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hey, don't hate on me, I'm just a humble biscuit-design apprentice. Third year, admittedly, so soon to be among the elite.. I think all sides are fine, and as people fade from the centre and disappear up their own horizons, they become odder and are usually suffering from traumas unknown, so my bleeding-heart goes out to them.
Hahaha @gsco
Hmmmm, Let’s see who’s had the unhinged rants in the last few pages. ;-)
Fuse is short as bro.
All good mate. You just keep on keeping on. Glad you’ve got Western civilisation’s back tho. You and Donald. Freedom fighters Inc.
don't these guys live in asia?
The after dark crew are usually not active in daylight. Make of that what you will.
sypkan wrote:"Which ones?"
all of them!
it's the gross inequality that is half of the problem...
all of it?
3/4 of it...
the gross wealth shift we've all witnessed, and the outsourcing of government responsibility...
the neoliberalism
that the so called 'progressives' will defend vehemently...
(even as the last vestige of truth slips away...)
Couple points with my 2 cents, about to head back out.
Yes agree gross inequality is the major issue causing the majority of problems both domestically and internationally...
Is Trump going to address this? nup, fark he just wants to give further tax breaks to billionaire class. And it seems bring down world economy with it, but hey he may hurt those nasty Chinese.
So it's neoliberalism causing this , yep agree again. But that has not been caused by transgender Marxist Lefty university students marching for the Palestinian cause.
It's been caused by the billionaire class, the very ones supporting Trump wanting further tax breaks. Will not go into military industrial complex here.
As for any report coming out of whitehouse, yeah ... Na...
gs-co wrote:The billionaires are not even the ones who are the problem.
Davos/WEF is just a bunch of progressives sitting around plotting how to do away with the two pillars of freedom and prosperity - namely democracy and capitalism - and replace them with their new world order of global tyranny in the form “stakeholder capitalism”.
This is just rule by unelected progressive elites who think they’re superior to the everyday citizen serf peasant pleb like you and me. So they think they should be in charge and calling the shots on planet earth. We are all uneducated racist redneck bogans. Just ask basesix.
But don’t worry, the progressives’ global tyranny will be different to all the others - they’ll be benevolent and make decisions in the interests of everyone, not just themselves. It will all be a lovey dovey fuckfest of eco cult communist utopia like never seen before.
It certainly won’t end in concentration camps, mass slaughter and human suffering like every previous dictatorship has. It’ll be free love like the 70s again!
And double don’t worry, their progressive dictatorship won’t be anything like Europe under the EC…they’ll actually get their globalist tyrannical utopia right this time.
And triple don’t worry, they’ll exterminate all conservative far right fascists, who are the true terrorist treats of humanity, not those peaceful benevolent fun loving Islamists of Gaza - they’re freedom fighters I tell you! Those pesky conservatives will not thwart their plans this time, the far right will be eliminated once and for all, the progressives will be sure of that!
Anyone read what Tulsi just released?
All the labour, green and social democratic governments across the West are licking their lips. All their dreams of eco dictatorship are about to come true!
Oh and etarip you still have such a short fuse
Really, I really cannot believe you are just not taking the piss...
Good job sir.
Just been out doing the mowing before an arvo beach walk. Listened to this interview with Canadian PM, Mark Carney. Felt a little bit proud of my analysis after "liberation day" as he says that since trump has effectively started removing the US as a reliable trading partner, that all other countries will just start to bypass it on trade. This isn't some two bit chump with a microphone, it's the guy who will likely win the Canadian election, ironically thanks in part to trump.
But he does come across as a serious person. A joy to listen to in this day and age.
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@gs co and @spyscam , must be on the same
synthetic hallucinogenic,
Wow that is a trippy vision right there.
wow, you think there's a correlation between the two @jef?
Geez Chinese guy kind of nails it at 23min mark...
https://m.
The right wing stacked US Supreme Court
Just issued a 1am emergency ruling ,
to block the Trump regime from sending another group of Venezuelan migrants to the ElSalvador extermination camps .
basesix wrote:wow, you think there's a correlation between the two @jef?
Didn’t you know, gos co and spy plane are flat mates
Sharing the same landlord and News sources.
And outside acquaintances !
Carney is the quintessential WEF globalist progressive liberal wealthy elite. He will finish Trudeau’s job of destroying Canada. Death via progressivism. He is definitely enemy number 1 of the US Republicans, and it’s only natural and expected that he also views them as his enemy number 1. Ideologically they are worlds apart, and basically at war with each other.
Hhmmm my dream of becoming an academic is ruined by this thread lately.
Seems so stressful fighting woke when all I want is to be turd. Oops I mean heard. I might just relax and read a book on Mussolini.
I don’t why ‘progressive’ is a bad word. Making things better is bad? Anyway, I guess you are delighted to feel you are winning the war against tolerance.
Back in my day young man Wally…….
We kept the ethnics, the blacks and the foreigners in their place? MAGA.
Make America Great (white) Again.
Progressivism is Marxism packaged up in a new terminology. It’s got nothing to do with progress or making things better. It’s large steps backwards in the historical trajectory of western civilisation. They are engaged in the assisted suicide of the west.
There’s also nothing tolerant about it. The progressives have won the war against tolerance. They are the most intolerant of them all, particularly towards their fellow countrymen and the ordinary citizen.
They also spectacularly won the virtue signalling contest.
Yes, but the real world, here in Australia, doesn’t exist anywhere near those intolerant outliers you’ve dived down to yourself.
'progressive' isn't a bad word...
but it is interesting that it has become a pejorative
much like 'socialist', and even 'left' generally...
much to do with what gs-co said
and, that things have developed to such a level of nonsensical stupidity, that even those on the left, will now refer to 'the progressive left' as 'the regressive left'
food for thought there
for those still capable of digestion...
No, real people are not getting around saying anything like this.
Perjoratives is your shtick and you throw around all the lefty labels which exposes your slipstream to the ->->->
I’ll sit in the partly stupid centre.
this marxism / progressive label - and Its hyper-strong vehement denial - is an interesting conundrum...
the fact of the matter is, that all these critical theories that have developed over recent decades, do have some basis in marxism
critical race theory, critical feminism theories, gender theories, post structuralism, post modernism, post colonialism, etc etc. all came from somewhere...
this can be attributed to the embracing and development of progressive thought process and practice that benski described earlier
we now have had two generations through universities where these theories have been the very basis for things like the humanities and education, and especially sociology...
which even gets a smattering of a run through courses like economics...
you can argue til the cows come home if uni departments are stacked with 'marxists' or not...
but to argue that generations of education, decades of social studies, indigenous studies, criminal justice studies, law, gender studies - and by extension - government policy - hasn't experienced some form of contemporary marxist influence, is to deny 3 or 4 decades of academic 'progress'
you can't have it both ways...
I actually avoid using the term 'progressive' like the plague
due to its loaded nature...
go back over my posts, unless someone else is talking about it, I rarely raise it
That’s right hey? Vast majority of Australians or any nationality have been to university have they? and are corrupted?
You are living in a bubble. Do you exist in the real world? I don’t think you understand that your world isn’t in touch.
Critical this critical that? Farkenhell!
You must by gsco.
damn asians.
How about the
“ Don’t swipe me off the street and send me to an ElSalvadorian prison camp, without telling anyone “, critical theory/ idealogical ideology ?
read it again seeds
we have generations of people educated in these theories, that have made, and are influencing government policy
these theories aren't inherently bad, I use
the influences myself in my work, they are a tool...
the problem lies, when you throw the baby out with the bathwater, and overly embrace them as gospel, often throwing the scientific method out with the bath water...
it is subtle, but basically it comes down to hard date versus personal perspectives
quantitative analysis versus qualitative analysis
which has culminated in terms like 'her truth' and 'her lived experience' taking precedence over any counter arguments...
regardless of how good they may be
the qualitative studies and experience...(subjective, perspective, opinion) have become the trump card if you will...
it doesn't have to be an either / or
both have their place
That’s not official yet Jeff. It hasn’t annoyed the old cunt uni lecturer bubble enough.
basesix wrote:damn asians.
excellent example!
google the harvard intake debacle...
and how asians have been denied entry for considerable time, simply for being over achievers...
it's a great example, of how political ideology has overridden, what appears to be any semblance of 'fairness'
it also opens the door to contemporary arguments about maths, science, and so called 'white supremacy'...
which seem to ignore 1000's of years of asian academic achievement in these areas
the irony is dripping!!
dripping... mmm...
Her truth or his doesn’t wash with real people. Real people aren’t interested in either end of the political spectrum fucktardisms. Woke doesn’t exist in the real persons world. People aren’t stupid. Or triggered. Or give a shit about the right media generated shite. Stupid people are and you can not help them. They are at either extreme.
old 'hard date' sypkan wrote:it is subtle, but basically it comes down to hard date versus personal perspectives...
which has culminated in terms like 'her truth' and 'her lived experience' taking precedence over any counter arguments...
Hahahaha
Google the Harvard intake debacle. Hahah that’s right. That’s what’s keeping me back in life.
Whatever the fuck it is I won’t be knowing.
Your Honour I rest my case.
Syppy, you wouldn’t know a good time if it sat on your face and wiggled.
if you're not interested... then don't...
I don't care
but this is what others are talking about
denying it even exists...
government policy is based on this shit
it affects all us, directly and indirectly
if you two wanna talk sandwiches... go do it...
you don't need to get all snarky and triggered about it
just go...
ignore that which doesn't interest you
I really don't get why you guys get all bent out of shape about people talking about stuff
it is a forum...
Ollie..
Stan
gs-co wrote:Carney is the quintessential WEF globalist progressive liberal wealthy elite. He will finish Trudeau’s job of destroying Canada. Death via progressivism. He is definitely enemy number 1 of the US Republicans, and it’s only natural and expected that he also views them as his enemy number 1. Ideologically they are worlds apart, and basically at war with each other.
When did Trump stop talking about annexation of Canada and Tariffs?
Was that after the US tourism industry crashed,and he realised he was ruining the election chances of Pierre Poilievre and
Maple MAGA. ?
And now Rubio walking away from the war Trump would end in a day.
sypkan wrote:if you're not interested... then don't...
I don't care
but this is what others are talking about
denying it even exists...
government policy is based on this shit
it affects all us, directly and indirectly
if you two wanna talk sandwiches... go do it...
you don't need to get all snarky and triggered about it
just go...
ignore that which doesn't interest you
I really don't get why you guys get all bent out of shape about people talking about stuff
it is a forum...
No, it’s not being talked about much other than superficially. Most people don’t need a catheter to deal with it.
What Trump didn’t realise that China is already a dictatorship and the Chinese population are used to hardship and being told what to do, and can’t vote out
Xi Jinping
Unlike the spoilt materialistic Americans ,
who hopefully won’t stand for it.
Trump also didn’t realise that Canada
developed the modern sport of Ice Hockey with the first indoor game being played in Montreal on March 3 1875 .
Canada is the inventor of “Elbows Up “ and
Bench clearing fights with hockey sticks,
Ice hockey is their ideaology !
Especially against the US .
Sttaaaaaannnnnn!
sypkan wrote:read it again seeds
we have generations of people educated in these theories, that have made, and are influencing government policy
these theories aren't inherently bad, I use
the influences myself in my work, they are a tool...the problem lies, when you throw the baby out with the bathwater, and overly embrace them as gospel, often throwing the scientific method out with the bath water...
it is subtle, but basically it comes down to hard date versus personal perspectives
quantitative analysis versus qualitative analysis
which has culminated in terms like 'her truth' and 'her lived experience' taking precedence over any counter arguments...
regardless of how good they may be
the qualitative studies and experience...(subjective, perspective, opinion) have become the trump card if you will...
it doesn't have to be an either / or
both have their place
Transgender Marxism 101 for any medical or engineering degree these days...
Struth, they are everywhere!!!!
Tom Morello , one of the standouts at
Byron Bluesfest 2025 on the guitar.
He might be playing now ?
it's very easy, and obvious, seeds, and co.
Everyone sees things from the vantage point of their own lived experience.
You seeds live in the Noosa hinterland, I'd say Cootharaba or Kin Kin area. Absolutely beautiful part of the country. I particularly love Cedar Pocket.
You might go in for a surf at Rainbow or DI, in which case you're squarely in redneck bogan Wide Bay bundy rum 4wd country! I know it well.
Or you might have a surf at Noosa, in which case you're smack bang in wealthy and highly conservative regional coastal Australia. Everyone there is actually vibrant and happy, out living and enjoying life and the beautiful natural environment and everything Noosa and Western civilisation has to offer and spent thousands of years building. Everyone in Noosa hit the jackpot of life. No one is sitting around disgruntled and plotting the demise of capitalism and the West, hoping to replace it with globalist communism and concentration camps for the conservatives and the "far right".
The point is: You are one of the people on planet earth who is the least exposed to the current massive wave of lunatic progressivism...neo-Marxism...critical race theory...DEI...anti-West hatred...extreme left ideology...critical gender and militant feminism studies...critical social justice...queer theory...ESG...what they call being a liberal in Canada and the US...all that stuff Syp said above.
And it's the same for most other contributors in these forums. Many are living in smaller rural coastal towns, living and breathing the surfing culture, tradies, working class, going down the local pub or RSL on a Friday night with their mates. They're just not exposed to any of this lunatic left stuff.
But this lunatic left stuff is the norm, not the exception. Most people in Australia live in the city. Most people in the city work in the public service/bureaucracy, or in a smaller professional office environment, or in a large global corporate, or in a university, etc.
Now consider one of my recent lived experiences. Take for example working in a top 3 Australian university.
Walk the isles of the staff offices - what do you see? What kinds of posters are plastered on every available square foot of wall space? It's all rainbow and indigenous posters, lgbtq+ trans advocacy, indigenous advocacy, pro Palestine and Hamas advocacy, etc.
What are the topics of discussion over lunch and in faculty meetings? What are the hiring directives from HR? Who are the new staff being hired?
What kind of people do you see working in there nowadays compared to 25 years ago - what's their hair colour, their gender, their nationality, were they born in Australia, what's their political affiliation, what's their research interests and publishing record? What kind of visiting researchers do universities invite to give talks to the faculty, and what it the themes of their seminars? What is the main topics of conversation that immediately come out of their mouths?
Some are even migrants publishing militantly anti-West research and then stepping out into the pro Hamas protests and encampments in their spare time to advocate their cause... How did they even get to Australia in the first place?
Honestly, and do you know how I am treated and viewed nowadays in a university environment as a fit, strong, handsome, masculine, tanned, heterosexual, blonde haired, blue eyed, Christian white male who is full of life and confidence, and just went for a 2hr surf this morning? I'm the enemy. I'm everything these people have been fighting against. It's completely inappropriate that someone like me is even alive and kicking on planet earth nowadays. They all look at each other in bewilderment that I'm even standing there - they thought my type was eradicated from universities in the 2000s via DEI hiring. It mostly was.
And what kind of training and induction do you have to sit through to even start working there? I'd describe it more as a re-education and indoctrination camp of lunatic progressive ideology. It's all DEI, ESG, pro trans and indigenous advocacy, pro immigration and "cultural enrichment" - it's all fully critical race theory themed. What you're really doing is being forced to swear allegiance to the lunatic left progressive ideology in order to work there.
In one's daily worklife there, under no circumstance can you hint at having even the remotest inkling of supporting anything even remotely conservative. If you do, you're set upon by the lunatic progressive tribal mob. There is no such thing as free speech in universities any more, unless it militantly anti Western culture.
Lunatic left progressivism is like a massive cleanup set that has swept through the whole public service and corporate world, universities, etc. It saturates every aspect of city life and one's professional existence.
It is actually you who is living in a Kin Kin bubble, completely oblivious to what's currently happening in the "real" world.
“ Honestly, and do you know how I am treated and viewed nowadays in a university environment as a fit, strong, handsome, masculine, tanned, heterosexual, blonde haired, blue eyed, Christian white male who is full of life and confidence, and just went for a 2hr surf this morning? I'm the enemy. I'm everything these people have been fighting against.”
Have you considered that maybe your (perceived) treatment by others isn’t actually due to any of the ‘qualities’ that you’ve listed here?
You clearly got a seething sense of injustice. Maybe that plays out subconsciously in your interactions with others in the workplace?
Very well put gs-co.
Very quickly, my own experience: I moved to NZ in 2001 and settled in Wellington, our capital and seat of govt. I loved how there was a healthy mix of govt, business, trades, arts, creative industries etc. And everybody got along and mixed and had drinks together in what was a very vibrant city.
This started changing in the mid 2010s, and went into overdrive during and after Covid. The Ardern govt rode that wave and milked it, and all of a sudden there was only one way to think and speak and vote.
Businesses started folding, but "we don't need those fascist exploiters anyway!"
My wife and I escaped in 2020, lucky to work and live in a small but very diverse town, full of practical people, but I still work for the same organisation and occasionally visit to see old friends and colleagues. My work place has changed radically, and has indeed been radicalised, and I'm seen as a bit of a freak. Younger colleagues, only recently out of university, are almost another species.
I could go on, but promised to keep it brief. Tl; dr: life is different in the cities, and very different and uniform anywhere academia/govt adjacent.
Gsco Sounds like you can’t see outside the bubble and are hyper sensitive to ways you don’t agree with.
Well you can see outside the bubble because you describe it above. All that you hate doesn’t transfer to the outside world. It’s just a small part of it.
Luckily for you most lose those ideals as they grow older.
Maybe your Christianity is the root of your narrow mindedness.
How is there ‘only one way to vote’ in NZ?
Can you expand on this? Genuinely interested? Or is that a social construct?
And what I find interesting about both these accounts ^^ is that there’s a sense (explicitly in gs-co’s version) that the contributor is being discriminated against because of their demographic, religious and political beliefs.
Funnily enough, there are avenues for this to be investigated, validated and action to be taken.
I don’t think you’ll find many people that haven’t reflected, at some point, on elements of our current social fascination with the individual - but to conflate that with a sense that our civilisation is somehow under siege is just hyperbolic nonsense. Especially by those who turn a blind eye to ongoing, tangible assaults on the basis of western liberal democracy by the political faction that they ‘support’
Oh, and it both cases, it sounds like you might just be getting old. No offense intended.
etarip wrote:“ Honestly, and do you know how I am treated and viewed nowadays in a university environment as a fit, strong, handsome, masculine, tanned, heterosexual, blonde haired, blue eyed, Christian white male who is full of life and confidence, and just went for a 2hr surf this morning? I'm the enemy. I'm everything these people have been fighting against.”
Have you considered that maybe your (perceived) treatment by others isn’t actually due to any of the ‘qualities’ that you’ve listed here?
You clearly got a seething sense of injustice. Maybe that plays out subconsciously in your interactions with others in the workplace?
What he describes is not at all unique, people in similar positions in al Western countries are saying exactly the same things some have even lost their jobs for pushing back or not towing the lines.
And it's not just white guys that are saying these things women and people of colour are too.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank