That’s weird, that’s queer, that’s crazy, that deserves a long hard look.

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burleigh Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 11:18am
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Ah I see the usual crowd has come to infest another thread.

The question is, who will get banned this time? And how long and til this thread is killed?

Anyway, isn't it just thought I'd drop in to remind everyone how there's effectively no restrictions at all anymore......oh, except for in healthcare environments or where vulnerable people are. Funny that isn't it.

Did they not get the memo?

Not really cok, fireman in nsw and vic still have to be vaxed, nice try though.

https://www.2gb.com/vaccine-mandates-are-still-preventing-firefighters-r...

Insane. Fit healthy men and women forbidden from returning to save lives due to an experimental medical procedure for a virus that is no more than a mild flu.

Stok, you’ve got a lot to answer for chump.

At least Sok knows if his house is on fire he will be protected by the vaxed fireman lol

Really surprised the unvaccinated are still alive. They still need to be punished for clogging the hospitals...... oh wait, sorry that's the vaccinated.

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Supafreak Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 11:39am

@udo , the problem I have with George Webb is , in his videos he’s always saying’ probably ‘ and ‘ if ‘ he also talks a lot about his theories which who knows if they are on the money or not ?Pfizer would know but they aren’t talking yet , why is that ? https://twitter.com/realgeorgewebb1/status/1623841550533894145?s=46&t=8mox0i1z_6KErV3_skJIwA

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FriarTuck Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 12:34pm

Here's one for toadill and nocludo who love the cooker rabbit hole folk lol

https://www.news.com.au/sport/majorly-cooked-sporting-legends-pat-cash-a...

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Here's one for toadill and nocludo who love the cooker rabbit hole folk lol

https://www.news.com.au/sport/majorly-cooked-sporting-legends-pat-cash-a...

Well, if news.com.au are calling them cookers it must be true. Roadkill logic

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-10/fact-check-covid19-vaccines-chemt...

Fact Checker websites have been used to manipulate cookers like yourself and the toad for the past few years. Would love to look back and see what these fact checkers got wrong. I bet it heaps.

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udo Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 1:12pm

Do it..
How about a Swellnet Cookers List as well

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Do it..

You seem to have plenty of spare time, but i doubt you would want to prove yourself wrong

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Welcome to the wonderful world of MSM

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Welcome to the wonderful world of MSM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cod3YCyAEfu/?igshid=MDM4ZDc5MmU=

lol, Nine and 2Gb were one of the biggest pushers of the jab.
Ray Hadley the biggest, probs who toadill and nocludo listen to everyday.

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FriarTuck Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 4:19pm

At least Karl drew the line at 2 and is seeing the light re vax injuries, Hadley is lining up for his 3rd Barry booster and has head in the sand.

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Have a read.

https://theconversation.com/how-to-talk-to-someone-about-conspiracy-theo...

does it mention russia, sex, and a dashboard?

I've heard there's been some twisted shit going down...

those 'russians' will fuck anything...

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Ah I see the usual crowd has come to infest another thread.l

A severe lack of self awareness....unsurprisingly from this commenter.
You do realise, that when you are sitting in traffic, complaining about the traffic, you are also the traffic.

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https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/politics/tear-the-place-down-in...

I personally thought most politicians were 'cookers'.
Interesting this 'influential' media outlet chose to feather and tar, string up and ridicule these two relatively unknowns. Never heard names like this bandied at other potential canditates let alone gutter dwelling former prime ministers and cabinet members.
I sense an agenda, I smell a rat.

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Australian researchers find protein in lung that blocks COVID infection https://www.axios.com/2023/02/10/australian-study-receptor-blocks-covid-...

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Supafreak Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 7:39pm

Exclusive: 26.8 million doses of Covid-19 vaccine wasted More than 26 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines have been wasted in Australia since they became available two years ago, according to the hidden findings of a report commissioned by Health Minister Mark Butler last year.

The report also warned that Australia could face a “catastrophic” new Covid-19 variant, which may render vaccines ineffective; that contradictory health advice to government is undermining confidence in vaccines; and that advisory structures need an overhaul to be ready for another emergency.

The report, written by former senior bureaucrat Jane Halton, warned that, even after the change of government, nobody is properly in charge of the Covid-19 response. “There is no clear mechanism nor mandate across these structures to ensure all sources of input are integrated as a basis for decision-making, distribution, education and delivery.”

It said the structures and processes that existed before the pandemic “were not fit for purpose” and did not work in an emergency context. “With the likelihood of continuing waves of Covid-19 and the need for ongoing, integrated advice, new advisory structures and mandates will be required,” the report said. “It is timely to consider the role and nature of existing structures and processes. The ad hoc arrangements put in place at the beginning of the pandemic require updating.”

These further details emerged as Butler confirmed that between three and four million Australians have contracted Covid-19 in the current infection wave, which began in October last year, and that 2600 have died, of whom 800 were in aged care.

Butler said the wave is now subsiding and case numbers are down 80 per cent on the December peak, which was lower than for previous waves. He defended national cabinet’s decision to wind back mask-wearing and other protections late last year.
In September, Butler released the summary and recommendations of the Halton report, which he commissioned in June. It covered the purchase of Covid-19 vaccines and treatments under the previous government and what would be required in the future. At the time he did not release its full details, saying they were “commercial-in-confidence”.

The Saturday Paper applied for the full report under freedom of information (FOI) law and published details last month of what was obtained. Sections of the 153-page document were heavily redacted and some pages were missing, omitted without acknowledgment.

Among the grounds cited by the Health Department to support its redactions was that the relevant sections might disclose cabinet deliberations. The Saturday Paper requested a review of the FOI decision and was provided with a less-redacted version this week, which includes significant further details.

While the reviewer upheld several of the department’s arguments and maintained some redactions, its claim about cabinet deliberations was rejected and many of the blacked-out sections were restored. All of the missing pages were either fully restored or fully redacted, but with their existence at least noted.

When he released a summary of the report, Butler said the review was to examine whether the arrangements the former government made would continue to be “fit for purpose”. He indicated those arrangements would continue through 2023 and that the new government would ensure advice structures were made more flexible.

The fuller version of the report shows Halton warned against thinking the Covid-19 crisis was over and urged the government not to repeat its predecessor’s mistakes by failing to anticipate the possible arrival of new variants.

She said the government should order upgraded vaccines accordingly and expand eligibility for vaccines and treatments. At the time, a spokesperson for Butler indicated he expected to receive advice from the group of external medical experts known as the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI), relating to accessing fifth Covid-19 vaccinations soon.

The less redacted version of Halton’s report was provided to The Saturday Paper on Tuesday evening this week. On Wednesday morning, Butler announced that Australians were now eligible for a fifth shot, provided they had not had either a Covid vaccine or the virus itself in the previous six months. Those doses will be available from February 20.

What the pandemic has taught us is the need to have systems and processes in place so we can respond very quickly. That means working with drug developers, drug manufacturers and suppliers, and supply chains, to ensure that Australia is a preferred partner and customer.
Butler also revealed that 10 million doses of a new Omicron-variant-specific Pfizer vaccine had been purchased and would be available in Australia from March.

The minister suggested the duration of the current wave had surprised the government.

“There’s no doubt that this wave has endured for longer than was expected at its beginning, longer than the advice that was received by governments, particularly based on more recent waves, than had happened in parts of South-East Asia,” he said. “It was not short or sharp, it lingered for longer. And it had a very significant impact on the community, our health system, and many individuals, tragically resulting in the loss of many lives.”

Butler said it was important to understand how profoundly the pandemic has impacted the community.

“And it is my intention to make sure that we learn the lessons of the past few months, and constantly make sure that the response that all governments, including the Commonwealth, put in place to deal with what inevitably will be the next wave of Covid some time over the course of 2023 is aligned with the best understanding and the best evidence,” he said, adding that the chief medical officer, Paul Kelly, would provide him with advice on lessons learnt.

Kelly said ATAGI had changed its advice from recommending a gap of three months between infection or vaccination and a booster shot, to six months, which he said was mostly about “simplicity of message”.

He urged people to get booster shots to protect themselves and the wider community.

“Vaccine does help,” Kelly said. “It does work. It does protect people, particularly those in that severe, severe end of vulnerability.”

In her report – completed a month before the latest surge began – Jane Halton warned that the situation could worsen again significantly.

“A catastrophic variant which renders some or all existing vaccines completely or partially ineffective cannot be ruled out,” she wrote. “The trajectory of the pandemic for at least the next 12 months is uncertain.”

This week, Halton, now global head of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, expanded on her findings.

“We hope that there will not be a catastrophic variant and we’re not necessarily expecting one,” she told The Saturday Paper. “But what the pandemic has taught us is the need to have systems and processes in place so we can respond very quickly. That means working with drug developers, drug manufacturers and suppliers, and supply chains, to ensure that Australia is a preferred partner and customer, so that Australians get timely access.”

She declined to comment on the government’s decision to withhold so much of her report initially.

Halton’s previously hidden findings included that 26.84 million doses of vaccines have been wasted in Australia – 8.33 million doses of adult Pfizer shots, 6.8 million AstraZeneca, 5.08 million Novavax, 5.04 million of Moderna for those aged over six years, and 1.59 million of Pfizer for children aged five to 11. That equates to a current wastage rate of 16.8 per cent.

Butler’s spokesperson told The Saturday Paper that, as of this week, the wastage rate has risen to 18.2 per cent, which the government says is within the World Health Organization’s acceptable levels. Halton’s report noted that Australia has donated other excess stock, where possible, to regional neighbours. The government says it has also donated 52.1 million doses to Indo-Pacific countries plus another 16.8 million doses through the COVAX facility that supports immunisation in the developing world.

Asked if the wastage rate could have been reduced had things been done differently, Halton focused on the future.

“There are opportunities going forward to streamline procurement and delivery which would make a difference to wastage,” she said.

The report found that as demand for third and fourth shots fell – only one in three people aged 50-64 have had a fourth dose – the emphasis had shifted from administering every available vaccine to ensuring that every opportunity to vaccinate someone was taken.

That meant opening multidose vials to vaccinate single individuals who asked to be immunised, rather than waiting until there were enough to use the lot. This led to inevitable wastage.

Halton found that various advisory bodies’ overlapping roles and sometimes contradictory recommendations had created confusion and served as a barrier to Australians accessing the vaccines and treatments they needed.

She suggested that such barriers, including poor communication with the public and the medical profession, needed to be addressed to encourage a renewed uptake of vaccines. Butler this week said that a new communication campaign would begin in the first half of the year.

Halton warned of “the relative likelihood and severity of possible scenarios” involving new variants and said that, given the time line for securing more vaccines, “it is prudent to prepare for medium severity demand in 2023”.

She wrote, “The Commonwealth should ensure it maintains the capacity to scale-up to meet the demand expected of an emergency scenario to limit deaths and hospitalisations in the event of a severe new variant.”

Halton queried the influence of ATAGI more than once in the sections of her report that were previously redacted, suggesting its focus had been too linear and its advice accepted too uncritically. She said this allowed the advice to be perceived as government decisions.

“Understanding about eligibility, safety, and access has been hampered by an absence of clear communication,” she wrote. “Constant changes to ‘the rules’ have been difficult to understand and was reported as a barrier to access by consumers. Clinicians have reported confusion and patient difficulty in exercising choice. For example, the ATAGI ‘guidance’ has led to restricted access to Novavax as a booster, resulting in several patients reporting to the review that they have been refused access to this vaccine as a booster as ‘you don’t qualify’.”

The report said communication to both patients and doctors about “actual eligibility” should be “both clear and permissive”.

“At times, the ATAGI guidance and published statements have served as a gatekeeper to the use and uptake of vaccines, with advice treated as de facto decisions about eligibility,” she wrote.

“In the medium-term, it will be important to ensure that advice to assist decision-makers is integrated, does not overlap or duplicate existing statutory roles, and understands the roles of decision-makers.”

The decision-maker was the executive government. The integration role “should be undertaken by the Department”.

In comments to The Saturday Paper, Halton said: “With all this experience, making sure that your advisory structures and bodies are fit for purpose, able to allow rapid and well-founded advice to help ministers – who are ultimately the decision-makers – make the best decisions in the interest of the Australian population is fundamental to our health security.”

The government has indicated it will respond formally to Halton’s report imminently but had not done so at time of press.

The minister’s spokesperson declined to provide direct answers to questions about whether the government had made changes in response to Halton’s findings and instead repeated what they had said earlier in the week. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2023/02/11/the-rise-a...

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That’s about 800 million $ down the drain but we will never really know because the deals were secret . Scumo might have got a buy 2 doses get 1 free deal , he was a master of the art of the deal , just look at the subs fiasco.

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southernraw Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 8:11pm

Wow. What a waste. I have an idea.
Why don't they inject the surplus into rapists, paedophiles, meth dealers, murderers, wife and women bashers, shady politicians that give themselves different portfolios, road cyclists, and the commenters on SN that pushed and pushed against those questioning the jab.
Why waste this highly effective poison?? Surely we can still get our bang for our buck.

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That’s about 800 million $ down the drain but we will never really know because the deals were secret . Scumo might have got a buy 2 doses get 1 free deal , he was a master of the art of the deal , just look at the subs fiasco.

Yet they still keep buying more clot shots for roadkill and stok to whack into their veins.

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555ZZZ Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 8:22pm

Thanks to supafreak for the information on the report.
So , Australian taxpayers have paid for approx 95 million doses that have either been binned or given away. Very lucrative for big pharma and others.
Funny how the report fails to mention the significant numbers of vaccine injured , and the growing awareness amongst the public that the risks of vaccine injury for many people are actually greater than the risks of covid 19.
The govt, spent two months pushing dose number four , and apparently could only give away around 5.5 million doses.
Now they have 14 million of dose number five available .
Given the falling take up rate due to increased awareness of serious side effects including myocarditis , pericarditis and pulmonary embolisms , I expect most of the 14 m doses will end up binned or given away .
''contradictory health advice to government is undermining confidence in vaccines''.
Yes , the truth will always come out eventually.
Having government mandate vaccines for employment , should never be allowed to happen again.
The government should abandon it's hysterical responses to what has proven to be a very mild virus , which has a case fatality rate of less than 0.17% .
Financial dealings between govt reps and big pharma need to be fully exposed , so we can see why the govt pushed covid fear and vaccination with an experimental technology to such great heights.
Never again should the entire population be coerced to be injected through threats of lockdowns and job losses .
The vax never stopped infection , never stopped transmission , and so telling healthy Australians to get a vax they don't need to protect others , was shameful and false.
We need to get back to the tried and proven technique , protect the vulnerable and treat the sick ,
not ''protect everyone and treat no one.''

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That’s about 800 million $ down the drain but we will never really know because the deals were secret . Scumo might have got a buy 2 doses get 1 free deal , he was a master of the art of the deal , just look at the subs fiasco.

Yet they still keep buying more clot shots for roadkill and stok to whack into their veins.

It’s going to be interesting to see the uptake , I fully understand the elderly or immune compromised getting a 5th jab that is supposedly omicron strain targeted booster , even if it is only good for 8-10 weeks . The average joe blow I’m betting won’t be touching it . More money down the drain , not sure if we’re paying $30 a dose or $130 ……edit …..what a great closing statement from 555ZZZ ” We need to get back to the tried and proven technique , protect the vulnerable and treat the sick ,
not ''protect everyone and treat no one.'' hear hear

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southernraw Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 8:29pm

Don't forget the Moderna factory the government has invested in for 10 years for 100million doses per year.
That's alot of product to push, even for the best of snakeoil salesmen.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/albanese-lauds-monash-modern...

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southernraw Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 11:29pm

Just to be clear.
That's 1000 million.
or
1 billion
For a population of 25 million or so
Over 10 years.
100 million shots per year for a population of 25 million
Do the maths
That's minimum 4 shots for every single person per year....except it's not, we all know that...unless its forced. Enter mandates. Not the hairy kind.
Start practicng your DRSABC folks, especially the C. I think we're all gonna need it. And get to know where your local defibrillators are. We're in this together.

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Yep, exactly Southernraw. Something the kooks here fail to understand is that their 100% compliance on forced jab after jab have now set the tone for future jabs.

They blindly trusted "science" and "experts" that fronted the live feeds everyday.

Now the lies are clear, they are still defending them.

Now they are no longer getting jabbed, they are still defending them.

My stance has never changed during Covid, The kooks like roadkill, AndyM, Stok now are not getting jabbed as they have seen it was bullshit, yet they still defend them.

It's a toxic abusive relationship. Just like the wife that keeps defending her husband that bashes her.

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Yep, exactly Southernraw. Something the kooks here fail to understand is that their 100% compliance on forced jab after jab have now set the tone for future jabs.

They blindly trusted "science" and "experts" that fronted the live feeds everyday.

Now the lies are clear, they are still defending them.

Now they are no longer getting jabbed, they are still defending them.

My stance has never changed during Covid, The kooks like roadkill, AndyM, Stok now are not getting jabbed as they have seen it was bullshit, yet they still defend them.

It's a toxic abusive relationship. Just like the wife that keeps defending her husband that bashes her.

Yeah you have to wonder their mentality, I would be blowing up if I got jabbed for nothing, not defending them, guess it's true some people just won't admit they were/are wrong lol
Then they are probably the same people that fill their bodies with all sorts of crap and expect the Dr's/Science to fix them when it all goes wrong.

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Stok Sunday, 12 Feb 2023 at 2:38pm

I'll give you clowns one thing, you have persistence - and you've now gathered a little gang of like minded trolls. Unfortunately, persistence, or group think, is no indication that your beliefs are anywhere near correct.

Just keep posting MSN clickbait articles, and instagram posts from the usual cooked-fluencers. Nothing will change. There's no great lie being uncovered, and you certainly were not 'in' on the truth before anyone else. All that's happening is your little online community of conspiracy pals are losing relevance, which explains the greater intensity of posts recently.

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southernraw Sunday, 12 Feb 2023 at 3:14pm

Well said Burleigh and Friar Tuck.
If agreeig with that and questioning a 100million jab a year for 10 years policy puts me in a conspiratorial gang, then so be it.
Losing relevance? On a little old swellnet forum. The above poster needs to get out a little more!!

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Ok Gents ~ Interval ~

https://youtube.com/shorts/RNMDVFhuers?feature=share

That’s toady and Stok telling you to trust the science

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Womb transplants for transgender women will soon be possible, doctors say https://nationalpost.com/health/womb-transplants-transgender-women

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I'll give you clowns one thing, you have persistence - and you've now gathered a little gang of like minded trolls. Unfortunately, persistence, or group think, is no indication that your beliefs are anywhere near correct.

Just keep posting MSN clickbait articles, and instagram posts from the usual cooked-fluencers. Nothing will change. There's no great lie being uncovered, and you certainly were not 'in' on the truth before anyone else. All that's happening is your little online community of conspiracy pals are losing relevance, which explains the greater intensity of posts recently.

Sok lol how do live with yourself

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Stok wrote:

I'll give you clowns one thing, you have persistence - and you've now gathered a little gang of like minded trolls. Unfortunately, persistence, or group think, is no indication that your beliefs are anywhere near correct.

Just keep posting MSN clickbait articles, and instagram posts from the usual cooked-fluencers. Nothing will change. There's no great lie being uncovered, and you certainly were not 'in' on the truth before anyone else. All that's happening is your little online community of conspiracy pals are losing relevance, which explains the greater intensity of posts recently.

The evidence was always right in front of your eyes from real experts. Unfortunately these experts were silenced. Have you seen the twitter files?

Stok, you chose to believe Dan Andrews over these real experts. Fucking Dan Andrews yelling down the TV screens to get jabbed to save the community. One of the many lies told that you and toady ate up and abused anyone that questioned it.

I still laugh about the time you told everyone on swellnet that you're more educated than us. This just goes to prove a degree doesnt make you intelligent. Yours made you a sheep

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Educated? Sok must of got his degree from a cornflakes packet lol.

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chris primod Udo? Really? Your better than that mate. Anti fax
As for this thread kicking on under yet another name... well done burls, invented a couple of new SN characters to agree with judging by the content and spelling as everyone else has gotten on with life? Still not getting tired of patting yourself on your back and pissing in your own pocket it either would seem?
Meanwhile life goes on outside of burls mums basement.
Move on

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Primod posted for benefit of Surfing Conspirators.....
Project Veritas / James OKeefe ended up looking like Fools eh..but did make Millions from there Vids..
He He..

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Supafreak Monday, 13 Feb 2023 at 12:13pm

@udo , looks like George Webb and James O’keffe have teamed up .

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George offered OKeefe heaps of info early on....
https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/okeefe-v-webb-sensational-v-real

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Supafreak Monday, 13 Feb 2023 at 12:33pm

A few days ago George Webb was saying the PV video was more than a year old , is he still running with that ? I guess one day the full story will come out . Pfizer hasn’t really helped themselves much in this fiasco.

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Scroll Down ......The Full Nutter....
Fkn Hell the Elderly beating is Disgusting and Agree with him there..
https://mobile.twitter.com/realstewpeters

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sypkan Monday, 13 Feb 2023 at 4:16pm

wow!

the gloves are really coming off now

as is the cloak of secrecy...

The Pain of Listening To Twitter Censorship TestimonyNasty, Ill-Dressed Technocrats, I Want My Life Back

Dr Naomi Wolf

https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/the-pain-of-listening-to-twitter

naomi wolf no less...

who, I'm sure is a right wing nutjob qanon conspiracy theory peddling nutter

or something like that...

apparently

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"...There is former Twitter counsel, former “head of legal, policy and trust” at Twitter, Ms Vijaya Gadde, with her slightly more polished look and her sapphire-colored jacket; a package that proves however only that pure evil can be as well dressed and coiffed as not. There Ms. Gadde is, prevaricating when Rep Nancy Mace (R-SC) asks her directly if Twitter ever censored Americans pursuant to demands from the Government. After Ms. Gadde’s mumbled gibberish in response, haplessly phrased in the passive voice, Rep Mace thanked Ms Gadde for admitting that Twitter had become a “subsidiary” of the FBI in illegally violating the First Amendment rights of Americans.

It is so painful for me to see these faces. I have a very intimate relationship to these people.

They tried to destroy me, and did a fair job of it, by some measures.

These are the people — “my”people, paradoxically; people educated like me, people who shared my political views until 2020; these are people who vacationed where I used to vacation, who hang out with people I know — who were the agents behind full- on Stalinist-type persecution of innocent Americans; of me; these are the people who ruined my life, or sought to do so, and destroyed my career, or sought to do so. These emotionally ugly, these nasty, self-satisfied folks, so sure that they are right, so very, very wrong; are here at last; right here on C-Span.

They persecuted not just me but Dr Martin Kulldorff; Dr Jay Bhattacharya; Dr Paul Alexander; Dr Peter McCullough. So many others. They scrubbed and manipulated the discourse of a platform that has no right to be any more censorious than a telecom company, because they were willing to collude illegally with the government to decide what can be said in America. The messaging from the FBI via “the super-secret James Bond tele-portal”, as Rep Jim Jordan so brilliantly and rightly put it, reached into the voices of Americans and strangled Americans’ rights; but Twitter and the company’s political friends went further than mere silencing. These smarmy people ultimately hurt, and may have helped to injure and kill, many thousands.

These are the people who decided to remove the accurate tweet of mine about menstrual symptoms subsequent to MRNA vaccines, that could have saved millions of women from the current agony and infertility that they now endure..."

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sypkan Monday, 13 Feb 2023 at 4:26pm

"..For the two years subsequent to my deplatforming, news outlets — including those where I used to be a columnist, such as The Guardian and the Sunday Times of London — did not need to claim, let alone prove, that I was actually wrong in any concrete way; all they had to do now — and they did this repeatedly, clearly, as we see now, at the behest of the government involved - was to repeat the phrase replicated around the world, and embedded into posterity via my Wikipedia bio:

“Naomi Wolf was banned from Twitter for misinformation.”

“Misinformation” is never in quotes; the accurate caveat — “what Twitter called “misinformation”’ — is never added, in spite of this being the journalistically ethical and correct phrasing. This damning but really meaningless summary, then, is to what 35 years of labor, a status as a feminist leader, two degrees, eight bestsellers, thousands of footnotes, and the publication of essays in every major news site in North America, as well as most of Western Europe — got reduced.

It is incredible to me, as someone who was raised in an American meritocracy, and who has until very recently believed in American meritocracy, that a group of nonentities in Twitter, in collusion with nonentities at CDC (hi there, Carol Crawford), the White House and the US Dept. of the Census — were able thus so simply, and at such immediate, nuclear scale, to destroy the reputation of someone identified since 1990 as a major American voice.

So: this can happen to any American voice.

These ill-dressed, ill-spoken, banal careerist ciphers, cost me so much.

I re-trained for almost a decade, in the middle of my life, to teach. It is all I had ever really wanted to do with my life. Now I will never be able to be the only thing I ever wanted to be — a Professor of English Literature at a university..."

'cancel culture isn't real...'

'...it's a right wing conspiracy theory'

they said

errrrrrrrrr.... ok

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sypkan Monday, 13 Feb 2023 at 4:33pm

"...I cannot believe that “my own”people, my former tribe on the elite left, are joining forces with the government to violate the First Amendment rights of all Americans and then, worse still, to justify having done so. I can’t believe that Democrat after Democrat, liberal after liberal, is on C-Span singing the praises of censorship and inventing imaginary roles for government officials and social media platforms to keep Americans “safe” from the “threats“ of discourse and ideas. We used to be the side of Howl and Lady Chatterley’s Lover; of The Well of Loneliness. Heck, of the Free Speech Movement! What happened to us?

I can’t believe that people I thought were hostile to America’s interests — in this case, the Republicans demanding answers from the hacks and flunkies of Big Tech — are the allies in this hearing’s case at least, of truth and the Constitution and freedom of speech..."

I can't believe it either...

I've been cannot believe-ing for some time...

but these clowns just keep doubling down

keep going harder and harder