Australia - you're standing in it
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/06/bruce-lehrmann-co...
Could ABC use 'truth' defence if this went to court??
andy-mac wrote:Dutton.....
Interesting clip there andy - mac , albo and labor have achieved a fair bit in their first 6 months. The real test comes now sorting out the gas prices and possibly introducing a tax on super profits from mining just before the next election. If they can pull that off they will be extremely popular in my opinion but many will scream it will scare away foreign investment. I’ve said before if a company is going to make 10 billion a year profit and suddenly get taxed and only make 7 billion profit they are not going to bailout.
Supafreak wrote:andy-mac wrote:Dutton.....
Interesting clip there andy - mac , albo and labor have achieved a fair bit in their first 6 months. The real test comes now sorting out the gas prices and possibly introducing a tax on super profits from mining just before the next election. If they can pull that off they will be extremely popular in my opinion but many will scream it will scare away foreign investment. I’ve said before if a company is going to make 10 billion a year profit and suddenly get taxed and only make 7 billion profit they are not going to bailout.
Yep they (Labor) seem to be travelling pretty well. LNP pollies kind of look a bit pathetic bringing up and having a go at energy policy ( they had huge success over 9 years :/), and the $275 blah blah. Most of electorate not that stupid to take it seriously. Susan Ley just came across as a nasty piece of work today. If they can start to tax mining companies properly, they will be on a winner I reckon. Times and the situation has changed a lot since Rudd. Reckon concerted advertising campaign by Minerals Council could back fire quite badly for them, people struggling are not going to have too much sympathy for billionaires and foreign companies.
Australians were fooled once, don't think it would happen again.
Anyway that's my 2 cents ...
There’s some sick sick people involved in this “ church “https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/06/mother-of-man-rap... The mother of the man who was raped as a child by pentecostal preacher Frank Houston “tried to dissuade” her son from publicly revealing the “sordid mess”, a Sydney court has heard.
Another relative – a senior church pastor – told him he would be supported if he kept his complaint within the church but if he went to “the secular courts” he would be abandoned.
Supafreak wrote:There’s some sick sick people involved in this “ church “https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/06/mother-of-man-rap... The mother of the man who was raped as a child by pentecostal preacher Frank Houston “tried to dissuade” her son from publicly revealing the “sordid mess”, a Sydney court has heard.
Another relative – a senior church pastor – told him he would be supported if he kept his complaint within the church but if he went to “the secular courts” he would be abandoned.
Had a good chuckle watching an ABC report on this last night when the reporter said something about a church member asking the victim to keep silent as Houston would be judged by God but in reality is being judged by a proper court of law.
The liar from the shire is not too worried about robodebt , he’s got a more important speaking gig to attend . https://www.hudson.org/former-prime-minister-australia-scott-morrison-hu... https://www.theage.com.au/cbd/scomo-to-give-talk-to-murdoch-s-hudson-haw...
How do those gigs benefit the constituents of Cronulla?
Not from Cronulla, but did he ever do anything for his constituents?
Besides dodging the RC into Robo debt and speaking at the Hudson institute what’s our proclaimed international mastermind been up to ? This is plain scary . Warning : once you have seen this you can’t unsee it
Ok I may need an intervention 🤣 pic.twitter.com/qrW1L7xCes
— The Sage (@SarkySage) December 8, 2022
Haha, WTF.
You know to be honest he kind of scrubs up okay
Not too surprising here, but wow! This whole story has a while to run..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/08/bruce-lehrmann-tr...
Not too surprising here, but wow! This whole story has a while to run..Yep, interesting days....
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/08/bruce-lehrmann-ca...
AndyM wrote:You know to be honest he kind of scrubs up okay
I reckon Brucey Lehrmann would Rod it....
He'd be punching above his weight.
They’re a classy bunch over at sky https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/sky-s-chris-smith-stood-down-o... he’s got some history for this type of behavior, just blame it on the alcohol and drugs.
Tomorrow live @ 11am AEST Chief Robocop on the beat Liar From The Shire is up for a grilling. Should be interesting to see if he can avoid "It's not my job"
Today it was Marise"If I turn my mind to it, I can't recall" Payne
https://robodebt.royalcommission.gov.au/
May be half a point better than watching a wavepool comp.
Sweet. I’m tuning in.
udo wrote:Done...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-13/brittany-higgins-settles-compensa...
Well that was quick
Very!
A Royal Commission into Scott Morrison? He sold off the farm, in secret https://michaelwest.com.au/a-royal-commission-into-scott-morrison-he-sol...
Supafreak wrote:A Royal Commission into Scott Morrison? He sold off the farm, in secret https://michaelwest.com.au/a-royal-commission-into-scott-morrison-he-sol...
Just read that article, geez I am lost for words. Nothing could surprise me now re Scotty.
Will be interesting to see how Scotty goes at Royal Commission today. Reckon there will be a lot of 'i don't recall,' 'that was not my responsibility,' ' I wasn't informed,' 'i don't accept the premise of the question or assertion,' and ' I was doing it for Strayla and or God.'
How come Politicians can use “I don’t recall” as a excuse? Don’t think that works for common folk
Looks like things went as expected today , here’s a brief clip of Scotty in action, it resumes today at 2.30
At one point Morrison tried to deflect the question to a program that he knew wasn't even in existence at the time.
— Squizz (@SquizzSTK) December 14, 2022
The Commissioner had to keep pulling Morrison up for "wandering" away from the question, and then wondered whether he was even listening.#auspol #robodebtRC pic.twitter.com/fzQDjDtzlK
Supafreak wrote:Looks like things went as expected today , here’s a brief clip of Scotty in action, it resumes today at 2.30 https://twitter.com/squizzstk/status/1602853647184166912?s=46&t=OzB-XdNV...
I am watching now, feel like a trap is being laid....
Scotty cannot use his interpretation of events here ..
This is a good summary of what they are after- who removed the advice that this was illegal and the need to legislate the Robodept scheme, from submissions to the government and who influenced or was responsible for that removal- https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/12/10/how-bureauc...
From Guardian:
"12.35 AEDT
Albanese government will abolish the administrative appeals tribunal
The attorney general, Mark Dreyfus, has stepped up and he gets straight to the point:
I’m announcing the Albanese government will abolish the administrative appeals tribunal, the AAT, and replace it with an administrative review body that better serves the interest of the Australian community.
The AAT’s public standing has been irreversibly damaged as a result of the actions of the former government over nine years.
By appointing 85 former Liberal MPs, former Liberal staffers and other close Liberal associates without any merit-based selection process, including some individuals with no relevant experience or expertise, the former government fatally compromised the AAT, undermined its independence, and eroded the quality and efficiency of its decision-making.
This was a disgraceful exhibition of cronyism by the Liberal party.
Updated at 13.05 AEDT"
Dutton and co will be spinning.
Taking away the gravy train for ex LNP pollies.
Next should be the Fair Work Commission to get rid of the likes of Ms Mirabella, a very nasty piece of work appointed for life at $400k pa
https://amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/year-of-the-mate-at-least-13-for...
GuySmiley wrote:Next should be the Fair Work Commission to get rid of the likes of Ms Mirabella, a very nasty piece of work appointed for life at $400k pa
https://amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/year-of-the-mate-at-least-13-for...
Yep...
Scotty at his best..... Haha
https://m.
andy-mac wrote:Scotty at his best..... Haha
It was bizarre behaviour all round , from continuously taking his glasses on and off , sometimes reading with them on other times squinting with them off while moving the paper back and forth trying to focus. He’s used to speaking over the top of female reporters and screaming at others in parliament , the ex high court judge and KC had his measure and were actually pretty patient with him . He didn’t fool anyone and I can’t see him lasting much longer before he quits parliament . The sooner ICAC gets up and running the better.
Supafreak wrote:andy-mac wrote:Scotty at his best..... Haha
It was bizarre behaviour all round , from continuously taking his glasses on and off , sometimes reading with them on other times squinting with them off while moving the paper back and forth trying to focus. He’s used to speaking over the top of female reporters and screaming at others in parliament , the ex high court judge and KC had his measure and were actually pretty patient with him . He didn’t fool anyone and I can’t see him lasting much longer before he quits parliament . The sooner ICAC gets up and running the better.
I watched most of it live and he really was out of his depth and could not bullshit his way out of what he was responsible for. If only the media had held him and LNP to account earlier with Robodebt. It was well known it was having tragic circumstances but they continued with it with full knowledge it was causing people to kill themselves. Let that sink in, it was a program of deliberate cruelty disguised as protecting tax payers dollars from dole bludgers.
Be nice if those clowns that perpetuate the myth that suicide rates went up in Aus because of lockdowns were as vocal about the deaths directly related to robodebt.
Not as trendy.
Less social kudos.
Actually the situation of suicide rates during covid and/or due to lockdowns is more complicated than simple statements like “the suicide rate didn’t go up in Australia.”
I remember reading some studies that break down suicide rates into demographic groups, and they provide some interesting insight.
For example I remember reading that teen suicide rates went up, male suicide rates went up, and suicide rates in people who became unemployed also went up and they linked this to unemployment caused by lockdowns.
I think making sweeping simple statements in this regard is seriously disrespectful and dismissive of those who committed suicide during (and because of) covid, and luckily there’s actually educated and qualified people working and doing research in suicide prevention instead of ignorant internet forum simpletons (still) engaging in covid belief system confirmation bias and the (often politically motivated) covid information and ideology wars..
gsco wrote:For example I remember reading that teen suicide rates went up, male suicide rates went up, and suicide rates in people who became unemployed also went up and they linked this to unemployment caused by lockdowns.
Suicide for Australian males in 2020 was the lowest since 2016, but tell us more about what you "remember reading".
I don't recall the exact studies I read, but this Lancet article Reasons and trends in youth's suicide rates during the COVID-19 pandemic talks about youth suicide:
"suicide rates among youth increased during the pandemic relative to pre-pandemic levels, especially between August-November 2020...Though suicide levels returned closer to pre-pandemic levels by December 2020, they remained slightly elevated into 2021...We observed elevated suicide rates for all major reasons from summer to autumn 2020...Furthermore, rates of suicides attributed to mental illness remained higher than pre-pandemic levels into December 2020...
This Frontiers in Psychiatry article Patterns of Suicide in the Context of COVID-19: Evidence From Three Australian States mentions young males:
"The exception was an increase in the number of young males who died by suicide in the COVID-19 period."
Maybe that's the one I remembered..
And actually I also recall that the results differ across countries - can find plenty of research detailing increased suicide rates during covid in different countries for various demographics.
I think they all matter.
(Although in our new woke world it seems that privileged white middle-aged males no longer matter...)
gsco wrote:I don't recall the exact studies I read, but this Lancet article
Studies in Japan and Norway? Not relevant.
gsco wrote:This Frontiers in Psychiatry article Patterns of Suicide in the Context of COVID-19: Evidence From Three Australian States mentions young males:
"The exception was an increase in the number of young males who died by suicide in the COVID-19 period."
Maybe that's the one I remembered..
Yep, the only demographic that did rise, and obviously that's tragic. Unfortunately in a pandemic, job losses will happen, and mental health will be effected. Doesn't change the fact that an endless amount of foghorns have been making up lies about "suicide rates going through the roof cos lockdowns" since lockdowns became a thing. If you're gonna come in swingin' with shit like
gsco wrote:I think making sweeping simple statements in this regard is seriously disrespectful and dismissive of those who committed suicide during (and because of) covid, and luckily there’s actually educated and qualified people working and doing research in suicide prevention instead of ignorant internet forum simpletons (still) engaging in covid belief system confirmation bias and the (often politically motivated) covid information and ideology wars..
, you might wanna think twice about posting what you one eighth and/or wrongly "remember", and back off on calling people "ignorant internet forum simpletons (still) engaging in covid belief system confirmation bias and the (often politically motivated) covid information and ideology wars", because when you're wrong, don't you think that's a little disrespectful too?
gsco wrote:(Although in our new woke world it seems that privileged white middle-aged males no longer matter...)
LOL
Valid points.
Wasn’t actually necessarily aimed at you but more at the continued (seemingly largely politically motivated) covid wars in the conspiracy theory thread which degenerated into trolling and abusing.
Maybe I’m a bit naive and soft but I find it all very upsetting and sickening.
Then enter the Qld shooting situation which also seems to have been immediately politicised into an attack on the conservative right, tied in with the covid wars, and then relentlessly used as more fuel for trolling and personal attacks…
The politicisation and media click bait frenzying of these events - covid, Brittany Higgins case, Qld shooting, etc - is just relentless and is creating so much divide and polarisation in society which is being reflected in these forums.
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How is this scumbag not embarrassed? pic.twitter.com/VS6tZS4awh
— The Sage (@SarkySage) December 17, 2022
Tomorrow Scott Morrison will have a big announcement. 
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Hahaha, hit up Jordan Shanks!!
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VicLocal’s head would explode if he saw this from his least favourite grifter. Hilarious that this guy thinks that he’s a member of the press
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OPINION
Australia was always bullied by vested interests, until now https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-was-always-bullied-by-...
Supafreak wrote:OPINION
Australia was always bullied by vested interests, until now https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-was-always-bullied-by-...
Thanks for keeping your finger on the pulse supa. You seem to be collating the most relevant news daily. I’m giving you a hearty Hoot from the shoulder.
soggydog wrote:Supafreak wrote:OPINION
Australia was always bullied by vested interests, until now https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-was-always-bullied-by-...Thanks for keeping your finger on the pulse supa. You seem to be collating the most relevant news daily. I’m giving you a hearty Hoot from the shoulder.
It was a interesting opinion piece and its a shame that Rudd was beaten by $$$$ campaign when he wanted to change the way these profits were taxed . Missed opportunity for Australian’s future and it’s still not too late for reform but will it happen ? Bloody hope so but maybe wishful thinking.
Supafreak wrote:soggydog wrote:Supafreak wrote:OPINION
Australia was always bullied by vested interests, until now https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-was-always-bullied-by-...Thanks for keeping your finger on the pulse supa. You seem to be collating the most relevant news daily. I’m giving you a hearty Hoot from the shoulder.
It was a interesting opinion piece and its a shame that Rudd was beaten by $$$$ campaign when he wanted to change the way these profits were taxed . Missed opportunity for Australian’s future and it’s still not too late for reform but will it happen ? Bloody hope so but maybe wishful thinking.
I was thinking about this today, I think Rudd and Gillard had to tread lightly as at the time the LNP embraced the rhetoric from the lobby groups and amplified it. They where still seen by many as a viable government so dangerous in opposition.
Thus my thinking is maybe Scotty was one of the best things that could have happened to Australian politics. He has, and the shit fuckery is still being completely revealed, with the help of his team, Taylor, Porter, and Barnacle as well as quite a few others, Cash, Payne etc, largely shown the public how dishonest and beholden to the corporatocracy
and unfettered greed they are.
Albanese must feel free. The LNP are weak and he has the backing of the public at large to enact reform. Go you good thing. Just a few Sunday thoughts as I surfed and skated the day away.
Interested to hear what you think.
soggydog wrote:Supafreak wrote:soggydog wrote:Supafreak wrote:OPINION
Australia was always bullied by vested interests, until now https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-was-always-bullied-by-...Thanks for keeping your finger on the pulse supa. You seem to be collating the most relevant news daily. I’m giving you a hearty Hoot from the shoulder.
It was a interesting opinion piece and its a shame that Rudd was beaten by $$$$ campaign when he wanted to change the way these profits were taxed . Missed opportunity for Australian’s future and it’s still not too late for reform but will it happen ? Bloody hope so but maybe wishful thinking.
I was thinking about this today, I think Rudd and Gillard had to tread lightly as at the time the LNP embraced the rhetoric from the lobby groups and amplified it. They where still seen by many as a viable government so dangerous in opposition.
Thus my thinking is maybe Scotty was one of the best things that could have happened to Australian politics. He has, and the shit fuckery is still being completely revealed, with the help of his team, Taylor, Porter, and Barnacle as well as quite a few others, Cash, Payne etc, largely shown the public how dishonest and beholden to the corporatocracy
and unfettered greed they are.
Albanese must feel free. The LNP are weak and he has the backing of the public at large to enact reform. Go you good thing. Just a few Sunday thoughts as I surfed and skated the day away.
Interested to hear what you think.
That’s a good way of looking at Morriscum being one of the best things to happen to Australian politics. The shake up that’s so long overdue has come due to the LNP decade of shitfuckery. The Labor party hopefully have learnt from the mistakes made with the disunity in the party and can really make significant changes around tax reform . There seems to be so many ways the multinationals get around paying their fair share and a super profits tax I believe would have the support of the public. Labor can hold onto power and make changes that benefit the future of all Australians but I think they will hold their cards close to their chest and not give the LNP and murdoch to much info until just before the next election. Dutton and his mob are cooked and have no real direction , they oppose for the sake of opposing . I can see them in opposition for at least a decade. Labor has definitely got their work cut out with the cost of living etc and how did we get here ? It’s going to take time and change . I believe Labor have done well in their first 6 months and can do better in the coming years .
The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.