The Necessity of Reparation for Historic Injustices

AndyM wrote:

You got a context for that alleged statement sameaswas?

Only a couple of months ago she said this -

"It would be tragic if the referendum were voted down because of the relentless scare campaign from people."

andym i am willing to sign a stat dec to back up on my statement and if any of voice "zealots" can ask prof marcia langton i would be gratefull, my it computer know how is basic.

i truly heard it, she later on in the game allso said "no one will be able to look her in the eye if they vote no" and later on "ppl will hang their heads in shame at airports"...not the exact statement but "look her in the eye" and "hang their heads etc" is true.

last night on the drum a pro voice academia said how the night before he had a discussion with his young nephew and he wanted to go out and knock some sense into "no" ppl, he talked him out of it, all the aggro is from the "yes" camp.

gsco wrote:

I hope it gets up, I support it and will vote for it, and I hope adam12 is proven wrong.

But I agree with adam12 that, in my view, it's a poorly timed and directed waste of time, money and energy relative to, and is large scale (I'd say intentional) distraction away from, the major issues Australia is currently facing. Now is not the time and place for it.

It's just nowhere near the top of Australia's list of current priorities, particularly when I walk down the beach before sunrise each morning to check the surf and see homeless people camping in tents in the sand dunes along Kawana, who are packing up and heading off for the day before the sun comes up.

thankyou gsco you have restored my hope that something good comes out of this, at least wake us up to the narcissitic plutocrats in charge, a curse on both partys.

and please everybody stop the hate it's what they want.

gsco wrote:

I hope it gets up, I support it and will vote for it, and I hope adam12 is proven wrong.

But I agree with adam12 that, in my view, it's a poorly timed and directed waste of time, money and resources relative to, and is large scale (I'd say intentional) distraction away from, the major issues Australia is currently facing. Now is not the time and place for it.

It's just nowhere near the top of Australia's list of current priorities, particularly when I walk down the beach before sunrise each morning to check the surf and see homeless people camping in tents in the sand dunes along Kawana, who are packing up and heading off for the day before the sun comes up.

Agree there are other issues, but that does not mean that cannot be addressed as well. Is that happening? Maybe not, but these problems have not just arisen in the last year, but I would argue were sown in the Howard years, maybe even before, but Howard sped the process up. And these problems will still need attention long after Voice referendum is done.
Media are loving the division and playing to it with Dutton et al doing everything they can to wreck civil debate. It is dirty politics LNP style 101, same shit as highlighted by earlier vid re Mabo.
Blaming Albo is a bit of a stretch.
Sure have a go at him re Aukus, HECS indexation, and not doing enough for people struggling etc, but blaming him for Voice division is a nonsense in my view.
If it fails the blame is squarely with media and LNP.

andy-mac "Blaming Albo is a bit of a stretch."
The Voice process was actually started by the LNP under Abbott in 2015, it was their initiative to begin with, if Albo had played this smarter he could have brought them into the tent on that basis, allowed them to take the credit, and avoided all the shit that has been dragging on for a year now and has the rest of this year to run. It was his decision to politicise it and adopt it as his own. He should have known what a divisive debate would create and the risk that the whole thing falls over once the forces of the right align against it. He wants to be the hero.
I still believe/hope it will succeed, just very disappointed it has to be won ugly and expose the racist underbelly still prevalent in Australia. I thought Albanese was smarter than that.

adam12 wrote:

andy-mac "Blaming Albo is a bit of a stretch."
The Voice process was actually started by the LNP under Abbott in 2015, it was their initiative to begin with, if Albo had played this smarter he could have brought them into the tent on that basis, allowed them to take the credit, and avoided all the shit that has been dragging on for a year now and has the rest of this year to run. It was his decision to politicise it and adopt it as his own. He should have known what a divisive debate would create and the risk that the whole thing falls over once the forces of the right align against it. He wants to be the hero.
I still believe/hope it will succeed, just very disappointed it has to be won ugly and expose the racist underbelly still prevalent in Australia. I thought Albanese was smarter than that.

Maybe you are right, but I cannot see how anyway Albo and Labor could have framed it anyway where the Libs with Dutton and the Nationals would have come on board.
They LNP were the main ones playing politics in my view, even upsetting some of their own members.
Nats, well no way they would be pro Yes...

Wilhelm Scream wrote:

"In short, the progressive woke mind virus movement is trying to eradicate all of the central pillars of our civilisation and heritage. It is the real scourge and sickness of our times."

Discuss...

What's that even mean?
haha

first define 'our times', 'civilisation', who's heritage, 'pillar' and what such pillars are 'central' to. And PWMVM ; )

try starting with reading:
- https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-penguin-history-of-europe-j-m-roberts/b...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe:_A_History
- https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/235676
- https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1252287.The_Triumph_of_the_West
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People%27s_History_of_the_United_States
- https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/555925
- https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/657623
among others

Goethe: "he who cannot draw on three thousand years is living from hand to mouth".

Everything happening around us right now on this planet is a clear, simple and obvious continuation of the last 3,000 years of history.

Culture ey.....
'Culture is the collectivised consensus of what sort of neurotic behaviours are acceptable.'
Terrence McKenna.

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/the-poison-in-australias-bloodstream/

Great article Supa.
Unfortunately, the people out there in the wider Australian community who could really benefit from reading it will be the ones who never do.

southernraw wrote:

Great article Supa.
Unfortunately, the people out there in the wider Australian community who could really benefit from reading it will be the ones who never do.

i read it, another angry "yesser" makeing assumptions about boomers and the confused.
even admits he does'nt understand it fully.

allso read the piece in the margin about is albo relevant (sic) where the author lambasted albo for $270mill to footy oval....read that one.
can u see the irony and hypocracy of the voice where $320+$mill is given to them for propaganda and no critique of it, while the country is in a houseing crisis?

southernraw wrote:

Great article Supa.
Unfortunately, the people out there in the wider Australian community who could really benefit from reading it will be the ones who never do.

Good article...

I got a few paragraphs in, same backwards thinking. looking cliche divisive crap that does nobody any good.

BTW. Surprised nobody has mention the AFL indigenous saga.

Really hard to know the truth, very much he says she says.

But id be putting my money on there being some truth in it all but not exactly as presented by those making the allegations .

I doubt they were treated differently based purely on racial grounds, but im betting the influence/expectations/pressure/interference on some players and families of AFL players by clubs is much greater than they let on. (especially seeing what is at stake big money and premierships and that some players can be really important cogs in a team)

For instance if a club has a player who has a partner that they know or fear has a negative influence on the player especially one of value they will go to lengths they maybe shouldn't to curb that influence, this effect however might affect indigenous player more in that some indigenous players are from lower social economic backgrounds, but not racial based as such.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-s-race-to-the-bottom-d...
Peter Hartcher nails it.
(if like me you don't subscribe to the Age or SMH, here's the hack to read it. Let the page download, hit refresh then hit stop straight away before the subscriber block appears and the text should appear)
He canvasses a number of points I have tried to explain in this thread, firstly in relation to the No case argument that the Voice introduces change based on race.

"Said the opposition leader: “The Voice, as proposed by the prime minister, promotes difference. And it’s, sadly, a symptom of the madness of identity politics which has infected the 21st century. The Voice will re-racialise our nation. At a time when we need to unite the country, this prime minister’s proposal will permanently divide us by race.
This seems superficially plausible. The Voice referendum would amend the Constitution to add that “the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples”. Isn’t that a clear distinction based on race?

It’s not. In fact, it is false and misleading for two main reasons. Albanese this week called it the “great lie” of the No case.

First, the Australian Constitution and whole corpus of Australian law already make distinctions that apply to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. In the Constitution as it exists, section 51, clause 26 says the parliament shall have power to make laws with respect to “the people of any race for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws”. This is the so-called race power.

And a range of laws already applies only to Indigenous Australians, including the native title laws governing land use. These laws, which have emerged in the 31 years since the High Court’s Mabo verdict, actually demonstrate how traditional Aboriginal custom and tradition can co-exist successfully with colonial-era land title.
Second, it’s a misnomer to say the Voice would make a distinction based on race. It’s not about race, but indigeneity. This seems a subtle difference; in fact, it’s profound. It’s not a matter of what colour your skin may be but a matter of who is indigenous to a particular place."

He also points out that it was a Liberal PM, Harold Holt, who began the dismantling of the White Australia policy and oversaw the 1967 referendum, which is a legacy that Albanese could have added to the fact it was a Liberal PM, Tony Abbott, who started the process of this current referendum to create a bipartisan legacy from the outset and acknowledge the credit deserved by the LNP for these changes. This could have brought Dutton onboard at the beginning instead of alienating him, trying to give the ALP all the credit for the Voice, and giving Dutton no option except to oppose it. This is why Dutton keeps calling it "the PM's voice" and "the Canberra Voice". Hartcher asks "So why not declare joint ownership of this next step and support the Voice? Why not share in the national feelgood vibe and claim joint Liberal responsibility for another proud moment?" The answer is that the LNP was never given the chance, Albo wanted all the credit, which is why I blame him for the divisive nature of the current debate and will blame him if the referendum fails. It didn't have to be this way, he could have found consensus from the LNP before embarking on the change because they owned it more than Labor did. I believe Dutton would have been willing to agree if he was included and the credit due to the LNP acknowledged from the beginning. I believe the vast majority of LNP members want this change to occur. It was a political decision by Albanese not to include and give credit to the LNP that has brought the politics of division to the Voice. As I argued the other day here, he should have been smarter and not played the hero. It is causing pain and division that could have been avoided.

Tend to disagree on that above.
Liberal party have presented more often than not as divisive and using fear mongering when it comes to indigenous affairs, however my memory doesn't go back as far as Holt!
Wasnt' Abbott made Indigenous liasons officer? fark me?

southernraw wrote:

Wasnt' Abbott made Indigenous liasons officer? fark me?

You can always find faults in politician's especially X Pm's around any issue, but to be fair to Abbott most politician's or prime ministers spend zero to very little time in indigenous communities especially remote, if they do its basically a fly in fly out trip more just to tick a box and get media photos, our current PM's trip to Alice spring's for instance when a major issue was only 3 hrs but then not long after was able to put aside 3 days at the tennis, which is absolutely mind blowing when you consider this is in a time running up to the referendum.

Abbott on the other hand even before being PM during and even after, most years would spend between one to two weeks a year in indigenous communities a bad year would be five days..

Yeah sure still it's not a heap of time but if you compared his overall time spent in indigenous communities to other city based politician's or PM's id expect he would have spent the most time of our former PM's and i doubt many other city politician's would have clocked up the hours he has in these communities.

adam12 wrote:

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-s-race-to-the-bottom-d...
Peter Hartcher nails it.
(if like me you don't subscribe to the Age or SMH, here's the hack to read it. Let the page download, hit refresh then hit stop straight away before the subscriber block appears and the text should appear)
He canvasses a number of points I have tried to explain in this thread, firstly in relation to the No case argument that the Voice introduces change based on race.

"Said the opposition leader: “The Voice, as proposed by the prime minister, promotes difference. And it’s, sadly, a symptom of the madness of identity politics which has infected the 21st century. The Voice will re-racialise our nation. At a time when we need to unite the country, this prime minister’s proposal will permanently divide us by race.
This seems superficially plausible. The Voice referendum would amend the Constitution to add that “the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples”. Isn’t that a clear distinction based on race?

It’s not. In fact, it is false and misleading for two main reasons. Albanese this week called it the “great lie” of the No case.

First, the Australian Constitution and whole corpus of Australian law already make distinctions that apply to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. In the Constitution as it exists, section 51, clause 26 says the parliament shall have power to make laws with respect to “the people of any race for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws”. This is the so-called race power.

And a range of laws already applies only to Indigenous Australians, including the native title laws governing land use. These laws, which have emerged in the 31 years since the High Court’s Mabo verdict, actually demonstrate how traditional Aboriginal custom and tradition can co-exist successfully with colonial-era land title.
Second, it’s a misnomer to say the Voice would make a distinction based on race. It’s not about race, but indigeneity. This seems a subtle difference; in fact, it’s profound. It’s not a matter of what colour your skin may be but a matter of who is indigenous to a particular place."

He also points out that it was a Liberal PM, Harold Holt, who began the dismantling of the White Australia policy and oversaw the 1967 referendum, which is a legacy that Albanese could have added to the fact it was a Liberal PM, Tony Abbott, who started the process of this current referendum to create a bipartisan legacy from the outset and acknowledge the credit deserved by the LNP for these changes. This could have brought Dutton onboard at the beginning instead of alienating him, trying to give the ALP all the credit for the Voice, and giving Dutton no option except to oppose it. This is why Dutton keeps calling it "the PM's voice" and "the Canberra Voice". Hartcher asks "So why not declare joint ownership of this next step and support the Voice? Why not share in the national feelgood vibe and claim joint Liberal responsibility for another proud moment?" The answer is that the LNP was never given the chance, Albo wanted all the credit, which is why I blame him for the divisive nature of the current debate and will blame him if the referendum fails. It didn't have to be this way, he could have found consensus from the LNP before embarking on the change because they owned it more than Labor did. I believe Dutton would have been willing to agree if he was included and the credit due to the LNP acknowledged from the beginning. I believe the vast majority of LNP members want this change to occur. It was a political decision by Albanese not to include and give credit to the LNP that has brought the politics of division to the Voice. As I argued the other day here, he should have been smarter and not played the hero. It is causing pain and division that could have been avoided.

I kind of have to disagree with you here but see your point.
Saying that though, it paints Dutton and the LNP in even a more unfavorable light demonstrating they are happy to go against what is right purely because they are not getting any political credit for it. At least some such as Lesser have spoken out, and any time Birmingham is interviewed he comes across extremely uncomfortable.
His use of words and outright lying is disgraceful, just continual dog whistling.
Article in The Saturday Paper makes some interesting points.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/media/2023/06/03/social-media-v...

What’s also mind blowing is JP doing absolutely fuck all when she was a councillor in Alice Springs and after declaring that she was there for the long haul did nothing for the people of Alice Springs and quickly got out when she saw a better money grab opportunity. Still hasn’t done fuck all except piss off most FNP and praise the murdoch family and auntie gina.

Supafreak wrote:

What’s also mind blowing is JP doing absolutely fuck all when she was a councillor in Alice Springs and after declaring that she was there for the long haul did nothing for the people of Alice Springs and quickly got out when she saw a better money grab opportunity. Still hasn’t done fuck all except piss off most FNP and praise the murdoch family and auntie gina.

Mate these random post dissing Jacinta price are obviously just aimed at razzing me up

If you are going to do this, at least try to make it half relevant and including some random recent Twitter post, dissing her.

The reality is you have close to zero knowledge of Jacinta or what she has achieved and much of what she has achieved is awareness of issue's and help bring a broader understanding to Australian's.

I mean seriously its not like councillors actually achieve that much anyway, they generally just keep the wheels turning and only have so much say or vote on things anyway.

We have been through this all before if she was in it purely for the money she would be following the money and jumping on the gravy train and following in footsteps of someone like Marcia langton who is said to have a worth of 5 to 7 million.

Anyway seriously the other week you didn't even know the difference between constitutional recognition and voice and thought you had some gotcha moment, because you learnt LNP had supported constitutional recognition in the past (but still didn't know they still do today even though it was a fairly big news story)

And your early post also clearly showed you had zero knowledge or understanding of the history of indgenous advisory bodies both federal and state.

Most of what you spruce is often just rehashed radome nobody twitter post and based on the knowledge you have shown, that pretty much the extent of your research, or maybe some random hate piece by Crikey or something.

Its all of is no surprise though as during Covid you made a fool of yourself banging on 24/7 about ivermectin being some miracle Covid drug, cause hey i read a twitter post that said so, so it must be true.

I still swear the only explanation is you have ivermectin shares or something?

But seriously dude can you try to mix it up a little and keep post relevant and half unique, i posted about Tony Abbott this morning, there is so many angles you could have dissed him around indigenous issues instead.

@indo if you want to read about people dissing JP join Twitter and have a read what many FNP have to say about her . I’m a bit tired of you always defending the likes of JP and the LNP , you never seem bothered by robodebt or what Angus , brother stewie or Scumo got up to , it’s like you believe that all politicians do it so that makes it ok . Many believe your hero little johnny to be the worst PM ever until scumo came along to challenge that position . https://www.ibtimes.com.au/imf-review-howard-administration-was-most-was... https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/hey-big-spender-howard-the-king-... Many believe the problems we face today in a wide variety of areas are due to your hero .

Avi, Joe, JP etc - @info aka the grifter’s fan boy. Haha

Hahaha I always know when you’re rattled indo , the ivermectin card comes out . It’s still being used in many countries like US & Japan indo and if you didn’t know the TGA have lifted their ban , they just don’t recommend it . Plenty of doctors around the world use it in a combination therapy and get great results.

👀 Dr. Pierre Kory Explains the ‘Playbook’ That’s Used to Create Fraudulent Ivermectin Studies

“Like everything else, there’s a playbook and it’s really the same things they do…All you have to look at is the design of an Ivermectin trial and a Paxlovid trial and you can see… pic.twitter.com/17KGanIFDI

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) May 28, 2023

Central Land Council leaders say Jacinta Nampijinpa Price ‘needs to stop pretending we are her people’ https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/20/central-land-coun... …….. The CLC’s 90 members, elected by their communities to sit on the council, represent around 24,000 Aboriginal people across 777,000sq km, and represent more than fifteen different language groups in central Australia. The delegates said that Price “neither speaks for them nor listens to them”……. “We have many good men and women who are trying hard to make our communities better places, who are desperate to be heard, and Senator Price’s divisive approach isn’t helping,” he said.

Back on topic then
"I’ve closely observed Indigenous issues for more than 50 years, and the history absolutely underscores the need for a Voice enshrined in the Constitution. Indigenous people have been trying for more than 200 years to be heard. The failure to listen to them has been at the heart of the failure of policy concerning them. In far too many cases, Indigenous voices that were allowed to speak to parliament and government were not respected by white bureaucrats and white politicians, many of whom had never visited an Indigenous community. When one government was voted out, the new government came in and the structures of Indigenous advisory groups were either changed or watered down. In the case of ATSIC with John Howard, it was abolished. It is why the Voice should be enshrined in the Constitution, so it becomes much harder to ignore."
https://www.theage.com.au/national/the-liberals-future-is-in-doubt-kerry...

Recounting Abbott’s ‘contributions to Indigenous Australians’ https://indigenousx.com.au/recounting-abbotts-contributions-to-indigenou... But hey wait a minute , big tony spent sometimes weeks visiting aboriginal communities, what a guy . Just shows it’s not how many hours or weeks you spend visiting communities , it’s what you end up doing that counts .

Tones also had Putin shaking in his boots threatening to shirtfront him, he also gave a member of the royal family a gong but it’s Niki Savva who best encapsulates the man. Niki says Abbott was so overwhelmed by the job he outsourced it to Peta Credlin.

More truth telling from indo “ We have been through this all before if she was in it purely for the money she would be following the money and jumping on the gravy train and following in footsteps of someone like Marcia langton who is said to have a worth of 5 to 7 million. “ ….not sure where indo came up with this number from, possibly his crystal ball that needs recalibrating, constantly. One thing for sure though, JP will never follow in the footsteps of Professor Marcia Langton . https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/5377-marcia-langton she might be a bit short of 5-7 million https://peopleai.com/fame/identities/marcia-langton

So she basically owns a house.

AndyM wrote:

So she basically owns a house.

Better to own a house than the house ….
https://m.

spoken by Jacinta Price sponsored by Murdoch/the IPA Canberra

GuySmiley wrote:

AndyM wrote:

So she basically owns a house.

Better to own a house than the house ….
https://m.

spoken by Jacinta Price sponsored by Murdoch/the IPA Canberra

Haha just flicked on clip at random spot, quote 'insidious damage of the left, especially in education.' blah blah blah....

Haha fark they all work of the same bs script ey....

Geez the bloke at the beginning holding up the applause sign to the audience was a bit slow , once the murdoch name was mentioned though he was straight on it , gotta keep the boss happy .

@6.15
She says she doesn't feel inferior to her oppressors and so she becomes just like them - Tony Abbott, Gina Rhinhart.

In the words of the Central Land Council's Deputy Chair - "Her people are the non-Aboriginal conservatives and the Canberra elite to which she wants to belong."

Out of interest, the Central Land Council's members are directly elected by Aboriginal communities across Central Australia, representing tens of thousands of people and more than 15 language groups.

JP with some of her own “ truth telling “ …..Opposition Indigenous Australians minister Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, who is opposed to a Voice to Parliament, posted the same photo and quote on her Twitter account with the caption, “Vincent Lingiari’s grandson thinks otherwise….#VoteNOAustralia”. https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/factlab-meta/man-wrongly-portrayed-as-grand... ………..No campaign accused of misrepresenting First Nations commentators in youth-targeted advertisements https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-02/fact-check-fair-australia-not-eno... There was a time JP referred to Scott Morrison as an elder of the community who deserved respect, pity SM didn’t feel the same respect towards Australians.

Double post

Background...
End April '22 Covid Wave falling > Natcab orchestrated Tests to ramp 17 May peak AEC Poll wave.
Can check Natcab timely in tune Test Orchestration here...just don't let the Experts catch on...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-ho...
Yes! As in Corrupted staged uniform [+] outcome to peak on Election Eve...(Largest ever Oz Vote Rort!)
Corrupting Oz largest Pre-Phone Poll to extort 200k votes for lowest ever Poll Day turnout.
Firstly..Yes! Pollies did choose which electorates to Target for Tests & swing Booths to open! How! Why!
AEC staff were rife with Covid & short of Volunteers to man isolated flooded Booths...

2022 Election recorded lowest ever compulsory voter turnout of under 89.82% / 96.8% Roll.
Massive 47.4% skipped their likely last ever Aussie Sausage Sizzle.
Oz Anti-Democratic System corruptly bolsters the Political Establishment.
ALP Governs with their poorest Vote Poll in a Century & lowest ever 32.58% Minority Mandate
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/25/qukk-j25.html

Questions were raised about AEC overspend & interference in Ramping selected Voice Roll / Booths!
After getting away with 2022 Mass Natcab / AEC Vote Extortion one would expect larger Vote Rigging.
It's not looking good for Democracy...not one Voter cared then & not one Voter will care again now!
Just sayin' only a completely neutral non voter could inform voter's of their own Mass Rorts...(So True!)

Back History...10 Aboriginal Swing Seats...(No voters choose to mention this either!)
The Voice is merely vessel to increase enrolment to locked in 10 seats & Power for 10 years more!

19 June 2021: West Arnhem Regional Council Mayor + Yalu Aboriginal Corp' Chair.
Lodge Formal Complaint (Voter Discrimination) to AHRC
(Walkabout have no Address to Vote > No Driver's Licence / Passport)
Motion backed by Maritime Union + United Workers Union.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/nt-men-lodge-discrimination-complain...

28 Oct 2021: [L] Intro next level Mission Impossible "Voter Integrity" [I.D]
https://antonygreen.com.au/government-introduces-law-requiring-voters-to...

Oct 2022 Budget AEC / Medicare Card / Citizenship Cert' Rort.

Right! All see that Yo Yo of UN / Medicare / Migrant Power Plays...nothing to do The Voice!
Locking in the Regional Power Base...by Voting Power...sure..by Voice or Not...it's happening.
Aboriginal enrolment is kicking in by defaulted Hype!

17 Feb 2023 : ALP revive Federal Direct Enrolment and Update Program.
https://www.aec.gov.au/media/2023/02-17.htm
Intro: Citizenship Cert' / Medicare Card [NUMBER] "Finger Paint Sign In" (#1 Easy do over!)

26 May 2023 : Mandatory AEC Letter (As in Conscription Letter)
Govt instruct AEC to mail out Letters to ALL Non Enrolled [ MEDICARE ] Recipients...
500,000-2m (Voter Base) > Aboriginals / NDIS / Record Youth-No Drivers Licence / Record Migrants.
Most of these groups drop as low as 70% enrollment...so Albo sees them as easy targets to sheeple.
These groups are the most easiest to manipulate as we / us don't know about any Reffo thingy...

Albo : "My Evil Plan...They're my Pawns for the taking!"

It's exploitation to force ill equipped to be bullied against their will in breach of best health advice.
Ask: Why is it more important to target least able as to 10% on roll that refuse to vote!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/one-in-10-say-they-re-unlikely-t...
eg: Qld Health orders removed tbb from Body Corp Chair / Secretary + "Any" Voting Obligations!
Doubt if ROBO AEC ticking Lettergram will Exempt Qld Health Orders for Mental People!

Us sick folk don't get to have a warm fuzzy Enrolment ritual...just the Rifle Butt in the back of yer head!
Ouch! Vote! Citizen...Said we just enrolled you & You just voted for us!

Vote 4 Mass RAT Rort...100% Zombie voters be fine with that shit...ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US.

How does His Master's Voice FDEU Rort work tbb...
Albo has powered up #1 Corrupt Mobsters AEC to hack Medicare for Auto 3rd Party Enrollment
https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/About_Electoral_Roll/direct.htm

1. ROBO AEC mail out yer Conscription Form...
2. Hapless Aussie victim gets scanned by AEC ROBOT (28 days) Before Letter Bomb explodes.
3. If Victim fails to respond or breathe after Albo's ROBO scan = [Auto Conscription] > The Voice Choir!
4. If AEC Diagnosis is faulty then AEC Letter Bomb is returned without traces of White Powder Please!

Will we see another AEC Covid Wave timing with Voice (Cough!) Referendum.
https://www.aec.gov.au/referendums/services.htm

22 May : AEC to Increase services for o/s VIP Voice Boxes
https://www.aec.gov.au/media/2023/05-22.htm

Notes : Read the Fine Print
AEC :
"We will write to you & let you know if we intend to (Add your Name and Address) to Electoral Roll..."
" External Data may include Address!" AEC auto update for You...(Cough!) After they Vote for You!
"You do not need to reply!"
Govt / AEC will exploit your Medicare Card with open Address for any Electorate / Election at any time!
"You'll never see or need to reply for you are the chosen one...Lucky You!"
" Previously, Voters were required to Print, Sign, & return Form for Enrolment. Now...entirely online!

Read below...(Exemptions)

* Are Outside the Electorate where you are enrolled to Vote...(Migrants)
* Are more than 8kms from a Polling Place...(Aboriginals)
* Are infirm, seriously ill or carer (NDIS)
* Silent Electors...(DV)

AEC are proud to Enrol You then Vote 4 You with yer Medicare Card & timeless Mobile Address!
Did I just do that Vote thing again...Thanx AEC.

Trust the Brainz Trust
https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/About_Electoral_Roll/files/23-1...

AEC : (Video) "Allow us to give you a Voice!"
Ya got 28 days to reply on why that shouldn't happen...Fark...Luv Oz Mandates!
Mandate to Vote for the Leashing of Anti Vaxers...all knew it would come down to a Hat Trick!

AEC Data Expert [factcheck]
AEC : "2012 ( Direct Enrollment) Voters rose from 90% > 97%!"
AEC : "Oz has some of the best mandated vote rigging conscription rates in the world!"
*2022 ( Direct Natcab RAT Rort ) Voters aborted AEC Scam & voting plummeted from 97% > 90%
So, not weird that 7% AEC Direct Enrollment never voted in 2022 + Already said to shove yer Reffo?

Expert Green Ant Bully : "Happy to Mandate a tear jerking Fairytale Ending!"
Gromz : "So the 10 year 7% [+] Direct Enrollment Scam Tested 7% [-] after 10 years...well durr!"
Anthony Green : "Bloody smart arse kid is making me seem redundant!"

So we know 7% will 'Directly' refuse to Vote in Reffo + 50-60% will Vote before the Fat Lady Sings!

Just saying...if Albo mandates Reffo Conscription...at the cost ill folk's freedom...That's a Black List!

So now ya know why Albo has to (Cough) enroll heaps of Medicare Migrants to Swing States.
Can Auto Update their Address for Next By-election after the Reffo...then the next & so on & so on!
They don't have to know nor be informed when their Numbers Come up...US election...just felt a glitch!
Silly Computa keeps mucking up Migrant addresses come each election time...Wot to do 'bout that!

2 biggest Mass AEC Vote Rorts of 100'000s & not one Voter or News Paper says a word...Sheeple!
Please no one ask why tbb refuses to ever Vote in Australia...coz tbb can't answer yer emails from jail.

AndyM wrote:

@6.15
She says she doesn't feel inferior to her oppressors and so she becomes just like them - Tony Abbott, Gina Rhinhart.

In the words of the Central Land Council's Deputy Chair - "Her people are the non-Aboriginal conservatives and the Canberra elite to which she wants to belong."

Out of interest, the Central Land Council's members are directly elected by Aboriginal communities across Central Australia, representing tens of thousands of people and more than 15 language groups.

You do realise the central land council is largely financially dependent upon mining royalties? Like a lot of land councils are. But yeah, Gina Rinehart…

Umm sure - it's great how Reinehart donates royalties out of the goodness of her heart :)

Anyway, the point is how Price doesn't represent Indigenous crew from the Northern Territory, this has been heard from the horse's mouth again and again.

waveman wrote:

AndyM wrote:

@6.15
She says she doesn't feel inferior to her oppressors and so she becomes just like them - Tony Abbott, Gina Rhinhart.

In the words of the Central Land Council's Deputy Chair - "Her people are the non-Aboriginal conservatives and the Canberra elite to which she wants to belong."

Out of interest, the Central Land Council's members are directly elected by Aboriginal communities across Central Australia, representing tens of thousands of people and more than 15 language groups.

You do realise the central land council is largely financially dependent upon mining royalties? Like a lot of land councils are. But yeah, Gina Rinehart…

A bit of context, those royalties are paid to individual aboriginal corporations for access to traditional lands for mining. Like a lease arrangement. The tone of your comment implied they’re on the teat of the mining companies. Quite the opposite.

waveman wrote:

AndyM wrote:

@6.15
She says she doesn't feel inferior to her oppressors and so she becomes just like them - Tony Abbott, Gina Rhinhart.

In the words of the Central Land Council's Deputy Chair - "Her people are the non-Aboriginal conservatives and the Canberra elite to which she wants to belong."

Out of interest, the Central Land Council's members are directly elected by Aboriginal communities across Central Australia, representing tens of thousands of people and more than 15 language groups.

You do realise the central land council is largely financially dependent upon mining royalties? Like a lot of land councils are. But yeah, Gina Rinehart…

A bit of context, those royalties are paid to individual aboriginal corporations for access to traditional lands for mining. Like a lease arrangement. The tone of your comment implied they’re on the teat of the mining companies. Quite the opposite.

And as far as the Western Australian Business Person of the year. It has obviously been quickly forgotten that during the construction of her flagship Roy Hill mine, with the help of lobbyist Malcolm Day sought to bring in 457 visa workers who would be cheaper and more compliant than qualified West Australians.
What a legend eh?

First, the Aboriginal Benefits Account (ABA) is a Special Account established under the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Act 1976 that benefits Aboriginal people living in the Northern Territory (NT).
The ABA receives monies from the Commonwealth based on the value of royalties generated from mining on Aboriginal land in the NT.

https://www.niaa.gov.au/indigenous-affairs/grants-and-funding/aboriginal...

And next, this is the same Gina who said “Africans want to work, and its workers are willing to work for less than two dollars a day”.
The globalised neo-liberal dream.

And of course she was so opposed to paying taxes that at one stage she went so far as to buy significant stakes in Ten and Fairfax.
She probably also bought into them with a view to spreading the word about the plight of Indigenous Australians I'd wager :)

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^^

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/as-australians-lose-jobs-gina-r...

hahahaha. This is all time Supa. Even looked like her.
I wonder if this is The Diamonds new pre-game motivational song. :-P

Supafreak wrote:

More truth telling from indo “ We have been through this all before if she was in it purely for the money she would be following the money and jumping on the gravy train and following in footsteps of someone like Marcia langton who is said to have a worth of 5 to 7 million. “ ….not sure where indo came up with this number from, possibly his crystal ball that needs recalibrating, constantly. One thing for sure though, JP will never follow in the footsteps of Professor Marcia Langton . https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/5377-marcia-langton she might be a bit short of 5-7 million https://peopleai.com/fame/identities/marcia-langton

Ha ha you do know we can all access google?.

Hence we can see you have just cherry picked the lowest net worth you can find

I read 5 to 7 million in some media article which seems like they have taken the average.

Google results from page one

1st result 5 million
https://allfamousbirthday.com/marcia-langton/

2nd result 12 million
https://networthpost.org/net-worth/marcia-langton-net-worth/

3rd result 5 million (and funny enough your favourite source for information)

Can Marcia Langton, author of the ULURU STATEMENT FROM THE HEART really possess a net worth of $5MILLION??? pic.twitter.com/nWtX8CNqRe

— Don (@Donsvess) April 6, 2023

4th result 1.5 million
https://www.wikilogy.com/biography/marcia-langton/

5th result 10 million
https://www.celebrityhow.com/networth/MarciaLangton-3289980

I didn’t go hunting indo for the lowest value I could find as you suggest but go ahead and believe what you will . You are definitely a strange lad in that you bag me for getting my information from Twitter and here you are posting information from Twitter . I understand you get a little butt hurt when people expose JP for what she is and trying to discredit Professor Langton in retaliation is a bit pathetic. I took the first link I came across and don’t know how exact it is , I did notice a disclaimer though . You must be pretty worked up indo to go searching searching searching to get your desired results. Discredit Professor Langton all you like , with your list of pinups that you follow it’s understandable. So indo can you do a bit more searching and find how she has accumulated $10 million from having her nose in the government feed bag ? Care to comment indo on the Twitter posts JP and mundine put up indo that are blatant lies that have been exposed ? Or maybe the FOI top secret government documents exposing Albo and the real plans the voice has ? Any comments indo ? Or just except these fairytales as JP “ truth telling “ ?

Yeah nice story, if you were going to double check what her net worth really was and googled it as you obviously have, even if for some reason your link was number one hit as yes results can vary, you still would see all the other amounts like you can below, and as you can see the only reason i included a twitter link is because it was in the results.

As for some idea ive gone to much effort???

It literally took me a few second's to do a google search?

Im not the one who is obsessed with dissing Jacinta and post random post not relevant to previous post dissing her, like i said the other day quite obviously just try to razz me up.

Anyway the indigenous industry is worth billions and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that the voice like many indigenous issues is about chasing money and we know Marcia has done very well out of the industry.