I'll always get to about 2-3 weeks and a little voice will pop in to my head saying, "wtf are you doing, you're not an alcoholic, you only live once, you only pretty much drink on weekends and maybe have one or two on a thursday night," then before you know it I'm off to the bottle'o for a sixer.
My will power is pathetic when it comes to that.
I know what you're saying about getting hammered in social settings too Bone to ease the uncomfortableness, done it pretty much forever myself
goofyfoot wrote:The amount of times I have said to myself "right thats it, I'm having a month off the piss (or 3 months 6 months whatever) and I'll always get to about 2-3 weeks and a little voice will pop in to my head saying, "wtf are you doing, you're not an alcoholic, you only live once, you only pretty much drink on weekends and maybe have one or two on a thursday night," then before you know it I'm off to the bottle'o for a sixer.
My will power is pathetic when it comes to that.
Geez that is me as well!. Generally stay off it during working week. Friday will generally have a few beers and wine, same Sat night and few Sunday Arvo beers, depending on social circumstances.
Travelling at the moment so most afternoons having a couple of beers, surfing heaps so don't think having negative effect there. Actually enjoying a very nice Beerfarm Pale Ale now.
Have gone without for a while and do sleep better and save $$. But so many good beers to sample, and red wine. Love whisky, but dont touch it as it is too strong... Unless very special occasion.
Moderation in all things including moderation..
The industry I was in was saturated with alcohol and even when I came here, I just continued on where I left off. Japan has a huge drinking culture and it's so cheap to drink here. I too love beer, wine and I love whisky. I'm very partial to nice Gins and Vodkas too and of course Japanese spirits, Sake and Shohchu.
I would drink a nice crafty beer in a bottle straight after work, then polish off 3 x 500ml cans of Yebisu or Suntory Premium Malts which are very nice premium beers here. Usually after that, I'd have one or two Vodka/Gin sonics (half soda half tonic) as a mouth cleanser before bed of maybe a glass or two of wine. Usually in bed around midnight and up at 6 ish. This was every night of the week. I'd fall asleep quickly and that left my wife pissed because she's a light sleeper and me stumbling to bed annoyed the hell out of her. Also, she might have been keen but gave up because I'd fallen asleep before my head hit the pillow. Then of course I'd get up a couple of times to piss. I'd been doing this for years.
Since my surfing had been suffering the last couple of years and also the impact on my marriage, I just went fuck it, set a date and stopped. Still got tons of booze in the other fridge but haven't touched it.
And to reiterate, now I go to bed early, get up early, am clear headed, lost a fair bit of weight, make love more often and save a lot of money.
I was a problem drinker but now think I've got a handle on it. I plan on being a social drinker from now on.
Also, tbh, I have always been pretty confident in a room but also am quite aware have also been that drunken idiot too. I know which one I prefer.
In the spirit of health and fitness, here’s tonight’s workout.
50 dead lifts 70kg
50 chins ( still using a band assist)
100 push-up
50 sit outs
50 box jumps (75 cm)
+lots of skipping before during after.
Covid has sorted out my vice for the moment. Smoking weed. Not drinking is easy, not being stoned is harder for me. Especially when my favourite fitness routine was get cooked then go smash myself at the gym. Haven’t been in the Muay Thai gym for about 9 months. Getting that one going again seems to the hardest mental block of all. Once the lungs are back on track I’m in again………I hope.
zenagain wrote:The industry I was in was saturated with alcohol and even when I came here, I just continued on where I left off. Japan has a huge drinking culture and it's so cheap to drink here. I too love beer, wine and I love whisky. I'm very partial to nice Gins and Vodkas too and of course Japanese spirits, Sake and Shohchu.
I would drink a nice crafty beer in a bottle straight after work, then polish off 3 x 500ml cans of Yebisu or Suntory Premium Malts which are very nice premium beers here. Usually after that, I'd have one or two Vodka/Gin sonics (half soda half tonic) as a mouth cleanser before bed of maybe a glass or two of wine. Usually in bed around midnight and up at 6 ish. This was every night of the week. I'd fall asleep quickly and that left my wife pissed because she's a light sleeper and me stumbling to bed annoyed the hell out of her. Also, she might have been keen but gave up because I'd fallen asleep before my head hit the pillow. Then of course I'd get up a couple of times to piss. I'd been doing this for years.
Since my surfing had been suffering the last couple of years and also the impact on my marriage, I just went fuck it, set a date and stopped. Still got tons of booze in the other fridge but haven't touched it.
And to reiterate, now I go to bed early, get up early, am clear headed, lost a fair bit of weight, make love more often and save a lot of money.
I was a problem drinker but now think I've got a handle on it. I plan on being a social drinker from now on.
Also, tbh, I have always been pretty confident in a room but also am quite aware have also been that drunken idiot too. I know which one I prefer.
Appreciate that honesty. Yep by the sound of it you were drinking too much. No moderation there with 2 litres of beer in ya belly every night. Glad you could turn it around.....
All the best ..
Used to binge drink when young 18- 25 just going out on weekends. Then work all week and do it again. As i got a little older i have been drinking pretty much daily for about a little over 20 years. During the week 3-4 beers a glass of wine during the week. Have about 6-10 beers during weekends Less binge drinking. Last few years noticed i have been having 5-6 beers weekdays during the night- then a nightcap - a shot or two of whisky, a Margarita, a baileys, red wine whatever i had in the cupboard. during the weekend maybe 8-10 beers and a few nightcaps.
Noticed i was starting to have mental health issues- anxiety on edge, uncomfortable feelings dizzyness. Felt normal when i had 2 or 4 beers. Similar to GSCO also recently diagnosed celiacs. Found i could drink more after diet change - not bloated so much and not as hungiover either. So alcohol intake increased but with diet change i was feeling overall better.
But have now put the connection with the mental health issues and alcohol consumption. So also trying to reduce, get off it.
Actually 10 days in at the moment, grabbed a beer this arvo. Was having a strong craving. was drinking it when i came across this which was great and didn't open another.
Never thought my drinking was out of the ordinary, a few beers after work, after a surf after footy after cricket. When you go out - of course , its what you do. Same as some others i just enjoyed getting drunk in social occassions. celebrations etc. Always a happy drunk, not agro. Anyway it certainly creeps up on you and then you have a habit. I knew it, but didn't recognize/ associate the mental health as its toll. Glad now i realise it and have a issue with it and can purposely try to manage. I am still surfing and active, participate in other sport,
Point been - especially to younger guys/girls. It can creep up and bite you if you not careful.
That's the crux of it. You think all is cool then it becomes a habit that slowly creeps up on you. Before you know it, it's almost as if you can't function unless you have a few drinks.
I've had probably 3 days off work sick in the last 20 years, never late, could always do my job competently. I just loved unwinding at the end of the day with a coldie and of course I love the social aspect of it. Nothing I enjoy more than pairing good food with alcohol and conversation.
I guess it's one of those things that you need to strike a balance with and of course that's easier said than done.
Very true. Recognition that there is a problem can be hard, and you have to be ready to make the changes. I think opportunitities for conversations like this are really helpful. Keep em coming.
zenagain wrote:That's the crux of it. You think all is cool then it becomes a habit that slowly creeps up on you. Before you know it, it's almost as if you can't function unless you have a few drinks.
I've had probably 3 days off work sick in the last 20 years, never late, could always do my job competently. I just loved unwinding at the end of the day with a coldie and of course I love the social aspect of it. Nothing I enjoy more than pairing good food with alcohol and conversation.
I guess it's one of those things that you need to strike a balance with and of course that's easier said than done.
I'm not trying to be Devil's Advocate, Zen, but it sounds like your modest alcohol consumption is actually working perfectly for you. Almost like how people drink in the Mediterranean countries: regularly, but never to the point of getting plastered or dysfunctional.
My point is that while we should be vigilant, there's no reason to beat ourselves up over very little.
Zen and the Art of Not Drinking.
"It is easier to stop drinking when you can than when you can't."
I would encourage you to keep going grog free Zen. I stopped in my mid thirties, in my 60's now. Didn't have any big epiphany, just stopped for a while and kept going because all these positives became apparent and didn't want to lose those by drinking. Some of my mates that kept going ended up o.k., some didn't and the grog has fucked them. I still have vices and addictions and do naughty things I shouldn't, but it's much easier to manage that behavior because I'm not pissed all the time.
I haven't had a single bit of booze/weed/smokes in about a decade now. It wasn't really a decision I chose and it's a bit of a funny story in some ways. I was dosed up heavily with some pretty wild hallucinogens (datura-like plant for those into that scene) when I was working in Lombok. Came out of it on the other side a very different person, and it took months if not years for the paranoia to calm down. Booze/weed/etc can all trigger very intense flashbacks so I just stay completely clear of it.
For years I was definitely an odd ball in social situations in Australia, even if I was much healthier for it. It has completely changed now, with so many people wanting to see if their life is any different off the booze. Most pubs down here have half a dozen non-alcoholic beers and wine etc and nobody bats an eyelid if you're not drinking. A different story when I was in Alice last year, where a bloke not drinking was still worthy of an interrogation.
I think the Australian drinking culture in general has a very long way to go before it resembles anything healthy, but people around the world have been casually drinking booze for a long time and there's plenty of examples of how to do it in a positive way.
Everyone is different.
I have no probs taking months off the booze and do it regularly.
As others have alluded to, that does come at a cost to my social life.
Not that I can't do social engagements sober, I have done many times.
I just don't enjoy it, and so tend to become a real hermit when I'm off the booze altogether. Which probably isn't that great for you in the long run.
Standing around sober, when others are getting a glow on is awkward and irritating.
Tried the alcohol free beer/booze method as a way of dealing with that and it didn't work for me at all.
Regular breaks, a few bevvies here and there when I'm getting out and about more, and things go much better for me.
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