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Arrogance squared
Oh Em Gee those wacky Greens making some sense about funding sources that will benefit the Australian people on Q&A just now
In this current uncertain climate, what’s your opinion on where super investment options should be , eg high growth, conservative, cash etc etc ?
stunet wrote:Supafreak wrote:Friendly Jordies giving it to the press.
Though it comes at some cost, that street-side presser would've been satisfying.
Reckon this story has the potential to evolve into something extraordinary. For all his personality failings - fuck he can be annoying on camera sometimes* - his work has been among the most important political journalism of the last few years. That it's largely been ignored by the MSM, even when he's handed them leads on a platter, is another unsavoury aspect of the whole carry on.
It doesn't take much to read between the lines: Who's being protected here and why?
If there's CCTV or other clues leading towards someone FJ has investigated then this could blow up in any number of ways. For one, MSM will be pretty much forced to follow the story, perhaps even asking what the motivation was, potentially bringing old news, ignored by the MSM, back into the spotlight, and two, it'll increase FJ's infamy and profile. Daring to go where other journalists wouldn't, he was martyred for the cause. After that, the only way is up.
*His view counts show he has a large and loyal following who don't mind his smarmy schtick. Maybe it's just me.
Late to party on this as have been away. Wow, very heavy. If it was a msm journalist that got fire bombed it would still be on front page. Yep he is smarmy, but he hits more than misses with his political based videos, but you can have his reviews of house wife's etc though, I'm too old for that shit.
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andy-mac wrote:stunet wrote:Supafreak wrote:Friendly Jordies giving it to the press.
Though it comes at some cost, that street-side presser would've been satisfying.
Reckon this story has the potential to evolve into something extraordinary. For all his personality failings - fuck he can be annoying on camera sometimes* - his work has been among the most important political journalism of the last few years. That it's largely been ignored by the MSM, even when he's handed them leads on a platter, is another unsavoury aspect of the whole carry on.
It doesn't take much to read between the lines: Who's being protected here and why?
If there's CCTV or other clues leading towards someone FJ has investigated then this could blow up in any number of ways. For one, MSM will be pretty much forced to follow the story, perhaps even asking what the motivation was, potentially bringing old news, ignored by the MSM, back into the spotlight, and two, it'll increase FJ's infamy and profile. Daring to go where other journalists wouldn't, he was martyred for the cause. After that, the only way is up.
*His view counts show he has a large and loyal following who don't mind his smarmy schtick. Maybe it's just me.
Late to party on this as have been away. Wow, very heavy. If it was a msm journalist that got fire bombed it would still be on front page. Yep he is smarmy, but he hits more than misses with his political based videos, but you can have his reviews of house wife's etc though, I'm too old for that shit.
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What would have been the media response if it had been Peta Credlin or David Speers ?
Supafreak wrote:What would have been the media response if it had been Peta Credlin or David Speers ?
A much better comparison would be What would have been the media response if it had been Avi Yemini?
That would be comparing apples with apples, both You tubers with similar follower numbers(Avi about 100k more) and profile, both agitators DIY type journalist.
Peta Credlin or David Speers aren't comparable at all to Jordie's in profile that would be like comparing apples with oranges.
That depends if you consider Avi to actually being a real journalist.
Supafreak wrote:That depends if you consider Avi to actually being a real journalist.
Same could be said for Jordie's.
There is a decent argument Avi is more a journalist than Jordie's.
1. He is employed by a news media company, Rebel News
2. He holds a media pass and can legally operate as a journalist and attended press conferences etc
3. He actually gets out on the street and reports news
Jordie is more just an opinion piece youtuber/ comedian who does YouTube videos from his bedroom.
Do you really believe other journalists would rate avi as a real journalist over FJ , seriously ?
indo-dreaming wrote:Jordie is more just an opinion piece youtuber/ comedian who does YouTube videos from his bedroom.
You really haven't seen much of FJ's work, have you?
Here's a good starting point.
Has Avi done anything like this?
Here's another good'un, which was one of the big thorns in John Barilaro's side.
Clearly Indo.
That’s why he gets stitched up by high level politicians and his house gets firebombed.
Because he’s a non-entity.
thermalben wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Jordie is more just an opinion piece youtuber/ comedian who does YouTube videos from his bedroom.
You really haven't seen much of FJ's work, have you?
Here's a good starting point.
Has Avi done anything like this?
Here's another good'un, which was one of the big thorns in John Barilaro's side.
And..... Really shows up Australia's 'real' journos...
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&t=411s Does anyone consider rebel news to be a credible , trustworthy , accurate source of news ? Aren’t they just extreme RWNJ s ? https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-rebel/. Detailed Report
Questionable Reasoning: Conspiracy Theories, Pseudoscience, Propaganda, Poor Sourcing, Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: Canada
Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
sheesh you guys are pretty hard on @info, after the weekend’s election results in Vicco defending RWNJs like Avi and rebel news is all he has to cling to atm. The poor guy is possibly still in the fetal position thinking about 4 more years under the tyrannical despot Dan Andrews.
@Supafreak
It's irrelevant what other journalist think of Avi it's also irrelevant what anyone thinks of the media organisation Avi works for, Avi legally works as a journalist for a news media company and has a media pass to report alongside other journalist at events and press conferences.
I dont believe this is the case for Jordie's?
If Avi and Jordie's turned up at an event or press conference Avi would get through and be able to report with the other journalist while Jordie's assuming he doesn't have a media press pass would be stuck on the other side of the fence with the public and other wanna be You tubers.
It's irrelevant if you think Jordie's is great and Avi sucks, your opinion doesn't change the reality of the situation.
"... turned up at an event or press conference Avi would get through ..."
What’s the reality of the situation indo ? is it because avi is employed by a low credibility “ news source “ he therefore has more credibility than FJ ? Thats very insightful of you indo , is it also fact or opinion ?
Sometimes this idiot can’t get into a country let alone a press conference. https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/09/06/avi-yemini-new-zealand-donation-page/. https://cookerpedia.org/wiki/Avi_Yemini Avi's brand of "journalism" generally involves attempting to incite a reaction from people by way of "Guilt Activism", and entering areas he's not allowed into, while impotently shouting about his press pass. This tends to result in him getting spear tackled to the ground by police, and being routinely ignored by everyone in possession of more than 2 brain cells.
Supafreak wrote:What’s the reality of the situation indo ? is it because avi is employed by a low credibility “ news source “ he therefore has more credibility than FJ ? Thats very insightful of you indo , is it also fact or opinion ?
Okay you want to play our new game of fact or opinion.
Fact: Avi works for a news media company.
Fact: Avi has a news media pass that allows him access to areas only journalist can access
Fact: Avi is also a You tuber
Fact: Jordie's is a You Tuber and a comedian.
Opinion: Jordies is not funny.
Opinion: Jordie's is also a journalist.
Opinion: One is better than the other, one is more credible than the other.
Opinion: Jordie's is possibly on Labor's pay roll.
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Avi the chopping board thrower!!!
Extreme right wing clown .....
Supafreak wrote:Sometimes this idiot can’t get into a country let alone a press conference. https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/09/06/avi-yemini-new-zealand-donation-page/. https://cookerpedia.org/wiki/Avi_Yemini Avi's brand of "journalism" generally involves attempting to incite a reaction from people by way of "Guilt Activism", and entering areas he's not allowed into, while impotently shouting about his press pass. This tends to result in him getting spear tackled to the ground by police, and being routinely ignored by everyone in possession of more than 2 brain cells.
Yeah Supa, how dare a journalist ask different questions to the other sheep. I don't particularly like Avi, however if he's asking questions the others wont then im happy to listen. I dont like the constant money grab though.
Supafreak wrote:What’s the reality of the situation indo ? is it because avi is employed by a low credibility “ news source “ he therefore has more credibility than FJ ? Thats very insightful of you indo , is it also fact or opinion ?
Do any news sources have high credibility?
andy-mac wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cim_2cFmv4
Avi the chopping board thrower!!!
Extreme right wing clown .....
Yay great a You tube video from one You tuber dissing another, Jordie's actually has three videos dissing Avi, what a complete tosser.
And you know how many Avi has dissing Jordie's?
None....to me that says it all, he could easily create a video dissing Jordie's but really why bother.
I respect Avi for not doing the obvious and playing some lame tit for tat.
Fact ! A piece of skin between the muckhole and the fvckhole and if you break it you’re in the shit ! & that’s a fact .
indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:What’s the reality of the situation indo ? is it because avi is employed by a low credibility “ news source “ he therefore has more credibility than FJ ? Thats very insightful of you indo , is it also fact or opinion ?
Okay you want to play our new game of fact or opinion.
Fact: Avi works for a news media company.
Fact: Avi has a news media pass that allows him access to areas only journalist can access
Fact: Avi is also a You tuber
Fact: Jordie's is a You Tuber and a comedian.
Opinion: Jordies is not funny.
Opinion: Jordie's is also a journalist.
Opinion: One is better than the other, one is more credible than the other.
Opinion: Jordie's is possibly on Labor's pay roll.
indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cim_2cFmv4
Avi the chopping board thrower!!!
Extreme right wing clown .....Yay great a You tube video from one You tuber dissing another, Jordie's actually has three videos dissing Avi, what a complete tosser.
And you know how many Avi has dissing Jordie's?
None....to me that says it all, he could easily create a video dissing Jordie's but really why bother.
I respect Avi for not doing the obvious and playing some lame tit for tat.
Jordie is calling out Avi's bullshit.... Fact.
No Avi (or others) videos calling out specific bullshit from Jordie as Jordie sticks with facts..... Fact.
Point out video if you disagree where this is not case?
Certain powerful people tried to take him to court and lost... Fact.
Jordie is funny or not ... Opinion.
Ha ha oh please Jordie does not stick to facts the guy is nothing more than a Labor shill and an opinion piece writer and an A grade tosser.
Is that opinion or fact ?
indo-dreaming wrote:Ha ha oh please Jordie does not stick to facts the guy is nothing more than a Labor shill and an opinion piece writer and an A grade tosser.
Ok then point out one specific issue he has raised in one of his political videos where he has not been truthful. Attacking the messenger ey?..... He may be tosser, opinion. What he has pointed out is factual.
If this was not the case he would be broke through our soft defamation laws after Clive Palmer, Bruz, Scomo, Peta Credlin, Peter Dutton and others have taken him to court over lies in his videos. Yep they haven't in case you are not aware....
But yeah woke Labor shill.... Pfft.
indo-dreaming wrote:Jordie does not stick to facts
Jordie gets his work 'fact-checked' by Xenophon Davis.
indo-dreaming wrote:Ha ha oh please Jordie does not stick to facts the guy is nothing more than a Labor shill and an opinion piece writer and an A grade tosser.
Someone you’d like to see stabbed in the toilet of a pub right Indo?
Where’s VicLocal when you need him?
stunet wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Jordie does not stick to facts
Jordie gets his work 'fact-checked' by Xenophon Davis.
That might be true in regard to some aspects of videos when dealing with powerful people to cover his arse from a legal perspective, but you only have to click on the Avi video above for 5 to 10 seconds to see its just an opinion piece type video's (and damn hard to watch with all his lame try hard banter trying to be funny)
GuySmiley wrote:Where’s VicLocal when you need him?
Nobody needs this.
GuySmiley wrote:Where’s VicLocal when you need him?
It’s just not the same anymore without Viclocal and Blowin; I really miss them. The “discourse” between Roadkill and Burleigh isn’t anywhere near as engaging.
overthefalls wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Where’s VicLocal when you need him?
It’s just not the same anymore without Viclocal and Blowin; I really miss them. The “discourse” between Roadkill and Burleigh isn’t anywhere near as engaging.
i agree with this.
No doubt about the old ( 55 ) beetroot, he can sleep anywhere, doesn’t matter if lying down or standing up . 
overthefalls wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Where’s VicLocal when you need him?
It’s just not the same anymore without Viclocal and Blowin; I really miss them. The “discourse” between Roadkill and Burleigh isn’t anywhere near as engaging.
Uplift, SpongeBob, BigWayne, Sheepdog, Blindboy ….
Supafreak wrote:No doubt about the old ( 55 ) beetroot, he can sleep anywhere, doesn’t matter if lying down or standing up .
Looks like he’s been in a good paddock, such a fit , healthy looking specimen. Probably just had his regular long lunch on all of us, again. Looks like 65 not 55. AW.
AlfredWallace wrote:Supafreak wrote:No doubt about the old ( 55 ) beetroot, he can sleep anywhere, doesn’t matter if lying down or standing up .
Looks like he’s been in a good paddock, such a fit , healthy looking specimen. Probably just had his regular long lunch on all of us, again. Looks like 65 not 55. AW.
Liver would be working 24/7 processing all that free grog , he’s not worried about ICAC , probably realises he’s not going to be around .
Supafreak wrote:No doubt about the old ( 55 ) beetroot, he can sleep anywhere, doesn’t matter if lying down or standing up .
I don't think he is a really happy person.
Poor fella.....
Here’s a new one.
Covid saved Scomo.
https://apple.news/AihNdo4UGSDWA1raxD3Uc-g
One CUintheNT’s opinion of another CUintheNT
Supafreak wrote:No doubt about the old ( 55 ) beetroot, he can sleep anywhere, doesn’t matter if lying down or standing up .
He’s only 55? Fuck he’s sporting more than a few lifestyle injuries for his age if he is.
This is interesting as in 2013 scomo was the new immigration and border protection minister , what will be revealed in court ? maybe nothing but it just isn’t getting any better for the former minister for everything . Meanwhile, why is it taking so long for the findings in Glady’s case to be released ? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-29/daryl-maguire-charged-over-allege...
https://www.hudson.org/china-center/board-advisors ……. Nothing honourable about this parasite on the Australian taxpayer, what does he actually do besides warm the backbench seat ?#Breaking: just hours after the Liberal party officially confirmed it wouldn't censure him over his secret ministries, Scott Morrison has revealed his appointment to the Board of the Hudson Institute's China Center. The Board's Chair is fmr Trump Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
— Piers Mitchem (@piersmitchem) November 29, 2022
Supafreak wrote:https://twitter.com/piersmitchem/status/1597477270322835457?s=46&t=5yNgA... https://www.hudson.org/china-center/board-advisors ……. Nothing honourable about this parasite on the Australian taxpayer, what does he actually do besides warm the backbench seat ?
Fooked up! ICAC you would think will have to nail him with something with his track record or Robodebt....
Absolute classic, thanks for pointing that out Supa.
Of course Morrison and the Hudson Institute's China Centre is a match made in heaven. Dutton should also head over asap before he misses out on all the China-bashing fun.
Even just a superficial scan of the Hudson Institute's homepage reveals their stance towards China. My favourite article is How to Engage and Prevail in Political Warfare against China.
Do I recall correctly people previously arguing in these forums that the US is somehow not currently engaged in political-economic-information-etc warfare against China? (Anyone following what's happening with the chips act?)
Anyway, everything makes sense now after finishing reading The Shock Doctrine this week. When I think about all the anti-China ideas and beliefs being kept alive in the collective Western consciousness, I can't seem to prevent this paragraph from the book being repeated in my head over and over again:
It was in 1982 that Milton Friedman wrote the highly influential passage that best summarizes the shock doctrine: "Only a crisis - actual or perceived - produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. That, I believe, is our basic function: to develop alternatives to existing policies, to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes politically inevitable." It was to become a kind of mantra for his movement in the new democratic era. Allan Meltzer elaborated on the philosophy: "Ideas are alternatives waiting on a crisis to serve as the catalyst of change. Friedman's model of influence was to legitimize ideas, to make them bearable, and worth trying when the opportunity comes.
Something like a Taiwan crisis - say China invading Taiwan - would come in handy right about now. (Actually, best to wait until the US has siphoned all of TSMC's semiconductor technology onto US soil before using the funky little island as a pawn in a major military war..?)
Putin got easily duped by the West into invading Ukraine, simply by speculation of Ukraine joining nato.
But I'm not so sure that Xi is as emotional and reckless at Putin. The US is definitely testing the waters on this one though.
True.
Great stuff gsco
We are still the good guys tho ;)
‘only when a mosquito lands on your testicles will you realise that violence is not always the answer’ - lao tzu
gsco wrote:Anyway, everything makes sense now after finishing reading The Shock Doctrine this week.
History wasn't one of my strengths at school so didn't take much notice what went on in South America back in the 70's and 80's, but after reading The Shock Doctrine you get a glimpse of how truly terrifying US policy and corporations can be in their quest to fill their coffers. And they are still at it today. Terrorising populations isn't all about flying planes into building as Uncle Sam knows all too well.
And thanks for originally recommending it.
The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.