Long range E swell overlapped by spike in wintry S swell Thurs/Fri

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Steve Shearer (freeride76)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Steve Shearer (issued Monday 2 Aug)

SE Qld Forecast Summary (tl;dr)

  • Fun, long range E'ly swell Tues, showing best Wed as winds swing offshore
  • Building S'ly swell Thurs PM with light winds, holding  Fri, easing Sat, best suited to S swell magnets
  • Quiet period ahead next week so get what you can from this week

Northern NSW Forecast Summary (tl;dr)

  • E'ly swell Tues, showing best Wed as winds swing offshore
  • Strong building S'ly swell Thurs from mid-morning with light winds, holding Fri before easing late in the day.
  • Fun levels of mixed S swell keep S swell magnets active all weekend with light winds.
  • Possible flukey SE swell Mon/Tues next week
  • Quiet period ahead from next week so make hay this week

Recap

Fairly crap-tacular weekend across the entirety of the region with a very spring-like combination of very little swell and N'ly winds. A faint E swell signal and some N'ly windswell delivered just-rideable waves for the (very) keen, favouring open beaches both days. A shallow trough has delivered a S'ly change which has now worked it's way north of the QLD border. Small levels of E swell are keeping conditions just surfable with a tiny SE swell signal just visible but not adding much to the mix. There's not much depth behind the change and winds are expected to lay down in strength through the remainder of Monday. 

This week (Aug 2 - 6)

Not much change expected from Fridays forecast. The weekend ASCAT (satellite windspeed) passes from the large low pressure gyre north of New Zealand looked healthy with areas of storm force winds embedded in a long, thin fetch of gales to severe gales. The issue was the fetch rapidly moving away through the swell window and into the swell shadow of the North Island. There’s reasonable confidence the fetch was semi-stationary for the better part of 24 hrs which leads to better odds the resultant E swell might punch at weight or slightly above. 

That would indicate some 2-3ft sets from the ENE building through Tuesday, most likely through the a’noon with the size holding into Wed- some 3ft+ sets can’t be ruled out- and tailing off through Thurs. Expect plenty of inconsistency and lulliness in the swell. Combined with a late shift in winds to the NW and WNW later Tuesday and all day freshening W to WSW winds on Wed it’ll be worth hunting down a suitable sand-bar that can handle a long lined E swell in the 10-12 second period band. Not always an easy task.

As mentioned on Friday the main feature of the synoptics this week is a series of cold fronts pushing across NSW and a complex Tasman low expected to form E of Tasmania overnight Tuesday. The evolution of this pattern has stayed stable all weekend with successive model runs pushing an initial cold front with W/SW gales out of Bass Strait overnight Tuesday into early Wed morning. That lends a slim chance of MNC S swell magnets showing signs of life late on Wed. With brisk W’ly winds on offer it’ll be well worth keeping an eye on the late session as the swell fills in. Keep in mind, it’s much more likely to be flat and show after dark. Almost certain north of Ballina and over the border.

Thursday is a much better bet for a more solid spike in S swell. A series of severe gale SW winds slingshot around the eastern flank of the low, tracking NE into the Tasman and generating several S swell pulses, with the initial spike likely to propagate up the coast through Thurs morning in the 3-5ft range at S facing beaches. This swell front should reach the QLD border mid afternoon but keep expectations low with the straight S angle shaving off most of the size by the time it gets north of Cape Byron and Point Danger. 2-3ft sets are likely at Goldy S swell magnets, with a few tiny peelers on the Points. Sunshine Coast is unlikely to show anything before dark.

The lifecycle of the low (before it gets whisked away to the E) plays out slightly more slowly than Fridays Forecast notes, which is great news for surfers. That lends high confidence to solid surf in the 3-5ft range holding into Friday morning at NENSW S facing beaches, with continuing W’ly through WSW’ly winds slackening into lunch-time with a possible late, light Seabreeze not affecting surface quality too much. By Fri lunch-time an easing trend will be underway in NENSW but there should be plenty of leftover juice to round out the working week if you can get there by close of play.

QLD swell magnets should see fun sized 2-3ft surf Fri, with Sunshine Coast Northern Corners being the biggest and best of it.

This weekend (Aug 7-8).

More S swell on offer this weekend as the Southern Ocean storm track remains extremely active and a deep polar low becomes slow moving in Tasmanian longitudes. Another cold front pushes a fetch of WSW gales through Bass Strait Fri, not quite as vigorous as Tuesdays front but with an already active sea state thats expected to produce another small pulse of S swell later Sat for NENSW. Residual S swell from the previous swell is expected to hold surf in the 2-3ft range and with more W’ly winds and possibly light NE seabreezes on offer there’ll be plenty of options available.  

SEQLD swell magnets will see the best of this surf but keep expectations extremely modest as far as size goes. This swell is as due south as it gets and by the time it wraps into QLD there won’t be much left of it. Rideable 2ft at S swell magnets would be at the upper end of the forecast range.

Sunday is a much trickier beast. Wave models aren’t showing much favour for the vast fetch below Tasmania extending to well below 50S due to the fact the winds are aimed at targets at the other end of the Tasman sea pipe (primarily New Zealand and Fiji) but it’s likely we’ll see long period S swell refract from the source fetch into NSW, possibly later Sun. With a regime of light land and seabreezes expected at this stage it might be well worth clearing a window for your favourite S facing beach later Sun. The longer period may favour some Sunshine Coast swell magnets but again, keep expectations pegged low.  At any rate, there’ll be enough S swell energy in the water to produce some fun waves Sun.

Next week (Aug 9 onwards).

Fill up with what you can from the upcoming series of S swells. The slow moving polar low dissipates on the weekend, possibly producing a flukey SE swell Mon or Tues Aug 10 as the remnants of a cold front track towards New Zealand but the trend will be downwards from there with weak high pressure becoming stationary in the central/northern Tasman and effectively shutting the S swell window. That suggests a very low energy period from Tues next week, likely up until the end of the week at least. The Eastern swell window also looks very sleepy- just a weak tradewind band near New Caledonia by the end of next week which would be lucky to produce a knee high wave on open beaches. More on this in Wednesdays notes. For now, clear some windows for the end of the week/weekend.

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kaiser Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:16pm

OMG!!! You’ve been hacked!!! At least this time it’s giving credible surf forecasting, rather than eligible gregarious damsels from some bloc.

Although, I predict undercalls at lower lats, and overcalls the further north you go…

Odds on for a sprout/ free ride tete a tete in no time

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Sprout Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:53pm

He had me at 'gyre'.

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waxyfeet Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:16pm

Facing the music here eh @freeride76?
After giving the forecasters so much shit, you've been selected to put your money where your mouth is? :D

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linez Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:21pm

Have to ask FR, regular gig?
Nice write up.

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Andrew P Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:26pm

Well played FR! That’s one way to avoid the price of subscription! Wishing you all the best mate these keyboard warriors can bite

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Sprout Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:52pm

Hah! Mine runs out in March I think, pencil me in hey Ben.

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Henry Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:31pm

Well done freeride - good on ya for having a crack

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freeride76 Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:31pm

Thanks gents.

Every forecaster has their own "temperature" range. I like a cool bias, with plenty of head room for classic days.

No offence ever taken by Sunny coast surfers arguing the toss. I'm a Bribie boy, I understand perfectly.

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udo Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:34pm

And the Outsider is Back ...Yew !!

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Sprout Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 6:55pm

Great work Steve, good luck with it mate!

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donweather Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:01pm

Regular gig Steve? Full circle hey!!

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Patate Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:03pm

I have liked most of your comments to date ! Looking forward to read you even more regularly as the author,

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donweather Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:06pm

3-5ft for Nth NSW south swell magnets on Friday looks a little under done from what I’m seeing Steve.

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freeride76 Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:19pm

Hopefully an ugrade in Wed forecast if the ASCAT looks good Don.

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Rockethut Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:06pm

Yay some small swell on its way, barely enough to wet the appetite. Especially considering during lock down when it's already proven to result in increased crowd. Oh wait, the crowds are not the only issue....it's the lack of surf spots!
This stupid God dam coa..........ss.........coa...sss
Shut down initiated
Reboot in progress....
Successful.

Such a welcome relief to hear some small waves on the way. Can't wait for offshore winds and sunny weather to compliment this lockdown. What a wonderful place we live!

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Sprout Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:22pm

Be good for the daily report to have a reminder on the 10 kilometre Covid rule in place until Sunday. Keep your filth local you animals.

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cam.jw Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:12pm

Not good enough…I want more swell for the sunny coast please.

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tomrnoir Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:11pm

Had some shoulder-high sets in my hood this morning. Rubbish windswell though.

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cam.jw Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 1:40pm

Yeah I was surprised at the size when I was taking the dog for a walk. Should’ve gotten up earlier to squeeze in a paddle.

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ombak Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 7:14pm

Great write up, freeride. Just the right amount of geek.

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scrotina Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 8:05pm

well written

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tiger Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 8:24pm

Stevo is back. And the bearer of good news......well, ok news!

Would it be asking too much, for a little fishing forecast too mate?

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Captainsurf Monday, 2 Aug 2021 at 9:25pm

The Outsider is back in!

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groundswell85 Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:01am

Special request to the new intern Stephen. Can you do two forecasts. Gold Coast/Sunnycoast. Nnsw/mid nnsw. Makes perfect sense to separate these regions..

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spookypt Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 9:17am

Been calling for that here online for a very looooooong time.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 11:10am

You want SEQLD separated from NENSW??

Or Sunny Coast separated from Gold Coast?

 

For my experience, for a lot of swells, southern half of Goldy has more in common with Byron to the Border compared to the Sunshine Coast.

I will do my best to try and illuminate the different areas and how they are likely to respond to certain swells.

 

Few fun lefts at a regional backbeach this morning.

2ft+ or so, plenty of fun on a shortboard. Little bit more energy than I expected but this spot does hoover up E swells.

Anyone else get a piece of anything?

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cam.jw Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:01am

separate Sunny Coast from the Goldie. As you know its hit and miss up here as soon as there's any swell with an S direction in it.

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thermalben Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:06am

So, three seperate Forecaster Notes? Sunny Coast, Gold Coast, Northern NSW?

Using that logic, then why not the Mid North Coast too?

Point I'm trying to make: it might look easy to do, but preparing individual FC Notes for every single region is time consuming, which - as a small business - is a cost that's difficult to recoup.

Hence the tl;dr up top.

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Blowin Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:11am

Ben- Any chance we can get seperate forecasts for high and low tide?

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thermalben Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:15am

High tide, mid tide AND low tide, or nuthin'.

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Blowin Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:48am

Ben- You reckon I should go surfing now or a bit later?

Bearing in mind that I just finished an early lunch and feel a bit full, whilst later on it might get a bit cold and I’ll be tempted to get cozy and watch Netflix. What do the models recommend?

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thermalben Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:51am

America's Next Top Model on Netflix is recommending a jumbo-sized frozen coke, and a giant bag o' popcorn.

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cam.jw Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 12:45pm

come on, think outside the box here. You don't necessarily have to generate 3 different reports, just more effective referencing to the areas when angle of swell will make all the difference. Angle of south swells make all the difference up here....either dead flat or 3ft.

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Blowin Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 12:58pm

The surf forecast for each beach shows the exact degree angle of each swell. Not having a go at you, but I’m a blow in to my area and I can pretty much easily establish what coming days are going to be like after a relatively short period of trying. The notes are fine as far as I’m concerned. In fact I reckon they’re too detailed. The blatant “ head to South swell magnets” is literally telling crew to congregate in a handful of locations. It’s shithouse and it panders to the lowest common denominator. It’s something Joe Turpel would say if he was a forecaster.

I reckon the forecast should tell the story of the swell and the wind and let the punters figure it out for themselves. Some beach reporters - thankfully there’s none where I am- even tell crew which tide they should hit the beach for the best waves. Wouldn’t want to spread the crowd out over the whole day would we? Got to ensure that everyone is at the same beach at the same time so that the crowd peaks like a simultaneous orgasm.

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cam.jw Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 1:45pm

Send me the link where I can see the angle then I’m all good.
Didn’t know I was paying to build my own forecast.

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thermalben Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 1:59pm

Swell direction here: https://www.swellnet.com/reports/australia/queensland/sunshine-coast/for...

Most of the Sunny Coast is due N - S though some stretches are slightly more N/NE - S/SW, whilst the broader region is N/NW - S/SE.

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thermalben Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 1:15pm

It's not that easy though Cam. 

There's no hard and fast rules for exactly whether a south swell will work on one coast, and not on another. Been plenty of south swells this year that have delivered nicely in Coffs, bypassed Ballina, performed to spec across the Tweed, skipped the Gold Coast, and then provided waves to exposed northern ends of the Sunny Coast - but nowhere else north of Brisbane.

Every day brings another variation on the same theme. A little more than you'd expect in one spot, a little less elsewhere, whilst a completely seperate coast is bang on.

So, it's very difficult to go into more detail - by way of a seperate Forecaster Notes for each region - without doubling the written work required. Which, eventually devalues 'em, in my opinion.

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cam.jw Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 1:54pm

Freerides forecast did it nicely.......just saying.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 2:09pm

Cheers Cam. I'll do my best, as Ben has noted and many long suffering Sunny Coast surfers can attest to, it's a coastline that is not favourable for S swells, which is the dominant swell direction May-Sep.

Many false alarms, or disappointing outcomes relying on S swells on the Sunny Coast. 

I do have some local knowledge there so will try and pass it on.

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Sprout Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 4:04pm

Please don't pander to those who can't figure out something so simple, made even simpler by these forecasts.

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cam.jw Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 6:34pm

If I make the effort I would go figure it out but then I wouldn’t need to subscribe to a surf report…..
Thanks freeride. Good report and a fun small bump today

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Redmond Clement Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 10:01am

Can we expect a fishing report thrown in? And well done.

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spidermonkey Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 11:59am

2ft Northern Sunny coast, weak but peaky, not many spots to hide from the Northerly.

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thermalben Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:11pm

Saw a few clean two footers this morning on the Tweed, though it looked slow/inconsistent.

Pretty dreary day out there.

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Blowin Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:27pm

Putrid onshore slop.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 3:57pm

Looks like it's gurgled out .

predicted NW to W'ly winds haven't arrived either. 

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burleigh Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 4:02pm

thanks freeride76 for taking this forecast on. Love the fact that you have been on here commenting with updates also.

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Dmiller Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 6:48pm

Thoughts on swell being here in the morning?

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freeride76 Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 7:09pm

Swell periods from the E have come up, so that long range- New Zealand swell is in the water. Could see a few 2ft+ sets on dark.

Expect long waits and lulls though. Should be clean though.

Looks like the whole cold front/low development for the S swell is about 6-10 hrs behind schedule.

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Dmiller Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 7:14pm

Thanks mate! Appreciate it

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Jono Tuesday, 3 Aug 2021 at 9:16pm

Walked the dog on dark at my regular Tweed swell magnet and the E lines were definitely showing

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Solitude Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 8:22am

Magic conditions. 10 mins between long lined 2 foot sets this morning.

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thermalben Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 8:32am

East swell very inco but looking nice at Byron this AM.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 8:44am

Long wait but some clean lines. Shame it didn't have that extra foot on it......bathymetry was key to a fun surf.

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Solitude Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 8:53am

Yes for sure. Couldn't find that agreeable bottom today - as you say another foot and it would've been fine

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Sprout Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 9:23am

Yep, was hoping for more consistent 3, not quite there, fun all the same.

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tomrnoir Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 5:16pm

+1. Plenty of mad dog shortboarders in the lineup with the lockdown. Still managed an enjoyable session though - crystal clear water is nice.

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tiger Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 10:56am

Yes. Some nice lines pushing in, clean offshore. But poor bankthymetry to make much of it

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Craig Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:06am

Ha.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 10:59am

found a nice little bank with a mid morning pulse.

deffo the odd 3footer.

dead flat in between.

 

some big tuna busting up out wide Tiger.

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tiger Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 2:00pm

What do you reckon they were? Water was quite cold and green down my way. Can't imagine longy's being around, maybe big Mack tuna? Plenty of activity here too, little patches of what looked like bonito chopping around.

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thermalben Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 11:22am

Nice small corduroy rolling down the Superbank.


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simsurf Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 1:46pm

Hold on doesn't the forecast say the swell will be dead south on Saturday? Fool me once...

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Redmond Clement Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 5:31pm

A bit like west oz today great fun.

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bluediamond Wednesday, 4 Aug 2021 at 6:30pm

Was fun hey! And added to that, some obscure bright warming object hovered in the sky for most of the day adding to the days delights!